(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[0]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[RoseDuke]PB[kghin]WR[9d]BR[8d]DT[2010-03-12]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[kghin [8d\]: hi
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[oo]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: shooowtime
]
;B[dp]BL[60]OB[5]C[Woodrose [5d\]: E15
]
;W[ee]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: :D
]
;B[jq]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[jo]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[qo]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[qp]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[pp]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[po]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[qq]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[rp]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[qn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[pq]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[op]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[qr]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[oq]BL[60]OB[5]C[Zara [6k\]: kghin knows how to handle 5-5
]
;W[rq]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[pr]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[or]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[qq]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[pm]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[qm]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[pq]WL[60]OW[5]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: q1 
]
;B[no]BL[60]OB[5]C[Woodrose [5d\]: ...
bakedsagi [3k\]: :)
]
;W[pl]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ql]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ps]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[pk]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[nm]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[nn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[om]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[mm]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ok]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[pj]BL[60]OB[5]C[semakute [4k\]: hi
]
;W[ml]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ll]BL[60]OB[5]C[semakute [4k\]: never seen before
Berker [19k?\]: interesting opening by white
Zara [6k\]: N6 then O4?
]
;W[mn]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[lm]BL[60]OB[5]C[ajimonkeh [1k?\]: cool
]
;W[np]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: haha yeah
]
;B[mo]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[nq]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[kp]BL[60]OB[5]C[ajimonkeh [1k?\]: f4
]
;W[iq]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[gq]BL[60]OB[5]C[ajimonkeh [1k?\]: I fail :(
]
;W[ko]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[lo]BL[60]OB[5]C[Woodstock [-\]: what was _that_?
]
;W[hq]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[gp]BL[60]OB[5]C[Orandajinn [2k\]: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
]
;W[ho]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[jp]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[lp]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[lq]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[mp]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ip]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[kn]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: w too strong
Woodstock [-\]: kghin just messed up
]
;B[io]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[in]WL[60]OW[5]C[SpenceR [4k\]: yea i think he's underestimating rose
]
;B[hn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ln]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[im]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[jn]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[go]BL[60]OB[5]C[bakedsagi [3k\]: nice opening :D
]
;W[qf]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[qe]BL[60]OB[5]C[ManoNegra [7d?\]: still.. w seems overconcentrated
]
;W[pf]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[nd]BL[60]OB[5]C[ManoNegra [7d?\]: too many useless stones
]
;W[rj]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[rk]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[qj]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[qk]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[qh]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ph]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[nf]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[nh]BL[60]OB[5]C[Zara [6k\]: better than no stones ;D
]
;W[lf]WL[60]OW[5]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: sometimes not
]
;B[ld]BL[60]OB[5]C[Zara [6k\]: in this case?
]
;W[oj]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[pi]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[rg]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[lh]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[jf]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[jh]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[jd]WL[60]OW[5]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: only 20-25 pts in the corner but it doesnt affect the outside so much
]
;B[dd]BL[60]OB[5]C[asdfyxcv [2k\]: depends on your definition of useless, whether useless stuff is better than nothing ;)
]
;W[ed]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[dc]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ec]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[cf]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ce]WL[60]OW[5]C[leefeidao [2k\]: kghin near 9d
]
;B[de]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[df]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[be]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[cg]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[bf]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[dg]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[mj]BL[60]OB[5]C[Zara [6k\]: but 10 stones captured, so 35 points. but hm k its overconcentrated i guess thats right
]
;W[lk]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[jm]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[on]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[kk]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[hm]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[gn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[kl]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[lj]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[km]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ke]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[kf]WL[60]OW[5]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: 25 pts with the captured stones of course
]
;B[je]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ie]WL[60]OW[5]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: now 30-35
]
;B[id]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: i count b+38.5
]
;B[ic]BL[60]OB[5]C[Gatsu55 [11k\]: that is se
Gatsu55 [11k\]: >_>
]
;W[ib]WL[60]OW[5]C[Proffffff [17k\]: Is it this the usually style for rose?
]
;B[hb]BL[60]OB[5]C[Orandajinn [2k\]: No
Orandajinn [2k\]: No
Orandajinn [2k\]: No
]
;W[kb]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ia]BL[60]OB[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: yes
Onmyoji [2d\]: yes
]
;W[jb]WL[60]OW[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: yes
CLaser [9k\]: ¿
Orandajinn [2k\]: No
Orandajinn [2k\]: No
Orandajinn [2k\]: No
huggy [3k\]: my favorite counter has taken a long break from counting
voldie [-\]: yes but he usualy plays 5-5 as black
]
;B[hc]BL[60]OB[5]C[Altist [1k\]: b in troule
psykovsky: mhhh pizza
Woodstock [-\]: N16
Altist [1k\]: n17
]
;W[lc]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[mc]BL[60]OB[5]C[Altist [1k\]: m17 is nice move
]
;W[mb]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: why not L16 before?
]
;B[nb]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[kd]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[le]BL[60]OB[5]C[rytm [?\]: l16 
]
;W[na]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[oa]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ma]WL[60]OW[5]C[leachy [7k\]: pizza meme, onmyoji count...kgs needs help ;(
]
;B[he]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[if]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[hf]BL[60]OB[5]C[psykovsky: kgs needs more trolls
]
;W[hg]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ff]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[gd]WL[60]OW[5]C[wwwww [9k\]: rose is very strong..
psykovsky: they will remove the junk stones
]
;B[hd]BL[60]OB[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: pizza is too forced
]
;W[gg]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[gf]BL[60]OB[5]C[psykovsky: SE is forced
Orandajinn [2k\]: hi
Onmyoji [2d\]: hi
Orandajinn [2k\]: how are you
psykovsky: hes counting
]
;W[fg]WL[60]OW[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: goood u`??
]
;B[ef]BL[60]OB[5]C[Woodstock [-\]: no, SE is senseless...but at least most people seem honestly astonished about it
glue [-\]: psykovsky & Orandajinn, please be quiet now
]
;W[eg]WL[60]OW[5]C[Orandajinn [2k\]: me 2 thx
CLaser [9k\]: lol
Orandajinn [2k\]: oh ok
psykovsky: w wants semai?
psykovsky: can he win it?
psykovsky: i dont think so
dsfsdfsf: what is semai?
]
;B[fb]BL[60]OB[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: dead
saolasin: b dead or w alive in corner
]
;W[eb]WL[60]OW[5]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: capturing race
MrZNF [1d\]: is Oranda banned?! 0.
fennel [2k\]: hi
skrood [5k\]: big semedori at least
]
;B[db]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[fc]WL[60]OW[5]C[hyunsu [2k\]: omg
psykovsky: b lost a lot in bottom right he really got tobbed there
Altist [1k\]: seki?
SpenceR [4k\]: big semedori aren't very good unless w actually gets something
]
;B[gb]BL[60]OB[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: ko
gentil [4d\]: hehe, kghin mentions me in his info :)
lapindix [7k\]: psykov , You make statements, questions AND  answers ... not bad
Zara [6k\]: D19
codon [3k\]: why d18 fist é8
]
;W[da]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: mb seki
codon [3k\]: e18
psykovsky: i just like to chat
skrood [5k\]: well, b already got d13 wall
]
;B[fa]BL[60]OB[5]C[skrood [5k\]: err. w.
Zara [6k\]: C18
]
;W[ea]WL[60]OW[5]C[hyunsu [2k\]: b lost 
Zara [6k\]: hmm
Zara [6k\]: yeah
]
;B[fe]BL[60]OB[5]C[LaPatridge [3d\]: Kong Kong friend
Zara [6k\]: C18?
]
;W[ob]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[pb]BL[60]OB[5]C[psykovsky: thx for the kick , do you feel like a man now glue? jeez i realized  i was a bit over the line  but then i started talking about the game...
]
;W[pa]WL[60]OW[5]C[MrZNF [1d\]: and then he got banned again :D
]
;B[qb]BL[60]OB[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: i hope glue doesnt feel too manly
bitzi [-\]: isn't glue a girl
dsfsdfsf: ban pls
Onmyoji [2d\]: yes
psykovsky: again... well w should approach c6 soon
lapindix [7k\]: P16 ?
]
;W[bc]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[cb]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[bb]WL[60]OW[5]C[SpenceR [4k\]: nice
Altist [1k\]: c19
hyunsu [2k\]: china lost at The 11th Nongshim Cup 
]
;B[ca]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[cd]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: oh
psykovsky: well senseis  worst kgs admin sited definatly getting an update for stupid ignorant behaviour
dsfsdfsf: ???
Zara [6k\]: w lost
Zara [6k\]: ?!?!?
]
;B[fd]BL[60]OB[5]C[Vinata [5d\]: who won the last game?
]
;W[bg]WL[60]OW[5]C[wwwww [9k\]: a15 dead
lapindix [7k\]: W so amaizing
KnifeEye [3k\]: white gained too zara
Zara [6k\]: ok
Zara [6k\]: sry
Zara [6k\]: haha
saolasin: psy stop it XD
]
;B[cm]BL[60]OB[5]C[hyunsu [2k\]: guli
Mikki62 [1k\]: nice nice
Vinata [5d\]: in Nonshim cup?
matt383 [8k\]: p16?
IlanKeshet [5k\]: w wall seems pretty useless
hyunsu [2k\]: http://unlimitedgo.blogspot.com/2010/03/china-or-korea.html
IlanKeshet [5k\]: i wonder how he will do something with it
]
;W[er]WL[60]OW[5]C[vogelfrei [1d\]: glue, if you are having a bad day, you should really just log off instead of miusing your admin rights
skrood [5k\]: bye
]
;B[fr]BL[60]OB[5]C[glue [-\]: keep the kibbitz about the game please
vogelfrei [1d\]: i did and got kicked..
glue [-\]: next one you will get a ban
matt383 [8k\]: KICK ME PLS
hyunsu [2k\]: ssshhh
dsfsdfsf: yea ban him!!
]
;W[cq]WL[60]OW[5]C[CLaser [9k\]: thick letters
vogelfrei [1d\]: if i talk about game i get ban?
dsfsdfsf: sure
MrZNF [1d\]: lol
PowRanger [?\]: apple juice with bubbles is just wrong
Onmyoji [2d\]: sometimes yes
glue [-\]: please, no caps
asdfyxcv [2k\]: that's because you are 'vogelfrei'
tim2718281 [4k\]: did w get enough out of c15 etc?
gentil [4d\]: all of you are playing with fire... :)
]
;B[bo]BL[60]OB[5]C[gentil [4d\]: let's look how kghin will win
]
;W[bp]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[br]BL[60]OB[5]C[matt383 [8k\]: can someone kick glue just for fun? :D a superadmin or somebody?
IcancerI [3k\]: doesnt belong to our real life i think. getting banned on kgs.
]
;W[co]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[bn]BL[60]OB[5]C[daladim [1d\]: can an admin ban himself ?
dsfsdfsf: lol
MrZNF [1d\]: can an admin ban another admin?
glue [-\]: back tot he game now
matt383 [8k\]: kick us all
TeeSushi [3d\]: tot lol
wwwww [9k\]: p17 big?
saolasin: why ban glue? she is so wonderful :( i like her very much
tim2718281 [4k\]: w d5?
]
;W[ki]WL[60]OW[5]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: the D13 wall... seems very uneffective
matt383 [8k\]: i got kicked
matt383 [8k\]: thanks glue
]
;B[kj]BL[60]OB[5]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: who agrees?
Zara [6k\]: please say this again ilan :D
]
;W[ji]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ii]BL[60]OB[5]C[TomoChan [2k\]: A while ago a pro and student had a public teaching game here. The kibitz was awful and actually disturbing the players because they could see it. I repeatedly asked admins to do their job and put a stop to the nonsense but was ignored. Glue's behaviour today just proves how arbitrary and useless these admis are and all they are on is a power trip and they could care less about making this a better server.
daladim [1d\]: huh
sixsix [-\]: oh grow up
]
;W[kh]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: wohoo
]
;B[jj]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ih]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[li]BL[60]OB[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: too long didnt read
]
;W[jg]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: :D
glue [-\]: TomoChan, sorry I was not around by that time, anyway, please keep such comments out of kibbitz
TeeSushi [3d\]: lol
saolasin: that's a long story.... ignored
]
;B[re]BL[60]OB[5]C[OohAah [7d\]: wow, political rant on kgs, cool
MrZNF [1d\]: hahaha
PowRanger [?\]: way too long to read
]
;W[ik]WL[60]OW[5]C[vogelfrei [1d\]: i mean counter strike admions are sensible folks...
Zara [6k\]: O17 sente?
MrZNF [1d\]: PowRanger, try see it as 30 different comments
ajimonkeh [1k?\]: lots of aji this game
IlanKeshet [5k\]: mmm
]
;B[pg]BL[60]OB[5]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: w wall seems to work well now
CLaser [9k\]: 9k cannot read english of long sentence
]
;W[rf]WL[60]OW[5]C[skrood [5k\]: ^^
ajimonkeh [1k?\]: wow
wwwww [9k\]: p14 can cut?
ajimonkeh [1k?\]: because of
Zara [6k\]: incoming ko
Mikki62 [1k\]: p14?
PowRanger [?\]: then it must be... spam!
Fin2K [1k?\]: too big ko
]
;B[mf]BL[60]OB[5]C[leachy [7k\]: p14 p15
ajimonkeh [1k?\]: p14 p15 p13 q15 o15 r16 s16 p16 
BUM [7d\]: I dont talk cuz admin here
IlanKeshet [5k\]: thanks leachy
skrood [5k\]: looks b falling apart
wwwww [9k\]: too long sepuence
OohAah [7d\]: o15 
Zara [6k\]: i dont get N14
Woodstock [-\]: N13?
Zara [6k\]: N15
OohAah [7d\]: hmm, maybe not
Zara [6k\]: ?
IcancerI [3k\]: where is all the fun gone?
gofreddy [4k\]: o 15 right
TeeSushi [3d\]: n13 o15 n15 p14  maybe?
lopez [3d\]: 014?
Onmyoji [2d\]: its a cut
ajimonkeh [1k?\]: I like n13
]
;W[mg]WL[60]OW[5]C[drau [4k\]: b h8 small?
DerWitt [1d\]: what is there for b?
hyunsu [2k\]: res
]
;B[ne]BL[60]OB[5]C[leachy [7k\]: p14 p15 p13 p16 actually
matt383 [8k\]: TeeSushi: after n15 sente n16
OohAah [7d\]: p15 
]
;W[oe]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: P15
DerWitt [1d\]: ah
Zara [6k\]: sente
pybc [16k\]: ur good Teesushi
DerWitt [1d\]: ko?
]
;B[og]BL[60]OB[5]C[Zara [6k\]: yes
Zara [6k\]: i think so
pybc [16k\]: P16!
TeeSushi [3d\]: not good enough ^^
]
;W[of]WL[60]OW[5]C[pybc [16k\]: dang
IlanKeshet [5k\]: might as well just randomly shout out ko
]
;B[hl]BL[60]OB[5]C[Zara [6k\]: hm
drau [4k\]: ok
DerWitt [1d\]: no threats for b
wwwww [9k\]: no n15?!?!
]
;W[oi]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ro]BL[60]OB[5]C[hyunsu [2k\]: no
]
;W[so]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[sn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[rm]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[mh]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ng]WL[60]OW[5]C[dsfsdfsf: res
Zara [6k\]: b done
]
;B[oh]BL[60]OB[5]C[pybc [16k\]: o wowwwww
sixsix [-\]: so who was it who wanted to see a use for the wall?
Onmyoji [2d\]: kill
pybc [16k\]: J10!
]
;W[ni]WL[60]OW[5]C[Mikki62 [1k\]: nice nice
pybc [16k\]: nvm
]
;B[ij]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[hk]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[gj]BL[60]OB[5]C[gofreddy [4k\]: love that !
]
;W[gk]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[fj]BL[60]OB[5]C[IlanKeshet [5k\]: wall worked so beautifully
gofreddy [4k\]: i bet b dead
pybc [16k\]: holi frick
Mikki62 [1k\]: now thw wall works
taiji [1k\]: b hard pwned
IlanKeshet [5k\]: ill never doubt that wall ever
ajimonkeh [1k?\]: b not dead
aChoai [2d\]: h8 so stupid
DerWitt [1d\]: b lives I think
]
;W[fk]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ej]BL[60]OB[5]C[gofreddy [4k\]: h 10 cut no ?
Zara [6k\]: it was ok to doubt, u didnt see purpose so you doubt. nothing more natural than that
IlanKeshet [5k\]: living means nothing.. at least now w puts his wall to good use
JoK [5k\]: are the last 30 moves just to connect whites bottom left corner to the center o.O awesome
]
;W[ek]WL[60]OW[5]C[ajimonkeh [1k?\]: K8 no choice
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: black i dont think can block the cut
TeeSushi [3d\]: c3 group getting ugly now
wwwww [9k\]: live but no land
]
;B[dk]BL[60]OB[5]C[dsfsdfsf: lol
]
;W[gm]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[fm]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[gl]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[di]BL[60]OB[5]C[dsfsdfsf: live
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: now it can
KillooQ [3k\]: amazing -.-"
]
;W[dl]WL[60]OW[5]C[OohAah [7d\]: not good enough for white..
]
;B[ck]BL[60]OB[5]C[ajimonkeh [1k?\]: yea
dsfsdfsf: kghin 2 good
ajimonkeh [1k?\]: perhaps some moves we don't see :)
Fin2K [1k?\]: w will win easy from now on
Onmyoji [2d\]: i count w+101.5
aChoai [2d\]: p16 now
]
;W[dq]WL[60]OW[5]C[OohAah [7d\]: has to get something with d3 group
taiji [1k\]: w up
BUM [7d\]: yes
evanj [2d\]: i don't see how that is possible
]
;B[ep]BL[60]OB[5]C[BUM [7d\]: btw I have an advice when aan admin is rude, stop talk totally :)
Fin2K [1k?\]: a2?
BUM [7d\]: b won
hyunsu [2k\]: --"
dsfsdfsf: no hope
pybc [16k\]: no way white won
]
;W[bq]WL[60]OW[5]C[BUM [7d\]: ok you know better
]
;B[cr]BL[60]OB[5]C[pybc [16k\]: (:
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: white probally will win by res
saolasin: bum what's wrong with you and admins :D
TeeSushi [3d\]: corner for the game
Zara [6k\]: kghin never resigns
PowRanger [?\]: ye, by his own :x
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: but points i dont see being over 50
BUM [7d\]: too arrogant
Fosh: semms ko
saolasin: did they hurt you heart?
tim2718281 [4k\]: w e3 do?
hyunsu [2k\]: lol
glue [-\]: please stick to game comments
DerWitt [1d\]: :)
hyunsu [2k\]: the game
hyunsu [2k\]: xD
Denniskutl [2d\]: i have just tried and it works, you can even censor admins
]
;W[bs]WL[60]OW[5]C[Denniskutl [2d\]: argh bad timing :)
DerWitt [1d\]: oh
pybc [16k\]: A2!
CLaser [9k\]: someone angry
taiji [1k\]: hahaha
PowRanger [?\]: haha
DerWitt [1d\]: cool move
daladim [1d\]: lol
hyunsu [2k\]: --"
OohAah [7d\]: very good move..
dragongod [4k\]: good
saolasin: that makes sense since admins never talk about the game =)
DerWitt [1d\]: ko?
TeeSushi [3d\]: you can put admins on ignore but you still hav to read what they write
codon [3k\]: p16 for w
nsysu [3d\]: d2 
BUM [7d\]: fine ko
LionelLee [6k\]: glue is required for us to STICK to game related comments
DerWitt [1d\]: c1 for ko
TeeSushi [3d\]: d2 
codon [3k\]: p16 very big
saolasin: so w can get something here
daladim [1d\]: d2 ko too
evanj [2d\]: d2 still ko
OohAah [7d\]: black cannot allow this to be ko
TeeSushi [3d\]: yes but d2 better ko i think
hikarumint [6k\]: good geam
evanj [2d\]: agreed
hikarumint [6k\]: game
pybc [16k\]: A2222222
pybc [16k\]: D2
hikarumint [6k\]: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
dsfsdfsf: just c4
Zara [6k\]: b taking his time
dsfsdfsf: 2 ez
dsfsdfsf: ^^
JoK [5k\]: I dont get the magic of this move.. can someone explain it to me?
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: maybe but its kinda a game deciding move
Fin2K [1k?\]: u will see
DerWitt [1d\]: w has more threats
OohAah [7d\]: with this move whites corner is alive in ko
hyunsu [2k\]: i cant see anything !! xD
OohAah [7d\]: hence..white wins this game
saolasin: 9d magic
fallen6 [4k\]: d2?
jhnc [1k\]: what is the sequence to get ko with d2?
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: everything white has is secure minus what ?
Zara [6k\]: hence bum was wrong :P
pybc [16k\]: see BUM? haha
evanj [2d\]: d2 e2 e1 d1 c1 a2
TeeSushi [3d\]: black maybe has 1 or 2 threats
diesel [1d\]: timesuji
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: g7 perhaps
Mikki62 [1k\]: e2???
Gratuit [1k\]: d2 e3 e1 d1 c1 a2 
CLaser [9k\]: kid angry
Altist [1k\]: p16 not big for b?
ledeiR [3d?\]: d2 e3 e1 d1 c1 a2 
dsfsdfsf: e1?
evanj [2d\]: eorry d2 e3
]
;B[dr]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[eq]WL[60]OW[5]C[jhnc [1k\]: instead of b1 I mean
]
;B[es]BL[60]OB[2]C[hikarumint [6k\]: e1
]
;W[ds]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[cs]BL[60]OB[2]C[evanj [2d\]: this sequence :D
]
;W[ar]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[as]BL[60]OB[2]C[OohAah [7d\]: k2 
saolasin: h10
AZUSA [3k\]: h10
daladim [1d\]: k2 good
]
;W[hj]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[hi]BL[60]OB[2]C[wwwww [9k\]: p16 seems really big
]
;W[bs]WL[60]OW[5]C[Elitios [16k\]: Is P16 working for white?
evanj [2d\]: not as big as this
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: only move i see for black is k8
DerWitt [1d\]: res
]
;B[lb]BL[60]OB[2]C[Zara [6k\]: B16 big enough?
]
;W[la]WL[60]OW[5]C[SR123 [6k\]: looks like the ko decides the game
]
;B[as]BL[60]OB[2]C[MrSandman [2k\]: b16 no threath
evanj [2d\]: unwinnable for b
evanj [2d\]: ko and therefore game
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: b16 leads himself into another white threat
AZUSA [3k\]: b16 yeah
saolasin: g11
dsfsdfsf: gg
Zara [6k\]: omg right
]
;W[fh]WL[60]OW[5]C[ofir271 [4k\]: b g17
gofreddy [4k\]: g11 continus
Zara [6k\]: b16 gote
SR123 [6k\]: ??
gofreddy [4k\]: better
]
;B[gi]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[bs]WL[60]OW[5]C[Thorvald [7k\]: k9 
saolasin: well g11 loses point but more threat
evanj [2d\]: b has no threats
]
;B[jk]BL[60]OB[2]C[ofir271 [4k\]: g17
Thorvald [7k\]: :)
hikarumint [6k\]: m 13
hikarumint [6k\]: M13
aChoai [2d\]: get
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: there was my move or close enough
]
;W[jl]WL[60]OW[5]C[hikarumint [6k\]:  M13
hikarumint [6k\]: M13
]
;B[as]BL[60]OB[2]C[evanj [2d\]: m13 is not a good threat
gofreddy [4k\]: b19
OohAah [7d\]: k2 
evanj [2d\]: and it won't get any better if you repeat it
Sandal [8k\]: D6?
yaboot [2d\]: k2
wwwww [9k\]: lol
pybc [16k\]: c17?
Ogronom [3k\]: p16
saolasin: b19 bad since b get a threat afterward there
kurizu [6k\]: p16
huggy [3k\]: c8?
gotetenuki [?\]: i can't believe how bloody the lower right was
MrZNF [1d\]: f12 feels early, better to keep that for later, since maybe you want to g11 and have more threats
]
;W[jr]WL[60]OW[5]C[MrZNF [1d\]: giving away 4 points is worth it to win this ko
dsfsdfsf: EAT!
hikarumint [6k\]: EAT
hikarumint [6k\]: 55+
]
;B[hp]BL[60]OB[2]C[Thorvald [7k\]: bigger
]
;W[bs]WL[60]OW[5]C[evanj [2d\]: k2 too good
hikarumint [6k\]:  E13
Thorvald [7k\]: ?
]
;B[bd]BL[60]OB[2]C[evanj [2d\]: b is out
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: hm?
gotetenuki [?\]: n15
SpenceR [4k\]: er
hikarumint [6k\]: E13 N14
asdfyxcv [2k\]: hm?
Zara [6k\]: :O
TeeSushi [3d\]: ah good
gofreddy [4k\]: nice
]
;W[cc]WL[60]OW[5]C[codon [3k\]: no
]
;B[gc]BL[60]OB[2]C[Hibarikyo [5k?\]: i guess he wants to sacrifice
SpenceR [4k\]: uses ko threats i guess
wwwww [9k\]: corner exchange?
Zara [6k\]: ha
]
;W[ds]WL[60]OW[5]C[LovroKlc [-\]: yup
hikarumint [6k\]: OH
hikarumint [6k\]: OH
hikarumint [6k\]: OH
hikarumint [6k\]: O
]
;B[ba]BL[60]OB[2]C[ledeiR [3d?\]: p16 
]
;W[od]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: b16 was threat
hikaru952 [-\]: ...
codon [3k\]: p16
evanj [2d\]: some admin please remotely disable hikarumint's enter key
DerWitt [1d\]: res
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: lol
OohAah [7d\]: black cannot win this ko now tho, since now 0 threats
wwwww [9k\]: finally p16
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: evan i dont think they can
waxstar [2d\]: b lost it
ManoNegra [7d?\]: not even ko.. w can just n15
hikarumint [6k\]: NO 
hikarumint [6k\]: KO
]
;B[kr]BL[60]OB[2]C[SaintCoeur [1k\]: resign
pybc [16k\]: what a bummer for BUM...
ledeiR [3d?\]: + if he loses it he loses the corner
Onmyoji [2d\]: seki
]
;W[pe]WL[60]OW[5]C[Sgarobo [6k\]: where?
ScorpianGo [6k\]: blacks leadin
ScorpianGo [6k\]: g
evanj [2d\]: q15 is nice
gotetenuki [?\]: um, b is getting thugged hard
]
;B[oc]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[nc]WL[60]OW[5]C[pybc [16k\]: white is so leading..
]
;B[pc]BL[60]OB[2]C[Hibarikyo [5k?\]: i dont think black is leading personally
OohAah [7d\]: s17 ?
evanj [2d\]: yeah
]
;W[rc]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[rd]BL[60]OB[2]C[AZUSA [3k\]: s18
Zara [6k\]: y
]
;W[rb]WL[60]OW[5]C[zeouf [1d\]: however, it's a strange game...
SR123 [6k\]: white trying to kill every thing
Gratuit [1k\]: not trying
Zara [6k\]: not trying, killing :Ü
codon [3k\]: w win
Zara [6k\]: :P
evanj [2d\]: not playing s17 in that shape would be a crime against nature
]
;B[nb]BL[60]OB[2]C[OohAah [7d\]: black might re lose b14 
]
;W[oa]WL[60]OW[5]C[LovroKlc [-\]: white played 5-5s. thats strange enough
]
;B[qa]BL[60]OB[2]C[SR123 [6k\]: yes, actually killing every thing 
]
;W[nc]WL[60]OW[5]C[wwwww [9k\]: should r19 first?
]
;B[ra]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[sd]WL[60]OW[5]C[evanj [2d\]: hah
]
;B[se]BL[60]OB[2]C[evanj [2d\]: t18
dsfsdfsf: k.o
hikaru952 [-\]: seki
zum [?\]: t14
gotetenuki [?\]: this is becoming agoniing
]
;W[sf]WL[60]OW[5]C[Hibarikyo [5k?\]: i guess t14
LionelLee [6k\]: seki?
evanj [2d\]: oh yes, t14 better
]
;B[qd]BL[60]OB[2]C[evanj [2d\]: t17 or t18
DerWitt [1d\]: seki
evanj [2d\]: w's choice
daladim [1d\]: ko
hikarumint [6k\]: SEKI
MrZNF [1d\]: t17
]
;W[sb]WL[60]OW[5]C[AZUSA [3k\]: bouble ko?
]
;B[nb]BL[60]OB[2]C[evanj [2d\]: boooo
]
;W[me]WL[60]OW[5]C[MrZNF [1d\]: noooo, now black takes first
MrZNF [1d\]: could t17 right?
hikarumint [6k\]: -*-
hikarumint [6k\]: BLACK DEAT
evanj [2d\]: t17 forces ko to kill, this allows seki
Mikki62 [1k\]: omg
Onmyoji [2d\]: kghin totally pwnd
saolasin: over
]
;B[bi]BL[60]OB[2]C[daladim [1d\]: kghin dommed
dsfsdfsf: w wins
Tien [6d\]: Man nen koo
]
;W[fq]WL[60]OW[5]C[Zara [6k\]: boooom B11
]
;B[gr]BL[60]OB[2]C[daladim [1d\]: doomed*
CLaser [9k\]: mannenko ?
]
;W[cp]WL[60]OW[5]C[evanj [2d\]: poor kghin, another setback on the road to 9d
evanj [2d\]: i know what that's like
Zara [6k\]: :D
Mikki62 [1k\]: great teaching
Onmyoji [2d\]: what is it like?
huggy [3k\]: me too ;)
]
;B[mr]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[md]WL[60]OW[5]C[zum [?\]: poor kg?? how about my setbacks?
hikarumint [6k\]: I LIKE
ajimonkeh [1k?\]: playing go backwards is more fun
khgin: [8d\]: I cannot find my resign button
tuna [4k\]: please resign move?
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: thats more of the give up move
evanj [2d\]: hahaha nice one
DerWitt [1d\]: :)
]
;B[sc]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[nc]WL[60]OW[5]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: lol
Tien [6d\]: Heh, one game is definitely not a setback to anything
]
;B[sd]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[af]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ab]BL[60]OB[2]C[lapindix [7k\]: like he can read more than 10 moves in advance ... meaning really "read" and not only figuring out shapes
]
;W[cn]WL[60]OW[5]C[dsfsdfsf: s 19 dead?
hyunsu [2k\]: w+25?
lapindix [7k\]: talking about W
evanj [2d\]: no, seki
saolasin: seki
bolamata [4k\]: seki
evanj [2d\]: seki
Onmyoji [2d\]: seki
hikarumint [6k\]: black deat
Zara [6k\]: seki
MrZNF [1d\]: seki
hikarumint [6k\]: no seki
Onmyoji [2d\]: seki
MrZNF [1d\]: seki
azura [8k\]: seki
evanj [2d\]: seki
dsfsdfsf: thx
hyunsu [2k\]: lol
dhall: seki
MrZNF [1d\]: seki
Onmyoji [2d\]: seki
Zara [6k\]: seki
MrZNF [1d\]: seki
severin [1k\]: seki
wwwww [9k\]: seki
Onmyoji [2d\]: seki
]
;B[cl]BL[60]OB[2]C[DoubleLion [1k\]: seki
sixsix [-\]: seki?
MrZNF [1d\]: seki
kvazistatt [6k\]: seki
evanj [2d\]: seki
it [?\]: Stopo that please
dsfsdfsf: omg lol
ManoNegra [7d?\]: seki
Onmyoji [2d\]: seki
taiji [1k\]: seki
]
;W[ao]WL[60]OW[5]C[matt383 [8k\]: seki
Ph1xi3 [-\]: How many sekis are needed to change the light bulb?
PowRanger [?\]: seki
]
;B[bm]BL[60]OB[2]C[Asaliuru [7k\]: seki
hyunsu [2k\]: stop !!
dsfsdfsf: ban all pls
Zara [6k\]: stopo
]
;W[en]WL[60]OW[5]C[hikarumint [6k\]: seki
hikarumint [6k\]: 55+
dsfsdfsf: :D
khgin: [8d\]: seki it is
matt383 [8k\]: hands up
taiji [1k\]: ...discussing game
matt383 [8k\]: seki
hyunsu [2k\]: O_o
Onmyoji [2d\]: ko
]
;B[eo]BL[60]OB[2]C[bolamata [4k\]: wth
saolasin: voting about the game
Zara [6k\]: khgin: [8d\]: seki it is :D:D:D
Lacrimosa [2d?\]: bad discussion
hyunsu [2k\]: lol
]
;W[sp]WL[60]OW[5]C[bolamata [4k\]: how did he know lol
Gay [5d\]: upper right is seki?
MrZNF [1d\]: that's not kghin
hikarumint [6k\]: no seki
]
;B[sl]BL[60]OB[2]C[Encor [6k\]: next one who sais seki will be crucified
]
;W[fn]WL[60]OW[5]C[hyunsu [2k\]: lol
]
;B[dm]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[em]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[el]BL[60]OB[2]C[bolamata [4k\]: oh nvm
hikarumint [6k\]: right no seki
azura [8k\]: both alive
]
;W[dn]WL[60]OW[5]C[MrZNF [1d\]: saki
]
;B[ri]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[qi]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[sj]BL[60]OB[2]C[CptHook [7k\]: hukar give back 6k..
azura [8k\]: ron!!
]
;W[rh]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[si]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[mk]WL[60]OW[5]C[matt383 [8k\]: sake, no seki
Mikki62 [1k\]: why no seki?
Farouche [3d\]: Too bad I missed that game
MrZNF [1d\]: ^ crucify him!
]
;B[fs]BL[60]OB[2]C[quicksand [1d\]: did this kibitz already use up one admin?
]
;W[bh]WL[60]OW[5]C[Roto [6k\]: lol
Mikki62 [1k\]: :)
KillooQ [3k\]: good game
kghin [8d\]: hx
Zara [6k\]: cool game
CLaser [9k\]: good admin
kghin [8d\]: thx
KoReNJe [3d\]: haha
KoReNJe [3d\]: poor kghin
Mikki62 [1k\]: rematch
KoReNJe [3d\]: so little territory
saolasin: REMATCH
hikarumint [6k\]: no seki
hikarumint [6k\]:  as
hikarumint [6k\]: right noseki
KoReNJe [3d\]: this was overkill
DontNoGood: what about top right corner?
RoseDuke [9d\]: :) any one keen to learn 5-5 openning?
khgin: [8d\]: now i am pissed! re-match!
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: lol
Mikki62 [1k\]: :)
KoReNJe [3d\]: haha
taiji [1k\]: ^0^
Mikki62 [1k\]: yeah
saolasin: ban the imposter
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: khgin your now my fav 8 dan
taiji [1k\]: go kghin!!!
KoReNJe [3d\]: poooooor little guy
leachy [7k\]: ha a lesson offering ;)
kghin [8d\]: .
asdfyxcv [2k\]: this kibitz made my day
hyunsu [2k\]: imposter !! LOL
KoReNJe [3d\]: when I was 5kyu playing vs 9d... the game went like this :p
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: hmm
PowRanger [?\]: :D
Gay [5d\]: Korenje is 5kyu?
Gay [5d\]: LOL
saolasin: haha u still 5k
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: then you werent 5 kyu then
Gay [5d\]: hahaha
Asaliuru [7k\]: noseki is some kind of joseki ?
KoReNJe [3d\]: jelaous noobs
Gay [5d\]: korenje is 5kyu
hyunsu [2k\]: lol
DontNoGood: korenje too weak
saolasin: haha funny
Zara [6k\]: kghin ure the best
KoReNJe [3d\]: gotta go watch duke nukem
saolasin: Korenje... gone with shame
Hibarikyo [5k?\]: ill get rid of this question mark then kabitz again
Mikki62 [1k\]: sure we want to learn 5/5
Mikki62 [1k\]: who doesnt?
Mikki62 [1k\]: hands up
lapindix [7k\]: lag?
lesid [3k\]: roseduke left, mikki
Mikki62 [1k\]: :(
KoReNJe [3d\]: haha
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