(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[maher140]PB[gotutor]BR[9d]DT[2010-07-12]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1797.582]C[maher140 [-\]: enjoy the game ^^
gotutor [9d\]: hi
]
;W[dp]WL[1795.68]
;B[qp]BL[1794.038]
;W[dd]WL[1793.746]
;B[fq]BL[1786.869]
;W[hq]WL[1786.357]C[maher140 [-\]: whatd nonochan say?
]
;B[cq]BL[1777.416]
;W[dq]WL[1783.637]
;B[cp]BL[1776.01]
;W[do]WL[1782.158]
;B[dr]BL[1764.681]
;W[er]WL[1779.991]
;B[cr]BL[1762.294]
;W[eq]WL[1778.67]
;B[cn]BL[1750.484]
(;W[fp]WL[1771.922]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: :(
Tetriste [-\]: corner enclosure means r10
]
;B[oq]BL[1741.152]C[nonochan [6d\]: f4 g4 g4 g4 
]
;W[nc]WL[1757.22]
;B[pf]BL[1736.811]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: slow move too early
maher140 [-\]: yeah, i normally do k16 but i wanted to try out k17 once
emerus [5k\]: w needs to keep territory balance
Tetriste [-\]: you might want a set up more like mini-chinese if you want to play further?
gotutor [9d\]: ok, i cant say it is bad
]
(;W[jc]WL[1736.739]
;B[qj]BL[1718.076]
(;W[cj]WL[1691.994]
;B[cc]BL[1715.056]C[brainlord: there for a big place
Lenneth [3d?\]: how
]
;W[cd]WL[1643.025]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: c10 another.....
maher140 [-\]: this is teaching game, we can see commments
Lenneth [3d?\]: wasted c8 where
Lenneth [3d?\]: we know
]
;B[dc]BL[1690.026]
;W[ec]WL[1632.633]
;B[eb]BL[1687.745]
;W[fc]WL[1628.646]
;B[fb]BL[1685.794]
;W[gc]WL[1623.756]
;B[bd]BL[1679.587]
;W[be]WL[1621.102]
;B[bc]BL[1678.32]
;W[cf]WL[1619.828]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: i wonder if i have chance to play 9d, i would not mind the surronding
faintvoice [2k\]: damn now i learned somethin
]
;B[jp]BL[1662.844]C[cnrc [-\]: lenneth you should wait till the end of the game to comments like that
cnrc [-\]: this game is being hosted in the free go school room ^^
Lenneth [3d?\]: hi kittie 
cnrc [-\]: shes also going to givea lecture next sunday 
cnrc [-\]: hihi lenneth
Lenneth [3d?\]: oh rly you?
cnrc [-\]: hm?
]
;W[lp]WL[1533.697]C[faintvoice [2k\]: damn B has strong hands...
Tetriste [-\]: isn't b the stronger player?
maher140 [-\]: mhmm
]
;B[hp]BL[1625.887]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: even can still kikashi some moves from the over -concentrate w stones
Lenneth [3d?\]: see
]
;W[iq]WL[1508.333]
;B[jq]BL[1616.679]C[brainlord: strong maher140 is?
tengenner [4k\]: mysterious...
]
;W[ip]WL[1448.376]C[maher140 [-\]: maher140 is weak
maher140 [-\]: :(
Tetriste [-\]: gotutor is a strong 5d :O
]
;B[jo]BL[1588.356]
(;W[ln]WL[1434.038]
;B[mo]BL[1568.4]C[cnrc [-\]: g2g enjoy everyone 
faintvoice [2k\]: later
]
;W[lo]WL[1400.247]
;B[lr]BL[1565.204]C[wronkth [4k\]: n6 ?
brainlord: there is a move my hand jumps there
]
;W[mr]WL[1339.882]
;B[mq]BL[1543.353]
;W[lq]WL[1320.77]
;B[kr]BL[1538.472]
;W[mn]WL[1308.325]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: In China 5d is very strong :p
Lenneth [3d?\]: p5?
Lenneth [3d?\]: no
]
;B[nq]BL[1495.221]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: 1 lib :(
wronkth [4k\]: you cant get higher than 6d without major tournement wins if i'm remembering right 
Tetriste [-\]: yeah, on the other hand, it's not like kgs ranking was normal... I know a chinese 7d who was also 7d on kgs, he made it to 8d though...
Lenneth [3d?\]: or he getting old
Lenneth [3d?\]: i know old 6d is 5d here
Lenneth [3d?\]: a*
Tetriste [-\]: old?
Lenneth [3d?\]: aged man
Tetriste [-\]: a 6d could be 16 years old...
Tetriste [-\]: or even younger
Lenneth [3d?\]: usually real dan is harder
Lenneth [3d?\]: harder in ikgs
]
;W[mk]WL[1220.107]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: not a moyo yet :(
wronkth [4k\]: attacking that stick looks too good...
Lenneth [3d?\]: no need
rmod [-\]: how strong is white?
maher140 [-\]: very weak :(
]
;B[pb]BL[1425.334]C[rmod [-\]: how come you are white then?
billbell [1d\]: watch and see
Lenneth [3d?\]: maybe impolite to talk this as he seems mind it :)
maher140 [-\]: gotutor told me too
wronkth [4k\]: single digit kyu power!
brainlord: I want that corner for white >_<
]
;W[jl]WL[1169.889]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: should invade right side now for chaos
Tetriste [-\]: b got 4 corners :O
]
;B[di]BL[1408.856]C[wronkth [4k\]: a couple big nice ones at that...
EyeOfDeath [2k\]: the fun is coming :)
Lenneth [3d?\]: still chance as w strong outside
]
;W[cl]WL[1140.162]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: must kill something big :)
]
;B[ci]BL[1394.318]C[maher140 [-\]: fat chance :(
faintvoice [2k\]: vital moves come after urgent moves silly 
]
;W[bo]WL[1111.398]C[odnihs [-\]: is this a promotional game of some sort?
]
;B[co]BL[1386.211]C[maher140 [-\]: nah, just a teaching game
]
;W[bn]WL[1104.241]C[Lenneth [3d?\]: looks not bad for w as playing a 9d :)
TPA [-\]: focus!
Tetriste [-\]: b wants to show how to live in wide space
TPA [-\]: =)
]
;B[dn]BL[1373.352]C[WhoKnows [12k\]: lol
]
;W[dj]WL[1078.645]
;B[fi]BL[1363.233]C[maher140 [-\]: you know, its very scary playing a 9d 
Tetriste [-\]: nah
faintvoice [2k\]: eh 
brainlord: w is wide baduk
faintvoice [2k\]: dun think about it
rmod [-\]: it is just a number
faintvoice [2k\]: play like u wuld a regualr 4k
messi10 [3d\]: ..
RayFrost [4k\]: foolish attempt to kill...
]
(;W[em]WL[1021.029]C[TPA [-\]: e17 group is .. i dunno, crying?
]
;B[bp]BL[1347.691]
;W[bm]WL[1014.814]
;B[ar]BL[1343.925]
;W[hi]WL[976.323]C[assailent [3k\]: anyone know how strong white is?
]
;B[gp]BL[1331.039]C[emerus [5k\]: Pro level imo
emerus [5k\]: Chinese 6d in her info
brainlord: could it show a beautiful
Tetriste [-\]: that's black..
]
;W[fo]WL[946.261]C[emerus [5k\]: oh that's interesting
Trindade [1k\]: lol
]
;B[ef]BL[1292.867]C[Tetriste [-\]: w is around 5k~, it's a teaching game, from b to w
]
(;W[ee]WL[934.688]
;B[gf]BL[1286.743]
;W[fg]WL[921.173]
;B[gh]BL[1281.19]C[maher140 [-\]: lets try and kill even though i know its gonna fail....
]
;W[ff]WL[906.28]C[fire10: isnt a teaching game
]
;B[hh]BL[1277.036]
(;W[hf]WL[888.254]
;B[jh]BL[1274.017]C[wronkth [4k\]: dunnoif i'm learning anything but there
Tetriste [-\]: it is exactly a teaching game, else they wouldn't see our comments
wronkth [4k\]: s a t next to the game
]
(;W[jf]WL[852.7]
;B[jj]BL[1256.999]C[brainlord: top could be enough?
nonochan [6d\]: most moves by W are a little or more off
Tetriste [-\]: I think w can kill personally, but hard
nonochan [6d\]: e.g. f4 should be at l3 
brainlord:  Takemiya will eat that
emerus [5k\]: shoudlnt f4 be at p4?
nonochan [6d\]: normally o17 would be at r10 
nonochan [6d\]: but c10 was really the wrong direction.
brainlord: many the pro like the r14 in recent
nonochan [6d\]: c14 would be best, but c8 was possible too
]
;W[ph]WL[675.712]
;B[qh]BL[1239.056]C[brainlord: up too much 
wronkth [4k\]: oo  this gonna get way worse here...
nonochan [6d\]: q12 is wrong
nonochan [6d\]: should be either q13 or r12 
julianw [1k\]: oh nonochan, let w play...
]
;W[gj]WL[618.406]C[Tetriste [-\]: yeah, but w doesn't mean to reduce here, does he?
wronkth [4k\]: j11 
karasu [3d\]: since w play q12, he has to kill left..
nonochan [6d\]: whatever.
]
;B[if]BL[1192.267]
;W[jg]WL[608.267]
;B[ih]BL[1184.453]C[Tetriste [-\]: I think he had to kill left for a while...
nonochan [6d\]: B is unkillable
Tetriste [-\]: else w has nothing
emerus [5k\]: no wonder most high dan t games are done in private i think
NinjaSpin [1k\]: nonochan, was w N2 correct?
Tetriste [-\]: ?
csgo [?\]: still w at least try m12
wronkth [4k\]: n2 couldnt work at all.  i can see that...
Tetriste [-\]: let w decide where to go
]
;W[mh]WL[477.049]C[nonochan [6d\]: N2 didn't work
threeoone [4k\]: prior to this connection f10 seems good
]
;B[he]BL[1173.688]
;W[je]WL[455.971]C[brainlord: w didn't want his top place
maher140 [-\]: w is greedy and is trying to kill :(
]
;B[fk]BL[1126.085]C[Tetriste [-\]: it's not greed at this point... it's trying to win
gotutor [9d\]: during the attacking ,b didn't gain much
gotutor [9d\]: i mean w sorry
]
(;W[fj]WL[429.677]
;B[ej]BL[1123.116]C[threeoone [4k\]: bwaaah
]
;W[ek]WL[427.025]
;B[ei]BL[1121.715]
;W[hk]WL[418.868]
;B[dk]BL[1119.401]
;W[el]WL[417.281]
;B[ck]BL[1117.014]
;W[bj]WL[415.822]
;B[bk]BL[1114.455]C[gotutor [9d\]: ？
karasu [3d\]: ...
maher140 [-\]: forgot to read :(
Tetriste [-\]: bleh
wronkth [4k\]: it's only greed if there's  a more reasonable way to win..
]
;W[bh]WL[382.166]
;B[bi]BL[1111.674]
;W[hg]WL[380.415]
;B[cm]BL[1105.763]C[MBison [5d\]: w going to get wrecked
MBison [5d\]: or is 
csgo [?\]: over
MBison [5d\]: 2 eyes already
Tetriste [-\]: nah it's the end
MBison [5d\]: yea
maher140 [-\]: alright
threeoone [4k\]: done
maher140 [-\]: . end
AroundOneD [2d\]: h9 should be e8
maher140 [-\]: well, its a teaching game 
fire10: game over
EyeOfDeath [2k\]: he survived more than 100 moves its ok ^^
gotutor [9d\]: hehe,b is a littledangerous
fowat [5k\]: well yes it is a teaching game so mistakes are inevitable
gotutor [9d\]: you play well
war11: ??
stupiddddd: thx
maher140 [-\]: thank you for the game
gotutor [9d\]: u r w
fire10: lol
wronkth [4k\]: why you gots to be so dangerous....  that's kinda ruthless
maher140 [-\]: oh yeah xD
war11: ?
abx [8k\]: loooooooollllllll hurra stupiddd xD
wronkth [4k\]: you need some ruth...
kdkt [1k\]: 9d plays black?
maher140 [-\]: yeah
fire10: stupidd is trolololo soon
kdkt [1k\]: I thought the other way around
maher140 [-\]: you have control go
kdkt [1k\]: no wonder
gotutor [9d\]: F10 can play H8
Tetriste [-\]: I think b went easy, letting d11 dangerously floating
maher140 [-\]: you have control gotutor
])
(;W[hl]C[maher140 [-\]: yeah, that works
emerus [5k\]: White won very early
maher140 [-\]: white lost
emerus [5k\]: When B gets all 4 corners in a teaching game, resign ^^
maher140 [-\]: :(
gotutor [9d\]: i saw nonochan 's comments
gotutor [9d\]: what he said is right
Tetriste [-\]: yea
maher140 [-\]: yeah, i didnt see this move
gotutor [9d\]: attacking is for the territory
gotutor [9d\]: b is a little dangerous
gotutor [9d\]: that 's it
maher140 [-\]: yeah, when i was doing this, i was like, im not gaining anything
gotutor [9d\]: hehe
maher140 [-\]: but only way to win is to try and kill
maher140 [-\]: so i had to continue
gotutor [9d\]: yes
gotutor [9d\]: i have to go,thank you for the game
maher140 [-\]: thank you for the game ^^ 
gotutor [9d\]: u r w
maher140 [-\]: so, what should i do to improve?
maher140 [-\]: tsumego ofc but anything else?
gotutor [9d\]: hehe,learn the fuseki
gotutor [9d\]: you can see more fusekis pro plays
maher140 [-\]: yeah, my fuseki is lacking, ive noticed that myself
maher140 [-\]: alright, thank you ^^
maher140 [-\]: i have to go to bed now, gnight
gotutor [9d\]: nighty nght
gotutor [9d\]: night
pinkey [12k\]: good night
]))
(;W[oh]
;B[qh]
;W[oe]
(;B[pe]
;W[ii]
;B[ih]
;W[lh]C[gotutor [9d\]: the same
gotutor [9d\]: make use of all your sente
maher140 [-\]: yeah, i kind of saw this with q12, but i didnt think you would respond to p15 like that
])
(;B[ii]
;W[pe]
;B[qe]
;W[qf]
;B[qd]
;W[pg]C[gotutor [9d\]: first w make b on the second line
gotutor [9d\]: secong w canstill attack
]
;B[rf]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[hj]
;B[lh]
;W[ig]
;B[ih]
;W[ki]
;B[kh]
;W[mi]C[maher140 [-\]: oh
maher140 [-\]: yeah, i couldnt read that far into it
gotutor [9d\]: yes
])))
(;W[oh]
;B[qh]
;W[oe]
;B[pe]
;W[ii]C[gotutor [9d\]: attack like this
maher140 [-\]: i see
gotutor [9d\]: ok
]))
(;W[gf]
;B[fe]
;W[ee]
;B[ff]
;W[he]C[maher140 [-\]: b in trouble
maher140 [-\]: now*
gotutor [9d\]: yes
maher140 [-\]: and it looks like i have some moyo going along
maher140 [-\]: w has*
gotutor [9d\]: yes
gotutor [9d\]: hah,yes,the same
]))
(;W[hi]C[RayFrost [4k\]: :(
maher140 [-\]: what did i play?
RayFrost [4k\]: e7
maher140 [-\]: ah
gotutor [9d\]: not foolish,w can attack by making profits
RayFrost [4k\]: ^^" my issue was how close e7 was and for the fact it seems purely focused on the lower left
RayFrost [4k\]: without consideration of the top as well
RayFrost [4k\]: <--- probably wrong
csgo [?\]: h11 looks good
gotutor [9d\]: w can make b both not alive
gotutor [9d\]: and attack this two
maher140 [-\]: i feel like my sense of direction is all messed up in this game
gotutor [9d\]: hehe
Euphony [1k\]: are you suggesting a move like b4 now, gotutor?
]
;B[bp]
;W[fk]C[Euphony [1k\]: for white I mean
maher140 [-\]: its blacks turn
gotutor [9d\]: not good,b is so dangerous
])
(;W[bp]C[maher140 [-\]: oh, here
RayFrost [4k\]: I'd be worried about the status of my h3 group :x
gotutor [9d\]: yeah,it has the same idea as H11
gotutor [9d\]: good move
maher140 [-\]: nah, h3 can easily live
RayFrost [4k\]: <--- paranoid
]))
(;W[oo]C[maher140 [-\]: i thought about this
gotutor [9d\]: O3 or R5 later
maher140 [-\]: but i didnt know how itd play out
]
;B[pn]
;W[nq]
;B[nr]
;W[or]C[gotutor [9d\]: like this
maher140 [-\]: b looks cut
goroxy [5k\]: n2?
]
;B[mr]
;W[pq]
;B[op]
;W[pp]
;B[np]C[RayFrost [4k\]: hmmm... w doesn't look healthy here?
gotutor [9d\]: b's shape is broken
goroxy [5k\]: okay
assailent [3k\]: why not q2 for black to keep the corner?
]
;W[no]
;B[mp]C[typohh [6k\]: w gets corner like this?
]
;W[mo]
;B[mq]
;W[po]
;B[qo]
;W[pm]C[goroxy [5k\]: n2 not good
]))
(;W[cf]C[gotutor [9d\]: avoid sansan
maher140 [-\]: i see
gotutor [9d\]: w C10 give b good point to play sansan
]))
(;W[pb]
;B[qc]
;W[kc]C[gotutor [9d\]: K17 is strange
]))
(;W[oq]
;B[po]
;W[mp]C[emerus [5k\]: He said l3 here
maher140 [-\]: yeah, this looks much better
Tetriste [-\]: l3 is good
Tetriste [-\]: ?
emerus [5k\]: For white instead of p3
maher140 [-\]: i just dont like the aji of f3
gotutor [9d\]: F4 is a little slow
Tetriste [-\]: oh
gotutor [9d\]: no need to play F4 in joseki
maher140 [-\]: i see
RayFrost [4k\]: I'm not late for the review... yay :D
maher140 [-\]: so whats to stop b from jumping out with his f3 stone right now?
emerus [5k\]: We were planning on canceling it when you showed up Rayfrost
emerus [5k\]: sry
Tetriste [-\]: like f4?
RayFrost [4k\]: psh, emerus
RayFrost [4k\]: and jumping out now is poor choice
Tetriste [-\]: I think w plays f2 in answer to f4 and b must run
RayFrost [4k\]: larger points on the board
RayFrost [4k\]: ^^ aji best saved for later
maher140 [-\]: yeah, i was thinking that tetriste, but im not so great at fuseki ;p
gotutor [9d\]: no need to afraid F3's jump
]
;B[fr]C[RayFrost [4k\]: with so much of the board left open, b jumping out may be worse than later - w can benefit from attacking it much more now rather than later
Tetriste [-\]: f4 here?
RayFrost [4k\]: ^^"
RayFrost [4k\]: just my thoughts
Tetriste [-\]: g4 three times?
]
(;W[fp]C[emerus [5k\]: pro ws going over these variations yesterday
]
(;B[gp]C[RayFrost [4k\]: it's dan level tesuji
maher140 [-\]: ?
nonochan [6d\]: f4 g3 f1 
])
(;B[gq]C[gotutor [9d\]: w F1 instead of F4
]
;W[fs]))
(;W[fs]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: you can pass control over to her
nonochan [6d\]: sorry
Tetriste [-\]: ah
maher140 [-\]: so who wants control?
emerus [5k\]: Connection problems again?
gotutor [9d\]: yes
]
;B[gs]
;W[es]
;B[hr]
;W[fp]C[maher140 [-\]: b fails?
gotutor [9d\]: can't say b fail,but b didn't get much
maher140 [-\]: i see
gotutor [9d\]: w doesn't need to be afraid of F3
gotutor [9d\]: is it right ,nonochan?
Tetriste [-\]: you're the 9d here ;)
])))
