(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[4]KM[0.50]TM[1200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[sabu]PB[ha]DT[2010-05-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[dd][pd][dp][pp]C[ha [-\]: have a good game !
sabu [-\]: have a godo game
sabu [-\]: *good
sabu [-\]: This is a demonstration for Baduk World.  Sabu is Mr. Kim Dongyeop 9p of the Hanguk Kiwon
sabu [-\]: The Baduk World website is located at www.bwk.or.kr
sabu [-\]: Mr. Kim will review the game afterwards
sabu [-\]: enjoy
]RE[B+5.50]
;W[qf]WL[1070.814]
;B[nd]BL[1194.726]
;W[nq]WL[1067.548]
;B[pn]BL[1179.502]
;W[ql]WL[1064.018]C[bonzai [1k\]: yay
]
;B[jp]BL[1146.889]
;W[pq]WL[1059.755]C[DapperDan [5k\]: which is 9p
Academic [7k\]: q
jitte [2d?\]: sabu
Academic [7k\]: w
Syptryn [3d\]: obviously white :P
Academic [7k\]: w
NorthWind [6k\]: wow
bonzai [1k\]: lol
]
;B[qq]BL[1129.581]
;W[qr]WL[1054.902]C[Syptryn [3d\]: I don't think Ha can give 9p 4 stones :P
Academic [7k\]: how strong b?
Syptryn [3d\]: probably about 4d
]
;B[oq]BL[1102.78]
;W[pr]WL[1052.302]C[Academic [7k\]: ic
bonzai [1k\]: id say 6 or 7, 4 stones not alot
Villarce [1d\]: in his info its said he is insei
Rochan [5k\]: if the handi is correct he should be 6d or something ye
Villarce [1d\]: so i would say 7d at least
Syptryn [3d\]: he's part of the Korean insei League
saisueye [1d\]: holy
Syptryn [3d\]: as I am :), same group
saisueye [1d\]: i feel insignificant 
saisueye [1d\]: lol
angelcake [9k\]: is sabu the 9p?
Syptryn [3d\]: ya
bonzai [1k\]: insei are only 3d?
angelcake [9k\]: wonderful
eastwood1 [5d?\]: p4 
Syptryn [3d\]: theKorean Insei League not same as Korean inseis :P
Lovelybaby [7k\]: is white 9p?
bonzai [1k\]: ah
Syptryn [3d\]: its the KGS version held by breakfast :P
Princessb [2k\]: Hikaru was weaker than 3d when he started as an insei
NorthWind [6k\]: seems so yes
]
;B[op]BL[1019.668]
;W[or]WL[1048.436]C[Syptryn [3d\]: top group is about 3-7d
]
;B[rq]BL[1011.501]
;W[lq]WL[1045.062]C[Rochan [5k\]: thx for the insightful comment princess :P
Lovelybaby [7k\]: oh how about black then
Lovelybaby [7k\]: ?d
]
;B[mp]BL[997.22]
;W[mq]WL[1041.909]C[bonzai [1k\]: always figured ud have to be like 7d to be insei
Villarce [1d\]: so b could be 3d?
Syptryn [3d\]: black is about 4d
Syptryn [3d\]: I think
Princessb [2k\]: Rochan is really 8d
Rochan [5k\]: haha
Rochan [5k\]: 5k as of today
]
;B[pi]BL[961.19]
;W[ol]WL[1038.561]C[ss67wo [3k?\]: Princessb [2k\]: Hikaru was weaker than 3d when he started as an insei ROFLLLLMMAAO
Syptryn [3d\]: Japanese inseis are not that strong
]
;B[qe]BL[942.794]
;W[pf]WL[1035.196]C[Syptryn [3d\]: probably start off about KGS 1d
mafutrct [5d?\]: please go to anime and rank room :3
]
;B[nf]BL[928.239]C[sendol [-\]: Hi all, I am O Pilsang one of the teachers for Baduk World
]
;W[nn]WL[1025.345]C[DapperDan [5k\]: hi sendol
NorthWind [6k\]: hi
bonzai [1k\]: hi 
sendol [-\]: Mr. Kim doesn't speak English so I'll be translating
DapperDan [5k\]: weren't you charm
saisueye [1d\]: lamo Hikaru lol
saisueye [1d\]: well sabu is sai
Rochan [5k\]: Sendol do you know the rank of black?
mafutrct [5d?\]: thanks for translating, sendol
sendol [-\]: 5d
sendol [-\]: Black is 5d
]
;B[np]BL[869.549]
;W[ng]WL[1021.805]C[RyuuGan [1k\]: thanks
sendol [-\]: our website is www.bwk.or.kr
sendol [-\]: take a look when you get a chance
Syptryn [3d\]: really? haha, then I'm about 5d, w00t :P
Rochan [5k\]: princess btw.. has me being an 8d become some sort of kgs meme?
DapperDan [5k\]: sendol beat tartrate Oooo
Rochan [5k\]: I hear that like 10 times a day :P
]
;B[og]BL[820.826]
;W[of]WL[1018.512]C[Fernando [1d\]: well, dont be surprised. You are now the most famous sandbagger on KGS. It's shameful
]
;B[nh]BL[815.03]
;W[mg]WL[1016.429]C[NorthWind [6k\]: come on B, save that q11 stone
]
;B[mf]BL[813.584]C[Rochan [5k\]: haha thx
]
;W[oh]WL[991.932]
;B[pg]BL[809.707]
;W[oc]WL[990.721]C[Fernando [1d\]: w is full of tricks
mafutrct [5d?\]: this looks good for w, b is too small
]
;B[od]BL[784.047]
;W[qc]WL[986.899]C[saisueye [1d\]: yeah i think black screwed up in the bottom
lydia10 [2k\]: i like p17
eastwood1 [5d?\]: of course look at his picture xD
nocturne19 [2k\]: i like black
]
;B[re]BL[748.269]C[DapperDan [5k\]: where can i get a hat like that
]
;W[ph]WL[984.862]
;B[qg]BL[745.089]
;W[qh]WL[983.803]
;B[rg]BL[741.265]C[nocturne19 [2k\]: cause w has no eye still
]
;W[rh]WL[982.713]
;B[rf]BL[721.851]
;W[lg]WL[981.45]C[takati [7k\]: he has now
NorthWind [6k\]: cunning W sac 3
Rochan [5k\]: o11 
makmak [1d\]: how old is kim?
Rochan [5k\]: if hes cool
mafutrct [5d?\]: has to kill corner?
Rochan [5k\]: o11 ..
mafutrct [5d?\]: then w m4
sendol [-\]: Mr. Kim is 54
angelcake [9k\]: 金泳三?
]
;B[nc]BL[600.094]C[angelcake [9k\]: korean 9p?
sendol [-\]: yes
]
;W[cn]WL[967.158]C[Rochan [5k\]: Kim hyung :)
angelcake [9k\]: master
lydia10 [2k\]: o17  slow
mafutrct [5d?\]: c9?
DapperDan [5k\]: pinsor!
DapperDan [5k\]: you know you want to
]
;B[fq]BL[537.556]
;W[cf]WL[964.003]
;B[fd]BL[526.391]C[mafutrct [5d?\]: o17 does appear the only move, black spent too many moves
]
;W[dj]WL[957.292]C[Fernando [1d\]: o17 was a good move
oogoog [5k\]: b still looks pretty good right now
archane [18k\]: HA has what dan?
qqdjki: so far yes
Rochan [5k\]: 5 dan
mafutrct [5d?\]: f3 is hard to understand for me, i like the left side more
Villarce [1d\]: simple game
Rochan [5k\]: according to sedol
]
;B[id]BL[462.623]C[NorthWind [6k\]: can W still live in top right corner ?
Rochan [5k\]: sendol
nonochan [6d\]: o11 p11 ? - if so, is that kikashi?
angelcake [9k\]: why 9p just gives 5dan 4 handies
bonzai [1k\]: no northwind
nonochan [6d\]: because that way he can win
Fernando [1d\]: this is meant to be a teaching game, angel
]
;W[lf]WL[896.998]C[DapperDan [5k\]: lol
DapperDan [5k\]: nono
Fernando [1d\]: yes, nono
Mukti [4d\]: That is the standard handicap angelcake
Mukti [4d\]: 9p gives 1 pro about 2-3 stones
eastwood1 [5d?\]: m16 
angelcake [9k\]: than k you
Fernando [1d\]: m4 is important
nonochan [6d\]: 2 stones at most
]
;B[ld]BL[416.847]
;W[cc]WL[889.972]
;B[cd]BL[413.088]
;W[bd]WL[887.977]
;B[dc]BL[411.433]
;W[bb]WL[886.896]
;B[cb]BL[409.76]
;W[bc]WL[885.825]
;B[cl]BL[408.865]
;W[el]WL[880.575]C[DapperDan [5k\]: black doing pretty good
nonochan [6d\]: e8 should be interesting
]
;B[co]BL[374.627]C[dangerduck [6k\]: why not just D7?
dangerduck [6k\]: (before)
Rochan [5k\]: is o4 group really ok like this?
]
;W[cm]WL[872.683]C[thatsgreat [11k\]: m4!m4!
Academic [7k\]: look at that centre
Fernando [1d\]: 8d should know
sendol [-\]: Ha is one of my students
Rochan [5k\]: Im not saying he doesnt know
Rochan [5k\]: Im saying I dont
dangerduck [6k\]: E6, lol
Rochan [5k\]: hence asking
thatsgreat [11k\]: rochan!
lydia10 [2k\]: who is the teaher here
chrayma [7k\]: Hi all, who's ha ?
makmak [1d\]: wtf? 9p doesn't give 1p stones
Fernando [1d\]: rochan is 8d and yet he asks...
thatsgreat [11k\]: lol
makmak [1d\]: many 1 dan pros are stronger than 9ps
sendol [-\]: sabu is 
Rochan [5k\]: cant w play m6 in sente?
mafutrct [5d?\]: please not rank discussion again x_X
sendol [-\]: Kim Dongyeop 9p
Rochan [5k\]: and then build on center?
Rochan [5k\]: haha, its always my rank thats debated aswell
thatsgreat [11k\]: m6, then about k6
Rochan [5k\]: rather than the players
Rochan [5k\]: haha
thatsgreat [11k\]: then the whole center is white's
lydia10 [2k\]: i bet on w
nonochan [6d\]: c5 is not a move in my opinion
dannybrist: k8
NorthWind [6k\]: n6 maybe
Mukti [4d\]: That is quite true nowadays, makmak. I agree. I was talking about 'the old days'
limlim [4k\]: k6
sendol [-\]: Kim Dongyeop is the head teacher at Baduk World, a new schools for foreigners to study Baduk in Korea
thatsgreat [11k\]: just drop the c8 stone
sendol [-\]: our website is www.bwk.or.kr
thatsgreat [11k\]: and go k7
]
;B[di]BL[450.896]C[makmak [1d\]: b is brave
Rochan [5k\]: indeed
]
;W[ci]WL[857.098]C[Fernando [1d\]: b believes in himself...
nonochan [6d\]: B is brave?
nonochan [6d\]: How so?
Fernando [1d\]: cross cut!
dangerduck [6k\]: lol
dangerduck [6k\]: crusscut would be ultimate fail
Chester [-\]: c12?
dangerduck [6k\]: E10
dangerduck [6k\]: for the bomber
mafutrct [5d?\]: e10 seems to be very bad
GoTreasury [19k\]: are we suppose just watch or help out?
dannybrist: F14 maybe
]
;B[ch]BL[346.154]C[dangerduck [6k\]: lol
]
;W[cj]WL[853.947]C[celebrir [-\]: what about p9 ? iis there some ptential because r9 doesn't connect ?
DapperDan [5k\]: hmm
dangerduck [6k\]: ?
angelcake [9k\]: when w move to m4 or m5?
dangerduck [6k\]: black is dead behind that wall
DapperDan [5k\]: isn't d12 a given
Fernando [1d\]: no
Spiele1000 [2k\]: w sees no need to think in ths game. impressive
NorthWind [6k\]: whatever you like treasury; just have some fun
Solid30k [2k\]: e13 b
dannybrist: B12
]
;B[df]BL[290.77]
;W[ce]WL[847.114]C[Fernando [1d\]: why should w think?
Solid30k [2k\]: similar idea
samowar [1k\]: Spiele1000, he thinks during b's time
GoTreasury [19k\]: d15? connect!
Solid30k [2k\]: center moyo is getting bigger
Fernando [1d\]: pros can beat amateurs all day without thinking
nonochan [6d\]: d15 c13 d13 b12 
nonochan [6d\]: or d15 d13 
]
;B[dg]BL[225.324]C[DapperDan [5k\]: even better
nonochan [6d\]: d13 is not so good
]
;W[if]WL[833.796]C[Rochan [5k\]: m6 
Rochan [5k\]: gogo
GoTreasury [19k\]: should we watch out for d15 break out?
nonochan [6d\]: this makes d15 e15 d18 e18 c19 almost sente
dannybrist: a12 b12
makmak [1d\]: b plays too slow
]
;B[ie]BL[203.341]C[NorthWind [6k\]: that was good. B separated 2 groups on left
]
;W[kd]WL[818.523]C[ramborocky [-\]: who is playing , some pro?
makmak [1d\]: b can separate two live groups
Academic [7k\]: b12 connects?
makmak [1d\]: he needs one more move
]
;B[kc]BL[189.99]C[bonzai [1k\]: thats only good if there not alive
mafutrct [5d?\]: black did no seperate yet, and it would have no meaning
DapperDan [5k\]: need to be careful here
sendol [-\]: White is Kim Dongyeop 9p of the Hanguk Kiwon
sendol [-\]: this is a demonstration game for Baduk World
Solid30k [2k\]: m15 sente
sendol [-\]: our website is at www.bwk.or.kr
ramborocky [-\]: wow
]
;W[hf]WL[793.287]C[ramborocky [-\]: 9p^^
nonochan [6d\]: j15 is bad style
Solid30k [2k\]: aha w thinks about d15 cut
DapperDan [5k\]: O thought j15 looked good
ramborocky [-\]: how much does he charge for such a teaching?
DapperDan [5k\]: but im weak
saisueye [1d\]: way too much for you to pay lol
mafutrct [5d?\]: j15 is an emergency move usually
dannybrist: g14 k16
bonzai [1k\]: $150ish lol
mafutrct [5d?\]: but it does not appear to be efficient here
Realms [5k\]: sabu is a 9p that look in the he perfil
mafutrct [5d?\]: the shape just does not work
GoTreasury [19k\]: where is pro explanation?
vilge: doesnt black need to watch out for his n4 group now?
nonochan [6d\]: at this moment the cut at d15 e15 e14 doesn't work
mafutrct [5d?\]: after the game treasurey
sendol [-\]: Kim Dongyeop will review the game after its finished, and I will translate
saisueye [1d\]: nonochan is pro explanation
]
;B[lp]BL[92.665]C[GoTreasury [19k\]: thanks, maf
]
;W[kq]WL[789.859]C[nonochan [6d\]: but things can get nasty if W plays g16 
Rochan [5k\]: nonochan
Rochan [5k\]: was m6 sente before?
nonochan [6d\]: ??
]
;B[jq]BL[55.71]C[Realms [5k\]: wlove the sente that see
]
;W[ln]WL[786.969]C[DapperDan [5k\]: wow
]
;B[mm]BL[43.799]C[DapperDan [5k\]: whit e going to get all center
]
;W[mn]WL[783.67]C[nonochan [6d\]: I only answer relevant questions, not random suggestions
Fernando [1d\]: N7 ;/
]
;B[rm]BL[31.611]C[Rochan [5k\]: well it was relevant
]
;W[rl]WL[777.393]C[nonochan [6d\]: How do you?
Rochan [5k\]: but not anymore :P
Rochan [5k\]: since its in the past
nonochan [6d\]: It was never relevant
]
;B[jn]BL[30]OB[5]C[DapperDan [5k\]: nonochan is  your picture of you
Rochan [5k\]: I was thinking if m6 would get white sente by threat of cutting m4 , but maybe that would ruin bot group?
Realms [5k\]: good
]
;W[jm]WL[761.604]
;B[im]BL[275.094]
;W[jl]WL[758.333]C[nonochan [6d\]: B blew it more or less
]
;B[kn]BL[262.957]
;W[km]WL[756.167]C[NorthWind [6k\]: s2
Javaness [2d\]: nice pictures
mooooo [9k\]: open triangle oO
Realms [5k\]: empty triangule
mafutrct [5d?\]: white is just blocking his area, what else could he play
Realms [5k\]: ^^
Realms [5k\]: nor open
]
;B[il]BL[204.91]C[Realms [5k\]: mmm
DapperDan [5k\]: top petty big for black
nonochan [6d\]: j8 j9 k9 k10 l9 m7 
]
;W[ik]WL[746.335]C[DapperDan [5k\]: if can hold onto bottom  left maybe still close
nonochan [6d\]: but l4 might be a problem for B
Viking [3d\]: B leads
dangerduck [6k\]: so like
dangerduck [6k\]: w seems like already won, no?
Fernando [1d\]: no
dangerduck [6k\]: how no?
DapperDan [5k\]: look at top
Viking [3d\]: B11then B6
boTbl4 [4k\]: b have to protect j6 
dangerduck [6k\]: b has big top and bottom corner
DapperDan [5k\]: look at bottom left
]
;B[hk]BL[109.6]C[dangerduck [6k\]: but white looks like has more
]
;W[ij]WL[742.43]C[dangerduck [6k\]: eh
laama: b top and lower left are both big but w may still try something at lower side, so many cuttingpoints here
NorthWind [6k\]: count and find out
GoTreasury [19k\]: does b.M7 have any chance of survival?
mafutrct [5d?\]: no
Fernando [1d\]: b m7 is buried
]
;B[fn]BL[72.442]C[DapperDan [5k\]: white thinking sansan
Prym [-\]: m7 empty
DapperDan [5k\]: lol
laama: around b12 quite big, atleast 10 points straight and b has follow up moves there, gote for white though
]
;W[bo]WL[705.51]
;B[bp]BL[67.803]
;W[eo]WL[704.071]C[DapperDan [5k\]: wow
Fernando [1d\]: w slams down the stones...
]
;B[bn]BL[51.09]
;W[bm]WL[701.58]C[DapperDan [5k\]: that' why he's 9p
GoTreasury [19k\]: but if b o8 still have a chance to kill w.p8 and make surval run to b.Q6, no?
]
;B[ao]BL[46.301]
;W[en]WL[700.637]C[mafutrct [5d?\]: oO
]
;B[go]BL[22.035]C[NorthWind [6k\]: b11
mafutrct [5d?\]: no
mafutrct [5d?\]: there is nothing
]
;W[ke]WL[683.164]C[DapperDan [5k\]: what was wrong with f5
]
;B[jc]BL[13.619]
;W[de]WL[677.95]
;B[ee]BL[7.507]C[dangerduck [6k\]: cut!
]
;W[db]WL[675.968]
;B[eb]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ca]WL[674.065]C[mafutrct [5d?\]: f5 is bad shape
]
;B[fc]BL[30]OB[5]C[mihi [5d\]: B12
]
;W[jr]WL[666.856]
;B[ir]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[kr]WL[665.792]C[nonochan [6d\]: I already discussed that when B played d13 
TitePoirre: b12
]
;B[hq]BL[30]OB[5]C[laama: with f5, w push at e4 and f4, then f7 is more troublesome
dangerduck [6k\]: seems big 
boTbl4 [4k\]: s2 
dangerduck [6k\]: b12 not big?
holynec [?\]: nono, who do you think is is favorable!
dreamto9d [4k\]: 9p is playing ?
dangerduck [6k\]: big gote of course...
]
;W[ei]WL[632.197]C[Villarce [1d\]: black seems overconcantrated at bottom
GoTreasury [19k\]: would b.h13 gives a possible contest to center?
]
;B[eh]BL[30]OB[5]C[dangerduck [6k\]: if w L4, how does P4 live?
]
;W[fh]WL[623.145]C[dangerduck [6k\]: is S5 space enough?
dangerduck [6k\]: oh, nm
dangerduck [6k\]: s2 miai
management [2d?\]: w going for 0.5 win?
nonochan [6d\]: B has about 85 pts and W about 70 at this point
]
;B[dh]BL[30]OB[5]C[Mote [5k\]: h8 ?
]
;W[fg]WL[605.288]C[dangerduck [6k\]: CUT
dangerduck [6k\]: lol
archane [18k\]: e14
mafutrct [5d?\]: cut where?
]
;B[ef]BL[30]OB[4]C[dangerduck [6k\]: nothing
nonochan [6d\]: if f14, w can play e14 e13 b12 to connect
dangerduck [6k\]: cut is pointless
]
;W[hl]WL[598.105]C[imagine [3k\]: L4
Mote [5k\]: :) 
dangerduck [6k\]: yay
nonochan [6d\]: g8 is normal
dangerduck [6k\]: why is this not normal?
moka [-\]: it's over for black
]
;B[fl]BL[30]OB[4]C[Mote [5k\]: i was right ! i'm 9d from korea :D
Fernando [1d\]: g8 is devastating
]
;W[in]WL[571.106]C[sendol [-\]: This is a demonstration game. White is Mr. Kim Dongyeop 9p
]
;B[hm]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[kp]WL[569.133]C[sendol [-\]: Head teacher at Baduk World, www.bwk.or.kr
nonochan [6d\]: s2 ?
Goemon [2k?\]: q4 dead or no moyo for bottom
Fernando [1d\]: now comes 9p magic
dangerduck [6k\]: sente!
]
;B[qm]BL[30]OB[4]C[nonochan [6d\]: s5 looks safer now
dangerduck [6k\]: eh? not S2?
]
;W[jo]WL[562.647]C[Rochan [5k\]:  this was painful :P
nonochan [6d\]: e9 ?
power [3k\]: what does this game demonstrate?
]
;B[sl]BL[30]OB[4]C[Goemon [2k?\]: power
Fernando [1d\]: pwnage
dangerduck [6k\]: time preussure
saisueye [1d\]: 9p's skill lol duh
NorthWind [6k\]: how to come back from 15 points down
Javaness [2d\]: does anyone know who ha is?
dangerduck [6k\]: th einfant
]
;W[rj]WL[540.578]C[nonochan [6d\]: B should play q8 q9 q7, I think
sendol [-\]: French 5d, one of my students
dangerduck [6k\]: ooo
Goemon [2k?\]: ha seems like a victom so far ^^
]
;B[om]BL[257.079]
;W[nm]WL[537.794]C[dangerduck [6k\]: white added time for black
dangerduck [6k\]: ?
jitte [2d?\]: nice ko
]
;B[pl]BL[246.24]C[sendol [-\]: Maxence Lothe
nonochan [6d\]: B cannnot play this ko
]
;W[pk]WL[535.622]C[dangerduck [6k\]: why would black make a ko?
dangerduck [6k\]: just connect
]
;B[pm]BL[223.988]C[nonochan [6d\]: not just like that
laama: just like that
dangerduck [6k\]: they can't read our dribble, right?
]
;W[ok]WL[512.814]C[Academic [7k\]: naw
dangerduck [6k\]: good :)
nonochan [6d\]: If you are behind and have plenty of ko threats and q4 is NOT in danger of dying, this would be a great place to start a ko
]
;B[ek]BL[209.373]
;W[dl]WL[509.313]C[mafutrct [5d?\]: and even if they could.. :)
dangerduck [6k\]: ooo
]
;B[hj]BL[198.011]
;W[hi]WL[504.533]C[dangerduck [6k\]: f9 cut so tempting
dangerduck [6k\]: (later)
dangerduck [6k\]: b12 not big?
kostuek [-\]: so tempting later?
mafutrct [5d?\]: b12 does not work
dangerduck [6k\]: it takes points...
dangerduck [6k\]: meh
dangerduck [6k\]: kyu moves :(
mafutrct [5d?\]: nor does f9
]
;B[bi]BL[133.922]C[nonochan [6d\]: probably, duck, to you ugly girsl are tempting too
dangerduck [6k\]: YES
mafutrct [5d?\]: after w e11, b12 is no very big anymore
nonochan [6d\]: I suspected that
Rochan [5k\]: haha
dangerduck [6k\]: lol
Rochan [5k\]: as did I
mihi [5d\]: G7?
dangerduck [6k\]: ugly ducklings
]
;W[bj]WL[462.244]C[nonochan [6d\]: duck chicks
]
;B[bh]BL[105.707]
;W[rr]WL[455.505]C[dangerduck [6k\]: J5 area not big?
]
;B[ro]BL[99.861]C[dangerduck [6k\]: j4?
boTbl4 [4k\]: g8 ?
GoTreasury [19k\]: is it wise to protect what's left by moving b.G14?
Petershen [3d\]: black win
dangerduck [6k\]: no
dangerduck [6k\]: G14 does nothing
NorthWind [6k\]: b13
dangerduck [6k\]: G7 lol
GoTreasury [19k\]: g14 makes the extention for black into b11, no?
dangerduck [6k\]: ?
nonochan [6d\]: B has amost 90 pts
Javaness [2d\]: sabu very strong
]
;W[oo]WL[372.181]C[dangerduck [6k\]: tautological almost
]
;B[po]BL[86.374]C[Vincent [1d\]: B is winning
]
;W[hp]WL[365.018]C[dangerduck [6k\]: yay
Petershen [3d\]:  black win,
kostuek [-\]: weak 9p
dangerduck [6k\]: j5?
nonochan [6d\]: W has just over 70 pts
NorthWind [6k\]: ouch
nocturne19 [2k\]: '.' B's 9dan
mafutrct [5d?\]: j5 a trap?
]
;B[gp]BL[47.881]C[Petershen [3d\]: black have near 90 pts
]
;W[io]WL[360.215]C[dangerduck [6k\]: j5 suicide ^_^
nonochan [6d\]: Peter, can you paraphrase?
ucbucuk [-\]: m15 
dangerduck [6k\]: why?
taiji [1d\]: cute baby ^o^
llcrt [9k\]: h5?
minismurf [-\]: followup at g7?
]
;B[gl]BL[30]OB[5]C[minismurf [-\]: indeed
nocturne19 [2k\]: nice
dangerduck [6k\]: a15 next for black?
ucbucuk [-\]: n15 big also
gooooo [5k?\]: n15 looks nice
Goemon [2k?\]: e4
]
;W[ej]WL[321.727]
;B[ho]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ip]WL[318.478]
;B[iq]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[me]WL[314.221]C[mafutrct [5d?\]: only small moves left
]
;B[ne]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[md]WL[313.133]
;B[mc]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[le]WL[311.534]C[dangerduck [6k\]: scorpion
Goemon [2k?\]: sente is important here\]\\
]
;B[hn]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ko]WL[309.34]C[nonochan [6d\]: Peter, how many pts does W have?
]
;B[am]BL[30]OB[5]C[dangerduck [6k\]: a8
Petershen [3d\]: 75
]
;W[al]WL[281.558]C[TitePoirre: a9 better
BALLZ [4k\]: is q17 something for w?
]
;B[an]BL[30]OB[5]C[BALLZ [4k\]: or q18 or something in that area
mafutrct [5d?\]: a9 o.o never seen
]
;W[fk]WL[263.599]C[dangerduck [6k\]: gotes
dangerduck [6k\]: A15
dangerduck [6k\]: lol
dangerduck [6k\]: jk
]
;B[aj]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ak]WL[256.332]C[Petershen [3d\]:  now white is more than 80
Academic [7k\]: g10 now w move
nonochan [6d\]: So, teh difference is about 15 pts
]
;B[fj]BL[30]OB[5]C[nonochan [6d\]: w captured e9 
dangerduck [6k\]: hmm
]
;W[fi]WL[237.262]C[lb: ?h
]
;B[gk]BL[30]OB[5]C[lb: hi
Petershen [3d\]: not too much, black is strong ,
Mukti [4d\]: I count about 8 point lead for black, which will surely dimisish abit more in the endgame.
dangerduck [6k\]: b13?
dangerduck [6k\]: or too small?
sendol [-\]: After the game review Mr. Kim said he felt like playing some games with high dan players so stick around after :)
dangerduck [6k\]: oh snap
imagine [3k\]: j1
dangerduck [6k\]: w must answer?
nonochan [6d\]: There is almost no place where B can loose so many pts
rtyup2: d9 forced
gooooo [5k?\]: sendol, wow, thats great!
dangerduck [6k\]: nm
dangerduck [6k\]: jk
gooooo [5k?\]: roln vs sabu? :D
TitePoirre: t10
Academic [7k\]: is this strong 9p?
nonochan [6d\]: B is threatening d7 
rtyup2: white has to answer there..
kostuek [-\]: a weak one
Arman [2k\]: may be w just kidding in this game...
Academic [7k\]: kk
]
;W[ai]WL[164.811]C[Nightfawk [2k\]: 9 p is generally not weak
thatsgreat [11k\]: lol
Academic [7k\]: but compared to other 9p
eulergauss [11k\]: how many s
Academic [7k\]: or just pros in general
]
;B[bf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[be]WL[161.631]C[Petershen [3d\]: black is too large on right up 
nonochan [6d\]: The other day in Taiwan, I played a 9p in real life. I lost by 3 pts
]
;B[bg]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[is]WL[157.537]C[Academic [7k\]: nice
eulergauss [11k\]: how many dan is black ?
]
;B[hs]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[js]WL[156.254]C[Academic [7k\]: 5
sendol [-\]: Black is 5 dan
nonochan [6d\]: Handicap was 2 stones, though
]
;B[gr]BL[30]OB[5]C[eulergauss [11k\]: thank
]
;W[sk]WL[149.504]C[eulergauss [11k\]: he is ash
eulergauss [11k\]: 6l
power [3k\]: 4 stones
]
;B[sm]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[lc]WL[145.498]C[dangerduck [6k\]: nonochan talking about himself
]
;B[lb]BL[30]OB[5]C[eulergauss [11k\]:  shit
]
;W[ep]WL[136.598]C[power [3k\]: oh
]
;B[eq]BL[30]OB[5]C[eulergauss [11k\]: a big shit
dangerduck [6k\]: ?
mafutrct [5d?\]: ...
ExplO [2d\]: watchyour language eulergauss
]
;W[fm]WL[123.267]C[Petershen [3d\]: nonochan ,maybe 5d in real life
thatsgreat [11k\]: ..
]
;B[gm]BL[30]OB[5]C[dangerduck [6k\]: ship high in transport
]
;W[em]WL[122.158]
;B[do]BL[30]OB[5]C[zztgu: congrats euler
eulergauss [11k\]: a fucking dick
power [3k\]: lol
]
;W[ge]WL[110.871]C[mafutrct [5d?\]: ...
dangerduck [6k\]: asking for ban lol
Nightfawk [2k\]: slow?
]
;B[gd]BL[30]OB[5]C[Prym [-\]: 9p can win by as many (or as little) points as they wish
Goemon [2k?\]: watch your language
saisueye [1d\]: pff
dangerduck [6k\]: obviously asking for it
nonochan [6d\]: Peter, watch your language
simple [1d\]: t2 big?
]
;W[sq]WL[81.449]
;B[sp]BL[30]OB[5]C[power [3k\]: [2k?\]
]
;W[sr]WL[79.97]C[bolbi [-\]: he's gone
zztgu: how come?
dangerduck [6k\]: shizzzle
]
;B[dn]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[he]WL[67.181]C[thatsgreat [11k\]: hmm?
saisueye [1d\]: shizzle the dizzle
]
;B[dm]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[bl]WL[65.163]C[dangerduck [6k\]: for rizzle?
Nightfawk [2k\]: and since he ve gone we can watch this game peacefully .... :=) 
saisueye [1d\]: that's what my friend always said to me
dangerduck [6k\]: e9 gote points now
]
;B[dk]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ck]WL[62.8]C[nonochan [6d\]: h16 is best?
]
;B[fk]BL[30]OB[5]C[power [3k\]: your friend is gay
]
;W[hd]WL[60.788]C[nonochan [6d\]: d9 is bad
]
;B[hc]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ea]WL[56.279]C[Goemon [2k?\]: power!
]
;B[fa]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[da]WL[55.337]C[saisueye [1d\]: ban him
power [3k\]: wat
saisueye [1d\]: lol
dangerduck [6k\]: t12
]
;B[ae]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ed]WL[47.924]C[Feminist [11k\]: is that a special game or something?
nonochan [6d\]: d9 made a12 smaller
]
;B[ec]BL[30]OB[5]C[dangerduck [6k\]: ooo
]
;W[fe]WL[44.22]C[Petershen [3d\]: ?
sloppyplay [12k?\]: normally for a hc game pros will try to keep the score close so that it will provide a chance for the students to fight back.
]
;B[af]BL[30]OB[5]C[Petershen [3d\]:  why, just guess
]
;W[ah]WL[41.153]
;B[ad]BL[30]OB[5]C[dangerduck [6k\]: t13?
dangerduck [6k\]: meh
]
;W[je]WL[22.759]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[5]C[dangerduck [6k\]: for rizzle?
]
;W[gf]WL[17.733]C[mikan [1d\]: Great!
]
;B[ac]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ab]WL[15.387]C[nonochan [6d\]: g11 g12 
]
;B[fo]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[jd]WL[10.915]C[nonochan [6d\]: k16 
]
;B[ic]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[sg]WL[1.194]C[dangerduck [6k\]: t13 
dangerduck [6k\]: yay
dangerduck [6k\]: so many moves later
nonochan [6d\]: f5 is too small - only 1 1/3 pts
just9x9 [-\]: why is this game on top of game list? is it some special game?
dangerduck [6k\]: yes
holynec [?\]: is SE lying to me?
]
;B[sf]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[sh]WL[30]OW[5]C[sendol [-\]: This is a demonstration game between Kim Dongyeop 9p and one of my students who is a french 5 dan
]
;B[fp]BL[30]OB[4]C[NorthWind [6k\]: sure , 9p always special
]
;W[cl]WL[30]OW[5]C[kostuek [-\]: se always lying
sendol [-\]: Mr. Kim is the head of Baduk World, www.bwk.or.kr
]
;B[gi]BL[30]OB[4]C[nonochan [6d\]: Before the endgame, B was ahead about 15 pts
]
;W[gh]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gj]BL[30]OB[4]C[dangerduck [6k\]: so he demonstrates....yose?
]
;W[ld]WL[30]OW[5]C[nonochan [6d\]: B needs to add a move at g18 
pukram [2k\]: who is black ?
dreamto9d [4k\]: w is losing
just9x9 [-\]: thx sendol
]
;B[ed]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[aj]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[]BL[30]OB[3]TW[aa][ba][cb][jf][kf][gg][hg][ig][jg][kg][hh][ih][jh][kh][lh][mh][nh][ii][ji][ki][li][mi][ni][oi][pi][qi][ri][si][jj][kj][lj][mj][nj][oj][pj][qj][sj][bk][jk][kk][lk][mk][nk][qk][rk][kl][ll][ml][nl][lm][mm][jn][kn][lr][mr][nr][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]TB[ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][fb][gb][hb][ib][jb][kb][mb][nb][ob][pb][qb][rb][sb][oc][pc][qc][rc][sc][qd][rd][sd][oe][pe][se][of][pf][qf][hl][gn][qn][rn][sn][bo][qo][so][ap][cp][qp][rp][aq][bq][cq][dq][gq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][fr][hr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs]C[dangerduck [6k\]: really?
dangerduck [6k\]: w wins I thought
Goemon [2k?\]: gg
ha [-\]: thanks for the game
dangerduck [6k\]: oh, no komi
nonochan [6d\]: he demonstrates the unbearable lightness of life
gwenou [5k\]: gg
krikri [1d\]: thx 
Nightfawk [2k\]: with 5,5 pints extra moku yes
sabu [-\]: thx for the game
Noahid [7k\]: 5,5 without komi
Nightfawk [2k\]: great game 
sendol [-\]: Ok we will begin reviewing in a few seconds
])
