(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[4500]OT[10/300 Canadian]
PW[TaranuC]PB[csaba]WR[5p]BR[7d]DT[2010-01-28]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[TaranuC [5p\]: hi
csaba [7d\]: so, have a good game!
TaranuC [5p\]: have a nice game
DexMorgan [8d\]: Kibitz fest :)
miao [5d\]: gooo white
]RE[B+9.50]
;B[pd]BL[4460.339]C[Javaness [-\]: what if i order total silence?
miao [5d\]: :)
]
;W[dc]WL[4496.626]C[lamalama: you cannot get one
dragonslay [-\]: ouch that would suck!
lamalama: :))
Novalys [1k\]: You do that java, and i never give you hazelnuts anymore >_<
DexMorgan [8d\]: Please, lets try to keep the comments about the game or players as much as we can
miao [5d\]: then we do it like in digimon th movie and spam you in private chat till your comuter can not take it anmore
lamalama: dex, dex, this is killing me:))))
miao [5d\]: :)
]
;B[dq]BL[4406.436]C[waffle [6k\]: wow
blueshoe [3k\]: is this some special game?
shaula [2k\]: I bet we will have at least 20 "are these guys pro?" during the game
quup [1d\]: very special
]
;W[pp]WL[4475.584]C[miao [5d\]: wow
polat [2k\]: wow 75min.
Razeeman [2k\]: are these guys pro?
Siljan [?\]: I like total silence - Martin (EGF)
]
;B[ce]BL[4396.623]C[quup [1d\]: nice opening, gonna be some fireworks at this rate
Mathematic [4k\]: taranu is extremely strong for a white man
waffle [6k\]: i bet we'll have atleast 50
Nolo [2d\]: e16 
BonoVox [4k\]: @all TaranuC is a pro, csaba high amateur dan
]
;W[ed]WL[4460.678]C[Nolo [2d\]: yippeee
miao [5d\]: and ex insei
Novalys [1k\]: go for C5
Nolo [2d\]: o3 now
waffle [6k\]: now this is interesting :P
glupan [1d?\]: miao you talked about insei as an title
DexMorgan [8d\]: Csaba is the kind of player that would like to play N17 now
waffle [6k\]: e15
shaula [2k\]: I would C11
Nolo [2d\]: n17 so dull
]
;B[nq]BL[4327.984]C[lamalama: is white sai?
Nolo [2d\]: heh i knew
waffle [6k\]: w is only 5p
Mathematic [4k\]: N17??
]
;W[do]WL[4446.273]C[NoirDeRage [4d\]: "n
NoirDeRage [4d\]: "only" ?
dragonslay [-\]: o3 great move
waffle [6k\]: sai is like....
waffle [6k\]: 100d.
NoirDeRage [4d\]: sai is fiction
waffle [6k\]: *100p
nonochan [6d\]: O3 is not so good according to the fuseki theory
miao [5d\]: so sai give me 95 hc
Nolo [2d\]: e5 and then later c11 
miao [5d\]: :D
A003 [3k\]: what is the reward on this game?
waffle [6k\]: yesh :o
Nolo [2d\]: why not nono
batmaneu [12k\]: who must be the best, 5p or 7d?
miao [5d\]: why nano
miao [5d\]: :D
beta5 [8k?\]: imortality
dsvsv: winner gets to play dinerstein
miao [5d\]: please teach us
]
;B[cm]BL[4252.301]C[Nolo [2d\]: most intuitive to me
glupan [1d?\]: winner gets playstation
nonochan [6d\]: The first who approaches in opposing corners (d17 d3) will have the advantage
NoirDeRage [4d\]: 5p is better than 7d kgs for sure
]
;W[en]WL[4419.537]C[captnapalm [1k\]: man this opening is complicated
beta5 [8k?\]: how so?
Novalys [1k\]: there is much worse :)
batmaneu [12k\]: thx
Nolo [2d\]: c15 was an approach already it changes everything
waffle [6k\]: w has an interesting playstyle
DexMorgan [8d\]: E6 , so old fashioned
waffle [6k\]: or wants to try a different opening
nonochan [6d\]: B approached, but when W defended with E16, B played tenuki - that is inconsistent.
miao [5d\]: waffle you can tell?
waffle [6k\]: well this sequence seems ancient o.O
CardiffGo [4k\]: Old fashioned meaning less effective?
Novalys [1k\]: wbk
kostuek [-\]: b a bit low for me
Novalys [1k\]: it's quite common to make a shimari after E16
waffle [6k\]: back from where territory oriented was considered better than influence
Novalys [1k\]: it's too painful to let w approach the corner
miao [5d\]: b shape not easy
Nolo [2d\]: e6 might lead to b having too low left side
polat [2k\]: D10?
nonochan [6d\]: E16 in favor again in Japan
lolux [18k\]: D 14
miao [5d\]: yes nolo
DexMorgan [8d\]: so it is in korea, nonochan
ndn [2k\]: Lee Hajin 3p said in her review of Korean insei who beat Lee Changho that territorial style is back
waffle [6k\]: territory is back?
nonochan [6d\]: ok, not soooo old-fashion anymore.
waffle [6k\]: coooool.
]
;B[gq]BL[4110.24]C[DexMorgan [8d\]: But only as white it appears in fuseki
evanj [2d\]: too bad the idea of influence-based scoring never caught on
waffle [6k\]: b seems to work around it
Novalys [1k\]: it's been a long time that territorial style is back
]
;W[dl]WL[4401.908]C[Mathematic [4k\]: e16 good enough for shusaku
Nolo [2d\]: nono tenuki after e16 very standard
waffle [6k\]: something tells me w is going for center
nonochan [6d\]: Yes, but there was no komi then
Novalys [1k\]: tenuki is, but you often defend the open corner nolo
polat [2k\]: C9
DexMorgan [8d\]: C4 now ?
quup [1d\]: b is low
evanj [2d\]: that's how you avoid smoke inhalation
evanj [2d\]: think about it
miao [5d\]: c4 complicated shape with g4?
Mathematic [4k\]: ...
quup [1d\]: c4 c8 maybe?
beta5 [8k?\]: q10?
]
;B[ck]BL[4052.364]C[satuk [1d\]: b is low, w is s low
polat [2k\]: yeah
waffle [6k\]: true that.
miao [5d\]: w is high
DexMorgan [8d\]: with G3 you mean, miao ?
Nolo [2d\]: if c4 c15 is too lonely
miao [5d\]: yes
nonochan [6d\]: I don't like the location of o3 now
miao [5d\]: seems much aji
waffle [6k\]: so at this point w is just attacking and seeing how it's gonnna turnout
lolux [18k\]: c 12
DexMorgan [8d\]: theres some aji, but its pretty standard
Nolo [2d\]: o3 should be the other side
waffle [6k\]: gosh the spacebar on this keyboard is horrible T_T
DexMorgan [8d\]: i think in this position it works like a yosumi
DexMorgan [8d\]: c4 c5 d10 c8 b10  black is happy
miao [5d\]: what is a yosumi
Archaic [1d\]: first time u see a pro play on kgs but i'll bet on tygem they play all da time
shindon [-\]: is this for the Euro fujustu cup ?
miao [5d\]: i know what you mean
DexMorgan [8d\]: c4 c8 c12 
beta5 [8k?\]: huh where is the aji coming from. All stones are alive for the moment
miao [5d\]: but i don´t like it
miao [5d\]: ^^
Maroncsan [?\]: shindon, yep
sameasyou [2d\]: yes shindon
DexMorgan [8d\]: you like game more, miao ?
]
;W[cq]WL[4303.833]C[miao [5d\]: no
waffle [6k\]: here comes the war :o
miao [5d\]: they are too fast
miao [5d\]: ^^
adoreme [-\]: lets see it :)
DexMorgan [8d\]: this situation is locally textbook bad for black
slowbrain [-\]: hmm
waffle [6k\]: locally.
DexMorgan [8d\]: and globally..maybe even worse ^^ 
waffle [6k\]: w seems strong
satuk [1d\]: csaba wants to finish this game soon then
polat [2k\]: C8?
Nolo [2d\]: e6 was a good move
kostuek [-\]: go b^^
BonoVox [4k\]: what textbook?
MPU [6k\]: whi is white
nonochan [6d\]: scaba is not so good at the fuseki, I think
MPU [6k\]: who?
quup [1d\]: look in his info
MPU [6k\]: ok
adoreme [-\]: e6 is a standard play 
lolux [18k\]: d7 ?
nonochan [6d\]: csaba, I mean
MavsWorld [5k?\]: Just read his name bar the c part
Lantis [4k\]: if its not good where should b have played some other move?
waffle [6k\]: scaba.... does anyone have that name?
quup [1d\]: fred flintstone maybe
slowbrain [-\]: lol
Shirou [22k\]: csaba not scaba you nutcrack
Siljan [?\]: Csaba Mero
Deckard [?\]: is taranu a playing pro or a honoray pro ??
waffle [6k\]: dabba doo?
MavsWorld [5k?\]: Playing
Onmyoji [3d?\]: hi
MavsWorld [5k?\]: Catalin Taranu
Nolo [2d\]: is there am alternative to c2 now?
miao [5d\]: he is real
Wawl [3d?\]: pro with drinking problems
miao [5d\]: not anymore
quup [1d\]: he is 5p in japan
Wawl [3d?\]: oh
Onmyoji [3d?\]: i count b+9.5
waffle [6k\]: i think b has to respond one way or another
miao [5d\]: ^^
Zara [9k\]: xD
Deckard [?\]: he particiaptes active in pro tournaments ?
DexMorgan [8d\]: good question Nolo
macisajt [?\]: come on, focus on the game
macisajt [?\]: :)
quup [1d\]: c4 doesnt look good at all
miao [5d\]: not anymore
evanj [2d\]: no, I have a better idea: let's argue about honorary pro ranks
Javaness [-\]: listen to macisajt senior admin
miao [5d\]: but he did
sameasyou [2d\]: d9
adoreme [-\]: onmoyji you're good finding territory ^^
quup [1d\]: tenuki is always an option
miao [5d\]: when i lived in japan
]
;B[dk]BL[3845.009]C[Onmyoji [3d?\]: yes
sameasyou [2d\]: I rule
miao [5d\]: he cam till 4th round
IlanKeshet [7k\]: sweet!!!
miao [5d\]: or 3th
miao [5d\]: not sure anymore
IlanKeshet [7k\]: gl taranu...
Nolo [2d\]: hmm true
GanjiNam [21k\]: woah chat room...
Nolo [2d\]: d2 doesnt work so well
IlanKeshet [7k\]: no chance for casaba, taranu too strong ;p
GanjiNam [21k\]: LOL 5p
Trivia [2k\]: is this Romanian championship?
Javaness [-\]: D9 interesting looking
MilanMilan [9d\]: c2 is neccessary
go4an [8k\]: is it really captain taranu?
WangFei [-\]: gg Pete
Javaness [-\]: no it is a European Fujitsu Cup qualifier
go4an [8k\]: catalin*
nonochan [6d\]: Oh, llanKeshet, you have such strong opinions.
Trivia [2k\]: oh czaba is Hungarian actually
IlanKeshet [7k\]: im a fan of taranu ;p
dsvsv: hungary vs romania, yay :)
adoreme [-\]: just d2 now maybe
Javaness [-\]: I like both players, but I back white in this game
DexMorgan [8d\]: if d2, black will C4
quup [1d\]: e9
polat [2k\]: E3 is nice for w
MilanMilan [9d\]: how many members take part in
kostuek [-\]: d14
nonochan [6d\]: I like Taranu's current style 
slowbrain [-\]: 4
Novalys [1k\]: no tenuki here, w plays in the corner
IlanKeshet [7k\]: milan have u played taranu before? / score
DexMorgan [8d\]: only 4, Shi fu MilanMilan :)
Trivia [2k\]: what's his current style?
sameasyou [2d\]: Dinerstein, Pop, Taranu and Mero
slowbrain [-\]: yes
]
;W[eq]WL[4143.313]C[DexMorgan [8d\]: Breakfast, solaris, TaranuC, csaba
MilanMilan [9d\]: Top 4_
taiji [1k\]: Catalin is a beast
MilanMilan [9d\]: okay
Nolo [2d\]: r6
dsvsv: catalin very good looking, but i think breakfast better in go
sameasyou [2d\]: Dinerstein is not a pussycat also
CardiffGo [4k\]: Strange shape
Juice [6k\]: what is this?
slowbrain [-\]: go?
evanj [2d\]: othello
sameasyou [2d\]: Catalin beat Dinerstein diring the last european tournament
quup [1d\]: this is spartaaa
polat [2k\]: k3 now
sameasyou [2d\]: during the*
MilanMilan [9d\]: They are quite close
Onmyoji [3d?\]: who is more handsome, catalin or breakfast?
dsvsv: lol
nonochan [6d\]: Catalin
slowbrain [-\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: catalin for sure
StefanRadu [1d\]: catalin. 
StefanRadu [1d\]: hehe
molego [3k\]: k3 too low?
supercow [-\]: no competition
quup [1d\]: pics
Javaness [-\]: Csaba's wife will kill you
sameasyou [2d\]: all the girls answered
Paradize [1k\]: captain is the best
dsvsv: no brainer
Trivia [2k\]: czaba is lookin' good
lolux [18k\]: d7
IlanKeshet [7k\]: czaba is almost bald though
IlanKeshet [7k\]: :D
Trivia [2k\]: /ironic
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: i liked taranu game reviews he did thats on utube
Nolo [2d\]: r6 best imo
nonochan [6d\]: When he was around 18, I thought Catalin was too handsome to be a serious go player.
Javaness [-\]: how about E15 now
dsvsv: can tsaranu make a living from Go, or does he have a regular job?
Trivia [2k\]: K4
nonochan [6d\]: Csaba is charming
Losing [1k\]: oh god! Catalin vs Csaba ... That's awesome! I used to watch those both playing drunken go :p
DL2 [3k\]: why not d4 ?
kostuek [-\]: c5?
miao [5d\]: lol
dsvsv: i agree nono
DexMorgan [8d\]: d4 classical bad shape
evanj [2d\]: so am I
IlanKeshet [7k\]: explain dex?
evanj [2d\]: (charming, not bad shape)
nonochan [6d\]: head of 2 stones
dsvsv: lol evan
DexMorgan [8d\]: proverb = dont hit with the head of 2 stones
andg99 [?\]: catalin studied math before go
Mathematic [4k\]: milanmilan, could you beat these guys :D
evanj [2d\]: d4 e4, and it's like w has had an ideal attack on those two black stones, but black would be the one who sought it out
]
;B[dp]BL[3619.384]C[Trivia [2k\]: do not hit your head against two stones?
evanj [2d\]: !!!
DL2 [3k\]: ))
dsvsv: haha
kostuek [-\]: hehe
Nolo [2d\]: uhhh
evanj [2d\]: oh snap
IlanKeshet [7k\]: lol
supercow [-\]: teehee
IlanKeshet [7k\]: wronnnngg
Onmyoji [3d?\]: lol
sameasyou [2d\]: ugly
Novalys [1k\]: e4 
GanjiNam [21k\]: how old is csaba?
evanj [2d\]: 92
Cookiex [-\]: whas this?
DL2 [3k\]: let's play, dex Morgan
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 92>?!
evanj [2d\]: hahaha
Trivia [2k\]: mutual ugliness
DL2 [3k\]: i can give you 2 handi
evanj [2d\]: yes, that picture was taken 70 years ago
dsvsv: cheeky =)
]
;W[ep]WL[4100.085]C[grumPgreeD [2d?\]: its not mutual
polat [2k\]: E4 - C4 - C5
Zara [9k\]: oow com on dl2 xP
Cookiex [-\]: whats this?
]
;B[cp]BL[3611.652]
;W[dr]WL[4098.974]C[Juice [6k\]: what sort of game is this? just for fun?
polat [2k\]: O _ o
SavagePlay [7k\]: ok...
dsvsv: this is ROMANIA
IlanKeshet [7k\]: this is tournament game
miao [5d\]: this is a game of minds
Trivia [2k\]: Fujitsu qualifier
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: isnt this the qualifier 
go1d [5d\]: it lokks very good for black
CardiffGo [4k\]: White building wall to cut lower side 
MilanMilan [9d\]: who is Dexmorgen
SavagePlay [7k\]: c2?
SavagePlay [7k\]: then c5?
DexMorgan [8d\]: Danigabi :)
taiji [1k\]: who is MilanMilan?!?
Javaness [-\]: This is a qualifier for the European Fujitsu Cup representative
Zara [9k\]: really? oh cool
GanjiNam [21k\]: taranu is pro or he has other regular job?
supercow [-\]: tartaric?
MilanMilan [9d\]: okay
nonochan [6d\]: Dex, what about (after E3) play d2 e2 d4 e4 c4 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: no pro
taiji [1k\]: must be pro
IlanKeshet [7k\]: taranu is pro for sure ;p
sameasyou [2d\]: dex morgan is a criminal
dsvsv: he is pro, but does he have a regular job?
]
;B[cr]BL[3546.803]
;W[bq]WL[4096.51]C[polat [2k\]: -- I -- '
Javaness [-\]: Taranu is a professional Go player, Japanese 5p
NoTime [5k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i think he is full time pro
IlanKeshet [7k\]: like guo juan
IlanKeshet [7k\]: if ur 5p.... u gotta be full time almost
supercow [-\]: he doesn't make hi money playing in Japanese tournaments though
MilanMilan [9d\]: what did w do
GanjiNam [21k\]: i was asking part time or like full time lol..but i guess hes full time..
Trivia [2k\]: no they're asking how does he apy the bills
MilanMilan [9d\]: it's insane
DexMorgan [8d\]: w totally misreading this
miao [5d\]: i don´t get this
SavagePlay [7k\]: milan
SavagePlay [7k\]: how come?
Athanor [-\]: he aims b5
miao [5d\]: XD
Javaness [-\]: Did white hallucinate?
Nolo [2d\]: e2  eh?
Kirka [4d\]: 5 p dont missread
polat [2k\]: E2????
taiji [1k\]: is it a stone pillar tesuji?
dsvsv: milan, how?
SavagePlay [7k\]: i want to hear what can happen later
MilanMilan [9d\]: b3...
Trivia [2k\]: W seals corner in sente
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: this looks ok for w
DexMorgan [8d\]: b3 is a blunder for sure
dsvsv: what next?
MilanMilan [9d\]: I can't understand anyway
DexMorgan [8d\]: but maybe the problem also came from before
Warfreak2 [5d\]: :D
Zara [9k\]: for sure?? hmm
sabin [5k\]: i love this shit!
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if milanmilan doesn't get it then it doesn't work
IlanKeshet [7k\]: funny how everyone except 8d and 9d say its ok
DexMorgan [8d\]: i think w could play C4 instead of E4, and play the sequeeze
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ill trust them ;p
Mercure [3k\]: ...
Trivia [2k\]: is this game online? or on a goban?
minismurf [-\]: well, if the 9d said it... :)
Mathematic [4k\]: it's a very a slow game for a misread
nonochan [6d\]: e2 
SavagePlay [7k\]: what?
Athanor [-\]: looks like working to me
Juice [6k\]: 2p, u mean?
kostuek [-\]: e2 f2 d1 j3 :p
DexMorgan [8d\]: black e2, im sure white wants to d1
NoTime [5k\]: who is 8d?
JENNNY [?\]: C5!
MilanMilan [9d\]: Carl Johan_
]
;B[co]BL[3420.281]
;W[br]WL[4092.391]C[nonochan [6d\]: no....
]
;B[er]BL[3417.514]
;W[cs]WL[4091.531]
;B[fr]BL[3416.123]C[minismurf [-\]: yes Milan
DonJose [15k?\]: he did
MilanMilan [9d\]: nice to meet you
flead [2k\]: this can't be a good outcome for w?
nonochan [6d\]: Even this seems reasonable for B
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: well this looks better for b than atary at e2
Zara [9k\]: atary
MilanMilan [9d\]: c4 strange as well
Trivia [2k\]: avatary
polat [2k\]: e4group is weak now
Onmyoji [3d?\]: why did w do this
ndn [2k\]: w shape is strange
IlanKeshet [7k\]: losing his 5p touch
JENNNY [?\]: I bet black is going to win this game!
minismurf [-\]: you too, even if we have met before ;)
zeouf [1d\]: not so weak (C6)
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: w hoped b eat d2 i guess
Hellhuman [2k\]: who is carl johan :?
kostuek [-\]: go b!^^
DonJose [15k?\]: G4?
CardiffGo [4k\]: Getting disconected seems soooo bad
SavagePlay [7k\]: so what will white play to get those 5 piece outside safe?
dsvsv: father of scarlet johanssen
supercow [-\]: cjr
Trivia [2k\]: he sacs them!!!
CardiffGo [4k\]: D6 is sente at least
]
;W[ek]WL[3988.205]C[taiji [1k\]: seems not great for w
dsvsv: seems tragic for white
SavagePlay [7k\]: not really
IlanKeshet [7k\]: umm
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 1k vs 7k
SavagePlay [7k\]: he's planning something...
dsvsv: so is csaba
IlanKeshet [7k\]: lol
dresu [-\]: yes, great idea, w used his stones to get 4 points in the corner, now he can sacrifice them
seikenguy [4k\]: Catalin's a good player) He's always planning something)
GanjiNam [21k\]: catalin = csaba?
dsvsv: no
Zara [9k\]: yes
Onmyoji [3d?\]: yes
DonJose [15k?\]: cruz
ndn [2k\]: lol
supercow [-\]: anyone know who won in the first game?
evanj [2d\]: yes
Onmyoji [3d?\]: no
IlanKeshet [7k\]: does that ladder even work for w?
Zara [9k\]: no
dsvsv: supercow, fitst game by diner
ndn [2k\]: supercown: dinerstein won vs pop
Zara [9k\]: yes
emptyset [2k\]: w seemed better befor taking the corner
martin3141 [1k\]: I wonder if w is still aiming at invading the lower side, otherwise this overal maneuver seems very unreasonable
supercow [-\]: thanks!
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ladder doesn't work for w
GoShinobi [-\]: go catalin ?
GoShinobi [-\]: !!!!!
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: what ladder
SavagePlay [7k\]: e10
IlanKeshet [7k\]: e8 cut
Losing [1k\]: Csaba good player too, saw him beat some pros, including Catalin :p
SavagePlay [7k\]: i think
JoK [5k\]: can i say a p-grade is about 2 stones stronger than a d-grade? e.g. is 7d=5p or 3d=1p?
SavagePlay [7k\]: can't
Athanor [-\]: no ladder
IlanKeshet [7k\]: c8 cut = no ladder
Athanor [-\]: e8 f8 e7 d7 f7 c8 
SavagePlay [7k\]: ladder isn't going to work
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: there is no ladder that matters
Onmyoji [3d?\]: looks like a ko
Juice [6k\]: w spent 8,5 min on these moves
emptyset [2k\]: i really didnt understand w strategy
DexMorgan [8d\]: w blundered
Zara [9k\]: no seki this time, onmyoji?
Onmyoji [3d?\]: not yet
]
;B[ej]BL[3270.094]C[Hellhuman [2k\]: hmm
DexMorgan [8d\]: no need to obsess about it
Hellhuman [2k\]: ko
Zara [9k\]: ok
]
;W[cl]WL[3980.633]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: :D
Paradize [1k\]: lol
]
;B[bl]BL[3266.79]C[basics [6k\]: 1p = about 8d+
dsvsv: d4 "head of 2 stones" wasn't so bad after all
]
;W[el]WL[3963.696]C[daladim [1d\]: 1p korea = 9d
andg99 [?\]: 5p happens to beat 9p, but 7 dan never
Warfreak2 [5d\]: aguilar beat 9ps
Mercure [3k\]: b10 ?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: no
SavagePlay [7k\]: now black's turn to take territory
ndn [2k\]: there is some video lecture on youtube where catalin admits he often looses sight of strategy because he gets caught up in tactics
IlanKeshet [7k\]: aguilar beat (singular) 9p
DexMorgan [8d\]: omg, take the same repeated rank discussion to senseis library , please
Losing [1k\]: andg99, aguilar beat 2 9p in a row
Hellhuman [2k\]: d11
Warfreak2 [5d\]: he beat two in a row
IlanKeshet [7k\]: really
martin3141 [1k\]: b9
Warfreak2 [5d\]: yeah
evanj [2d\]: no, dexmorgan, we're going to resolve it this time, for real!
Warfreak2 [5d\]: awesome eh?
CardiffGo [4k\]: b9 ie benign
catsoldier [8k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: handicap?
Losing [1k\]: even
Hellhuman [2k\]: 0
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude, instead of b9, b7 will be better
IlanKeshet [7k\]: wow
apagis [3d\]: lol evanj
Zara [9k\]: what
IlanKeshet [7k\]: komi?
Losing [1k\]: regular komi
CardiffGo [4k\]: D6?
norgkost [6k\]: dude you're 7k in a pro game, shut up please
]
;B[bj]BL[3197.612]C[power [3k\]: лщьш!
]
;W[fj]WL[3955.913]C[power [3k\]: lol
norgkost [6k\]: so goes for other
GanjiNam [21k\]: norgkost lol
SavagePlay [7k\]: i don't care about u norgkost
DexMorgan [8d\]: w now has some sort of ko at C6
IlanKeshet [7k\]: lol your 6k 
NoTime [5k\]: lol
DexMorgan [8d\]: not impossible to fight in cas eof emergency
norgkost [6k\]: yeah, that's why i'm silent
norgkost [6k\]: let dan speak
evanj [2d\]: in case of emergency start ko
NoTime [5k\]: you ara right norg
HisokaH [3d\]: focus on the game
]
;B[ei]BL[3168.936]C[evanj [2d\]: everyone be quiet and let me talk
]
;W[jq]WL[3952.455]C[Kirka [4d\]: k3
dsvsv: ok
SavagePlay [7k\]: :D
Mathematic [4k\]: w gonna try something against g3
Onmyoji [3d?\]: lol
NoTime [5k\]: doitsumo koitsumo
Kirka [4d\]: :p
Athanor [-\]: hisokah admin? : )
Mathematic [4k\]: too late :D
NoTime [5k\]: stfu
martin3141 [1k\]: I think there's no ko anymore since b played b10
Pinguschaf [5d?\]: is this some special game?
Nefeste [6k\]: j3 too close?..
IlanKeshet [7k\]: woooh.. watch the language please..
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: so why does b play b10 when it leaves aji at c6?
Kirka [4d\]: j3 leaves l3 
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: cant he fix more efficiently
SavagePlay [7k\]: ignore us when we talk if u don't want to see
Hellhuman [2k\]: its fujitsu preeliminary @pingu
]
;B[ho]BL[3135.645]C[Pinguschaf [5d?\]: wow oO
]
;W[jo]WL[3944.701]C[Nefeste [6k\]: oh thx Kirka
Pinguschaf [5d?\]: they do this through internet from now on?
Maroncsan [?\]: well at least now
evanj [2d\]: hmm... is k3 wise?
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: k3 is indicated
Kirka [4d\]: indeed it is :d
SavagePlay [7k\]: black escape
Hellhuman [2k\]: looks like, yesterday dienerchstein beat pop
ndn [2k\]: h8?
GoShinobi [-\]: winner plays against dinerchtein 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: k3 seems like his e6 group is ging to get hurt
dsvsv: yeah dinner crushed pop
Onmyoji [3d?\]: when
Onmyoji [3d?\]: is final
SavagePlay [7k\]: h8 won't work, too far
seikenguy [-\]: Well he IS a pro =P
Hellhuman [2k\]: crsuhed is something else..
dsvsv: final undecided yet
basics [6k\]: strong amateur and pro difference is consistency of winning -- similar level on any given day
norgkost [6k\]: *facepalm*
lein [1k\]: is csaba a pro?
]
;B[hm]BL[3077.56]C[grumPgreeD [2d?\]: w must show fighting spirit and that requires k3
sabin [5k\]: will the game with dinerchtein also be online?
SavagePlay [7k\]: an insei
Hellhuman [2k\]: csaba egf 6d
lolux [18k\]: o5
Maroncsan [?\]: yep
tinca [-\]: has been
Trivia [2k\]: hey where's breakfast? i thought he would watch
IlanKeshet [7k\]: poor catalin... diasater 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: off his game it seems
Nolo [2d\]: h9 
polat [2k\]: G9
SavagePlay [7k\]: insei = student of Japanese Go Institute
lein [1k\]: thx
Juice [6k\]: or korean
]
;W[gk]WL[3900.532]C[evanj [2d\]: everyone so quick with the death sentence
Nefeste [6k\]: kakusei )
IlanKeshet [7k\]: g9 more solid then h9 i think
martin3141 [1k\]: o5 and fight!!
seikenguy [-\]: That's cause 7ks are so good nowadays.
Hellhuman [2k\]: see non living stone of w on whoolllleee board
basics [6k\]: it's like NBA , tons of amateurs just as talented as the pros, but not consistent -- and also only room for so many pro players per year
SavagePlay [7k\]: not really
DexMorgan [8d\]: Please take non game rlated comments outside of this game
SavagePlay [7k\]: i still suck, but i can try to read
DexMorgan [8d\]: ok ill make a clone
Hellhuman [2k\]: h9 form 
nonochan [6d\]: プロの卵
DexMorgan [8d\]: only people that want to discuss go there
sameasyou [2d\]: j8
SavagePlay [7k\]: milan
SavagePlay [7k\]: how can black escape?
polat [2k\]: L4
nonochan [6d\]: In Japanese we say: professional egg
pollylop [-\]: watch out for mr wizard
polat [2k\]: or K7
quup [1d\]: プロレスか 
]
;B[il]BL[2994.323]C[Trivia [2k\]: solid
polat [2k\]: hmm
StefanRadu [1d\]: Milan, what do you think about this position?
nonochan [6d\]: ちょっと違うかな
SavagePlay [7k\]: ok
DonJose [15k?\]: slow?
SavagePlay [7k\]: now white have to save those 2 pieces
A003 [3k\]: nonochan is japanese?
quup [1d\]: そっか… 
ali06 [1d\]: catalin may die
Trivia [2k\]: nobody dies
Viktor99 [1k\]: yup
nonochan [6d\]: そか
BadPlay [6k\]: what is this?
Nefeste [6k\]: how black gonna save this o3 piece?
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude, no one has to die, but one has to win
DexMorgan [8d\]: Guess next move session and go comments in my demo all people that want to talk go are invited
Onmyoji [3d?\]: ok i'll be there
beta5 [8k?\]: lol
SavagePlay [7k\]: how will white improvise this move
nonochan [6d\]: where is that?
dsvsv: dexmorgan shut it
Kirka [4d\]: o5 :d
Viktor99 [1k\]: n4
Trivia [2k\]: dex is very naive
Big2 [4d\]: j10
al1 [2k\]: DexMorgan in which room is your demo please 
]
;W[no]WL[3798.577]C[nonochan [6d\]: where is that, Dex?
SavagePlay [7k\]: :D
polat [2k\]: nice!
Maroncsan [?\]: al, u should check his info
SavagePlay [7k\]: black in danger
Trivia [2k\]: look under Dex's info
Mathematic [4k\]: just fan him
DonJose [15k?\]: in the cage?
Kirka [4d\]: black prob plays right away m5
SavagePlay [7k\]: but black can save himself
dsvsv: interesting game by w
polat [2k\]: now, q3 or m4
nonochan [6d\]: no info
SavagePlay [7k\]: and white take advantage of making solid territory
]
;B[kp]BL[2951.597]C[Viktor99 [1k\]: b must r3
polat [2k\]: O _ o
DonJose [15k?\]: smashing
leefeidao [2k\]: how many foreigner studying in Japan?
SavagePlay [7k\]: wow
]
;W[jp]WL[3778.997]C[Viktor99 [1k\]: l5?
SavagePlay [7k\]: this is kind of hard for black
polat [2k\]: Q3!
Mathematic [4k\]: i saw this coming
SavagePlay [7k\]: still surrounded
DonJose [15k?\]: b got sente
Mathematic [4k\]: but now no idea
cysian [1k?\]: L4 is bad
martin3141 [1k\]: n5=
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude, not all sente is good
]
;B[kn]BL[2923.751]C[Mathematic [4k\]: surely b in trouble
Javaness [-\]: H4 dangerous looking
Nolo [2d\]: h4 g4 g5 later?
Viktor99 [1k\]: b make sabaki
Nefeste [6k\]: cut cut
dsvsv: b sabaki ye
Kirka [4d\]: m4
SavagePlay [7k\]: k6?
Trivia [2k\]: B like to strnegthen J8, then attack upper W
k23 [3k\]: and still q2
SavagePlay [7k\]: connect first, then cut
martin3141 [1k\]: mot really sabaki, wm4 is appealing
dsvsv: still, b better
polat [2k\]: L6 is such an agressive move
Viktor99 [1k\]: k6-_-
DonJose [15k?\]: M5 would be tesuji
polat [2k\]: and M3  is nice
cysian [1k?\]: just L5 and M6 him
SavagePlay [7k\]: i don't think so...
Viktor99 [1k\]: +)
Trivia [2k\]: M5 is double peep
Nolo [2d\]: m3 
lolux [18k\]: L5
Hellhuman [2k\]: ko
Trivia [2k\]: seki
Q161 [?\]: w has weird style for a pro
Onmyoji [3d?\]: ko
glupan [1d?\]: never peep if you can cut
Hellhuman [2k\]: onmyoji is cool^^
Onmyoji [3d?\]: yes
Hellhuman [2k\]: not yes, have to say : you too ! 
IceBearToe [13k\]: haveaniceday!
SavagePlay [7k\]: possible move, k6, l5, m3, and m4
cosmicrayn [5k\]: is taranuC who i think it is?
polat [2k\]: Q3 is big for b
Onmyoji [3d?\]: lol
supercow [-\]: probably
Viktor99 [1k\]: sloooooooooooooow!!!!........
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
Trivia [2k\]: is taranuC= Queen Victoria
Wout [?\]: yes. He is the Badman!
merinslips [8k\]: http://www.shusaku.ro/images/catalin.jpg
SavagePlay [7k\]: this is critical, i rather want them to take time instead of making stupid mistake
DonJose [15k?\]: what about g5?
merinslips [8k\]: he has a fan :)
cosmicrayn [5k\]: :D
MilanMilan [9d\]: ...
MilanMilan [9d\]: L6
supercow [-\]: he looks pretty hunched on that one
MilanMilan [9d\]: crazy indeed
Mathematic [4k\]: :) 
Archaic [1d\]: this game is the best board game
Nefeste [6k\]: just l5 )
cysian [1k?\]: just L5 and show him who's the boss
Onmyoji [3d?\]: i think WoW is better board game
glupan [1d?\]: boat game?
A003 [3k\]: oh milan here
FastPlayer [8k\]: L5 is a must ?
Kirka [4d\]: k7 or m4
h34d4ch3: k7 doesnt make sense
h34d4ch3: m4 only
LipStick [1k\]: w group is neatly wrapped
Kirka [4d\]: 5p moves doesnt hvae to make sense :d
A003 [3k\]: l6 could be a misclick
Nefeste [6k\]: l5 seems bad after all..
Nolo [2d\]: l8 maybe?
power [3k\]: b stong
FastPlayer [8k\]: using a lot of time
Kirka [4d\]: k7 looks nice :d
gosta [3k\]: stong - kgs favorite word
polat [2k\]: M3!
Trivia [2k\]: captain the best
power [3k\]: poor w
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
SavagePlay [7k\]: don't talk about captain in here
SavagePlay [7k\]: he got style, but not that good yet
Trivia [2k\]: blasphemy, "dude"
Kirka [4d\]: l7, k7,m4 my guess
Viktor99 [1k\]: ohhhh............very slowly((((((((((((((..................................
SavagePlay [7k\]: i don't know
SavagePlay [7k\]: if white put k7
Nolo [2d\]: f7 sente for b so no cut easy
SavagePlay [7k\]: then black will definitely survive
Trivia [2k\]: reminds me of watching Japanese title games -- those *are* slow
]
;W[lp]WL[3349.66]C[NateRiver [7k\]: something is going to die for black
SavagePlay [7k\]: :D
h34d4ch3: see
Javaness [-\]: M4 looks quite ok
martin3141 [1k\]: yeah!
h34d4ch3: "quite ok"
SavagePlay [7k\]: yep
SavagePlay [7k\]: white lived
h34d4ch3: thats the freaking only move
Trivia [2k\]: "fairly swell, thank ya"
h34d4ch3: b has no choice but fix shape
gosta [3k\]: now as i see m4 ...
Viktor99 [1k\]:                                                          
Kirka [4d\]: there lots space head not only move :d
Javaness [-\]: these guests 
Q161 [?\]: there are quite a few options h34d
]
;B[hj]BL[2857.652]C[polat [2k\]: lets fight! :))
SavagePlay [7k\]: hmm...
ibd [7k\]: b should capture w's rook already
ali06 [1d\]: catalin may die
Schnappala [2k\]: sorry for asking, but is this kind of tournament game?
SavagePlay [7k\]: nope
NateRiver [7k\]: it looks like a blitz game but with a lot of time
h34d4ch3: rofl
Kirka [4d\]: ali06 during the game?
polat [2k\]: G11
HoangVu [-\]: lol
ali06 [1d\]: may be
Kirka [4d\]: that would suck
Javaness [-\]: This is a qualifier game for the European Fujitsu Cup representative
SavagePlay [7k\]: i see what black want to do...
gosta [3k\]: but bl5 does not look good for w
lolux [18k\]: g 11
DonJose [15k?\]: suicide?
]
;W[fi]WL[3273.356]C[glupan [1d?\]: ai ai ai
SavagePlay [7k\]: yep
Schnappala [2k\]: oh... nice :)
Kirka [4d\]: eat a go stone 
cosmicrayn [5k\]: munch*
DonJose [15k?\]: throttle
h34d4ch3: european go too strong comparated to the rest of the west
sameasyou [2d\]: when will the final game take place?
dsvsv: what is the rest of the west?
TheEnd [-\]: @javaness....is there any link to the tournamentpage?
SavagePlay [7k\]: black have to e12 i guess...
SavagePlay [7k\]: he can't really attack f12 for sure
h34d4ch3: i.e. jamaica
dsvsv: ic
Javaness [-\]: there is no tournament page I know off
Onmyoji [3d?\]: or africa
sameasyou [2d\]: f12 is very possible
Javaness [-\]: -of
purp: n4
SavagePlay [7k\]: cause white will take opportunity to pierce elephant eye
dsvsv: off-of = f?
TheEnd [-\]: thx anyway
NateRiver [7k\]: e12 is 7k  though
Cookiex [-\]: theend, where did u get your nickname?
dsvsv: b still seems better
Javaness [-\]: The EGF board ordered a 4 way play off between top 4 finishers in EGC
]
;B[pq]BL[2750.815]C[dsvsv: more light, more possibility
SavagePlay [7k\]: o?
schooby: ooh
]
;W[qq]WL[3264.851]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: trying to save...
]
;B[qp]BL[2744.8]C[Nolo [2d\]: oh
]
;W[po]WL[3257.769]C[h34d4ch3: sabaking
SavagePlay [7k\]: ok
Nolo [2d\]: q5 didnt need more think?
TheEnd [-\]: @cookiex, what do you mean...whereß
SavagePlay [7k\]: trying to lend white's power to help black build
taiji [1k\]:  lets see some skillfull sabakey
Javaness [-\]: S3 seems obvious now
SavagePlay [7k\]: not really
SavagePlay [7k\]: he still have to save those black pieces first
dresu [-\]: or csabaki
beta5 [8k?\]: r2?
SavagePlay [7k\]: which means 2 eyes
martin3141 [1k\]: isn't r4 hamete?
GotIt [3k\]: yup r2
lolux [18k\]: L5 S4
Mathematic [4k\]: r2 is my move,
dsvsv: loll dresu
]
;B[qr]BL[2620.411]C[purp: t5
]
;W[rq]WL[3254.034]
;B[or]BL[2619.096]C[h34d4ch3: oh?
beta5 [8k?\]: q10 area?
billbell [1d\]: why did b abandon l4?
A003 [3k\]: i have strong feeling b will win this game
h34d4ch3: s2 s1 s4 then what?
SavagePlay [7k\]: not really
SavagePlay [7k\]: white is extremely good
h34d4ch3: tell us milanese
Onmyoji [3d?\]: s2 o10 j14 r12 r12 h15 h15 then what?
SavagePlay [7k\]: no
h34d4ch3: rofl
SavagePlay [7k\]: i think white would ignore
SavagePlay [7k\]: after he saves s3 pieces
supercan1 [2k\]: hum 5p and 7d and win 7d will be very odd
h34d4ch3: s2 s1 s4 n5 
]
;W[eo]WL[3119.949]C[dresu [-\]: black wins by 11.5 after your sequence onmyoji
h34d4ch3: D:
SavagePlay [7k\]: oh?
h34d4ch3: h2 
MystikD [8k\]: why E5?
Onmyoji [3d?\]: yes, its a 7 stone difference
SavagePlay [7k\]: black won't fall for that
Viktor99 [1k\]: AHAHAGHA!!!!!!!!
h34d4ch3: H2 right
Xylol [8k\]: no 7 stones
quup [1d\]: wow wat
GotIt [3k\]: C5's weak
Mathematic [4k\]: wat
h34d4ch3: h2 protect the cut
minismurf [-\]: if b plays f5 now it is a reverse peep ;))
mi1 [-\]: e5 seems weird
SavagePlay [7k\]: black have to do something with those 4 piece
Sakurai: e5 seems like missclick of doom
SavagePlay [7k\]: cause white's corner will be bigger
SavagePlay [7k\]: when white got the first move
Athanor [-\]: e5 is for w h4
Flesk [1k\]: or C6
Mikki62 [1d\]: w wants ko?
SavagePlay [7k\]: it's hard
Nolo [2d\]: f7
NateRiver [7k\]: l5
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
SavagePlay [7k\]: nate black has ignored that for like 10 minutes ago
martin3141 [1k\]: j2
benwa [10k\]: M3
h34d4ch3: H2
dsvsv: e5 threatens cut of f2 stones
NateRiver [7k\]: savageplay don't review a pro game thank you :p
SavagePlay [7k\]: im not reviewing
SavagePlay [7k\]: it's fact
SavagePlay [7k\]: i just see how the game goes
]
;B[ro]BL[2405.835]C[Skinner [8k?\]: dex is reviewing
terrorist [3k\]: cornell (8d) beat taranuc twice in a row a while ago
miao [5d\]: lo
h34d4ch3: wowowow
h34d4ch3: this is sparta
Zara [9k\]: cut
Zara [9k\]: h4
]
;W[hp]WL[3098.139]C[Mercure [3k\]: !! :)
NateRiver [7k\]: where skinner?
]
;B[gp]BL[2389.474]C[blitzeur [1d\]: !!!
]
;W[go]WL[3095.265]C[benwa [10k\]: Oh, I see how it threatens the cut
Javaness [-\]: they make big exchanges ^^
FastPlayer [8k\]: thats why w closed
FastPlayer [8k\]: e5
SavagePlay [7k\]: g6 i think
Nolo [2d\]: seems better for w
lolux [18k\]: h3
Javaness [-\]: white also has C6 later
Q161 [?\]: e5 was a tricky tricky move
NateRiver [7k\]: trhat's why i told l5, i read it
Javaness [-\]: seems like white took 2 cookies to black's donut
Nolo [2d\]: b should have peeped f7 before e5
Drudwas [8k\]: g6
BadPlay [6k\]: g6 does not save it?
Nolo [2d\]: oh not
lolux [18k\]: j4
CardiffGo [4k\]: J4 presumably not worth trying
Trivia [2k\]: no the 4 stones are gone
moyoAGA1k [1k\]: black is toast
Trivia [2k\]: but B got corner
moyoAGA1k [1k\]: without butter or anything, kust plain toast
BadPlay [6k\]: what is w response to g6 then please?
NateRiver [7k\]: i like cookie, do you have cookie java? 
Drudwas [8k\]: g6 j4 black
Q161 [?\]: j4 looks like only possibilty
lolux [18k\]: j4 ladder
Javaness [-\]: L17 looks like a big point
dsvsv: g6 connect
Q161 [?\]: doesnt work lolux
Fokatukc [3k\]: g6 f5
martin3141 [1k\]: after g6, f5, j4, h3, j3, h2, j5, j2, b can try l2
SavagePlay [7k\]: j4 don't work
kailloux [2k\]: g6 j2
powerslave [7d\]: b overlooked this, he assumed w will first play g6 then h4
terrorist [3k\]: f6, f5, j4 b connects?
purp: serious time disparity
zeouf [1d\]: .3741
purp: even if black can hang in there til the end he'll be sweating
dsvsv: how could black overlook, even i could see this
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
DL2 [3k\]: e1 sente?
dsvsv: why else woyuld w play e5, kinda obvious
SavagePlay [7k\]: they are testing each other
h34d4ch3: r6 
]
;B[gn]BL[2164.573]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: which is something we don't usually do in our match
]
;W[fo]WL[3091.791]
;B[hq]BL[2160.478]C[jhnc [1d\]: e5 gave h4 and also ko at c6
Fokatukc [3k\]: j4 doesnt work
Drudwas [8k\]: g6 :P
DL2 [3k\]: h2 j4 e1 
h34d4ch3: wah
]
;W[ip]WL[3085.845]
;B[ir]BL[2158.112]C[h34d4ch3: the fuuun
Mathematic [4k\]: wat
h34d4ch3: sparta
]
;W[jr]WL[3076.092]C[Fokatukc [3k\]: huh?
glupan [1d?\]: woot
Fornetti [7d\]: e1
Q161 [?\]: this....doesnt work
SavagePlay [7k\]: :D
]
;B[es]BL[2149.739]C[Mathematic [4k\]: e1???
kenjiro43 [7k\]: B dead there?
SavagePlay [7k\]: wait
Mathematic [4k\]: yep ^^
h34d4ch3: SpARTa111!!!!1!!1!!!!
dogsaveus [6k\]: g1
h34d4ch3: w has c6
billbell [1d\]: now very complicated
blitzeur [1d\]: no
h34d4ch3: he does
lolux [18k\]: l4
blitzeur [1d\]: wblack d1
SavagePlay [7k\]: ok
quup [1d\]: g1
SavagePlay [7k\]: black is probably dead
FastPlayer [8k\]: h1
terrorist [3k\]: f1
lolux [18k\]: C6
Daniel1987 [9k\]: d1 very important
h34d4ch3: g1 go
mi1 [-\]: e1
another [1k\]: w has tesugi at c6
dogsaveus [6k\]: g1 only move
]
;W[cn]WL[2990.904]C[Aune [20k\]: G1, vital point in bulky five.
SavagePlay [7k\]: haha
lolux [18k\]: he
daniug [1d\]: ko
dogsaveus [6k\]: or c6 first
SavagePlay [7k\]: 2 eye secured
Fishtank [5k\]: very good aune
]
;B[bn]BL[2133.002]
;W[dm]WL[2988.52]C[DL2 [3k\]: e1 not a sente
SavagePlay [7k\]: b5
Kirka [4d\]: b5
martin3141 [1k\]: even if w can kill this by playing g1, since he has to capture it in the end, the result might be much better than just sacrificing it
blitzeur [1d\]: g11 is bad
blitzeur [1d\]: g1*
]
;B[dn]BL[2119.165]C[FastPlayer [8k\]: getting ready for ko ?
SavagePlay [7k\]: is gonna make big difference...
]
;W[ds]WL[2980.997]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: ok
flowSthead [18k?\]: what about black m2, try to kill k2 group
SavagePlay [7k\]: g1 for black
Nolo [2d\]: what?
mi1 [-\]: g1 now
]
;B[gs]BL[2101.553]C[terrorist [3k\]: woohoo
]
;W[cn]WL[2978.265]C[Nolo [2d\]: b lives noe
Maev [4k?\]: White want a 0.5 game ?
Q161 [?\]: nj by b
martin3141 [1k\]: this ko is small?
Nolo [2d\]: ko is kinda small
SavagePlay [7k\]: also in danger...
mikael [1k\]: b1
Q161 [?\]: i woulda resigned and cried in a corner
h34d4ch3: r6 HUGE
gryn [2k\]: how can ko be small if it helps connect.
powerslave [7d\]: b5 was better then d7
terrorist [3k\]: w probabliy is not good enough to 0.5 a 7d
SavagePlay [7k\]: oh crap
odolany [3k?\]: l5 good threat?
SavagePlay [7k\]: bad for black
DL2 [3k\]: l5 as a threat
lolux [18k\]:    w  B5
Q161 [?\]: r6 not that huge
SavagePlay [7k\]: i counted all the threats
Vibration [6k\]: b5
h34d4ch3: we know
SavagePlay [7k\]: black has more threats
mikael [1k\]: with b5 Q1 treat disapear
mikael [1k\]: Q1!D1^^
]
;B[mo]BL[2041.964]C[Nefeste [6k\]: w gains instant life due to this ko .. no?
]
;W[jm]WL[2965.562]C[Nefeste [6k\]: is it small?..
Javaness [-\]: interesting combat
SavagePlay [7k\]: sigh...
raptor [2d\]: k7 is neat, if it works
SavagePlay [7k\]: black is in worse condition
h34d4ch3: how it works
SavagePlay [7k\]: 2 weaknesses now
Javaness [-\]: I expect white read out that it works
raptor [2d\]: lol
]
;B[mp]BL[1996.209]C[mikael [1k\]: white seems not so good here imo
Nolo [2d\]: f10 not the weakest gorup so ko unimportant for now
]
;W[im]WL[2956.434]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: and a third weakness for black if it builds up
h34d4ch3: man
raptor [2d\]: did work, k6 j6 h6 j7 j5 l7 
beta5 [8k?\]: h9
h34d4ch3: R6 is SO freaking HUGELY COLOSSALY BIG
Mathematic [4k\]: shh
ToDie [2d\]: i see only one weak b group
beta5 [8k?\]: calm down guest
]
;B[hk]BL[1948.509]C[Nolo [2d\]: if r6 l8 kills....
SavagePlay [7k\]: u'll see
Pinguschaf [5d?\]: looks very good for black to me
Nolo [2d\]: l8 only move
mikael [1k\]: yes
quup [1d\]: q4 stones are a bit heavy, w might use them in some other way
lolux [18k\]: E 12
PDRMedia [5k\]: The battle in the centre favours White
h34d4ch3: not now
Q161 [?\]: r6 not a big deal
]
;W[mm]WL[2912.027]C[h34d4ch3: yo crazy dude
ToDie [2d\]: i definitely prefer b
Vorkosigan [1k\]: is this game promo or something?
LordLestat [7k\]: ow Mathematic...do you want join if me about a algorithm to do tsumegos with probabilistics?^^
StefanRadu [1d\]: fujitsu cup
SavagePlay [7k\]: haha
Vorkosigan [1k\]: thx
SavagePlay [7k\]: i rather learn statistics
Nefeste [6k\]: ТагапиС молодец..
ferl [6k\]: fujittsu cup qualifying
Drudwas [8k\]: 12f
Mathematic [4k\]: join the maths room and talk there
Drudwas [8k\]: f12*
beta5 [8k?\]: Analysis > statistics
LordLestat [7k\]: i am there
LordLestat [7k\]: ^^
Mercure [3k\]: d6 ?
Vorkosigan [1k\]: analysis is 2d
Trivia [2k\]: you mean Monte Carlo?
Javaness [-\]: black has more territory, even if he is busier
A003 [3k\]: w is in trouble on the p5 group
nohoper [6k\]: b gonna find  that centre group harassed in ways we mere mortals can only dream about
Nolo [2d\]: m7 
SavagePlay [7k\]: mmm...
Javaness [-\]: I feel Csaba a little ahead
SavagePlay [7k\]: the move is good
Q161 [?\]: taranu is about to rage out on him
]
;B[ll]BL[1854.036]
;W[jl]WL[2906.032]C[Mathematic [4k\]: must count c4 as w's i guess
FastPlayer [8k\]: nice
h34d4ch3: aw dude
Mathematic [4k\]: counting is haaard
FastPlayer [8k\]: real hunting going on
dsvsv: w struggling
Javaness [-\]: Taranu has quite superb reading
Trivia [2k\]: W own groups not so great
SavagePlay [7k\]: no
SavagePlay [7k\]: white's not struggling
gryn [2k\]: white is fine
dsvsv: b making profit happily
emptyset [2k\]: 5p is suffering
SavagePlay [7k\]: not really
Yuji [9k\]: hi
h34d4ch3: rofl now way
]
;B[jj]BL[1811.987]C[hoogly [8k\]: ko?
]
;W[lm]WL[2900.628]C[Onmyoji [3d?\]: seki
majid [1d\]: isnt w pushing from behind?
miao [5d\]: lol
Trivia [2k\]: resign
Javaness [-\]: what is your rank headache?
miao [5d\]: b misthink?
h34d4ch3: 1k
sagesse [-\]: yeah painful too many weak groups for a 5p
StefanRadu [1d\]: is there something around r6-s6
h34d4ch3: lies, im 10k
Trivia [2k\]: s6 is purdy big
Nefeste [6k\]: i dont believe u 10k
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
nohoper [6k\]: they just look weak to you :P
jhnc [1d\]: must have one weak group, zero weak groups is inefficient
HyungGO [6k\]: why not?
Javaness [-\]: I believe he is 10k, he thinks l33tsp34k is cool
h34d4ch3: damn, got me, im 14k actually
Nolo [2d\]: m7 connects well
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
quup [1d\]: f11 isnt a weak group
HyungGO [6k\]: lame
Vorkosigan [1k\]: ok, it's obvious now
Javaness [-\]: how about just O6
power [3k\]: it is, quup
SavagePlay [7k\]: wait....
Vorkosigan [1k\]: you suffer from multiple personalities disorder
SavagePlay [7k\]: white just lived
beta5 [8k?\]: m6?
miao [5d\]: o6 no good i think
Trivia [2k\]: W barely spent above 10 minutes
Q161 [?\]: meowww
Vorkosigan [1k\]: those personalities disagree, since they are different level, hence the headache
miao [5d\]: :)
h34d4ch3: lol
ali06 [1d\]: taranu maay die
Q161 [?\]: ^_^
lolux [18k\]: White can connect when he wants 
SavagePlay [7k\]: that m7 is a cut down to those 2 black pieces
miao [5d\]: tanru lives forever
Nolo [2d\]: m10 
nicetomeet [1k\]: fujitsu cup ??
nohoper [6k\]: high rank players get more moves cos they dont waste them unnecessarily
SavagePlay [7k\]: which means, white cannot be killed
h34d4ch3: b is busy
polat [2k\]: tanru?
nohoper [6k\]: so their groups always look weak
miao [5d\]: sorry miswrite
kingbong [1k\]: why he can not die
Trivia [2k\]: yes L7 don't work
miao [5d\]: i am eating while writing
miao [5d\]: not working well
miao [5d\]: <<
Pepijn [-\]: hm the kibitz is a bit boring now
Paradize [1k\]: uh?
h34d4ch3: i can make some jokes if you want
Trivia [2k\]: you can join Dex's clome
]
;B[km]BL[1611.284]C[dsvsv: pep it up:)
lolux [18k\]: o6
Onmyoji [3d?\]: 666 viewers
]
;W[kl]WL[2896.635]
;B[ml]BL[1610.288]C[Aberrance [6k\]: miao: I am making dinner while not writing, that works really well.
beta5 [8k?\]: m6 now
h34d4ch3: D:
miao [5d\]: hehe
Javaness [-\]: how about empty triangke
ToDie [2d\]: m5 
SavagePlay [7k\]: no
miao [5d\]: nice b
SavagePlay [7k\]: that's suicide
]
;W[nm]WL[2857.514]C[FastPlayer [8k\]: w seems struggling
ToDie [2d\]: m6 doesn´t work
miao [5d\]: it does
beta5 [8k?\]: m6 is one eye
miao [5d\]: but good for b
Javaness [-\]: O7 looks severe
]
;B[ko]BL[1590.473]
;W[kj]WL[2854.201]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: haha
h34d4ch3: this is a complete mess
Isobeutel [6k\]: may breakfast comment the game a bit?
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
dsvsv: ah breakfast here
sagesse [-\]: maybe m10 instead of l5 ?
Trivia [2k\]: W is out\\
nohoper [6k\]: w is perfectly relaxed
FastPlayer [8k\]: not yet
tinca [-\]: the ko is going to revive soon
mi1 [-\]: too bad roln111 do not play this tournament, he  like situations like this
HyungGO [6k\]: for now
SavagePlay [7k\]: haha
SavagePlay [7k\]: l10 is surviving move
Javaness [-\]: white cannot be shut in
]
;B[mj]BL[1534.24]C[breakfast [3p\]: my impressions: B is ahead
Javaness [-\]: but how strong is )7
]
;W[ki]WL[2848.477]C[HyungGO [6k\]: ty for stating the obvious
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
Javaness [-\]: - O7
]
;B[ok]BL[1524.748]C[miao [5d\]: indee mr 3p
Lionking [3d\]: black is not ahead, white is more thick
ndn [2k\]: wow!
polat [2k\]: j12 
miao [5d\]: indeed
h34d4ch3: while w has s6 w is fine
Javaness [-\]: S6 now I suppose
tinca [-\]: 3d  vs 3p :-)
Lionking [3d\]: ;)
ali06 [1d\]: catalin may die
dogsaveus [6k\]: wow 700 spectators
sagesse [-\]: j12 ?
FastPlayer [8k\]: b def looking better
ndn [2k\]: p9 is pretty fearless
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
nohoper [6k\]: b centre dead
Trivia [2k\]: L9 cut or not?
dsvsv: doubt it
tinca [-\]: b would not mind
Nolo [2d\]: o7 bigger than h9 
SavagePlay [7k\]: not yet
Trivia [2k\]: ok not cut
billbell [1d\]: b can sacrifice r4
martin3141 [1k\]: even if b dies in the center, capturing w's group seams bigger
breakfast [3p\]: more details about this event: http://gosensations.com/
Trivia [2k\]: plug plug
SavagePlay [7k\]: ok breakfast
SavagePlay [7k\]: we understand u love to talk about how one lose from the match
FastPlayer [8k\]: why not l9 now ?
Cookiex [-\]: breakfast always seems to make an oppertunity to advertise his website -_-
h34d4ch3: lol
Cookiex [-\]: douchebaggery if you ask me
Trivia [2k\]: it's not a bad website
bobombera [9k\]: desrves the game
Maroncsan [?\]: whats the problem with that cookiex
go4blitz [3k\]: it's a good web site:-)
mi1 [-\]: this website rox
h34d4ch3: isnt that go gossip site??
hoogly [8k\]: b loses on time....
Maroncsan [?\]: i mean advertizing :)
Pepijn [-\]: which website? I missed it I think
nohoper [6k\]: because of k9 presumably
nostory [5k\]: is this the quali to the preelementary or to the main event?
HyungGO [6k\]: losing on time would suck
powerslave [7d\]: q9
Trivia [2k\]: he has byoyomi
SavagePlay [7k\]: ok let's get to some "constructive" kibitz now
illa [2k\]: k11 too risky?
FastPlayer [8k\]: b middlegroup dead ?
Q161 [?\]: does this event have a website?
h34d4ch3: not yet
SavagePlay [7k\]: not for now
FastPlayer [8k\]: so b is now taking the right side ?
h34d4ch3: right is way bigger
lolux [18k\]: j5 then m9
h34d4ch3: q9
beta5 [8k?\]: why npt h12?
beta5 [8k?\]: not
quup [1d\]: q9 doesnt look too bad
SavagePlay [7k\]: s6?
HyungGO [6k\]: since the right side is about to die
h34d4ch3: that cuz i found q9
Q161 [?\]: o lol
petition [4k\]: s6 seems urgent to me...
terrorist [3k\]: remember that ko at d6?
Q161 [?\]: thx breakfast i just read that
terrorist [3k\]: I had forgotten
]
;W[qm]WL[2594.61]C[quup [1d\]: or maybe you read it frmo the 7d who posted q9 a few lines above you
HyungGO [6k\]: he plays!
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
Onmyoji [3d?\]: :O
h34d4ch3: D:
FastPlayer [8k\]: w seems quite dead there
Onmyoji [3d?\]: r7 pro level move
SavagePlay [7k\]: not yet
SavagePlay [7k\]: from this point of view
kingbong [1k\]: why pro move
billbell [1d\]: r9
SavagePlay [7k\]: white is still solid
petition [4k\]: is cornel burzo in this tournament?
kingbong [1k\]: ıt ıss atack and defence move
terrorist [3k\]: I think r4 is slightly dead so white is easily alive
nohoper [6k\]: w gonna creep up right side now or kill s5
Trivia [2k\]: W puts pressure on P9 now
mi1 [-\]: no, only 4 players
petition [4k\]: ah, thanks
SavagePlay [7k\]: cornel?
quup [1d\]: r7 is the type of shape move that you have to play as pro
quup [1d\]: no other moves are allowed
emptyset [2k\]: we need breakfast comments
emptyset [2k\]: lol
lolux [18k\]: b P6 
martin3141 [1k\]: r7 threatens s4
ndn [2k\]: p6 for seki
SavagePlay [7k\]: oh come on! any 7d or better tell us what can white do
kingbong [1k\]: yes
FastPlayer [8k\]: and milanmilan comments :)
kingbong [1k\]: martın ı read ıt so
petition [4k\]: the trolls are too rude for strong players to bother
gosta [3k\]: r9
gfdhff [-\]: o Sai comments
Trivia [2k\]: wil this game be on gosensations.com, breakfast?
A003 [3k\]: what would cho chi ken do in this game?
Fizix [12k\]: r17
kingbong [1k\]: :)
Q161 [?\]: its cho CHIKUN
FastPlayer [8k\]: b r9  kills bottom right black group ?
gosta [3k\]: cho chicken?
quup [1d\]: probably would be very confused as to why he is qualifying as an euro representative to fujitsu cup
lolux [18k\]: O6
dsvsv: :)
Zara [9k\]: he would pick out his handkerchief and clean his nose
HyungGO [6k\]: o6 is suicidal
SavagePlay [7k\]: how about p6?
quup [1d\]: r9 looks simple and solid
lolux [18k\]: are you sure
HyungGO [6k\]: is p6 the 2 black stones are dead
nohoper [6k\]: well b can play something like s2 and w escapes north or b can play something like r9 and w kills r4
beta5 [8k?\]: w looks alive
A003 [3k\]: i always mix with chicken soup damn it!
FastPlayer [8k\]: but wouldnt r9 get the 2 black stones killed ?
quup [1d\]: oh right, w can capture 2 stones if b isn't careful...
HyungGO [6k\]: so would p6
dsvsv: w 5 groups already, cannot get well
CHOCHlKUN: [9p\]: w so pwned
seikenguy [-\]: s4 
petition [4k\]: after br9, w must prevent bs2, it seems
Onmyoji [3d?\]: omg its cho chiken
Zara [9k\]: xD#
HyungGO [6k\]: omg
Onmyoji [3d?\]: i didnt know he played on kgs
kenjiro43 [7k\]: It is really Cho Chikun?
lolux [18k\]: L9 treat
HyungGO [6k\]: cho chikun?
Zara [9k\]: yes
dsvsv: yeah rly
lein [1k\]: b has just as many groups
HyungGO [6k\]: omfg
Fizix [12k\]: no
Vorkosigan [1k\]: fail
hikaru38 [1k\]: yes
A003 [3k\]: oh ho ho
hikaru38 [1k\]: wow
Sebastian [3k\]: fake
Pepijn [-\]: sake
lekcjego [?\]: ;\]
A003 [3k\]: wow
mi1 [-\]: [9p\]: hello
hikaru38 [1k\]: lol 9p
hikaru38 [1k\]: fke?
Zara [9k\]: no
HyungGO [6k\]: but he was 9p
quup [1d\]: can't be fake
Onmyoji [3d?\]: not fake
Zara [9k\]: impossible
]
;B[qk]BL[1222.175]C[A003 [3k\]: finally 
Isobeutel [6k\]: omg, this joke is sooo yesterday...
HyungGO [6k\]: woah
Fizix [12k\]: he typed the 9p lol
Javaness [-\]: *cough*
Nefeste [6k\]: he WAS?
Zara [9k\]: java :D
lekcjego [?\]: loook nick LEMON !
seikenguy [-\]: :[9p\]: Shut it.
dsvsv: romanians out :(
Pepijn [-\]: hey Javaness, nice to see you here!
Zahlman [1k\]: this game is a tournament prize?
beta5 [8k?\]: whats the verdict doctor
nohoper [6k\]: now s4 presumably
gfdhff [-\]: lol lekcjego
FastPlayer [8k\]: hmm , b want the top upper corner ?
Javaness [-\]: R5 S6 and White lives sweetly
petition [4k\]: if w s4, then the exchange was very good for b
lekcjego [?\]: ;)
FastPlayer [8k\]: and side
Pepijn [-\]: we are all just getting along pretty well, aren we fella's?
petition [4k\]: but i dont see the alternative...
josekimq [1k\]: r5
A003 [3k\]: Mr Cho welcome to in kgs go network
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Yeap
Zahlman [1k\]: s4, not r5
lolux [18k\]: M5
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Welcome Cho Sama
gotcha [4k\]: s4
Onmyoji [3d?\]: cho chikun plz give comments
Nolo [2d\]: s4 somewhat big territorially too
A003 [3k\]: i am the fake admin for a this minutes
Vacuity [3k\]: kgs needs the ignore all kyus/guests/unranked playes button so hard ....
quup [1d\]: w s2 could become ko
Adriano [-\]: s6 
beta5 [8k?\]: r4
quup [1d\]: but s4 is unacceptable for w, because then s2 is b sente
Adriano [-\]: r5 s6 
billbell [1d\]: w needs sente
martin3141 [1k\]: ws4, s7, s8, s6, r8 r5?
FastPlayer [8k\]: w must survive
HyungGO [6k\]: I have a question... can the players see our comments?
FastPlayer [8k\]: so s4
quup [1d\]: no sente here for w, he's trying to live
Q161 [?\]: how come japan gets the most representatives when its so small
Zahlman [1k\]: of course not hyung
Zahlman [1k\]: just like in any other game
Adriano [-\]: s6 s4 r5 s2 s8 
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
Javaness [-\]: if the players could see your comments they would tell everyone to shut up
HyungGO [6k\]: ahaha
billbell [1d\]: r9 very big
lekcjego [?\]: yep - java that is true.
autarch [?\]: I suppose that's the advantage of playing online
h34d4ch3: that is not true
SavagePlay [7k\]: uh...
SavagePlay [7k\]: if white want to live
ndn [2k\]: this game reminds a little of a very dirty bar fight
HyungGO [6k\]: LOL?
SavagePlay [7k\]: i think white has to do something with s3 group first
fetti [-\]: well said ndn
Paradize [1k\]:                                           Paradize[9p\]: oh Dude !
bobombera [9k\]: w can survive
Zahlman [1k\]: ndn, go is like that
Paradize [1k\]: fail xD
lolux [18k\]: M5   M5
Onmyoji [3d?\]: lol
Sebastian [3k\]: s3 two stones no group ^^
mi1 [-\]: )
h34d4ch3: they would be rofling so hard at the comments
Zahlman [1k\]: paradize, not everyone has the same window width anyway
Vorkosigan [1k\]: rank faking fail
lekcjego [?\]: looks like B killed right side
breakfast [3p\]: which game is better? this one or game we played yesterday with Pop?
Paradize [1k\]: ^^i wanna to know 
Q161 [?\]: this one is more fighting so i like it
powerslave [7d\]: this one, more interesting for me
FastPlayer [8k\]: w s4, b 7 ?
powerslave [7d\]: many fights
WangFei [-\]: more chaotic >.<
Zara [9k\]: this game has more battle in in it but i liked urs more breakfast, i like simple games :)
ndn [2k\]: breakfast: we like to see blood
h34d4ch3: is this interview going to the website?
mayeck [9k\]: wow, that was untactful, powerslave ;)
Vorkosigan [1k\]: hm‼
gisel [2d\]: I liked more yesterdays one
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
odolany [3k?\]: better - deeper/spectacular?
Q161 [?\]: breakfast, can you also post some more information about the tournament online if you have time?
nonochan [6d\]: Breakfast, you want an honest answer?
autarch [?\]: could w give up lower left group to kill b middle?
sameasyou [2d\]: if w s4 then b s7?
SavagePlay [7k\]: ok let's not talk to them now
autarch [?\]: and would w consider that?
SavagePlay [7k\]: i think those great players are concentrating on the games right now
nonochan [6d\]: For the spectators, today's is much better.
lekcjego [?\]: yeah more fight and looks like big furikawari now...
h34d4ch3: s6 
h34d4ch3: my bet
dogsaveus [6k\]: s9
Onmyoji [3d?\]: why isnt w moving=??
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
SavagePlay [7k\]: s6 is fail
Q161 [?\]: why is w idle...
SavagePlay [7k\]: cause the s3 will die sooner
h34d4ch3: s6 is pure win
dogsaveus [6k\]: s6 give shape
nonochan [6d\]: Although without much spectator value, yesterday's game was very instructive.
autarch [?\]: w has 37 minutes left and is _thinking_
zc3k [1k\]: looks already death
autarch [?\]: strong players do that, I've heard
SavagePlan: I think TiranuC has no problems to live there
SavagePlay [7k\]: but if white wants to live
h34d4ch3: ROFL
lekcjego [?\]: can live .. but can also kill 
DonJose [15k?\]: is black leading?
ndn [2k\]: s6 s4 q5 s2 s8 s9 q7 and w liveS?
h34d4ch3: SavagePlan
Siljan [?\]: Europe can send one player to the Fujitsu-Cup 2010 in Japan and we dcide with thre games under the top 4 of last European congress who will go.ecide
Iyaei [9k\]: More importantly, why is a pro playing an amateur?  ...For fun?
powerslave [7d\]: r7 was bad imo
nohoper [6k\]: w prolly making coffee to give b a chance
powerslave [7d\]: q9 or r9 was better
poirette [1d\]: @ nonochan : what was yesterday's game?
Q161 [?\]: thx siljan
josekimq [1k\]: s4 d'ont work
quup [1d\]: TiramisuC very stong
martin3141 [1k\]: hm ... s6 might be better than s4, indeed
h34d4ch3: s6 only movement
benwa [10k\]: S6
TheChill [2k\]: how doesn't s4 work?
Q161 [?\]: do you know why japan gets the most even though its not the biggest or strongest?
sabin [5k\]: is taranu trying to lose this?
cognitive [2d\]: ndn, I think so too
Javaness [-\]: sponsor decides
h34d4ch3: ok so everyone is now following my great advices
Concinnity [12k\]: It's sponsored by a Japanese company... consider that.
josekimq [1k\]: s4 s7 s8 s6
breakfast [3p\]: by the way, 6 more users and we will set new KGS record
dsvsv: nowai
Q161 [?\]: cool :P
Onmyoji [3d?\]: :o
h34d4ch3: D:
KoReNJe [3d\]: w thinking how to resign?
autarch [?\]: /me goes to start 6 more clients
DexMorgan [8d\]: kgs record of number of observers?
breakfast [3p\]: 1960 users online now
NateRiver [7k\]: w in trouble
Q161 [?\]: but why is south korea lower than china
gosta [3k\]: s6 prevents bs7?
Siljan [?\]: Great - KGS record ahead
Q161 [?\]: korea should have most or 2nd most
DexMorgan [8d\]: ah no 
kingbong [1k\]: s4?
dogsaveus [6k\]: r5 maybe
mikael [1k\]: white S4 or R5 and black S6 right?
h34d4ch3: didnt kgs had once more than 1000 obs?
lekcjego [?\]: ok record.
lekcjego [?\]: ;)
DexMorgan [8d\]: the server has achieved more than 2,200 breakfast
Haboru [4d\]: S9
SavagePlay [7k\]: maybe white will lose because of time
Siljan [?\]: Well, we are free in Europe in the decision who will go to Japan, no rules given from Japan
Q161 [?\]: i think he means for one game dex
FastPlayer [8k\]: s4
DexMorgan [8d\]: only that when they restart the server, they lose the record
KoReNJe [3d\]: hm
Onmyoji [3d?\]: not 2200 pbservers
KoReNJe [3d\]: 1960 is probably a record :p
martin3141 [1k\]: b should take sente here to play k9 or j12 and attack severely
Q161 [?\]: ok i understand, so each country decides
h34d4ch3: omg
nohoper [6k\]: hmm s6 might be better than s4
Q161 [?\]: it probably costs a lot
SavagePlay [7k\]: because the past 2 games taranuc played against cornel, tara lose because he used up all the time
h34d4ch3: bleakfaster is derailing the kibitz
Mikki62 [1d\]: w can escape imso
A003 [3k\]: thank you god let Cho Chi Kun hear my request, thank you thank you
zc3k [1k\]: Not ezi to live
Siljan [?\]: We decided it this year in this way. Last years other decisions were taken, for examp,e uropean masters results
daladim [1d\]: w is aslept
KoReNJe [3d\]: w so dead
SavagePlay [7k\]: oops
petition [4k\]: so, would s6 have been better than r7, cause then br9 wouldnt have been sente?
SavagePlay [7k\]: not that cornel, that "cornell"
HyungGO [6k\]: so much time used...
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
KoReNJe [3d\]: w doing simulations on how to die the easiest way :p
HyungGO [6k\]: lolll
martin3141 [1k\]: w is still 13 minutes ahead
Meto [2d\]: r5s4s6 s2m3n6 o8 o9 s9
h34d4ch3: s6 simple life
zc3k [1k\]: 30 sec rule?
HyungGO [6k\]: imagine if there's a similar fight on the top
Javaness [-\]: 718 observers now
as12: s4 simple life
nohoper [6k\]: hmm no.........s4 is better
h34d4ch3: s4 simply dead
Onmyoji [3d?\]: w has been thinking 10 minutess
sabin [5k\]: white lives in sente and kills h10
quup [1d\]: this fight should spread out enough still so that the top is settled too
leefeidao [2k\]: w  sleeping?
Siljan [?\]: No, canadian byoyomi, 10 moves in 5 minutes
h34d4ch3: canadians...
TomTom84 [9k\]: :p
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
]
;W[rk]WL[1919.025]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: breakfast here to help taranu :p
HyungGO [6k\]: woah
zc3k [1k\]: who created canadian rule?
Haboru [4d\]: yes !
h34d4ch3: the germans
Iyaei [9k\]: 2nd line keima!
IlanKeshet [7k\]: somebody canadian i guess?
murky [1d?\]: must canadian
nohoper [6k\]: damn pros......never do what you expect :p
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Nah
kenjiro43 [7k\]: the mexicans did it
NateRiver [7k\]: that's normal
NateRiver [7k\]: s4 does'nt work well
sangetsu [7k\]: <700
h34d4ch3: the germans did, they were like 'dude , this rule we created suck, lets call it canadian time'
lein [1k\]: lol
SavagePlay [7k\]: ...
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Mexicans
kenjiro43 [7k\]: I tell you
DonJose [15k?\]: observer number is 725, including me...
dogsaveus [6k\]: i beat all of you
kenjiro43 [7k\]: :D
dogsaveus [6k\]: i told that long ago
dogsaveus [6k\]: :p
kailloux [2k\]: white win!!! every body go to sleep
SavagePlay [7k\]: Never
h34d4ch3: oh
h34d4ch3: i was wrong, that dude that said s9 was right
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Dogsaveus_ I bring Cho Chikun back
SavagePlan: we never sleep
kenjiro43 [7k\]: :D
DonJose [15k?\]: :)
Onmyoji [3d?\]: 700 observers but so few kibitz, its a shame
lelouch777 [3k\]: wow i played a whole game and they only made 2 move
h34d4ch3: :O
TomTom84 [9k\]: you know the sex age limit in mexico is 12 .... 
h34d4ch3: hi onmyonji
petition [4k\]: i want this kibitz to be less dumb...
TomTom84 [9k\]: and still some of them are going: "she looked 12 to meeee"
Onmyoji [3d?\]: hi
BlitzOff [6k\]: 0_0
bdbgdftb: tomtom, that's vatica
]
;B[qj]BL[1082.471]C[Vorkosigan [1k\]: 12 is too young...
h34d4ch3: too old, so i am loling
sleeve [-\]: true Onmyoji.  true
Q161 [?\]: tomtom enjoy the ban :)
TomTom84 [9k\]: no thats's a jimmy carr joke
SavagePlay [7k\]: wow nice savageplan made a name outta me
A003 [3k\]: kenjiro43 you did brign cho here? i thought is me
Thmayu [3d\]: what is this game for?
TomTom84 [9k\]: why ? 
MintCookie [7k?\]: Can you become professional again after quitting even if you're still under the age limit?
ibd [7k\]: kibitz is about 5p today, very nice
Thmayu [3d\]: tournamant of some kind?
SavagePlay [7k\]: nope
b3n [3k\]: is there any way to hide this chat?
SavagePlay [7k\]: this is not tournament
powerslave [7d\]: pro never loses his title
Javaness [-\]: once a pro always a pro
quup [1d\]: mintcookeie: i'd be highly surprised if that was possible
ibd [7k\]: move window to the right edge of the screen
DonJose [15k?\]: title is nothing, important is age
SavagePlay [7k\]: a fight between a pro and insei
h34d4ch3: mortal kombat Thmayu
V86 [6k\]: who wins?
Vorkosigan [1k\]: move the window so that the chat is offscreen
bdbgdftb: does catalin have a girlfriend?!
Javaness [-\]: you can also censor everyone who types rubbish
kenjiro43 [7k\]: A003_I meant to birng you, of couse
kenjiro43 [7k\]: :)
MintCookie [7k?\]: b3n, I use winamp.
h34d4ch3: catalina has a girlfriend? thats hot
Thmayu [3d\]: csaba is playing so well
BlitzOff [6k\]: thats a never ending battle though
stalkor [1k\]: EGF Executive-board has decided the following: European player for Fujitsu Cup 2010 will be the winner out of three games on the Internet !   Game 1: Christian Pop - Alexandre Dinerchtein Game 2: Csaba Mero - Catalin Taranu Winners of Game 1 and 2 play final Game 3 
A003 [3k\]: ok
SavagePlay [7k\]: i don't care...
SavagePlay [7k\]: ill just watch pro games
roflskates: rofl
lein [1k\]: did breakfast already play his game?
mi1 [-\]: ye
IlanKeshet [7k\]: breakfast won
mi1 [-\]: he won
fastfun [3d\]: But what I need is way to censor players by rank :(
bdbgdftb: hmm why kick java, i think that's a very relevant question -- concerns the shape of the player
roflskates: fastest in the west
evanj [2d\]: one thing i will never, never understand is the timing behind starting a ko and then leaving it behind
IlanKeshet [7k\]: but 2ds know everything?
roflskates: s6 now for gods sake
Mofioi [5k\]: when there is bigger point?
evanj [2d\]: then why start the ko?
evanj [2d\]: i mean, i understand in theory
evanj [2d\]: but i never can do it in practice
clydesdale [3k\]: s4
Siljan [?\]: 743 visitors
]
;W[rn]WL[1676.128]C[bobombera [9k\]: s6
Aune [20k\]: The bigger point evolved during playing the ko
bdbqdftb: white alive
Javaness [-\]: white is stronger, but will he win
]
;B[rp]BL[1045.082]C[Q161 [?\]: as long as he does om nom nom to the center stones
evanj [2d\]: hm, j.d. saliger died
]
;W[rj]WL[1672.55]C[V86 [6k\]: s4 !
evanj [2d\]: salinger*
bdbgdftb: hey bdbq
bdbqdftb: hey brother
Ripples [4k\]: catcher was a brilliant book
]
;B[ri]BL[1020.751]C[antipanda [8k\]: then if the bigger point evolves during the ko and you can see this before, there is no use playing the ko is there?
]
;W[ql]WL[1668.623]C[Q161 [?\]: it was ok
A003 [3k\]: must w win , God 2 (Mr Cho) said earlier
Onmyoji [3d?\]: it alived
bdbqdftb: now black center group comes in question
Zara [9k\]: :D
bdbgdftb: roln, how do you see the game so far?
daladim [1d\]: bdbgdftb
martin3141 [1k\]: k9
MintCookie [7k?\]: The winner of this game gets a game and a review with me.
nohoper [6k\]: ofc b is now threatened in centre AND on right
bdbgdftb: yes dala?
lein [1k\]: looks good for w now. b cant play both r11 and run with center group
daladim [1d\]: no i just wanted to type your name
daladim [1d\]: sry
bdbgdftb: cool ey
]
;B[ih]BL[894.638]C[MintCookie [7k?\]: Nah, I will just give them some mint cookies.
evanj [2d\]: daladim
ibd [7k\]: b thinks he is ahead?
]
;W[kg]WL[1653.515]C[evanj [2d\]: this is a hell of a game
j2104 [18k?\]: how do you know what black thinks?
bdbgdftb: wicked game
evanj [2d\]: i can say hell, can't i?
Mathematic [4k\]: it was a question dolt
strongerya [9k\]: yer how?
gosta [3k\]: w too cant both run with l11 and r11
bdbqdftb: so complicated
]
;B[if]BL[868.511]C[billbell [1d\]: r10 mistake?
Mofioi [5k\]: if w r11
BALLZ [4k\]: no religion plz
mi1 [-\]: r11
Mofioi [5k\]: b tenuki or s12 ?
j2104 [18k?\]: white is doin pretty well
breakfast [3p\]: sorry for boring final, but I cannot play such games
MHiver [-\]: ahah =)
evanj [2d\]: aw, give it a try
Vacuity [3k\]: :)
mi1 [-\]: white is building big dragon
]
;W[ke]WL[1607.867]C[ibd [7k\]: f13
quup [1d\]: b could have time trouble in yose
bdbqdftb: when it will be the first final game, breakfast ?
]
;B[id]BL[850.85]C[breakfast [3p\]: we will just play fuseki and yose, if it's ok
IlanKeshet [7k\]: jump fest
Vorkosigan [1k\]: lol
evanj [2d\]: boooo
BALLZ [4k\]: :)
kinglao298 [2k\]: this is a setup///
Vorkosigan [1k\]: you're skipping so much fun this way, breakfast :)
Meto [2d\]: b7
Vorkosigan [1k\]: midgame is my favorite
]
;W[qi]WL[1572.464]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: wow... suddenly f11 doesn't look to hout?
kinglao298 [2k\]: a trap...
IlanKeshet [7k\]: *hot
billbell [1d\]: finally w sente
quup [1d\]: f11 has lot of resources for doing stuff
evanj [2d\]: quup, could you be vaguer, please?
nohoper [6k\]: w has b7
j2104 [18k?\]: I think he could, by sayin nothin at all XD
IlanKeshet [7k\]: what is so vague about "stuff"?
evanj [2d\]: you know, stuff
nohoper [6k\]: then b5
quup [1d\]: evanj: there is a kind of chance that it's not so much of a cause for alarm
cysian [1k?\]: easily live with g8
Katsumi1 [3k?\]: its more clear to say that there is a lot of aji
breakfast [3p\]: Catalin wants to sacrifice his big group :)
evanj [2d\]: easier to live with b7 :D
breakfast [3p\]: and take right side instead
BALLZ [4k\]: and you can be wrong
cysian [1k?\]: yea but b will play b7 first if he wanna kill
evanj [2d\]: but then if w gets the first move, living is no problem
goth [?\]: big groups never die
MilanChe [-\]: q 11?
]
;B[jk]BL[747.036]C[evanj [2d\]: cryogenics?
]
;W[kk]WL[1568.679]C[Omnipeon [2d?\]: lol
Oban [3k\]: time to retake ko soon ?
bdbgdftb: i still think b isbetter
goth [?\]: mummification
lelouch777 [3k\]: m12 m14
evanj [2d\]: w will not answer m12 peep directly
logariasmo [2k\]: ko is still small
]
;B[pi]BL[699.655]C[bdbqdftb: I think white is better
]
;W[qh]WL[1564.215]
;B[ph]BL[698.803]C[Pepijn [-\]: jieha
Mathematic [4k\]: b invests much here
Oban [3k\]: it threaten life for 2nd white dragon
Mathematic [4k\]: in an ATTACK
breakfast [3p\]: R11 - losing move
breakfast [3p\]: was too greedy
Meto [2d\]: L17
dogsaveus [6k\]: r11?
Norway [?\]: he lost?
breakfast [3p\]: it makes big central group very weak
cysian [1k?\]: getting attacks on centre
purp:  it feels like black is pushing white around but . . .who knows til the phat chic beat boxes
goth [?\]: why? it's a semeai
martin3141 [1k\]: i hope w will die in the center
Mathematic [4k\]: lol
Pepijn [-\]: itś a one-sided semeai :)
gaboza [8k\]: 750 observers.....great game!
]
;W[kc]WL[1496.669]C[whatisgo [1d\]: is breakfast playing a simul and commenting here?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: jump again!
]
;B[jc]BL[692.033]C[MrZNF [1d\]: b has to kill the thing before his 11 minutes are up though
Katsumi1 [3k?\]: wow, thanks breakfast. p player actually makes good kibitz. They are usually totally dumb
kenjiro43 [7k\]: I hope white wins this
IlanKeshet [7k\]: awww black idn't play j18
evanj [2d\]: he has byoyomi, znf
OohAah [7d\]: black should have exchanged t10 while he had the chance
gomasch [2d\]: white center seem alive directly? b7 connect or g8 for living miai?
MrZNF [1d\]: yes I know, but in byo-yomi you can make weird decision
MrZNF [1d\]: s
MrZNF [1d\]: because of timepressure
evanj [2d\]: maybe YOU can
MrZNF [1d\]: yes, I would make weird decisions, no doubt ^^
bdbgdftb: gomasch, the L9 center
dogsaveus [6k\]: w will live
MrZNF [1d\]: It's my weakness actually, I fail at byo-yomi
Pepijn [-\]: I can't believe you were actually able to make 3 comments before being interrupted Zeno! That was fast!
DonValley [-\]: is this a tournament
evanj [2d\]: wasn't that fast
evanj [2d\]: aynoen can do it
evanj [2d\]: it's not hard
Onmyoji [3d?\]: 1
Onmyoji [3d?\]: 2
Onmyoji [3d?\]: 3
shaula [2k\]: You should read "Get strong at byo-yomi"
Pepijn [-\]: omg now everyone is trying
gomasch [2d\]: L 9 not in danger :)
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Nah
cysian [1k?\]: try 4 comments
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Get strong at being weak
evanj [2d\]: no cysian, that would be flying too close to the sun
WangFei [-\]: get strong of being 2k
MintCookie [7k?\]: Can I get weak at being strong?
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Me?
evanj [2d\]: you already are
DonValley [-\]: is this a tournemtn?
kenjiro43 [7k\]: no chance Wang Fei
evanj [2d\]: yes donvalley, preliminary round of european fujitsu
sameasyou [2d\]: it's a torment
DonValley [-\]: thxx
evanj [2d\]: winner plays breakfast (tomorrow?)
kinglao298 [2k\]: "get strong at telling Chuck Norris jokes"
MintCookie [7k?\]: What is the grand prize?
evanj [2d\]: a mint cookie
ferl [6k\]: "get strong at getting strong"
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Roman, kinglao?
]
;W[gl]WL[1319.601]C[kinglao298 [2k\]: yep
finkmester: how come 7d beating 5p ?
gogadget [5k\]: a Nuck Chorris action doll!!!
Javaness [-\]: represent europe in Fujitsu Cup is the prize
Mathematic [4k\]: because it's possible to be ama and as strong as a pro
evanj [2d\]: ??
nomind [3k\]: coz 7 > 5
evanj [2d\]: is this needed, or just kikashi?
bdbgdftb: btw what can you win in fujitsu cup?
Pepijn [-\]: or the other way around
evanj [2d\]: and d comes before p
Mathematic [4k\]: for instance, unknownplr is a good match for milanmilan
]
;B[hl]BL[651.822]C[Chrille [3k\]: ticket and hotel included?
goth [?\]: Chuck Norris was born in a house that he built himself
WangFei [-\]: mathematic is a good for physic 
Q161 [?\]: 7d kgs is not pro strengh tho
WangFei [-\]: match*
OohAah [7d\]: win fujitsu cup= 250k dollars or something like that =)
Q161 [?\]: taranu should be able to give 2 stones
andg99 [?\]: you can winn a fujitsu cup of tea
bdbgdftb: thx ooh
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Nah, Wang Fei
kinglao298 [2k\]: no, goth, it was a caban...
bdbgdftb: that's solid
Meto [2d\]: L16
Q161 [?\]: instead hes losing
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Math is good for books
goth [?\]: Taranu should give 2 stones to breakfast in the final
OohAah [7d\]: tho, i doubt the european rep will make it past 1st round =X
Onmyoji [3d?\]: IM YOU'RE MOM
evanj [2d\]: it's snowing :D
bdbgdftb: zapada
kinglao298 [2k\]: da
kuikentje [2d\]: representing Europe in the Fujitsu cup is already awesome though
Nefeste [6k\]: we could see h17 overplays ?)
miao [5d\]: oohaah why?
evanj [2d\]: not as awesome as representing korea
]
;W[nc]WL[1207.466]C[evanj [2d\]: does someone represent US?
miao [5d\]: there is a good possibility
entropi [5k\]: it is not snowing
miao [5d\]: =)
martin3141 [1k\]: I bet w will live in the center and b will win
Q161 [?\]: 1 person from north america evanj
A003 [3k\]: w is great wall style against b red wall style
evanj [2d\]: has that been determined?
OohAah [7d\]: only chance is if they get to play america
Q161 [?\]: dunno
miao [5d\]: hehe
evanj [2d\]: hah
kinglao298 [2k\]: it is snowing in Romania
OohAah [7d\]: even then, not sure win =x
Onmyoji [3d?\]: europe can beat africa
evanj [2d\]: north america has some strong players
bdbqdftb: wjite stones like snow
kenjiro43 [7k\]: in ce oras kinglao?
]
;B[oc]BL[590.1]C[Sonatine [7k\]: r13 is good?
bdbgdftb: onmyo, asian everywhere, even in africa, so i don't think so
kinglao298 [2k\]: Timisoara
evanj [2d\]: there are no asians in africa
kenjiro43 [7k\]: aaaa
andg99 [?\]: what about bbw?
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Multam
Pepijn [-\]: ?
kinglao298 [2k\]: cu pla
DuskEagle [3k\]: no asians at all in africa :|
evanj [2d\]: none
Wawl [3d?\]: there are tons
finkmester: R17
A003 [3k\]: today is very fun, i feel the connection with go
Onmyoji [4d?\]: maybe 3
Pepijn [-\]: tons :)
evanj [2d\]: no, zero
evanj [2d\]: not a single one, i assure you
BALLZ [4k\]: semantics...
Wawl [3d?\]: meh
nicht [2k\]: evanj -_-
Concinnity [12k\]: There maybe tons in Africa, but surely no Asians.
]
;W[nd]WL[1138.709]
;B[qg]BL[587.251]C[bdbgdftb: perhaps even zero asians is stronger than all africans :)
pozdnychev: many chinese people in africa; since there is oil there
Nefeste [6k\]: was e5 bad or not?..
evanj [2d\]: not true
kinglao298 [2k\]: evanj, u ate all asians from Africa?
evanj [2d\]: yes
]
;W[pe]WL[1110.437]C[nicht [2k\]: he likes chinese
bdbqdftb: I hope breakfast wins the final
]
;B[qe]BL[572.592]C[aDeadman [2d\]: there are a lot of asian people in africa 
kinglao298 [2k\]: that is how can u r sure
]
;W[pf]WL[1107.419]C[Javaness [-\]: this is a hard game to count
evanj [2d\]: i like chinese food
LugPaj [3d\]: is this a special game?
StefanRadu [1d\]: i would s12 right now
JanHao [2d\]: kibittzing make you stronger Onmyoji :)
evanj [2d\]: hmm, i honestly can't tell if i'm being really offensive right now or not
aDeadman [2d\]: but dunno if there are go players included
LaicepS [2k\]: don't you think p17was a bad move ? getting withe stronger ?
Gork [8k\]: why not f7 ?
Bluefinger [11k\]: p13
localgo [4k\]: yes
localgo [4k\]: s2
bdbgdftb: breakfast does a good job promoting Go
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: s12 lets w go r17
localgo [4k\]: s12
bdbqdftb: yes
miao [5d\]: africa has 7d
StefanRadu [1d\]: catalin also:)
Mathematic [4k\]: very many chinese in africa ACTUALLY
bdbgdftb: catalin not as much
evanj [2d\]: yeah, obviously
Onmyoji [4d?\]: chinese are everywhere
evanj [2d\]: chinese are everywhere
evanj [2d\]: oh, that was weird
Onmyoji [4d?\]: _:E
]
;B[rg]BL[513.164]C[A1R [6k\]: why not b -> f12?
ardarda [?\]: :)
Katsumi1 [3k?\]: s13 is nice
evanj [2d\]: onmyoji is inside my brain
Onmyoji [4d?\]: i remember this has happened before evanj
Onmyoji [4d?\]: :E
Sonatine [7k\]: r17 ?
evanj [2d\]: it has?
evanj [2d\]: uh oh
nohoper [6k\]: now w can move to L side
Nefeste [6k\]: s13 leaves ko threat )
evanj [2d\]: i have an overwhelming urge to look at SE
]
;W[qd]WL[1065.042]C[Onmyoji [4d?\]: loll
bdbqdftb: catalin makes more for himself
Nicobigsby [?\]: this game is amazing
evanj [2d\]: must... resist...
]
;B[qc]BL[504.995]
;W[rd]WL[1064.035]C[localgo [4k\]: but w in trouble
kinglao298 [2k\]: evanj, it would be worse for him to be inside some other part of your body
evanj [2d\]: yeah, while i'm babbling away this is actually a really good game, isn't it
zife [12k\]: count the brain cells onmyoji, I don't see anything better to count while you're in his head
Iwan [14k\]: lol
Mathematic [4k\]: did w alive now?
Onmyoji [4d?\]: its pretty empty
Johannes12 [8k?\]: s15 ?
martin3141 [1k\]: s15?!
Concinnity [12k\]: As long as it's pretty
Fishtank [5k\]: :E = :€
kinglao298 [2k\]: "space, the final frontier"?
evanj [2d\]: s15 ko
]
;B[rc]BL[439.72]C[martin3141 [1k\]: how is s15 ko?
evanj [2d\]: is it not?
localgo [4k\]: its ko!
finkmester: w is a japan pro right?
DuskEagle [3k\]: s15 is just a normal 3-lib capture in the corner is it not?
Javaness [-\]: yes
JanHao [2d\]: p16
bdbqdftb: breakfast makes go for everybody
Mathematic [4k\]: w is a romanian, pro in japan
goth [?\]: w is a Romanian pro
hikaru38 [1k\]: japan or korea?
]
;W[ng]WL[1021.982]C[kenjiro43 [7k\]: Japan
gogadget [5k\]: wouldn't W r17 instead of r16  have been better?
hikaru38 [1k\]: ok
nicht [2k\]: in china and korea they wouldnt give him a pro ranking
kinglao298 [2k\]: the only Romanian pro, so far...
JENNNY [?\]: B is winning!
Katsumi1 [3k?\]: now the fun begins
evanj [2d\]: he is african pro
Mofioi [5k\]: www.catalingoschool.com
Nefeste [6k\]: w is whinning
kenjiro43 [7k\]: No evanj
finkmester: as far as i see he is losing
bensenseii [-\]: Saga africa
gryn [2k\]: i'm pretty sure korea would, china won't.
Javaness [-\]: I estimate ony 45 points for white right now
kenjiro43 [7k\]: He is pro for real
Fei [-\]: or "go make breakfast for everybody..."
DuskEagle [3k\]: stop whining w
martin3141 [1k\]: I don't see where w's territory is
Nicobigsby [?\]: Sigh, must get stronger so I can understand a game like this. It's fun to watch but gives me a headache trying to understand the moves.
evanj [2d\]: you're not the only one, nico
bdbgdftb: n1 fei
Javaness [-\]: I make black about the same
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Imagine what I feel
kuikentje [2d\]: it will take many headaches to get strong enough to understand a game like this
]
;B[ef]BL[365.061]C[kenjiro43 [7k\]: at 7 k
Pepijn [-\]: I dont even look at the game...
Pepijn [-\]: comments only
Mathematic [4k\]: fei3?
evanj [2d\]: why do you think i'm bothering everyone by making stupid comments? it's because i'm trying to cover up the fact that I don't understand most of the sequences in this game
Katsumi1 [3k?\]: there is only one thing you need to know. r11 was the losing move
localgo [4k\]: i thought b17
]
;W[bm]WL[1009.161]C[bensenseii [-\]: I think 30k are almost pro
Mathematic [4k\]: chinese does not work if you dont indicate the tones
Pepijn [-\]: never play R11
bensenseii [-\]: Because their moves are as incomprehensible as pro moves
Pepijn [-\]: new rule of thumb
Uberdude [5d?\]: b17 so big
Uberdude [5d?\]: suprised w didn't c16 here
localgo [4k\]: yes
]
;B[am]BL[330.453]C[BlitzOff [6k\]: how do they type Mathematica?
localgo [4k\]: why not b17?
Mathematic [4k\]: you mean to ask, how to represent tones in pinyin?
Mofioi [5k\]: i dont see white points
SavagePlay [7k\]: b17? c16? i rather b16 there
Katsumi1 [3k?\]: they indicate tones with numbers
zife [12k\]: IME can usually guess what tone you mean
hiss [-\]: c16 
purp: b5
Mathematic [4k\]: number 1-4 after syllable
finkmester: maybe white is scared of dying
BlitzOff [6k\]: ah
DexMorgan [8d\]: i have a question for observers here
Pepijn [-\]: :)?
Onmyoji [4d?\]: ok
bdbgdftb: ok
SavagePlay [7k\]: :D
zife [12k\]: though it does allow you to type the tone or just choose a fitting alternative
evanj [2d\]: yes, yes, you look pretty today
kinglao298 [2k\]: lol
bensenseii [-\]: Do u want help DexMorgan ?
SavagePlay [7k\]: b5
Mikki62 [1d\]: is a7 big?
SavagePlay [7k\]: and it's good
Fei [-\]: DexMorgan have u killed again ?
Uberdude [5d?\]: i think w will tenuki now
Nefeste [6k\]: no its seki
gogadget [5k\]: b5 
Uberdude [5d?\]: taking the ko in sente was good exchange
Buggy [4k\]: c16
mikael [1k\]: about 6 points maybe
SavagePlay [7k\]: only possible good move for that
bensenseii [-\]: Maybe he wants me to teach him how to lose badly
SavagePlay [7k\]: worth 10 points
DexMorgan [8d\]: would you guys ever donate/pay to get games like this (high time settings , high level euro players) more often on kgs?
Mathematic [4k\]: C16 biggest ?
localgo [4k\]: b should sacrifice 4 stones 
namishere [-\]: that white group doesn't have 2 eyes yet
Pepijn [-\]: no
Onmyoji [4d?\]: no
gogadget [5k\]: b5 
Fei [-\]: no
namishere [-\]: probably why black wanted to attack
BlitzOff [6k\]: i wouldnt
kinglao298 [2k\]: no
Uberdude [5d?\]: a7 is bigger than 10 points
bdbgdftb: no, dex
nicht [2k\]: HEEEELLLL no
quup [1d\]: dex: there was the xy cup
Uberdude [5d?\]: it has eyespace implications
Mathematic [4k\]: dex i would pay only for chinese pro
Mofioi [5k\]: no of course not xd
nine2fiver [5k\]: i would with live commentary
SavagePlay [7k\]: b5
Onmyoji [4d?\]: maybe if they played a little faster
bensenseii [-\]: Well Dex
BlitzOff [6k\]: i cant find them other places for free
LugPaj [3d\]: DexMorgan : no
Fei [-\]: lol
nine2fiver [5k\]: depending on the price
BlitzOff [6k\]: can*
quup [1d\]: i could donate a few bucks for a prize pool
bensenseii [-\]: We can review games too
Concinnity [12k\]: Only  with proper comments and muted observers
Viktor99 [1k\]: w have no points
dawid963 [3k\]: wow catalin
Mathematic [4k\]: i would throw money at Gu Li's entire family to see him play here
Vacuity [3k\]: with comments maybe
nine2fiver [5k\]: lol
puppygirl: not without pro anyalisis and maybe stronger player
evanj [2d\]: i think to make that a realistic prospect you'd have to include a review or a third-party commentary
mikael [1k\]: so how much points for q7?
anscn [8d\]: go to tom.com
nohoper [6k\]: e12
Uberdude [5d?\]: i might if bigdoug is banned from the kibitz
mikael [1k\]: A7:p
Meto [2d\]: b16
BlitzOff [6k\]: hah
Fei [-\]: lol
Onmyoji [4d?\]: lol
Mathematic [4k\]: xD
SavagePlay [7k\]: shut up about banning others
localgo [4k\]: b5 looks natural now
finkmester: DexMorgan: You can access to amazing quantities of commented pro games for free on the internet
SavagePlay [7k\]: lt's watch this game
Thelonious [1d\]: i can watch high level pro games at cyberoro for free
evanj [2d\]: erm. where?
SavagePlay [7k\]: b5
SavagePlay [7k\]: take the offer
DexMorgan [8d\]: true, yet 800 people are here, and i see no demo with a pro game on the english game room :)
SavagePlay [7k\]: very simple
Nicobigsby [?\]: With high level comments I would consider that dex, but with just normal kibitz well :/...
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: i enjoy watching games on kgs the most
DexMorgan [8d\]: i just wonder what people like so much about this game
]
;W[fh]WL[782.499]C[Mikki62 [1d\]: b5 seems gote?
mikael [1k\]: a7 gote move so not so many points
SavagePlay [7k\]: cause people just in kgs love "kibitzing
Vacuity [3k\]: obvious?
BlitzOff [6k\]: excitment of 800 commenters
Fei [-\]: i hate it
bensenseii [-\]: Because
nicht [2k\]: kibitz
Javaness [-\]: I like the occaision
Vacuity [3k\]: best europeans playing, maybe?
finkmester: DexMorgan: chatting!
SavagePlay [7k\]: face it
bensenseii [-\]: There is a pro playing for free
puppygirl: i think cause maybe kniow the european player involved
bensenseii [-\]: And to tell our life, indeed
Vacuity [3k\]: "best"
evanj [2d\]: come on, nobody pays for anything on the internet, you know that
kenjiro43 [7k\]: DexMorgan: I don't understand the game: that's all
Chrille [3k\]: demos would be nice
kitsune [2k\]: i like watching pros play and looking for the next move
kenjiro43 [7k\]: But I like kibitz
DexMorgan [8d\]: evanj: tell that to amazon
puppygirl: but u can go any time on cyberoro and see MUCH strong player play...
Pepijn [-\]: 800 kibitzers together... there must be something worth looking at
SavagePlay [7k\]: i don't care if u hate kibitz, if u can face one's criticism, ur live sux anyway
Mofioi [5k\]: yes its so exacting cauz we see ( 5p )
kitsune [2k\]: see if my thoughts are the same as theirs
puppygirl: or on tygem...
DexMorgan [8d\]: but you arent on oro, or tygem
DexMorgan [8d\]: u are here
DexMorgan [8d\]: watching this game
DexMorgan [8d\]: why ?
Onmyoji [4d?\]: kibitz
Mofioi [5k\]: yes its so exacting cauz we see ( 5p )
evanj [2d\]: bored :D
bensenseii [-\]: Tell my life
Fei [-\]: because im bored
Mathematic [4k\]: cause go is awesome
SavagePlay [7k\]: kibitz time
Mofioi [5k\]: relax time
Mathematic [4k\]: and seeing people who are good at it fight is awesome
Nefeste [6k\]: we in europe, not in asia
evanj [2d\]: procrastinating
DexMorgan [8d\]: so you woundt be interested in pro commentary
BlitzOff [6k\]: i kgs more then those other places
puppygirl: cause i wanna see taranu play cause is nice guy ^_^
SavagePlay [7k\]: ok... why would white play f12?
DexMorgan [8d\]: because you cant kibitz
kenjiro43 [7k\]: I try to understand
kinglao298 [2k\]: wow, DEx made 4 comments in a row!!!
Mathematic [4k\]: i would be interested in pro commentary
MrZNF [1d\]: because j14 not safe
MrZNF [1d\]: w wants to cut
Fei [-\]: Dex is the guy
nohoper [6k\]: i wonder if csaba has slipped taranu $50 :P
kinglao298 [2k\]: Applause!!!
Fishtank [5k\]: it's always
Fishtank [5k\]: fun to type
quup [1d\]: using help from lag, i bet
Fishtank [5k\]: without using
Fishtank [5k\]: enter
evanj [2d\]: where are these reams of commented pro games online?
Pepijn [-\]: I would pay for 800 pro 's kibitzing on a 30 kyu game though
andg99 [?\]: on tygem they play faster
BlitzOff [6k\]: hah pepijn
IlanKeshet [7k\]: no you wouldn't.
bdbgdftb: pepijn me too :)
BlitzOff [6k\]: i would too
SavagePlay [7k\]: yep
bensenseii [-\]: I would if there was a commentary by pros after
puppygirl: its like to go to your friend game of socces: is not like looking at real madrid, but u keep an eye on them...
Nicobigsby [?\]: Would take pro comments over kibitz any day.
]
;B[eh]BL[195.021]C[martin3141 [1k\]: lol pepijn, me as well
SavagePlay [7k\]: 800 pro kibitzing 30kyu
SavagePlay [7k\]: worth it
Nicobigsby [?\]: on a game like this
]
;W[fg]WL[771.822]C[Mathematic [4k\]: or one 30k kibbitzing on 800 pros
BlitzOff [6k\]: freak some low play out though
]
;B[kb]BL[181.476]C[Fei [-\]: By the way, the players woke up
localgo [4k\]: ?
BlitzOff [6k\]: player*
Javaness [-\]: I count Black ahead, anyone else agree?
bensenseii [-\]: I love being a freak
SavagePlay [7k\]: cause 30k kibitz is very interesting
evanj [2d\]: dex: i think it would be attractive, as I said, with review / discussion afterwards; otherwise too similar to what you can find here almost every day
Onmyoji [4d?\]: yes java
Pepijn [-\]: hm I missed some 30 moves
method [-\]: I do agree java
Vacuity [3k\]: is this good for w? walking on neutral points while b gets cash .....
Fishtank [5k\]: 800 pros kibitzing 30kyu, for some reason i get associations with dante's inferno
kenjiro43 [7k\]: SE sais so Java
dragonslay [-\]: yes java
Mathematic [4k\]: you never know when they are gonna see a ko
seikenguy [-\]: Such a low level of kibitz going on.
Onmyoji [4d?\]: i count b+141.5
BALLZ [4k\]: i don't count, be b is ahead just by looking -.-
]
;W[lc]WL[742.629]C[Mathematic [4k\]: but you damn well that if there is a ko, they wont
seikenguy [-\]: A bunch of noobs.
Manudu92 [3k\]: why W push like thaat?
SavagePlay [7k\]: black follow
localgo [4k\]: tries to connect
puppygirl: i think almost no chance left for white, unless big mistake...
bdbgdftb: b ahead the whole game
bdbgdftb: let's see yose
ToDie [2d\]: b17 now
localgo [4k\]: yes
puppygirl: after black b17 ...
LaicepS [2k\]: black is far ahead, i can't see how white can catch up
SavagePlay [7k\]: white m17, black follow, white n18 i suppose, then black can try to do something with those 2 white pieces
Fishtank [5k\]: imagine being punished with kibitzing 30kyu games for all eternity
Bluefinger [11k\]: b wants to live in the center and builds possible eyespace
LaicepS [2k\]: he hasn't got any potential
IGoofy [1d\]: ws game is pointless
Onmyoji [4d?\]: where are white points
SavagePlay [7k\]: who cares
bensenseii [-\]: Where are women ?
SavagePlay [7k\]: he's playing a lot better then anyone of us
]
;B[jh]BL[109.776]C[LaicepS [2k\]: i think white will resign soon
puppygirl: i think the initial mess in corner was fatal... wonder if was hamete or misread...
seikenguy [-\]: Bottom left corner Onmyoji.
]
;W[mi]WL[735.447]C[localgo [4k\]: ?
bdbgdftb: savage, including breakfast?
IGoofy [1d\]: w got his pro rank from blitz games maybe
Javaness [-\]: I think Catalin has better yose, so he will not resign yet
Pepijn [-\]: ok, letś go all together to the last game in the active games list... to surprise the 30 kyu's!
evanj [2d\]: i'm in
]
;B[gc]BL[78.079]C[Onmyoji [4d?\]: lol
bdbgdftb: ahaha ok
ToDie [2d\]: km :(
localgo [4k\]: b17 is much bigger, isnt it?
uju [10k\]: haha ok
SavagePlay [7k\]: omg
SavagePlay [7k\]: too small
puppygirl: g17 fix any problm for black anyway
namishere [-\]: malar vs hellgin 24k-25k
]
;W[bd]WL[697.932]C[method [-\]: kgs flashmob
LaicepS [2k\]: b17 is not bigger because before g17 black was not totally alive
evanj [2d\]: do it
OohAah [7d\]: this is better than b17 because it also makes base
puppygirl: i think now black shuold just stay solid,,,
evanj [2d\]: malar v. hellgin
SavagePlay [7k\]: white live
]
;B[be]BL[58.345]
;W[eg]WL[694.325]C[Javaness [-\]: B5 is quite substantial
localgo [4k\]: hm
SavagePlay [7k\]: ok
Javaness [-\]: 9 point gote isn't it
LaicepS [2k\]: you name fit you just well ^^
SavagePlay [7k\]: white and black is going to steal opportunity to point f7
LaicepS [2k\]: *your
breakfast [3p\]: W+0.5?
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: anyone want to explain r16?
SavagePlay [7k\]: white dead
SavagePlay [7k\]: y?
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Did you count, breakfast?
Q161 [?\]: breakfast are you serious?
breakfast [3p\]: yes
puppygirl: lol even breakfast start to killbliz this days...
Q161 [?\]: wow
dogsaveus [6k\]: breakfast do you have there another account?
MystikD [8k\]: csaba byo yomi now
dogsaveus [6k\]: for play with amateur
]
;B[dg]BL[282.567]OB[9]C[zc3k [1k\]: E13 very sore
]
;W[df]WL[689.125]C[grumPgreeD [2d?\]: i thought that r17 is better than r16
]
;B[cg]BL[279.147]OB[8]C[Sandmann [-\]: catalin will lose points in the endgame
localgo [4k\]: but where are w´s points?
]
;W[bo]WL[682.099]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: :D
Javaness [-\]: white gained in the last few moves
Nefeste [6k\]: everywhere
SavagePlay [7k\]: finally
SavagePlay [7k\]: pro play
localgo [4k\]: hm
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ?
SavagePlay [7k\]: yeah
SavagePlay [7k\]: now i get it
Q161 [?\]: isnt black up by almost 15?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: how is that pro play
Viktor99 [1k\]: b+13.5
SavagePlay [7k\]: yes
]
;B[bc]BL[240.819]OB[7]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: i see a lot of pro plays in korean website
Javaness [-\]: the P16 and R14 moves are large and unplayed gote
SavagePlay [7k\]: they do this stuff very often
Pepijn [-\]: yose?
finkmester: what can b even do to ko?
leefeidao [2k\]: but b not bad
]
;W[bb]WL[653.168]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: leave the certain point there, and try to get some place big
Isobeutel [6k\]: g
LaicepS [2k\]: why p16 is large?
SavagePlay [7k\]: 2 eyes
SavagePlay [7k\]: and corner
]
;B[cc]BL[217.185]OB[6]
;W[cb]WL[647.585]
;B[cd]BL[209.904]OB[5]C[grumPgreeD [2d?\]: b gets a much larger corner with this way
SavagePlay [7k\]: that corner worth around 10-15 points, and can expand
seikenguy [-\]: I'm a bit dissappointed with W =(
SavagePlay [7k\]: no
SavagePlay [7k\]: white got the corner
nicht [2k\]: the weakest 5p i have seen so far
SavagePlay [7k\]: he still lives
]
;W[he]WL[602.649]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: no
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: r17 would have made the corner smaller
nicht [2k\]: after gua juan
]
;B[ie]BL[203.656]OB[4]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: ok nicht
MalRondon [8k\]: e15 
SavagePlay [7k\]: do u expect a 5p that can defeat a 9p play here
Javaness [-\]: nicht very polite there
kinglao298 [2k\]: m3 
]
;W[ib]WL[568.376]C[bdbgdftb: very honest, but not very diplomatic nicht
seikenguy [-\]: Catalin Taranu has defeated 9ps.
Bluefinger [11k\]: bye eye
Watchmake: pro yose
nohoper [6k\]: not really seen much 'brilliance' from w :(
nicht [2k\]: the 5p title is honorary
MrZNF [1d\]: if w kills this I am going to cry
SavagePlay [7k\]: :D
]
;B[hb]BL[175.418]OB[3]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: he can't
]
;W[jb]WL[563.712]
;B[ic]BL[172.801]OB[2]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: but look
Javaness [-\]: it is not honourary
SavagePlay [7k\]: don't u see something?
OohAah [7d\]: white dies...
SavagePlay [7k\]: black's territory becomes smaller
quup [1d\]: 5p is not easy to achieve in the oteai system
]
;W[fb]WL[546.171]C[kenjiro43 [7k\]: Catalin T is not honourary pro
SavagePlay [7k\]: smaller than it should use to be
sameasyou [2d\]: actually the title is not honorary...he achieved with by playing
goth [?\]: nicht is a 9p under cover so he can make pertinent comments
Slarre [7k\]: OR.. the strongest kgs 7dan you've ever seen!?
bdbgdftb: 5p big step, bigger than 4p
rats [1d?\]: the j9 eye can be voided
]
;B[ja]BL[147.846]OB[1]C[Thelonious [1d\]: i think taranu got is rank in the oteai- so not a honorary rank
Javaness [-\]: sagari?
SavagePlay [7k\]: j18 is good move :D
MrZNF [1d\]: H16 also an eye
MrZNF [1d\]: black seems alive
Nefeste [6k\]: magari
]
;W[od]WL[514.287]C[quup [1d\]: maguro sushi
]
;B[pc]BL[300]OB[10]
;W[qf]WL[513.127]
;B[re]BL[298.416]OB[9]C[Javaness [-\]: ah , atari!
]
;W[rf]WL[512.165]C[mint [-\]: yes, taranu earned his rank by passing the pro system, troll harder nicht.
MrZNF [1d\]: one eye + 2 half eyes
]
;B[sd]BL[297.257]OB[8]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: maguro?
andg99 [?\]: taranu only european 5p
SavagePlay [7k\]: hey quup? u live in surrey?
Javaness [-\]: white take all in yose
]
;W[lb]WL[503.305]
;B[ia]BL[293.5]OB[7]C[gfdhff [-\]: .
]
;W[an]WL[501.22]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: monkey jump!
SavagePlay [7k\]: quup?
Javaness [-\]: Taranu is Japanese 5p, I don't know how many times to say it
quup [1d\]: savage: about 3000 kilometers from there
LaicepS [2k\]: hard time now for black
bdbgdftb: w yose indeed better
]
;B[ni]BL[267.767]OB[6]C[kenjiro43 [7k\]: s12 big now
IronKing [1d\]: is he still in japan atm?
kenjiro43 [7k\]: I guess
Iyaei [9k\]: Taranu is Japanese? I thought this was for a European tournament
LaicepS [2k\]: blaci is pressed by time and by all the sente yose
Uberdude [5d?\]: taranu's body is romanian
SavagePlay [7k\]: this is not tournament
nicht [2k\]: he got his pro title in japan
Uberdude [5d?\]: his 5p is japanese
DuskEagle [3k\]: but he's a certified pro with the japanese
]
;W[nl]WL[471.654]C[aDeadman [2d\]: there are no european Pros
seikenguy [-\]: Taranu has Japanese 5p certificate. He's not japanese.
aDeadman [2d\]: europe has no pro system
Iyaei [9k\]: Ah I see
martin3141 [1k\]: bt10 is the biggest atm
]
;B[nk]BL[251.798]OB[5]
;W[lj]WL[467.86]C[bdbgdftb: maybe we will see a "EU pro" soon
Onmyoji [4d?\]: do chinese let foreigners take pro exam=?
MystikD [8k\]: B lead?
MrZNF [1d\]: t10 is gote
SavagePlay [7k\]: someday europe can become a place where everyone plays
Zara [9k\]: oohh o9 helped catalin
Fenix [2d?\]: soon = 10 years?^^
MrZNF [1d\]: t11*
Johannes12 [8k?\]: n9
IronKing [1d\]: they let overseas chinese 
SavagePlay [7k\]: according to the speed, it's a matter of time
]
;B[mh]BL[220.655]OB[4]C[IronKing [1d\]: from what i seen
IGoofy [1d\]: i sell pro certs for 5$
MrZNF [1d\]: t11 is gote for white, t12 makes snapback
martin3141 [1k\]: but t10 is reverse sente
LaicepS [2k\]: more like 20 years
]
;W[mk]WL[463.287]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: ??
MrZNF [1d\]: no
]
;B[li]BL[218.363]OB[3]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: ?????
MrZNF [1d\]: not reverse sente
hoogly [8k\]: b up about 4 or 5?
martin3141 [1k\]: ups, nevermind
bdbgdftb: well EU is now like a single country, with the lisabon, so maybe pro system is possible...
MystikD [8k\]: lol
Javaness [-\]: sagari
Nefeste [6k\]: m12 ko?.. )
b3n [3k\]: w has better endgame
OohAah [7d\]: m2 big
]
;W[mg]WL[434.923]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: n13 bigger
]
;B[fc]BL[203.775]OB[2]C[nicht [2k\]: instead of m2, m3
IlanKeshet [7k\]: m3 connects
]
;W[ec]WL[430.486]C[OohAah [7d\]: i meant black m2
bdbgdftb: w gaining with every situation now
dresu [-\]: kgs is awesome, 1k's don't know snapback, 1d's don't understand bent 4
]
;B[ee]BL[192.542]OB[1]C[WangFei [-\]: breakfast, are you sure, white wins ?
breakfast [3p\]: yes, W + few points
cgue: dresu, *some* don't
andg99 [?\]: if stan fights bran who is pro stan?
]
;W[ab]WL[408.095]C[localgo [4k\]: cant believe
Siljan [?\]: 800
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: thats pretty intense
Manudu92 [3k\]: lol
WangFei [-\]: ah ok !!
Onmyoji [4d?\]: i count b+13.5
sameasyou [2d\]: g14?
]
;B[lr]BL[300]OB[10]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
SavagePlay [7k\]: dont use SE
]
;W[al]WL[399.345]C[Mofioi [5k\]: how come 5p lose by so far?
localgo [4k\]: b still ahead, to my opinion
Onmyoji [4d?\]: who do you trust more breakfast or me?
SavagePlay [7k\]: use ur brain
WangFei [-\]: same for me Onmyoji
Javaness [-\]: huge
bobombera [9k\]: perfect
IGoofy [1d\]: soem even dont know how to get a rank
Q161 [?\]: you, onmyoji
]
;B[bk]BL[285.671]OB[9]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: if breakfast says w wins.... then w wins
]
;W[lh]WL[391.172]C[seikenguy [-\]: I count w + 3.5
Zara [9k\]: breakfast also said that r11 was the losing move of w :)
SavagePlay [7k\]: if milan comes in here and say, black win
SavagePlay [7k\]: who is right?
finkmester: white is on the lead for now by a very small margin
SavagePlay [7k\]: but white wins now
Fenix [2d?\]: i think b is ahead
breakfast [3p\]: bad yose for B  ...
lapindix [7k?\]: I have B+3,5 ...
SavagePlay [7k\]: na
MrZNF [1d\]: Milan always right
Nicobigsby [?\]: money says 3p is probably most trustworthy estimate available.
sleeve [-\]: good point Zara
dawid963 [3k\]: of course his 5p then he must win
nicht [2k\]: milan would easily win against taranu
breakfast [3p\]: B was ahead, but not anymore
Isobeutel [6k\]: well, onmyoji is god of countingg... ill rely on him
SavagePlay [7k\]: white is better in skills
]
;B[mi]BL[253.267]OB[8]C[vachibou [17k?\]: i count w+2.5.... no i joke
seikenguy [-\]: No, w + 3,5.
IlanKeshet [7k\]: "easily"
HyungGO [6k\]: 17k and count?
SavagePlay [7k\]: i don't know how much points
HyungGO [6k\]: o.o
nohoper [6k\]: p18
SavagePlay [7k\]: but white is better than black by skill
TheTuss [7k\]: what happens when an unstopable force meets an unmovable object
SavagePlay [7k\]: that's all i know
Zara [9k\]: bada bum
rats [1d?\]: my brain explodes tuss
purp: you find that neither are true
Zara [9k\]: right
TheTuss [7k\]: why? is your brain attached to the unmovable object?
Javaness [-\]: why not R5?
LaicepS [2k\]: t13? 
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
kingbong [1k\]: r5
kingbong [1k\]: ındeed
Fenix [2d?\]: i count w 61.5 and b 70 oO someone fix me up
SavagePlay [7k\]: that's only .5 points
lapindix [7k?\]: G15 big
SavagePlay [7k\]: r5 is 0.5 points
finkmester: no g15 is small
nomind [3k\]: f15 
Sonatine [7k\]: o18 
leefeidao [2k\]: b win much
nicht [2k\]: guys why count ? in 5mins we will know
seikenguy [-\]: If w wins 0,5, I say w is God. But w wins 3,5, so he's just good.
SavagePlay [7k\]: use ur brain and count, don't use machine
finkmester: b is gonna stall the game
KoReNJe [3d\]: poor w
KoReNJe [3d\]: w losing?
dragonslay [-\]: yes
]
;W[rr]WL[269.691]C[seikenguy [-\]: W wins 3,5.
]
;B[rs]BL[248.963]OB[7]C[purp: un - anything sets up that there is an un - un .  the question is a koan like a KO you need a rule to get out of it
Manudu92 [3k\]: yosetesuji
finkmester: i counted this move
Zara [9k\]: cool stuff
dragonslay [-\]: no
Flesk [1k\]: H13
quup [1d\]: yosuji for short
kinglao298 [2k\]: lol
finkmester: w is still lead
andy1975 [1k\]: b + 10
sleeve [-\]: tosuji?
SavagePlay [7k\]: i said don't use machine!
bdbgdftb: yeah
IlanKeshet [7k\]: Count: w: 19 pts corner bottom left, 7 points top corner, 5 points center, 12 points top, 7 points right    
IlanKeshet [7k\]: = 52 pts
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: dont know what s2 is for
hiss [-\]: it's too-sudji
Fenix [2d?\]: komi 6.5
Mofioi [5k\]: for an evil plan
Nefeste [6k\]: savage you use it by yourself )
kinglao298 [2k\]: t2 
Zara [9k\]: so that you ask
Viktor99 [1k\]: w+0.5...............
]
;W[ci]WL[174.818]C[BinX [14k?\]: =50
HyungGO [6k\]: woah
Zara [9k\]: pf haha
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
bdbgdftb: lol
Uberdude [5d?\]: s2 makes ko threats bigger
IlanKeshet [7k\]: what the..
Zara [9k\]: c11!
tonkpils [-\]: huh?
bobombera [9k\]: nonsense
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: ok i can take that tanswer
Mofioi [5k\]: PRO MOVE
Fenix [2d?\]: b11..
Nicobigsby [?\]: haha
nohoper [6k\]: w is drunk
dutch2dan [1d\]: pro nonsense?
dragonslay [-\]: ?
HyungGO [6k\]: lmaoooo
donGoku [5k\]: d12
Viktor99 [1k\]: ahhhhh........
mint [-\]: matt damon
]
;B[bi]BL[214.61]OB[6]C[seikenguy [-\]: Shut up lol.
Zara [9k\]: mb playing to win + time
bdbgdftb: timesuji?
SavagePlay [7k\]: oh
Q161 [?\]: hes not on byo yomi
finkmester: probably
tonkpils [-\]: 9k say nonsense?^^
Zara [9k\]: but thats not taranu
IGoofy [1d\]: w not so good
Q161 [?\]: timesuji doesnt work
Fenix [2d?\]: c11 looks either silly or mad tesuji of 9pness
Katsumi1 [3k?\]: there is plenty of time
SavagePlay [7k\]: another territory minimizing technique
mint [-\]: it's not timesuji when you're not in byoyomi lol
finkmester: c11 is 0 points
zenguy [1k\]: hmm isnt B winning big?
Mofioi [5k\]: w lost cauz of r11
Viktor99 [1k\]: w losing now
Mofioi [5k\]: breakfast said that was the losing move !
SavagePlay [7k\]: r11?
leefeidao [2k\]: taranuc must over 40
pierone2 [1k\]: seemms B winning big
dragonslay [-\]: 58 to 51
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: i woulda gone l17 instead of r11 there
breakfast [3p\]: R11 made B stronger - it was very bad
LaicepS [2k\]: i coun't b+4.5
kinglao298 [2k\]: he is 37, actually
titus1 [8k\]: f15
Javaness [-\]: 817 observers
finkmester: w+2.5
mint [-\]: actually he is 36
MrZNF [1d\]: b + 3.5
Javaness [-\]: O18 must be big
dragonslay [-\]: b 6.5
IGoofy [1d\]: even skinheads can beat euro pros
josekimq [1k\]: 15
leefeidao [2k\]: old
bdbgdftb: *especailly
Mofioi [5k\]: lol
mint [-\]: lol wow.
josekimq [1k\]: 15 punti
dragonslay [-\]: ....
sameasyou [2d\]: p18
nohoper [6k\]: a real 5p should hardly need to think against 7d....this game seems a bit 'iffy'
leefeidao [2k\]: how old b?
sangetsu [7k\]: w + 4 pts
BlitzOff [6k\]: malar wins guys, just in case you wondered
IlanKeshet [7k\]: Black: top right 9 pts (monkey),  top 2 pts, left 19pts, middle: 3 pts, bottom: 26 pts, right middle: 9 pts
]
;W[ob]WL[28.554]C[LaicepS [2k\]: nohoper, a 7d is almost at pro level ...
powerslave [7d\]: i count b + 10...dont see where i am wrong
]
;B[pb]BL[211.229]OB[5]C[seikenguy [-\]: Sangetsu w + 3,5 you're wrong.
mint [-\]: nohoper, you don't know what you're talking about.
]
;W[nb]WL[26.489]C[mikael [1k\]: black +10 at least, but i didn't count^^
JiangMei [12k?\]: I don't get why white sould be ahead
dogsaveus [6k\]: 800 spectators
bobombera [9k\]: l12
nohoper [6k\]: not kgs 7d
mint [-\]: especially when a 6d beat a 9p just recently in a big tournament.
zenguy [1k\]: catalin is real 5p
Fenix [2d?\]: agree powerslave
josekimq [1k\]: black+15
]
;B[kh]BL[192.335]OB[4]C[Siljan [?\]: 816 spectators
dragonslay [-\]: powerslave I agree
HyungGO [6k\]: lee changho got owned...
]
;W[lg]WL[19.447]C[leefeidao [2k\]: where is the biggest
bdbgdftb: yeah lee chang ho lost to a 6d ama few weeks back
HyungGO [6k\]: by an amateur
]
;B[sj]BL[189.602]OB[3]C[bensenseii [-\]: igomad00 game guys :)
Mathematic [4k\]: Yi Ch'ang-ho lost a game D:?
]
;W[rl]WL[11.217]C[sangetsu [7k\]: seikenguy: Merci :)
shaula [2k\]: i pass this time bensensei
kostuek [-\]: by an insei at all
HyungGO [6k\]: does anyone know where to find the game?
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: lee changho would be 9d on kgs rank
evanj [2d\]: no, Lee Changheaux, from New Orleans
bensenseii [-\]: Not fun shaula
]
;B[gb]BL[175.337]OB[2]C[HyungGO [6k\]: the one with lee changho?
shaula [2k\]: but the game with malar and hellgin was a lot of fun
]
;W[fa]WL[6.616]C[bdbgdftb: lol evanj
]
;B[ga]BL[171.633]OB[1]C[MrZNF [1d\]: 9d? more like 11d
finkmester: that guy was a korean insei 
]
;W[eb]WL[2.893]C[sleeve [-\]: how did csaba earn the right to play this match?
mint [-\]: unfortunate that he lost to an joyoung 9p though.
Mathematic [4k\]: you wouldn't catch Yi Se-tol losing to no punk
evanj [2d\]: he slept with me
LeFourBe [5d?\]: w should F15
OohAah [7d\]: csaba got 4th in last eygc
dragonslay [-\]: ...
OohAah [7d\]: egc*
SavagePlay [7k\]: wow
leefeidao [2k\]: g14
bobombera [9k\]: just win a wone game
Baikonur [-\]: top 4 europeans in european go congress
SavagePlay [7k\]: white actually won
sleeve [-\]: thx
]
;B[sf]BL[300]OB[10]C[puppygirl: u can look here for the game chang.ho - 6 dan amateur ---> http://justplaygo.com/index.php/gameday
MrZNF [1d\]: t14 for awesomeness
norgkost [6k\]: h15 dead?
Onmyoji [4d?\]: oohaah what place did u get?
]
;W[qo]WL[279.457]OW[9]C[grumPgreeD [2d?\]: chinese 6d amateur
finkmester: black should f4
]
;B[sr]BL[296.65]OB[9]C[lapindix [7k?\]: and Black G15 LE Fourbe ?
finkmester: alt f4
dresu [-\]: what do I miss, this game looks like b+10 at least
HyungGO [6k\]: t5?
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: oh korean player
dragonslay [-\]: dresu correct but by 7 ish
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: they dont use gups anymore huh
]
;W[pl]WL[236.881]OW[8]C[zc3k [1k\]: b+ i think
IlanKeshet [7k\]: = 66 pts - komi = 59.5 pts    w winning by 2 pts
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
SavagePlay [7k\]: the k5 group is alive
mint [-\]: the gup system is outdated, now it's the tygem system.
Nefeste [6k\]: omg its alive?..
dragonslay [-\]: yea...
bdbgdftb: :D
HyungGO [6k\]: really now =.=
SavagePlay [7k\]: really
]
;B[np]BL[257.105]OB[8]C[nicht [2k\]: n8 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: well duh
bensenseii [-\]: Come on igomad00's game, it's too interesting guys
norgkost [6k\]: that's why kyus shouldn't talk ^^
bensenseii [-\]: That's for u
bensenseii [-\]: ^^
]
;W[op]WL[226.068]OW[7]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: hey
Tetriste [-\]: oh wow I almost missed this -.-
HyungGO [6k\]: being sarcastic btw
SavagePlay [7k\]: norg then u can shut up
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
]
;B[nn]BL[241.063]OB[7]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: since ur kyu too
localgo [4k\]: big
Zara [9k\]: why p4
]
;W[on]WL[214.737]OW[6]C[Zara [9k\]: oh ko
]
;B[oo]BL[236.083]OB[6]C[Losing [1k\]: ko would be go
Zara [9k\]: cool
IlanKeshet [7k\]: norg is dan in disguise
SavagePlay [7k\]: not a big one
HyungGO [6k\]: only wat to win?
HyungGO [6k\]: way*
A003 [3k\]: if b win i win kitbizing with cho chi kun
]
;W[pk]WL[198.453]OW[5]
;B[pj]BL[232.686]OB[5]
;W[no]WL[197.512]OW[4]C[localgo [4k\]: p7, p8
Zara [9k\]: w more threats right
]
;B[hn]BL[218.492]OB[4]
;W[jn]WL[192.686]OW[3]C[dragonslay [-\]: yes
]
;B[oo]BL[216.661]OB[3]C[Zara [9k\]: k
LaicepS [2k\]: big ko
SavagePlay [7k\]: ko for place don't worth big points
Baikonur [-\]: does w need the ko?
SavagePlay [7k\]: cause white is not gonna fall for that
Vacuity [3k\]: w making points while ko and win ko
Q161 [?\]: that was incoherent
dragonslay [-\]: yes
polat [2k\]: b wnis?
LaicepS [2k\]: if black win this, he take it almost sente
dogsaveus [6k\]: is SE right?
EricM [2d\]: m5?
bobombera [9k\]: time for giving up
nomind [3k\]: risky ko for w
ali06 [1d\]: se says b+29.5
HyungGO [6k\]: LOL
norgkost [6k\]: i'll be more than glad to shut up if you ever realize how weak you are
bobombera [9k\]: time for giving up
maa135: I counted white at least 10 p ahead
Tetriste [-\]: b seems to be winning unless I'm missing a dead group?
evanj [2d\]: both of you shut up
dogsaveus [6k\]: if SE b +30 so real result is +10
localgo [4k\]: lol
powerslave [7d\]: breakfast you still think w is winning?
quup [1d\]: i'm counting b+5
ronnyss [6k\]: if w n6?
gryn [2k\]: everyone chill please.
dragonslay [-\]: t5
evanj [2d\]: we cool, we cool
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 51 pts w, b: 62 pts - komi = 55.5
finkmester: why chill?
jhnc [1d\]: m5 now?
ovidiust [9k\]: l3?
localgo [4k\]: breakfast mocks at us! ;-)
Zara [9k\]: isnt p7 big?
josekimq [1k\]: n6
Zara [9k\]: p7 cuts, doesnt it
purp: yeah, dont read if you're stressed
dogsaveus [6k\]: pro too greedy for kgs
imagine [5k\]: d12
Onmyoji [4d?\]: im going to eat now
purp: peace
]
;W[mn]WL[68.791]OW[2]C[seikenguy [-\]: If w would be losing 10 points, he'd resign.
Tetriste [-\]: then go eat
dib [1d\]: does it mean that milanmilan can give w 2h ?
Javaness [-\]: strong
]
;B[no]BL[204.21]OB[2]C[quup [1d\]: some kind of master plan
]
;W[lo]WL[62.086]OW[1]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: whoa!
MrZNF [1d\]: o crap
evanj [2d\]: yeah i was wondering why w didn't do this
HyungGO [6k\]: o ic
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
Zara [9k\]: oh
Nicobigsby [?\]: hehe
cgue: only one game.
dragonslay [-\]: p7
]
;B[lq]BL[191.118]OB[1]C[MrZNF [1d\]: o snap
]
;W[ln]WL[300]OW[10]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: wow
IlanKeshet [7k\]: that was nice
]
;B[om]BL[300]OB[10]C[MrZNF [1d\]: 0.o
MrZNF [1d\]: NOOOO
ibd [7k\]: WAT
Zara [9k\]: ho
]
;W[ol]WL[293.764]OW[9]C[dib [1d\]: P7 
finkmester: what?
Zara [9k\]: hö
HyungGO [6k\]: LOL
defectiveb [14k\]: hahahahahahaha
Iyaei [9k\]: HE DIDN'T TAKE IT
]
;B[pn]BL[294.906]OB[9]C[defectiveb [14k\]: HAHAHA
]
;W[qn]WL[290.735]OW[8]C[bdbgdftb: m2 hurts now
Zara [9k\]: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Onmyoji [4d?\]: :E
MrZNF [1d\]: what is thiiis
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
dogsaveus [6k\]: b pawn
Zara [9k\]: damn
HyungGO [6k\]: o nuts
dogsaveus [6k\]: white
Iyaei [9k\]: What sgoing on
IlanKeshet [7k\]: take what?
Q161 [?\]: unggghghhhhh
dogsaveus [6k\]: ololo
]
;B[kq]BL[285.515]OB[8]C[zife [12k\]: wnat
Zara [9k\]: w missread
Iyaei [9k\]: I'm confused
Zara [9k\]: hahahah
evanj [2d\]: wow kibitz flood
defectiveb [14k\]: HAHAHA he just saw it
breakfast [3p\]: good trade for B
Javaness [-\]: just read
ToDie [2d\]: where is the problem?
evanj [2d\]: no guys he didn't just see it
IlanKeshet [7k\]: what u talking about
dogsaveus [6k\]: p3
nicht [2k\]: yes
SavagePlay [7k\]: not really
evanj [2d\]: calm down
Tetriste [-\]: no he didnt just see it
ibd [7k\]: w probably died if he took l4
Onmyoji [4d?\]: what happen
nomind [3k\]: w lost all of his territory there
SavagePlay [7k\]: black got shorten by a lot
Incredule [3k\]: game over ...
Zara [9k\]: w done
Tetriste [-\]: 8 points gote lol
SavagePlay [7k\]: no
Javaness [-\]: P3 and atari still there
localgo [4k\]: very good trade for b, indeed
mi1 [-\]: he took some b points too
IlanKeshet [7k\]: what u guys talking about
maa135: white advantage bigger and bigger, he has better yose
quup [1d\]: w tried to shake up the order to get advantage
evanj [2d\]: p3 now
DL2 [3k\]: Ш сщгтеув ц+9ю5
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: looks like theres something at n1
IlanKeshet [7k\]: what u guys talking about???
DL2 [3k\]: I counted w+9.5
zc3k [1k\]: over 800 ppl
OohAah [7d\]: white couldnt take, he would die
DL2 [3k\]: b+9.5
SavagePlay [7k\]: no
nohoper [6k\]: taranu younger brother playing?
OohAah [7d\]: its not that he missed it
Flesk [1k\]: he couldnt take it, he'd die if he did.. 
LaicepS [2k\]: white resign
Javaness [-\]: seems white behind
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: guess not
Zara [9k\]: white wouldve died right side
Tetriste [-\]: b+10~eesh
FastPlayer [8k\]: q7
Javaness [-\]: is there some trick with F15
Losing [1k\]: go Mero
FastPlayer [8k\]: p3
SavagePlay [7k\]: wait
finkmester: white could live in the right side
]
;W[sk]WL[203.329]OW[7]C[dib [1d\]: P3 T3 Q7 P6 O2 N3 then O3 dead
dandalon [2k\]: 840 viewers.. thats a lot
nomind [3k\]: i think w lost 5 points
nomind [3k\]: gained 3
SavagePlay [7k\]: no
Tetriste [-\]: just t7
HyungGO [6k\]: p3 then q7?
dib [1d\]: so P3 not that big
SavagePlay [7k\]: white is doing something :D
OohAah [7d\]: white couldnt live on the right
Tetriste [-\]: oh nvm
SavagePlay [7k\]: he can
Mofioi [5k\]: was a miss read or this was his will ?
Tetriste [-\]: m8 dead
SavagePlay [7k\]: the middle 2 pieces
dib [1d\]: N8 dead
SavagePlay [7k\]: that's 2 eyes
mint [-\]: it was all part of the plan.
MystikD [8k\]: herllo M9?
maa135: white +12,5 now
SavagePlay [7k\]: and plus
dangerduck [7k\]: lol
Zara [9k\]: white still can get 4 points
dangerduck [7k\]: so much commenting for a free game
Fenix [2d?\]: 849 observers btw =p
MrZNF [1d\]: P3 pwetty huge no?
HyungGO [6k\]: wow
]
;B[sq]BL[224.68]OB[7]C[purp: its one eye
SavagePlay [7k\]: haha
localgo [4k\]: w alive
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 49 points w, black: 62 points black
ibd [7k\]: SE seems about right?
LaicepS [2k\]: ?
Fenix [2d?\]: EIGHTHUNDREDFOURTYNINE observers
SavagePlay [7k\]: black is scared now
polat [2k\]: ?
MrZNF [1d\]: ah
dangerduck [7k\]: G14?
MrZNF [1d\]: this is better
Vacuity [3k\]: had to
Iyaei [9k\]: People see the #p and flock
]
;W[si]WL[178.401]OW[6]C[localgo [4k\]: maybe
Manudu92 [3k\]: f15...
]
;B[sh]BL[217.717]OB[6]C[breakfast [3p\]: T9 was too small ..
HyungGO [6k\]: o snap
mint [-\]: if every observer sent me $1, I'd be $847 richer.
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
Q161 [?\]: breakfast you still say w+?
dresu [-\]: black is ahead by 15, he can play anything now
SavagePlay [7k\]: don't think about it mint
]
;W[oj]WL[157.571]OW[5]C[LaicepS [2k\]: is t3 a "I am sure I wine" move ?
breakfast [3p\]: B wins now
]
;B[nj]BL[212.611]OB[5]
;W[oh]WL[156.473]OW[4]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: u can't make money
]
;B[oi]BL[210.732]OB[4]
;W[pg]WL[155.234]OW[3]C[Zara [9k\]: there was sth with p3 o2 l2 i think..
dangerduck [7k\]: if I got a nickel for every comment here I'd be richer than you
Tetriste [-\]: nice
Universe [2d\]: ouch
polat [2k\]: no snap
donGoku [5k\]: Catalin dont see that he lost?
localgo [4k\]: yes
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: nice yose moves
Fenix [2d?\]: p3
Fenix [2d?\]: err sb
Fenix [2d?\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: that was worth like 4 pts
bdbgdftb: w behind
Fenix [2d?\]: dont mind me
IlanKeshet [7k\]: very close now
IlanKeshet [7k\]: black up 2-3 points
LaicepS [2k\]: o12 !
nohoper [6k\]: b +15
nieogolony: B+10
Zara [9k\]: i like c11 :)
puppygirl: 2-3 point?
Fenix [2d?\]: g14
IlanKeshet [7k\]: no 2-3 points
IlanKeshet [7k\]: not 10
cgue: close? SE say B+26...
puppygirl: black at LEAST +10 i count...
Javaness [-\]: G15
S41nt [4d\]: b+8.5
IlanKeshet [7k\]: u forget komi
zc3k [1k\]: F7
zenguy [1k\]: o12 good point for W if B plays
badukbaka [1k\]: b + 26,5
dib [1d\]: w M1?
dragonslay [-\]: b plus 10
Tetriste [-\]: yose is complicated in this game -.-
Javaness [-\]: SE is very bad here
OohAah [7d\]: k14 
mint [-\]: b should atari at o12, 1 point sente.
ndn [2k\]: g15?
Fishtank [5k\]: if you add a white stone at g14 it gives a good estimate
aDeadman [2d\]: lol
cgue: jk, java  ;-)
Baikonur [-\]: SE is always very bad
andy1975 [1k\]: b+15
aDeadman [2d\]: 1kyu trust SE
dangerduck [7k\]: why not G14?
]
;B[is]BL[128.341]OB[3]C[Zara [9k\]: hhahaha o12 xD
ToDie [2d\]: SE does help to count
]
;W[ks]WL[145.42]OW[2]C[LaicepS [2k\]: Souds like b+random(0-30) to m ...
seikenguy [-\]: Ahh, man w just lost a point. W +2,5 now.
ronnyss [6k\]: mint o12 is selfatari
Fenix [2d?\]: o12 nakano style
Zara [9k\]: o12 nice
KoReNJe [3d\]: omg
dragonslay [-\]: whit did fine...
DL2 [3k\]: f7 big
supras [7k\]: g15
KoReNJe [3d\]: poor taranu
aDeadman [2d\]: hm but u have too minor it from points that are  no
KoReNJe [3d\]: so weak
Tetriste [-\]: g14 no?
Fenix [2d?\]: lul
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i counted it a second ago... it was 58 points w, and 75 points black...   
localgo [4k\]: b+7,5
Tetriste [-\]: or h14
]
;B[ls]BL[86.101]OB[2]C[ndn [2k\]: @dangerduck: w gets to go to g15 then and w can free d14
norgkost [6k\]: it's sente death, not sente 1point
dragonslay [-\]: lol
Tetriste [-\]: nah
finkmester: o12 dame
gogadget [5k\]: haha nederlanders hier!!!
IlanKeshet [7k\]: black + 7.5 points
IlanKeshet [7k\]: too much to over come
HyungGO [6k\]: f7's too slow?
dragonslay [-\]: black 11
Bodano [2d\]: b + 20
polat [2k\]: so many sente for w
localgo [4k\]: +20?
happening [9k\]: f7?
]
;W[dj]WL[107.998]OW[1]C[Zara [9k\]: f7 some points?
]
;B[dh]BL[81.161]OB[1]C[finkmester: again?
localgo [4k\]: are you watching same game, Bodano?
Tetriste [-\]: l1 was sente?
DL2 [3k\]: resing
SavagePlay [7k\]: :D
SavagePlay [7k\]: see some pro move here
maa135: black cannot compensate the loss in the left down corner
]
;W[bh]WL[300]OW[10]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: and dude
polat [2k\]: wow
Javaness [-\]: what magic is this
dangerduck [7k\]: what the..
megatron [16k\]: looks like this game will time out to me
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: he wants more time
polat [2k\]: this is pro
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: w looks in denial
Tetriste [-\]: thats ...
Losing [1k\]: m1 was 2 points reverse sente or so
IlanKeshet [7k\]: black tenukis
mikael [1k\]: C14 after
OohAah [7d\]: p3 sente point?
]
;B[bg]BL[300]OB[10]
;W[ak]WL[293.594]OW[9]C[Javaness [-\]: I looked at this earlier, but thought it was fantasy
dragonslay [-\]: ...
polat [2k\]: of of of
Universe [2d\]: nice
zenguy [1k\]: it's just sente
Javaness [-\]: still isn't G15 so big for black?
polat [2k\]: senteye gel
ToDie [2d\]: just a10 
SavagePlay [7k\]: not yet determinded
aDeadman [2d\]: another 2 or three ppints for white
bdbgdftb: yeah f15 next spot
IlanKeshet [7k\]: wow black forced to capture??
mazboy008 [1k\]: g15 - H13
IlanKeshet [7k\]: thats like 3 points right there
Tetriste [-\]: not sente
Simurg [7k\]: vvoohoo
aDeadman [2d\]: nice endgame tesuji
nomind [3k\]: a10 
gryn [2k\]: 57.5 vs 69 ?
dragonslay [-\]: b plus 8
Tetriste [-\]: thats gote
abbadan [-\]: a12 
polat [2k\]: Catalin Will Win
Q161 [?\]: not gote
miao [5d\]: g15about 5 points
OohAah [7d\]: b13 was bad
zenguy [1k\]: not gote
SavagePlay [7k\]: dude
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 3 pts win here = tie game
SavagePlay [7k\]: pretend h15 is not dead, and recount the score
IlanKeshet [7k\]: oh nm... black still up 4.5
Gay [5d\]: 7kyu power
Gay [5d\]: ;)
]
;B[aj]BL[226.146]OB[9]C[LapinBleu [3k\]: xD
dangerduck [7k\]: Why isn't F7 worth something?
]
;W[am]WL[289.941]OW[8]C[Mofioi [5k\]: hehe was an evil plan indeed ..
SavagePlay [7k\]: gay is really gay
dragonslay [-\]: lol ;)
aDeadman [2d\]: lol
]
;B[ch]BL[217.178]OB[8]C[Onmyoji [4d?\]: lol
SavagePlay [7k\]: i see u play
dangerduck [7k\]: F7 seems quite pointful
]
;W[ac]WL[283.235]OW[7]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: ur really gay
]
;B[ad]BL[214.389]OB[7]C[polat [2k\]: F15
Tetriste [-\]: ...
tonkpils [-\]: xDDDDD
dragonslay [-\]: b plus 6
maa135: A masterpiece for white
LapinBleu [3k\]: Can someone ban Savage ?
Gork [8k\]: keeps sente ... wouahhh
gryn [2k\]: B+11.5 IMO.
Losing [1k\]: b + 7
defectiveb [14k\]: second that re: savage
petition [4k\]: gay is great!
Universe [2d\]: h13
MrZNF [1d\]: just block him
IlanKeshet [7k\]: d16 now for sure
Athanor [-\]: :)
dragonslay [-\]: censor if you like.
polat [2k\]: h13
localgo [4k\]: +7 not possible, 6,5 or 7,5
Baikonur [-\]: so, 3 moves in, just to get 1 point in sente
]
;W[jf]WL[238.259]OW[6]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: im not swearing
Losing [1k\]: +7 i tell you!
]
;B[hf]BL[205.069]OB[6]C[dangerduck [7k\]: gote?
Bohlen [1d\]: 5p lose?
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
dangerduck [7k\]: why not F6?
dangerduck [7k\]: F7*
localgo [4k\]: komi is 6,5
zenguy [1k\]: 1 point in sente is 1 point in sente
Losing [1k\]: +7 !
HyungGO [6k\]: why not f7?
HyungGO [6k\]: yeah
dragonslay [-\]: b plus 5
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
Nefeste [6k\]: want to see taranu vs pop either
aDeadman [2d\]: g15
localgo [4k\]: lol, hahaha
nomind [3k\]: f15 
dangerduck [7k\]: we kyus think alike :P
aDeadman [2d\]: can still escape
Fenix [2d?\]: mask is the mighty power that can save the day
seikenguy [-\]: Hmm, it's still w + 2,5.
HyungGO [6k\]: xD
Chrille [3k\]: f15
SavagePlay [7k\]: o?
quup [1d\]: b+7 looks accurate enough
SavagePlay [7k\]: g15
Seagal [1k\]: WOW! What a game!
]
;W[ge]WL[191.078]OW[5]C[Nicobigsby [?\]: breakfast has been quiet... :(
dragonslay [-\]: that was bad for black
SavagePlay [7k\]: haha
Katsumi1 [3k?\]: f7
supras [7k\]: cool
dangerduck [7k\]: G14
SavagePlay [7k\]: no use
Zara [9k\]: before h14 k11 was also 1 point no?
autarch [?\]: why didn't b play g14 instead of h14?
SavagePlay [7k\]: white lived
]
;B[fm]BL[165.926]OB[5]C[Tetriste [-\]: no points to be made here
puppygirl: breakfast just jocked around... i think he knew very well white cannot win after middlegame mistake..
dangerduck [7k\]: see!
bigben79 [7d\]: b+6.5
HyungGO [6k\]: there we go
HyungGO [6k\]: lmao
dangerduck [7k\]: now b took it :P
Zara [9k\]: thats big
dangerduck [7k\]: 1pt
dangerduck [7k\]: not huge
dragonslay [-\]: b plus 5
dangerduck [7k\]: oh wait
dangerduck [7k\]: 2 points
Tetriste [-\]: more like 2 yea
bdbgdftb: breakfast didn't ;jock around'
HyungGO [6k\]: now white loses around 3 points
Losing [1k\]: 3 points
saadetto [3k\]: not sente
quup [1d\]: 2,5 point
Zara [9k\]: 2,5
polat [2k\]: res
Losing [1k\]: since it creates a 1 point sente move
]
;W[hh]WL[155.248]OW[4]C[norgkost [6k\]: 3.5
bensenseii [-\]: 1
HyungGO [6k\]: bc he has to take the 4
Onmyoji [4d?\]: 2.7
Universe [2d\]: close
Fenix [2d?\]: w 60.5
Zara [9k\]: now k11 coming
Mofioi [5k\]: mmhm;; i would play furtively o12 ...
quup [1d\]: 2,75
]
;B[jg]BL[150.785]OB[4]C[Losing [1k\]: 1 sente = 2, so total value is 2 + 2/2 = 3
]
;W[je]WL[147.986]OW[3]C[dandalon [2k\]: breakfast probably will post this on go sensations
Tetriste [-\]: ..
Javaness [-\]: I press breakfast score estimator button
dangerduck [7k\]: J11
negnet [1d\]: u, p3?
dangerduck [7k\]: jk
SavagePlay [7k\]: well
dragonslay [-\]: b by 6
SavagePlay [7k\]: wait
OohAah [7d\]: p3??
dangerduck [7k\]: J11 would be sente though
]
;B[fl]BL[126.097]OB[3]C[Katsumi1 [3k?\]: game was over after r11
dangerduck [7k\]: or not
negnet [1d\]: p3 tenuki p7
Fenix [2d?\]: b 69.0 uh that's too much?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: nice sente
negnet [1d\]: then o2
dragonslay [-\]: p3 very big
]
;W[fk]WL[133.976]OW[2]C[Zara [9k\]: k11
mint [-\]: making prediction that b accidentally plays O12.
Fenix [2d?\]: i get b+8.5^^'
MrZNF [1d\]: h11
Tetriste [-\]: yeah p3 is sente
]
;B[hg]BL[119.951]OB[2]
;W[hi]WL[130.182]OW[1]C[SavagePlay [7k\]: dude...
Onmyoji [4d?\]: 1 pointlolol
]
;B[ii]BL[118.169]OB[1]C[Juice [6k\]: b o12
IlanKeshet [7k\]: p3 sente?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: u sure?
dragonslay [-\]: yes
SavagePlay [7k\]: p3 is useless
negnet [1d\]: yes
MrZNF [1d\]: huh
negnet [1d\]: ...
dragonslay [-\]: ...
Fishtank [5k\]: ..
DiterBulan: white +9,5 with komi
ToDie [2d\]: "very big" :D
bdbgdftb: p3 sente
cgue: p3 nothing
mint [-\]: p3 is sente
MrZNF [1d\]: this is strange
ToDie [2d\]: 1 point sente
HyungGO [6k\]: p3 is stupid
bensenseii [-\]: p3 is sente
Archaic [1d\]: hmm taranu likes those bamboo joints ;)
]
;W[ji]WL[300]OW[10]C[kinglao298 [2k\]: f15
DL2 [3k\]: k11 sente
dangerduck [7k\]: p3 too early
mint [-\]: unless b doesn't want to save 2 stones
]
;B[ij]BL[300]OB[10]C[localgo [4k\]: p3 sente??
IlanKeshet [7k\]: prove p3 sente
dangerduck [7k\]: L2 needed
dragonslay [-\]: ...
localgo [4k\]: why?
goth [?\]: w should have resigned after r11, but as he didn't he will win the game
HyungGO [6k\]: ......
]
;W[oq]WL[293.37]OW[9]C[dresu [-\]: I don't understand these w+something jokes
DL2 [3k\]: yes!@
WangZi [?\]: p3 is something
]
;B[nr]BL[297.281]OB[9]C[Simoff [-\]: yes
Tetriste [-\]: see
Fishtank [5k\]: see
lein [1k\]: learn to read
Acemi [6k?\]: q19 
bensenseii [-\]: ^^
Sonatine [7k\]: d15 ?
Mofioi [5k\]: WHO SAID P3 USELESS
ToDie [2d\]: p3 tenuki q7 p6 o2 n3 n1 
Manudu92 [3k\]: lol
HyungGO [6k\]: lol
Zara [9k\]: see
Fenix [2d?\]: why did b j10
]
;W[pa]WL[282.84]OW[8]C[mikael [1k\]: P3, tenuki, Q7, P6, 02, N2, N1
mint [-\]: you can prove p3 is sente by induction.
]
;B[qa]BL[294.196]OB[8]
;W[oa]WL[280.324]OW[7]C[localgo [4k\]: can anybody explayin why sente?
dragonslay [-\]: b plus 3
Fenix [2d?\]: b j10 was 0 pts
mikael [1k\]: arf too late :p
shanku [3k\]: if he connected on p6 after p3
Fishtank [5k\]: mikael just explained
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: nobody said p3 useless
bensenseii [-\]: j10 is 2 pts
IlanKeshet [7k\]: lein learn to keep insults to yourself.
negnet [1d\]: because p6
]
;B[jd]BL[283.062]OB[7]C[Tetriste [-\]: you just got the sequence localgo
MrZNF [1d\]: j10 for w is 1 point sente
]
;W[kd]WL[277.25]OW[6]C[LaicepS [2k\]: q7 o2 n1
negnet [1d\]: atari at q7
shanku [3k\]: then he can atari and such
dragonslay [-\]: look take 4 points if q8
DuskEagle [3k\]: it's sente cause after w o2, he'll play n1
Fenix [2d?\]: j10 for w is 0 pts
]
;B[sn]BL[272.186]OB[6]
;W[sm]WL[273.259]OW[5]C[bensenseii [-\]: no
dragonslay [-\]: *q7
dangerduck [7k\]: oh yea
]
;B[so]BL[270.259]OB[5]
;W[la]WL[271.183]OW[4]C[Acemi [6k?\]: h16 
MrZNF [1d\]: it's 1 point because of j13
]
;B[ka]BL[267.125]OB[4]C[bensenseii [-\]: b loses j13
Fenix [2d?\]: oh wait 1 pt gote
bensenseii [-\]: ^^
MrZNF [1d\]: no sente
emre35 [4d\]: b+6.5
norgkost [6k\]: j10 = 1point
Fenix [2d?\]: ok so j10 1 pt gote
MrZNF [1d\]: 1 point sente
HyungGO [6k\]: d16?
RyuuGan [2k\]: e7 ?
dangerduck [7k\]: D15?
]
;W[fe]WL[257.656]OW[3]C[norgkost [6k\]: sente
]
;B[de]BL[263.433]OB[3]C[Xorax [-\]: correct term is reverse sente?
MrZNF [1d\]: it's an atari Fenix
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: its the reason b captured s3 stones when he did
wyoming [2d\]: W 55 B 67
dangerduck [7k\]: mmm
Fenix [2d?\]: hmm oh geez
dragonslay [-\]: b plus 2
Zara [9k\]: h16
dangerduck [7k\]: H16?
Fenix [2d?\]: yeah -_-
]
;W[gg]WL[246.546]OW[2]C[dangerduck [7k\]: oh
wyoming [2d\]: 10 points +
Fenix [2d?\]: i hope at least my count is right.. b+8.5
HyungGO [6k\]: h16?
Mathematic [4k\]: G11 big
]
;B[gi]BL[245.519]OB[2]C[supras [7k\]: why not h16
Zara [9k\]: catalins is cool
HyungGO [6k\]: e7?
]
;W[gh]WL[243.422]OW[1]C[Fishtank [5k\]: i wonder what the guys who went on and on about w+3 were smoking
Incredule [3k\]: i count b + 6.5
]
;B[gj]BL[240.883]OB[1]C[bensenseii [-\]: h16 = e7
Zara [9k\]: now h16
bigben79 [7d\]: O12 sente for b
dragonslay [-\]: h16
Fenix [2d?\]: lol
DL2 [3k\]: as I said B+9.5
Q161 [?\]: lol??
RyuuGan [2k\]: o12 p10 
WangFei [-\]: breakfast, w+0,5?
Fenix [2d?\]: bigben awesome!!
dangerduck [7k\]: no more
mint [-\]: yes, o12 is sente
BALLZ [4k\]: o12 win
Q161 [?\]: o12 great
daladim [1d\]: 880 obs
BALLZ [4k\]: lol
]
;W[nh]WL[300]OW[10]C[Chrille [3k\]: yes, w have to take
dangerduck [7k\]: O12
Mofioi [5k\]: h16
Javaness [-\]: oh well Csaba won it
]
;B[rh]BL[300]OB[10]C[ToDie [2d\]: it´s sente, true
RyuuGan [2k\]: o12 = losing move for b
quup [1d\]: o12 would have been hand of god
Tetriste [-\]: yeah duh
Onmyoji [4d?\]: when is the final breakfast??
]
;W[hd]WL[288.791]OW[9]C[bensenseii [-\]: I count b+9.5
DiterBulan: white has everything under control, he is winning
dragonslay [-\]: b plus 2
rt: white win
Tetriste [-\]: white had to answer if b played o12
gryn [2k\]: r11 losing move.
DL2 [3k\]: e7 
]
;B[em]BL[288.049]OB[9]C[Zara [9k\]: hahaha
Javaness [-\]: e7 yes
Losing [1k\]: dames
dangerduck [7k\]: NICE
WangZi [?\]: o12 for black was useless before s11...
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: well thats about it
]
;W[sj]WL[276.363]OW[8]C[LaicepS [2k\]: why white time is going down ?
Mathematic [4k\]: wat
IlanKeshet [7k\]: e7 aint dame
DL2 [3k\]: b+9.5
cryptoz [-\]: why e7?
Tetriste [-\]: not dame
Mathematic [4k\]: e7 nothing??
Tetriste [-\]: one point
bensenseii [-\]: e7 = 1 pt
Mofioi [5k\]: 1p
DL2 [3k\]: I\\m 9p
dragonslay [-\]: takes a point
Losing [1k\]: I meant dames now
]
;B[on]BL[274.621]OB[8]C[mazboy008 [1k\]: we know
Mathematic [4k\]: oooh i see it
mazboy008 [1k\]: lol
]
;W[lk]WL[273.369]OW[7]
;B[iq]BL[266.7]OB[7]C[aDeadman [2d\]: j3 and f16 miai
]
;W[bp]WL[266.332]OW[6]C[Onmyoji [4d?\]: i count b+9.5
HyungGO [6k\]: done
WangFei [-\]: good SE
WangZi [?\]: se's great, thanks
dresu [-\]: at least once you are correct
]
;B[]BL[255.538]OB[6]C[Zara [9k\]: everything has to be captured??
Tetriste [-\]: pass
]
;W[]WL[262.804]OW[5]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][ma][na][db][mb][mc][ld][md][le][me][ne][oe][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][og][ll][ml][sl][cm][rm][bn][dn][ao][co][ap][cp][dp][aq][dq][ar][cr][as][bs]TB[ha][ra][sa][ib][jb][qb][rb][sb][sc][bd][qd][rd][ae][se][af][bf][cf][df][ag][ig][sg][ah][bh][qh][ai][ci][di][qi][cj][dj][oj][ik][sp][mq][qq][rq][gr][hr][mr][pr][rr][fs][hs][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][ss]C[polat [2k\]: wow
Tetriste [-\]: score
Fenix [2d?\]: the haz game over
Zara [9k\]: no k
polat [2k\]: csaba wins
wyoming [2d\]: 10 or so
sleeve [-\]: hope they review 
Lodurr [5k\]: csaba vs breakfast next o-o
dangerduck [7k\]: lol
bensenseii [-\]: 9.5
Tetriste [-\]: told ya, b+ 10eesh
Zara [9k\]: wow
Losing [1k\]: chears Csaba =)
ibd [7k\]: congrats
shaula [2k\]: clap clap good game
Mofioi [5k\]: THX GAME PRO LOL
Zara [9k\]: grats
nicht [2k\]: big win
bdbgdftb: oh boy
Fishtank [5k\]: pwnt
SqueezeIt [1k\]: congratz
HyungGO [6k\]: when is the final?
csaba [7d\]: thank you
KoReNJe [3d\]: lol
Fenix [2d?\]: wheee 1 pt off =)
Oban [3k\]: gg
ManMachine [2k?\]: gg
Aberrance [6k\]: Congtaulations!
Incredule [3k\]: congratz csaa
TaranuC [5p\]: thx
localgo [4k\]: gg
KoReNJe [3d\]: embarrassing
SaturnYear [6k\]:   WOW
quup [1d\]: nice
nicht [2k\]: left him no chance
Q161 [?\]: breakfast was wrong!
HyungGO [6k\]: congratzzzzzzz
dandalon [2k\]: gg, 869 observers :)
Mathematic [4k\]: woot
bander: THANKS FOR GAME
Aberrance [6k\]: nice game
RyuuGan [2k\]: GG
NateRiver [7k\]: pro was pwn
abbadan [-\]: grat!
tonkpils [-\]: gg
Ornithobob [1k?\]: stop flood
megatron [16k\]: bravo csaba
Onmyoji [4d?\]: lololo
albundy [2k\]: 5p???
Kisdead [4k?\]: wow
simplet [2k\]: this capture is obliged to avoid the atari on e!
HyungGO [6k\]: crazi game =)
Tetriste [-\]: give him a break
simplet [2k\]: e8
Siljan [?\]: 828 looked at the game
Nicobigsby [?\]: great game both
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: b played good
Tetriste [-\]: some amateurs can beat pros
shaula [2k\]: don't be rude to white, game was great thanks to both of them
Vacuity [3k\]: thx for the game
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i can't
Kristas [8k\]: thx
Fenix [2d?\]: i lol'd
quup [1d\]: hey, it's not like b is a weak player... give the guys some credit
bdbgdftb: r11 lol
ardarda [?\]: yeah this was art
Nicobigsby [?\]: congratulations csaba
daladim [1d\]: 883 as a pick sijian
Losing [1k\]: it's not embarassing at all, don't look down on Csaba because he's only 7d on KGS
mi1 [-\]: breakfast was right, when said "losing move"
Eklendys [14k?\]: thx
Johannes12 [8k?\]: 6f
tildebis [?\]: a 6d ama beat Lee Chang Ho recently
abbadan [-\]: thanks to both
Losing [1k\]: he was once a kobayachi insei
ardarda [?\]: thank to you, both
erna [8k\]: Thanks to both!
chibisai [4k\]: good game both :)
daladim [1d\]: csaba for president !
Fishtank [5k\]: and pigs occasionally have flown
seikenguy [-\]: Finally w +2,5.  .... oops wrong game...
Fenix [2d?\]: lol
Daniel1987 [9k\]: Great Game! :D
Seneca [2k\]: thank you!
shodansoon [-\]: yes i heard that swine flew
Fishtank [5k\]: heheh
bdbgdftb: hungary > romania :)
Fishtank [5k\]: good one
Fenix [2d?\]: what's the scouter say about b's score?
Johannes12 [8k?\]: hier steppt der bär
shodansoon [-\]: over 9,000
quup [1d\]: fenix: over nine thousaaand
daladim [1d\]: xD
albundy [2k\]: pigs are flying... hell has frozen over
Fenix [2d?\]: what! ninethousand!
Johannes12 [8k?\]: geht voll ab
Caissa [8k\]: who is TaranuC ?
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: when is the next game on?
Katsumi1 [3k?\]: what were those people who counted w ahead thinking?....
Losing [1k\]: Catalin
Javaness [-\]: csaba did well
grumPgreeD [2d?\]: you can see catalin on youtube
Losing [1k\]: nods
albundy [2k\]: a big choke artist
quup [1d\]: katsumi: about the birds and the bees, ya reckon?
Archaic [1d\]: no not 9 thousand 9 :)
Losing [1k\]: will comment Csaba?
harlej9 [-\]: was b c12 necessary??
Onmyoji [4d?\]: when is final gaaame
Onmyoji [4d?\]: plzz
MalRondon [8k\]: ^^
csaba [7d\]: ok, fast comment then...
Losing [1k\]: thank you =)
csaba [7d\]: it is really late here :-)
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