(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[4500]OT[10/300 Canadian]
PW[breakfast]PB[solaris]WR[3p]DT[2010-01-27]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Fishtank [5k\]: awesome
solaris [-\]: have a good game
breakfast [3p\]: Hi, Cristian
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[4485.428]C[breakfast [3p\]: Fujitsu cup, European preliminary, game1
breakfast [3p\]: good luck!
solaris [-\]: thanks
solaris [-\]: you too :)
]
;W[dd]WL[4462.339]C[SoloWay [3k\]: gl Alexander :)
]
;B[pp]BL[4473.625]C[Javaness [-\]: *\\o/* Go Popic *\\o/*
Javaness [-\]: already black is one corner ahead
rippeter: wow ! :P
fab [-\]: white should resign
hysteroman [11k\]: XD
rippeter: white is behind
mikoko [1k\]: strong
Hellhuman [2k\]: b = christian pop?
siaro: huge lead
Furash [3k\]: poor w
Fujisuke [?\]: what's rank solaris ?
nomind [3k\]: white is thinking hard to catch up
stafan [-\]: yes, helli
SoloWay [3k\]: omg
Hellhuman [2k\]: then its going to be high niveau game
rippeter: b + resign
adoreme [-\]: well let's see if they'll give us an entertaining show
Javaness [-\]: Pop is strong dan
Hellhuman [2k\]: 7d isnt heß
Hellhuman [2k\]: egf 7d*
]
;W[ep]WL[4342.517]C[stafan [-\]: so says his info, yes
Vacuity [3k\]: woah
mof [4d?\]: white missed d4
Baikonur [-\]: one of the best european amateurs
steles [-\]: hamete time ?
siaro: amazing come from behind
bolbi [-\]: lol steles
WeiKill [1k\]: how strong is european 7d?
Javaness [-\]: what is this, a new move
hysteroman [11k\]: missclick !!!!
stafan [-\]: lol
fab [-\]: Breakfast loves trick plays :)
Javaness [-\]: white mistake
Orandajinn [2k?\]: you are about to find out
anyone [5k?\]: misclick
evanj [2d\]: gam over
evanj [2d\]: 20k move
siaro: w +6
LeFourBe [5d?\]: E4 from dinerchtein ? wow
Hellhuman [2k\]: no, joseki
evanj [2d\]: one move is not a joseki
]
;B[cp]BL[4414.215]C[Baikonur [-\]: WeiKill, it's the best rank you can have as an amateur, so there's no upper limit, really
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: trick move?
Hellhuman [2k\]: its a whole game joseki
Hellhuman [2k\]: later jigo
Iciac [7k\]: Katsumi1 correct.
Orandajinn [2k?\]: yes
Orandajinn [2k?\]: most likely
Javaness [-\]: now Black has 3 corners to white 1
Javaness [-\]: we can say black has won
GoForFun [2k\]: c4 too early?
evave [5k\]: Today squirrel is in mood :P
Hellhuman [2k\]: white got like nothing in bottom left, b far ahead
shaula [2k\]: still normal fuseki
Orandajinn [2k?\]: black has to watch out not to get another corner though
CLaser [13k\]: bomber head !
Orandajinn [2k?\]: then he would have to resign
evanj [2d\]: wow so much stupid kibitz, i love it
rippeter: white has to r17 to catch up
Hellhuman [2k\]: youre insulting an admin right now, schalala
adoreme [-\]: d6 any bets?
Javaness [-\]: usually breakfast plays for territory though, strange to see him play 5-4 point
Orandajinn [2k?\]: lolol
WeiKill [1k\]: is solaris also pro?
Orandajinn [2k?\]: NO
GoForFun [2k\]: ~1minute per move!!!
holynec [?\]: former insei
mof [4d?\]: it is common with d6 for black to switchto the outside
shaula [2k\]: pro game stats: on 71 games in my database that have this position, 66% are victory for black, and only 34% for white
mof [4d?\]: since after all c4 is early
]
;W[cq]WL[4207.091]C[Hellhuman [2k\]: eurogotv made him 1p when i remember right :D
mikan [2k\]: Is this blitz?
shaula [2k\]: yes, a 70 minutes blitz
steles [-\]: is there a website for this preliminary tounament ?
evave [5k\]: does it look like
rippeter: 73 min blitz
evave [5k\]: :x
]
;B[bq]BL[4389.258]
;W[dq]WL[4203.856]C[mikan [2k\]: Okay good, I only watch blitz
Iciac [7k\]: B + time
NorthWind [7k\]: now he wants the corner back. can't decide
Orandajinn [2k?\]: e3
coldnight [1k\]: Go solaris
Orandajinn [2k?\]: to cut
Orandajinn [2k?\]: if he ignore
DerWitt [1k\]: c7
siaro: b5
Orandajinn [2k?\]: !!!
]
;B[cn]BL[4354.196]C[evave [5k\]: c7 
LeFourBe [5d?\]: c6 ?
coldnight [1k\]: master popic hehehe
Hellhuman [2k\]: o3 :3
Orandajinn [2k?\]: mmm
evave [5k\]: y a question mark
Hellhuman [2k\]: v2
Orandajinn [2k?\]: white needs a miracle to win now
Hellhuman [2k\]: b*
shaula [2k\]: B5 is usual move, never seen C6 before
evave [5k\]: c6 seem solid
Iciac [7k\]: o3
laGriso [6d\]: no se puede apostar en betfair?
Onmyoji [3d?\]: what is this game?
mikan [2k\]: If W B2 B is heavy, no?
Baikonur [-\]: soda popinski
nidza92 [-\]: b2
]
;W[br]WL[4102.504]C[evave [5k\]: its in different order ....
]
;B[ck]BL[4349.411]C[Onmyoji [3d?\]: why do they play?
evave [5k\]: ok .. this is interesting
Orandajinn [2k?\]: this is normal right
Orandajinn [2k?\]: ?
GoForFun [2k\]: friends, how to become 1d?
Karcusrd [7k\]: that has to be a mug shot
nublet: [31k\]: really, I don't understand black's strategy here
NorthWind [7k\]: they like Go Onm
Iciac [7k\]: lol nublet
Orandajinn [2k?\]: im sure u will when u become 31k
Orandajinn [2k?\]: 3k
Onmyoji [3d?\]: is this a tournament game=?
mikan [2k\]: mug shot or he scanned driver's license
Orandajinn [2k?\]: 30k
Javaness [-\]: black's plan is simple
Orandajinn [2k?\]: -_-
Javaness [-\]: to play strong moves and win the game
mof [4d?\]: it is not a common opening so if you mean normal like that, then it is not so normal
IlanKeshet [7k\]: hi ian
]
;W[nq]WL[4042.955]C[evave [5k\]: b plan is to live and let live
rippeter: i should do that too
evave [5k\]: m4 
Onmyoji [3d?\]: i count b+13.5
coldnight [1k\]: life and death is how Igot to about 1 dan  and later i started learning some classic go games
Orandajinn [2k?\]: U IS 1K!
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: and that got you to 1k?
coldnight [1k\]: i have another 2 dan user here on kgs
evave [5k\]: wow
nublet: [31k\]: O3 is a good move
laGriso [6d\]: solo a mi me sorprende c6?
evave [5k\]: welcome ..we have 31k here
Orandajinn [2k?\]: NO
Baikonur [-\]: mikan, that's probably his "pro shot", the facial pic they take of all the pros
Iciac [7k\]: l3?
k1r4 [-\]: i dont know there was 31k here...
k1r4 [-\]: all i know juat 30k is the last..
k1r4 [-\]: lower*
nublet: [31k\]: i'm special
Manpuku [8k\]: he's faking... :D
k1r4 [-\]: i know
Manpuku [8k\]: look at the fouble :
Manpuku [8k\]: double
k1r4 [-\]: but the rank is...
]
;B[qn]BL[4200.489]C[evave [5k\]: kgs has no lowest
Baikonur [-\]: there isn't, if you're observant, you notice he has writen the 31k himself
Onmyoji [3d?\]: :E
]
;W[pr]WL[4026.543]
;B[qq]BL[4193.004]C[Onmyoji [3d?\]: q2 good move
SoloWay [3k\]: wow...
]
;W[kq]WL[4018.114]C[SoloWay [3k\]: someone said moves like q2 are amateurish
Iciac [7k\]: white left influence prevented n3?
evave [5k\]: b really passive till now
]
;B[fc]BL[4175.999]C[Footprints [4k\]: of course theyre not amateurish
Onmyoji [3d?\]: plz no boring joseki again
MilanChe [-\]: they play a little bit slow for my taste
xaero [1d\]: играют пофану?
VladI [5k\]: С кем играют то?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: yes breakfast is an amature
IlanKeshet [7k\]: at winning
nublet: [31k\]: black is low on the lower side, which doesn't synergize with the rest of his game.
xaero [1d\]: игрроки играют
nublet: *on lower left side
SoloWay [3k\]: квалификация на Fujitsu Cup 2010
SoloWay [3k\]: квота
xaero [1d\]: о-о, круто!
mof [4d?\]: q2 is quite ok - he has to add a move there, and why not somewhere in the open area between black and white
mikan [2k\]: What does synergize mean?
]
;W[hc]WL[3934.655]C[VladI [5k\]: xaero окей кэп это игроки
siaro: found 3 pro games with lower left position
Baikonur [-\]: to play well together
nublet: synergize means to resonate coherently
NorthWind [7k\]: these pro games are just like ours; except they put the stones in different places ;-D
Iciac [7k\]: bottle right is joseki
]
;B[df]BL[4137.779]C[StefanRadu [1d\]: Dinerchtein vs Pop. this is great..
evave [5k\]: thats more like white
IlanKeshet [7k\]: they really should make no 0.5 in komi so the game can go jigo
SoloWay [3k\]: Game 1: Christian Pop - Alexandre Dinerchtein  Game 2: Csaba Mero - Catalin Taranu  Winners of Game 1 and 2 play final Game 3
Onmyoji [3d?\]: i need to go to the toilet
]
;W[fd]WL[3912.122]
;B[gd]BL[4133.015]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: thx for telling us
StefanRadu [1d\]: whats the ocasion?
]
;W[gc]WL[3909.24]C[ksaom [1d\]: 'break fast' means 'fastest'? or 'slow'?
]
;B[cd]BL[4130.369]C[Hellhuman [2k\]: just eating in the morning :3
mikan [2k\]: Down the hall 2nd door on the right, Onmyoji
ksaom [1d\]: ok, ty
IlanKeshet [7k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: u honestly didn't know that?
Iciac [7k\]: e17
Hellhuman [2k\]: e17 
ksaom [1d\]: i know ;p
laGriso [6d\]: pues c6 es joseki kogosil, estoy fatal de lo mio
Kayres [8k\]: onmyoji knows everything.
nublet: [31k\]: Seems like white gets a bad result if he plays E17, but what else can he do here?
sloppyplay [13k\]: do your count first you go toilet, onmyoji;P
Iciac [7k\]: I wish I spoke spanish...
Fishtank [5k\]: breakfast is a little irony of his i'm guessing
]
;W[ec]WL[3849.399]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: no no thats the executive box
]
;B[cc]BL[4126.739]C[mof [4d?\]: I hope breakfast has had his djetski malako today. He needs energy to think.
Iciac [7k\]: Breakfast is the most important meal of the day!
Fishtank [5k\]: DINERchtein -> breakfast
Kayres [8k\]: hahaha
]
;W[qf]WL[3826.137]C[Begon [2k\]: what the respetive level of the payers ?
Hellhuman [2k\]: 3p,7d
IlanKeshet [7k\]: = better then us
Begon [2k\]: ok thanks
Hellhuman [2k\]: next game, 6d 5p
nublet: breakfast is about 2 stones stronger than solaris
Hellhuman [2k\]: and final
Hellhuman [2k\]: 7d 5p
Hellhuman [2k\]: no @nublet
sloppyplay [13k\]: *do your count first before you go toilet, onmyoji;P
Hellhuman [2k\]: pop winning this :D
nidza92 [-\]: they are equal, solaris won last time
Fishtank [5k\]: based on what nublet
Iciac [7k\]: r11?
Footprints [4k\]: based on r11?
Javaness [-\]: just simple keima  then R13
nublet: [31k\]: Based on my expert knowledge, Fishtank
Orandajinn [2k?\]: solaris could become pro, but he decided to become soccer pro instead
VladI [5k\]: Для русско язычных игроков создан клон в русской комнате Ingtar
evave [5k\]: o17  seems good to me
Fishtank [5k\]: oh it's you, never mind
Javaness [-\]: white GoR is 2737 black GoR is 2684
IlanKeshet [7k\]: wow so far game looks very close
MilanChe [-\]: solaris is a film by tarkovski, nice one
nublet: [31k\]: is 100 points about a stone?
Oloril [1k\]: So white is more gorey than black?
evave [5k\]: somehow c9  looks good now
Iciac [7k\]: Look at the picture, Oloril.
nublet: [31k\]: somehow H17 did not turn out well for white
IlanKeshet [7k\]: why not?
NorthWind [7k\]: so far conventional. still waiting for the enigmatic pro move
IlanKeshet [7k\]: score is about equal right now
CLaser [13k\]: why japon rule  I think chinese rule is better than japon rule
evave [5k\]: its kind of not so equal
evave [5k\]: feel b has more cash
coldnight [1k\]: I like this white 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: there is 6.5 komi remember
nidza92 [-\]: this will be very boring games, as all w's games are
IlanKeshet [7k\]: so game is quite equal right now
nidza92 [-\]: game*
Onmyoji [3d?\]: yes w is peaceful
coldnight [1k\]: I still like white more
nublet: [31k\]: It takes only one player to make a game exciting
]
;B[nc]BL[3815.707]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: w is breakfast so u gotta like w more
Iciac [7k\]: s16 r13 
]
;W[rd]WL[3812.438]C[Onmyoji [3d?\]: omg
evanj [2d\]: i just ate breakfast
coldnight [1k\]: no I like white result around c3  
]
;B[jp]BL[3789.774]C[mof [4d?\]: but good for black too coldnight
Javaness [-\]: interesting plan
evave [5k\]: bang
evave [5k\]: :)
mof [4d?\]: black got to live on w's side easily
NorthWind [7k\]: aha ! a challenge
shaula [2k\]: S16 really feels like a slow move
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ignore and take corner?\\
Footprints [4k\]: nice
fab [-\]: K4 feels strange, reducing a non-existant thirdline moyo ?
evave [5k\]: ignore is too big
nublet: [31k\]: Can't ignore this
laGriso [6d\]: I wouldnt ignore that
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: he plans on building a mighty moyo!
evave [5k\]: what moyo?
Hellhuman [2k\]: who?^^
fab [-\]: he wants the ladder after black R12 ?
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: plans
IlanKeshet [7k\]: lol
Kayres [8k\]: where?
coldnight [1k\]: r13  joseki
evave [5k\]: what laddere?
Komachi [2k\]: M 17?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: what stone?
Onmyoji [3d?\]: ko
Hellhuman [2k\]: jigo
yakotaki [1k\]: seki
evave [5k\]: what ko?
Kayres [8k\]: seki
Iciac [7k\]: seki
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: tripple ko
coldnight [1k\]: full board seki
Hellhuman [2k\]: semiai
Footprints [4k\]: k4 ladder breaker
IlanKeshet [7k\]: LOL
mof [4d?\]: black is busy
IlanKeshet [7k\]: its almost yose 
yakotaki [1k\]: dame
Kayres [8k\]: it IS  yose
evave [5k\]: h3 ?
mof [4d?\]: this is interesting for he would have liked perhaps to press l3 and o3 down in another way
Manpuku [8k\]: damezumari!
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: the strongest pros start yose on move 1
mof [4d?\]: and then get r12 in
IlanKeshet [7k\]: yes yose every move
mof [4d?\]: but it is difficult to play everywhere at once :)
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: lol
evanj [2d\]: not if you break out the really big stones
Onmyoji [3d?\]: why isnt w moving?
Fishtank [5k\]: check his pulse
Karcusrd [7k\]: is solaris cheating by looking at that pro goban
evanj [2d\]: it's just a photo, onmyoji, he's not staring at you
Footprints [4k\]: w froze in fear 0_0
NorthWind [7k\]: h3 , see if he wants to play k3
rippeter: he went to the toilet too
Onmyoji [3d?\]: lol
Kayres [8k\]: b + res
shaula [2k\]: because the flow of the game will change depending on white's move here
Kayres [8k\]: k4 too much
evave [5k\]: o5 
mof [4d?\]: please, give him some coffee
]
;W[kp]WL[3574.329]C[nublet: [31k\]: How can black hope to build a moyo when all his stones are low?
xxdragon [12k\]: nice
]
;B[jo]BL[3782.026]C[Iciac [7k\]: How can you have your pudding if you don't eat your meat!?!
holynec [?\]: good question!
IlanKeshet [7k\]: nublet, ur 31k stay quiet
Kayres [8k\]: why
Kayres [8k\]: ?!
nublet: [31k\]: He's envious of my 31k prowess
evave [5k\]: i feel he is
kew [1k\]: llan, dun be so mean
nomind [3k\]: nublet is making the game clear for under 30k audience
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ... i was joking
laGriso [6d\]: k3?
Kayres [8k\]: very funny
kew [1k\]: u are just only 7k and im 1k
IlanKeshet [7k\]: he isn't 31k obviously...
rippeter: what is the bioyomi ?
shaula [2k\]: maybe 32k?
Onmyoji [3d?\]: u become 31k after 9p
IlanKeshet [7k\]: aaah u restart
hiss [-\]: l5 or k3 ?
Kayres [8k\]: xd
kew [1k\]: ya
kew [1k\]: haha
Orandajinn [2k?\]: 31000 rating
nublet: [31k\]: integer overflow
Iciac [7k\]: r11
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 9,000 rating is best
]
;W[qc]WL[3431.621]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: sorry... 9,001 is best
mof [4d?\]: mm, think corner is very big here
coldnight [1k\]: :[31k\]:[30k\]:[29k\]:[28k\]:[27k\]:[26k\]:[25k\] :k5  is a tripple ladder breaker
mof [4d?\]: now w can play freely on the outside
evave [5k\]:  l17 
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: l17 is 5k move
mof [4d?\]: so black seems to have only endgame left on the right side
IlanKeshet [7k\]: k4 seems painful
nublet: [31k\]: breakfast goes for territory while weakening opponent's group. his usual style.
IlanKeshet [7k\]: corner taken!
NorthWind [7k\]: may have to answer that unless he wants W L17 ?
]
;B[jq]BL[3717.383]C[Kayres [8k\]: ooha
IlanKeshet [7k\]: and the attack begins
Orandajinn [2k?\]: HAHA
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: Oooo ahaaaa
Orandajinn [2k?\]: black is cool
evave [5k\]: what attack?
mof [4d?\]: nice, we do get to see some fights
]
;W[kc]WL[3394.504]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: yes what attack...
Iciac [7k\]: Fisticuffs
Kayres [8k\]: wow
NorthWind [7k\]: :)
mof [4d?\]: it started off a little too peacefully
Kayres [8k\]: f3 now
IlanKeshet [7k\]: f3 too deep
coldnight [1k\]: a19  next
IlanKeshet [7k\]: f2 good
nublet: [31k\]: breakfast attacks from a distance
evave [5k\]: b4 ?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: f2 is the move
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: f2 is uselss
Orandajinn [2k?\]: d5
]
;B[fb]BL[3650.701]C[hiss [-\]: is k3 that poweful?
coldnight [1k\]: :[31p\] : R2 next
]
;W[eb]WL[3390.308]
;B[fe]BL[3647.407]
;W[ed]WL[3389.051]C[Katsumi1 [20k?\]: L5
siaro: if k3 gets down to k1, game over
Iciac [7k\]: Blitz!
Javaness [-\]: *\\o/* Go Papapopica Grande *\\o/*
mof [4d?\]: <o16q16> guys, what about us?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: f2 it
nublet: [31k\]: black dares w to spend another stone trying to kill O16 group
Iciac [7k\]: white looks better here I think
]
;B[ko]BL[3589.913]C[hiss [-\]: who first gets k19 wins?
mof [4d?\]: but outside is black :o
nublet: [31k\]: b is really bent on making that moyo
quup [1d\]: white does have efficient attack moves for top right... for example p14
mof [4d?\]: yeah he sure is
Iciac [7k\]: k3 group looks like 20k moves :P
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: I guessed right
holynec [?\]: [32k\]: looks even.
evave [5k\]: what moyo?
NorthWind [7k\]: B will have 2 groups running for life soon
IlanKeshet [7k\]: [over9000k\]: totally eve
nublet: [31k\]: so far white tenukied twice here, in response to black K3 and black K5
coldnight [1k\]: HAHAHAGAGA
evave [5k\]: r8 
quup [1d\]: k5 isnt goign to be in trouble
map [12k\]: r10
mof [4d?\]: w should live everywhere
evave [5k\]: o15 
hiss [-\]: now k10 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: f2 coming up next move..
quup [1d\]: o5 is a kinda want move
mof [4d?\]: so w can afford another group probably right inside the moyo
Iciac [7k\]: Black has some nice influence ove the left centre
krucafuks [5d\]: o13?
coldnight [1k\]: : [over9000k\]: I am almost suffocating from laughter
nublet: [31k\]: does w need to respond here, and what's the best way to reduce black's moyo? strong players please answer
IlanKeshet [7k\]: What??? over 9000?
Javaness [-\]: cristian gabriel papapopica grande is plotting a giant moyo
co0lzr [18k?\]: net
rippeter: black is clearly ahead by about 57.5
Iciac [7k\]: Excellent name
Komachi [2k\]: C 12?
Fishtank [5k\]: good estimate
rippeter: m4 ios best here
mof [4d?\]: it is normal to answer
mof [4d?\]: to remove future sente
Kayres [8k\]: l2
map [12k\]: or d11?
mof [4d?\]: but in this case perhaps not
Iciac [7k\]: l2 m4
]
;W[op]WL[3171.841]C[Kayres [8k\]: m3
Onmyoji [3d?\]: lol
Iciac [7k\]: nice :)
IlanKeshet [7k\]: wheres my f2 when i need it
Kayres [8k\]: u dont :P
nomind [3k\]: nobody could guess the move...
nublet: [31k\]: f2 looks completely uninteresting
Onmyoji [3d?\]: maybe its a misclick
Kayres [8k\]: :D
Kayres [8k\]: clear miss
mof [4d?\]: it is malako powah :o
IlanKeshet [7k\]: f2 makes eye shape and attacks w eye shape
IlanKeshet [7k\]: why not/\\
Iciac [7k\]: White's safe in the corner - b4 in sente
Kayres [8k\]: b2 group is alive because of b4
mysteries [2k\]: avoiding having a weak grouop
DerWitt [1k\]: as long as w has b4 f2 is useless
nublet: [31k\]: b f2 here would be contrary to everything b has done up to this point
Kayres [8k\]: y
StefanRadu [1d\]: what the ocasion of this game?
quup [1d\]: f2 just forces w to take the b stone at b3, which he'd like to do anyway
mysteries [2k\]: bad aji around C15
Iciac [7k\]: It's a breakfast match, Stefan
IlanKeshet [7k\]: lol didn't notice that the stone b4 wasnt there
evave [5k\]: slowwwww
IlanKeshet [7k\]: srry
evave [5k\]: toooooooo slooooooooowwwwwww
siaro: what if b b4 b4 w
Iciac [7k\]: lol
xxdragon [12k\]: are they playing on kgs platform
mof [4d?\]: evave wants action :)
Kayres [8k\]: p3?
bolbi [-\]: yes xxdragon
Valdano [3d\]: T BIDON DINERSCHTEIN ROUYA
xxdragon [12k\]: oh
Javaness [-\]: left side so big
xxdragon [12k\]: thx
evave [5k\]: no i want speed
Manpuku [8k\]: C13?
quup [1d\]: b4 may become sente for b if things continue like they have so far
IlanKeshet [7k\]: u have a cool name ian
evave [5k\]: b r11 
apolodor: e9
Iciac [7k\]: r10, however it's none forcing
quup [1d\]: take q3
mof [4d?\]: r10 might well be too far
]
;B[qr]BL[3336.142]C[evave [5k\]: whoaa
spider451 [2k\]: are the top b sones realy ok?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: no
Javaness [-\]: keima is a happy shape
spider451 [2k\]: lol
Iciac [7k\]: They're scared and lonely
Javaness [-\]: hard to kill keima
mof [4d?\]: but a black move there is ok, since it unloads pressure on q16
quup [1d\]: top right is not heavy
mof [4d?\]: i.e. area around q16 becomes smaller for w
DerWitt [1k\]: b tenukied twice upper right, so must get something here
nublet: [31k\]: it's just two stones for now; i think it would be white's mistake to spend any more moves trying to kill them (because a kill is not guaranteed)
Fishtank [5k\]: stop trolling
MilanChe [-\]: b has strong influence in center
mysteries [2k\]: this looks like an end-game move to me: a move around R9 offers potential support to O17
Kickchon [12k?\]: what kind of game is this? some special event ?
Hellhuman [2k\]: tournament
IlanKeshet [7k\]: breakfast game
feature [-\]: hi hellhuman
Kanin [-\]: pooooooooooooooooooooooooooooop
Javaness [-\]: fujitsu qyalifier
Hellhuman [2k\]: hi feature
Kickchon [12k?\]: well breakfast is long time over ilan :o
IlanKeshet [7k\]: get some oj juce, and cereal and ur good to go
quup [1d\]: so q3 and tenuki?
feature [-\]: is this the game you advertiesed java?
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: I just played a whole game andy the played 1 move...
quup [1d\]: but w will play q5...
Javaness [-\]: yes
nidza92 [-\]: what about catalin's game
feature [-\]: oki thanks
Nomadic [?\]: some action is coming
Javaness [-\]: maybe Csaba will play Catalin offline?
Onmyoji [3d?\]: are they really going to use all that time?
Kanin [-\]: I was cheering for Pop, not saying something inapropriate....
Iciac [7k\]: q3?
co0lzr [18k?\]: u belogo rubashka modna9 a u 4ernogo net
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i really like catalins games
IlanKeshet [7k\]: and his reviews of his games are inspiring
Fishtank [5k\]: catalin ownz
mof [4d?\]: yeah, I do too, have them for breakfast
territov: these guys know how to take their sweet time
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ...
Iciac [7k\]: They have sweet time
IlanKeshet [7k\]: look at the clock
Clare [1d\]: who is solaris?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: why finish the game in 10 minutes when u got that much time
quup [1d\]: christian pop
Bloch [8k\]: yeah
XY0908 [-\]: What would you play here, Java?
Bloch [8k\]: is that a real name?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: me?
feature [-\]: me?
Onmyoji [3d?\]: me?
nandaka [-\]: normally: q5 r5 q3 r4 tenuki
Iciac [7k\]: me?
Bloch [8k\]: Christian pop?
Javaness [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?cristianpop
IlanKeshet [7k\]: you?
co0lzr [18k?\]: me?
quup [1d\]: see his info, it's right there
Kayres [8k\]: i am yu
Javaness [-\]: you mispell his name
fangpiwang [2d?\]: breakfast + pop = rice crispies
map [12k\]: Cristian
MilanChe [-\]: popeye
Kayres [8k\]: christian tissier
Bloch [8k\]: I see
feature [-\]: solaris is pop
feature [-\]: ?
nandaka [-\]: So is W worried? e.g. if W q5 , B p5 ???
map [12k\]: romanian name
Iciac [7k\]: r2 is a nice move
quup [1d\]: nandaka: it's an obvious move, so one should be most careful about them
nandaka [-\]: R2 is slow
]
;W[kr]WL[2781.812]C[XY0908 [-\]: Actually if W plays at Q5, B can R4 to get sente, no?
co0lzr [18k?\]: so boring
nandaka [-\]: what do you mean?
nandaka [-\]: no
nandaka [-\]: aha L2??
Clare [1d\]: sensei said christian is one of the strongest player in europe
quup [1d\]: the value of a forcing move relies solely on if and how it forces... so if it doesn't, it's a big waste of move
evave [5k\]: r11 
Javaness [-\]: cristian, no h
Sgarobo [6k\]: why b r4 is sente?
XY0908 [-\]: Because W should answer?
Kayres [8k\]: why?
Onmyoji [3d?\]: l2 pro move
XY0908 [-\]: Then, B can tenuki.
Javaness [-\]: I want to play F6
Bloch [8k\]: B f7
quup [1d\]: q5 r4 tenuki surely
lisaurang [4k\]: i see diferent power of white and black is very diferent
Bloch [8k\]: or f6 :-)
nandaka [-\]: quup, then it is not called a forcing move.
lisaurang [4k\]: w have any potensiality
Sgarobo [6k\]: what if white does not answer to b r4?
quup [1d\]: nandaka: and q5 is a forcing move, 100% ?
lolux [18k\]: k2
nandaka [-\]: yes
nublet: [31k\]: how about f6
nandaka [-\]: In pro games, I have never seen another answer than R5
quup [1d\]: but that doesn't mean b wouldn't have cooked some elaborate plot in answer to q5 :)
StefanRadu [1d\]: Pop always wins against Dinerchtein^^
SinFa [7k?\]: gosh play a move plz~~
Sgarobo [6k\]: is there anybody willing to explain why b r4 is sente after w q5?
Kayres [8k\]: :D
Kayres [8k\]: the one who said it could
XY0908 [-\]: If I knew the answer, I wouldn't be doing Graphic Art for living.
Javaness [-\]: tell us the who has the pretiest stones XY0908
quup [1d\]: maybe l2 has some effect on b4
mof [4d?\]: certainly seems as if there is a move missing on the right side
MilanChe [-\]: f6
nandaka [-\]: This is standard (among pros): q5 r5 q3 r4 
mof [4d?\]: but maybe black will try something with his moyo
Sgarobo [6k\]: so, saying Actually if W plays at Q5, B can R4 to get sente, no? just to write something on board?
XY0908 [-\]: nandaka, yes, you are right.
goth [?\]: pretiest stones are diamonds,any girl would tell you this
]
;B[nf]BL[2918.48]C[nublet: [31k\]: i wonder why w played L2 first
quup [1d\]: standard sequences have the downside of being predictable
xxdragon [12k\]: oh
Baikonur [-\]: any fool kno dat
nandaka [-\]: o14 is a standard shape here (among pros)
coldnight [1k\]: ok now that we are finisied with a 43 moves long joseki time to start the game
spider451 [2k\]: looks nice
mof [4d?\]: that was interesting
XY0908 [-\]: Sgarobo, I think I asked that was a question, not as an answer...
spider451 [2k\]: makes potential moyo bigger?
nublet: [31k\]: what moyo can he hope to make with a weak group on the board...
Meepy [-\]: g'morning extra-why
nandaka [-\]: aims at q13 to make moyo and q14 to make eyes
Curiot [1d\]: I would play at P6
gisel [2d\]: what is this game? some special event?
nublet: [31k\]: What would P6 accomplish?
Onmyoji [3d?\]: next move at about 39
coldnight [1k\]: it kills h17 
mof [4d?\]: it is for the title go king of the steppes
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: it would not accomplishmuch apart from confusing the opponent
Orandajinn [2k?\]: muuuwuuwueaufuw
Bloch [8k\]: q17
nandaka [-\]: A good move to counter q13 and q14 would be q13 
nandaka [-\]: But that is thinking too locally.
quup [1d\]: how about q11
mof [4d?\]: black k16 then?
mof [4d?\]: maybe w needs close to 2 moves here?
Curiot [1d\]: P6 moves to the center by breaking a possible enclosure
nandaka [-\]: I can never predict what Alexandre will play.
gisel [2d\]: maybe d10?
nublet: [31k\]: I say go all out and O12 for white
mof [4d?\]: :D
Orandajinn [2k?\]: kaulo
mof [4d?\]: yeah and for some wild fighting
nublet: [31k\]: but that's not breakfast style
quup [1d\]: yeah o12 looks nice, only if L5 was white :)
goth [?\]: D10?
nandaka [-\]: No, Breakfast will definitely not to something airy or spacy. It is always very concrete.
]
;W[dh]WL[2451.537]C[goth [?\]: close
Gelya [5k\]: who is solaris?
quup [1d\]: look in his info
jimmypap [?\]: idd
Curiot [1d\]: Christian Pop?
holynec [?\]: WHO GOnna win!
jimmypap [?\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?cristianpop = solaris
Gelya [5k\]: thanks
mof [4d?\]: so what does black do here?
evave [5k\]: e11 
mof [4d?\]: that white has many good moves...
coldnight [1k\]: IMMA GANNA WINNA
map [12k\]: I think they are both reading the 99-th move... of the 99-th variation...
Iciac [7k\]: f11
holynec [?\]: f13
coldnight [1k\]: dont you guys get it ,it is still all joseki
Gelya [5k\]: c13 
quup [1d\]: c14, slow but needed
DerWitt [1k\]: what game is this one?
wyjus: c14 
DerWitt [1k\]: tournament?
map [12k\]: c13
mof [4d?\]: I think around c14 too
evave [5k\]: its not about killing that stone .. its abt building moyo while not kiling it
Kayres [8k\]: while pretending to kill it
nandaka [-\]: The shape is: d10 - but it seems pretty useless here
DerWitt [1k\]: game looks even
JohnMcLane [4k\]: Amical game but not cool 
nublet: B is searching for an alternative move here because the obvious reply does not leave him enough ko threats for the last half point ko in yose.
Gelya [5k\]: you forget [31k\] =))
Kayres [8k\]: you sure?
Iciac [7k\]: obvious reply works to white's reading, too :P
]
;B[db]BL[2610.782]C[coldnight [1k\]: Its the First round game of the European Fujitsu Cau
Curiot [1d\]: I remember that Katarin Taranu and Solaris studied together as insei in Japan, Taranu became a pro, solaris somehow gave up and went back to home to play as a amateur up until now
evave [5k\]: lol?
MomoHamed [7k\]: whats b rank?
coldnight [1k\]: Cup*
Kayres [8k\]: woo nice
Gelya [5k\]: 7d europe
map [12k\]: have you seen the komi?
boxfresh [1d\]: Catalin
Curiot [1d\]: thx
boxfresh [1d\]: np
quup [1d\]: curiot: "until now" ? pop is still not a pro
Komachi [2k\]: Komi = 6.5.
map [12k\]: is it ususal for a pro game?
Onmyoji [4d?\]: i count b+50.5
map [12k\]: usual*
nandaka [-\]: D18 is interesting because it aims at e19 and and damezumari on e16 
bistrogo [3d\]: Onmyoji is a SE adict
Kayres [8k\]: onmyoji is se
lolux [18k\]:  Q7
nublet: [31k\]: motivation plays a huge rule in improvement. Once that's gone, your game stagnates.
Gelya [5k\]: Onmyoji is SE-bot
nublet: [31k\]: err, role
Hellhuman [2k\]: nublet, you think its funny to put 31k behind your name?
nandaka [-\]: but if W plays e19 , it was kikashi - he was forced, as a pro that is unbearable
kampaik45 [-\]: 31k
kampaik45 [-\]: @@
nublet: [31k\]: Do you find my assessment of my rank inaccurate?
mof [4d?\]: so he would have to throw himself on the sword
Kayres [8k\]: yup.
GooGooGoo [20k\]: :D
nandaka [-\]: So W can play g18, but that also seems a little forced.... 
Mori [1d\]: actually, you should be 32k, nublet
]
;W[gb]WL[2247.882]C[Stupidness [3k\]: what solaris's rank?
xxdragon [12k\]: 7d
nomind [3k\]: here comes the empty triangle
Stupidness [3k\]: why no handi?
Hellhuman [2k\]: why handi?
Stupidness [3k\]: 7d.. 3p..?
xxdragon [12k\]: haha
JimmyJazz [1k\]: tournament rules probably
nublet: [31k\]: nandaka, you seemed to have arrived at the right answer, but your logic eludes me
Kanin [-\]: solaris 2 strong
Gelya [5k\]: a special match
quup [1d\]: egf 7d not the same as kgs 7d
Stupidness [3k\]: whats that mach about?
nublet: [31k\]: I think G18 is more for eye shape than anything else
Hellhuman [2k\]: egf 7d more like kgs 8.5d
Stupidness [3k\]: tournament?
Hellhuman [2k\]: :D
ZorroR [2k\]: 31k ?
nublet: [31k\]: 2k?
ZorroR [2k\]: lol
JimmyJazz [1k\]: breakfast [3p\]: Fujitsu cup, European preliminary, game1
Burton [7k\]: I believe that it is a demonstration game by breakfast
SGNewbie [4k\]: how many different "GO" softwres are there out there? i heard of panda go.. what else ??
Kayres [8k\]: kgs
ZorroR [2k\]: f13 ?
Hellhuman [2k\]: oro
Burton [7k\]: oops sorry
SGNewbie [4k\]: oro? which are the more popular ones
Hellhuman [2k\]: why does everybody think 3p is thaaaaat strong ? there isnt a big difference nowadays between low pros and top amas i guess
ermoy [4k?\]: nublet is uncified
Stupidness [3k\]: does pro players make money?
Onmyoji [4d?\]: lol
Orandajinn [2k?\]: yes they dos
Kayres [8k\]: e
ermoy [4k?\]: unclassified nublet
kampaik45 [-\]: nublet: [31k\] not nublet [31k\]
kampaik45 [-\]: ^^
quup [1d\]: moneys they makes
mof [4d?\]: yeah 3ps is peanuts 1£ it should be
]
;B[dj]BL[2409.159]C[Stupidness [3k\]: by winning tournaments?
nomind [3k\]: i think top amatuers are as strong as top pro btw
nandaka [-\]: so B played the shape move
]
;W[fh]WL[2219.788]C[evave [5k\]: afterr2  and d18  i m feeling its yose time
nublet: [31k\]: If I were a troll I'd mention that breakfast's pro rank is honorary.
nandaka [-\]: W is aiming at e14 
Javaness [-\]: the chase is on
]
;B[cf]BL[2376.093]C[evave [5k\]: why not d15 ?
nandaka [-\]: The 1p was honorary, but the 3p is based on results.
holynec [?\]: very strong !! who said c14
Baikonur [-\]: nublet, so in essence: "w not a real pro"?
quup [1d\]: a lot of people did
nublet: [31k\]: I did not quite say that, Baikonur.
nandaka [-\]: if D15, W will play c13 immediately
holynec [?\]: g14
nublet: [31k\]:  :)
DerWitt [1k\]: c14 more pressure on d12
nomind [3k\]: whats a real pro
Baikonur [-\]: a classic kibitz line
efwff: why not d15?
nomind [3k\]: i didnt know you could be a fake pro
holynec [?\]: white next move!
ermoy [4k?\]: honarable always means able
Curiot [1d\]: about 2 weeks ago, a south korean 17 years old amateur beat Korean No. 1 Pro
Baikonur [-\]: you can't spell honorable without able
Stupidness [3k\]: guyz.. hypoteticly
nomind [3k\]: you are talking about lee chang hos defeat?
Stupidness [3k\]: why cant i beat 3d with no handi?
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: who is Korean number 1 pro these days?
Medice [5d?\]: holynec, preventing black r12 perhaps?
ermoy [4k?\]: honourable
holynec [?\]:  did he get promoted to 9p curiot?
kurawaitai: oie
kurawaitai: zueira
kurawaitai: KKK
Stupidness [3k\]: <_<
]
;W[gg]WL[2076.39]C[kurawaitai: solaris is ?
Medice [5d?\]: nah, guess not
ermoy [4k?\]: who is unable
Curiot [1d\]: Lee Changho is No. 1 Pro in Korea at present
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: thx
holynec [?\]: this allows for a cut.
Stupidness [3k\]: Whats wrong with E14?
holynec [?\]: at e14!
Manpuku [8k\]: f14
DerWitt [1k\]: e14 hurts d12
nublet: [31k\]: They should have "Highlander" but with go instead of swords.
Stupidness [3k\]: oh
Fishtank [5k\]: this is standard akuri to prevent the severe osuru-hakken of black through hurumi towards L17
kurawaitai: k16
Stupidness [3k\]: thats why the c14 is there?
nublet: [31k\]: So if you beat 9p you get their skills.
goth [?\]: dienerstein is EGF no. 6 european player
quup [1d\]: it's like an ukemi with a nyoi-bo
goth [?\]: pop is no. 13
SGNewbie [4k\]: G13?
Fishtank [5k\]: yeah
Kayres [8k\]: similar to a kote gaeshi after some haya suburis
Manpuku [8k\]: g14 seems ok too
Fishtank [5k\]: yeah but without the okuru-ippen
Khimera [9k\]: woah, breakfast is so serious
Kayres [8k\]: and no nikkyo ;)
DerWitt [1k\]: w wants to attack o14
quup [1d\]: ippon zeoi ?
Iciac [7k\]: white does good in disrupting black's influence
TeeSushi [3d\]: go popic go popic
DerWitt [1k\]: q17
Medice [5d?\]: g14 or r12, my understanding..
k1r4 [-\]: ...
Moin9 [5k\]: hmm one big area is left.--
quup [1d\]: i think around e14 b doesnt have any good move, so he should just forget the 2 stones
evave [5k\]: e15 
DerWitt [1k\]: r12 looks tempting but maybe w wants to attack o14 stone
Medice [5d?\]: then sabaki
Orandajinn [2k?\]: omg u sed ass
nublet: [31k\]: I was looking at r12 too...
blahhhh: what is sabaki?
Medice [5d?\]: nublet, stop that already
Kayres [8k\]: turn
]
;B[lc]BL[2127.615]C[nublet: why do you hate me...
Fishtank [5k\]: now see what you did :(
Onmyoji [4d?\]: admin removed nublets rank?
Onmyoji [4d?\]: why?
Orandajinn [2k?\]: look slike it
nandaka [-\]: I was thinking of L16
IlanKeshet [7k\]: anybody here played on pandanet before?
]
;W[kd]WL[2050.533]C[nublet: deranked :(
quup [1d\]: ko shape maybe
nandaka [-\]: Now it is too easy for W
]
;B[qh]BL[2108.423]C[Orandajinn [2k?\]: if white wins he is lucky
nublet: ah good, there's r12
quup [1d\]: dunno, L16 is not very fast
map [12k\]: pandanet - strong ranks
DerWitt [1k\]: this game looks bad for w
Onmyoji [4d?\]: pandanet suck
IlanKeshet [7k\]: nobody ever talks on pandanet
IlanKeshet [7k\]: all bots
nandaka [-\]: But with W e15 everything becomes territory
Kayres [8k\]: p5 biiiiiiiiiig
TeeSushi [3d\]: i like the black position :)
nublet: r12 was big
Nomadic [?\]: anyone watching title match?
holynec [?\]: m17 strong move
map [12k\]: what's wrong with panda?
quup [1d\]: w is pretty close to overconcentration on the upper side. look how open the right edge has been all this time
Moin9 [5k\]: panda is not so good like Kgs
Stevenson [1k\]: q13 ?
Kayres [8k\]: whynot
Losing [1k\]: pandanet a go server tho, as opposed to a kibitz one
lolux [18k\]: Q12
IlanKeshet [7k\]: "kibitz one"
IlanKeshet [7k\]: what a load of nonsense
]
;W[on]WL[1917.959]C[Stevenson [1k\]: q12 is a thank you move
nandaka [-\]: So one reason W did not play q5 r5 q3 r4 sequence might be, because W can now play r7 
Kayres [8k\]: yeaaah i knew this move :D
Manpuku [8k\]: r9?
]
;B[po]BL[2085.279]C[kurawaitai: p13
Kayres [8k\]: a lot potential destroyed. painful for b
quup [1d\]: but it did cost w some points
nandaka [-\]: I don't like Q5 at all - more interesting at P5
Medice [5d?\]: q5 is thick
quup [1d\]: b got some nice points, d18 in sente and now q5
Pendiam [23k?\]: milanmilan said breakfast style is ugly
goth [?\]: w prepares to attack b heavy stones at k3
Curiot [1d\]: Q5 looks very amateurish move
Moin9 [5k\]: but q5 doe not leave any wek cutiing points
nandaka [-\]: Yes, breakfast's style is ugly, but quite efficient.
quup [1d\]: n6
Medice [5d?\]: but perhaps p5 slightly better, yes, perhaps
JimmyJazz [1k\]: ugly but effective?
a1h1 [1k\]: woot
a1h1 [1k\]: theres nothing wrong with q5
Iciac [7k\]: All professional moves look like 30k moves that have been chopped up in a blender and separated from the wrong ones
Losing [1k\]: I'd rather say boring but effective
]
;W[nl]WL[1819.56]C[Sgarobo [6k\]: was playble r9 instead of q5?
Kayres [8k\]: ouuuuuuuch
Baikonur [-\]: can an amateur call anything amateurish?
Medice [5d?\]: r9 would seem too low
]
;B[pl]BL[2063.189]C[DerWitt [1k\]: don't know p5 and w defends the cut at  n6
Medice [5d?\]: and not playing q5 leaves white with forcing moves here
DerWitt [1k\]: ok now w must get something 
kurawaitai: need m5?
Sgarobo [6k\]: tx :)
nandaka [-\]: W wants to isolate k5 
DerWitt [1k\]: otherwise game over
Onmyoji [4d?\]: ko
Draena [15k\]: sa veux dire quoi le "p" dans le rang 3p ?
Lolilol [1d\]: H3?
WBStones [23k\]: é... pelo jeito você não teria jogado em Q%
quup [1d\]: is w thick enough to make a severe attack on k5 ?
Lolilol [1d\]: prout!
nublet: but how to attack k5?
Dogen [5k\]: Is the the game for the Fujitsu cup?
bistrogo [3d\]: p=pro
ForceElite [2k\]: 3 dan pro
dominou [4k?\]: p = pro
Draena [15k\]: okii ty
DerWitt [1k\]: hard to attack k5
JimmyJazz [1k\]: yes, Dogen
Pendiam [23k?\]: how strong is solaris ?
Draena [15k\]: sa fai du 9 dan amateur sa ?
Stevenson [1k\]: k5 is what you call heavy
Curiot [1d\]: h4 could be a point to attack?
goth [?\]: no, but could trade for some territory
nublet: i'm trying hard but I can't find a good move for white here
dominou [4k?\]: pas d'équivalence ca sert a rien
nandaka [-\]: e.g. h4 or h3 
Medice [5d?\]: it's heavy but white must find a way to benefit from it
Baikonur [-\]: Pendiam, strong enough
Kayres [8k\]: and o14 is what you call light
kurawaitai: h3
DerWitt [1k\]: k5 has space to run
mysteries [2k\]: R10
Medice [5d?\]: black gets a lot of cash on right side here
IlanKeshet [7k\]: w soon will attack k5
lolux [18k\]: P13
quup [1d\]: k5 isnt too heavy, it has no defects and ample running space
Pendiam [23k?\]: Baikonur, what is his level use to be?
Draena [15k\]: pourtant il a pas l'air si fort ^^
spider451 [2k\]: b is making alot of cash 
Kayres [8k\]: k5 has f2 and can run
Baikonur [-\]: his rank is 7 dan EGF, but as it's the highest rank for european amateur, it doesn't set an upper limit
Stevenson [1k\]: e6 ?
paar [4k\]: w can't attack k5 effectively, unless combined with an attack on the upper right, which seems tricky to manage
Dogen [5k\]: H3 now?
dominou [4k?\]: c'est que le début du chuban attend un peu ^^
kurawaitai: yes
lolux [18k\]: P13
Draena [15k\]: ouai ^^
kurawaitai: if not h3  b get center + small buttom
Pendiam [23k?\]: d7 is reasonable here
kurawaitai: 0o
IlanKeshet [7k\]: d7 isn't a 23k move
Pendiam [23k?\]: my teacher told me
kurawaitai: d7 looks good
MilanChe [-\]: rather 22k move
Onmyoji [4d?\]: i have seen 28k play d7
nandaka [-\]: D7 is too adventurous for breakfast
Losing [1k\]: either that or high dan move, you never know :p
nublet: what would be white's followup to d7 though?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: if u know d7 move... ur more like 1d already
a1h1 [1k\]: is there some move for white to attack top group
nomind [3k\]: 23ks dont have teachers
a1h1 [1k\]: and aim for r10
kurawaitai: d7 d6 e6
a1h1 [1k\]: around p13 perhaps
kurawaitai: well
kurawaitai: looks not so good
Sugosu [6k\]: i guess w attack now from Q or R 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: hahaha yes 23k doesn't have teacher
DiGigot [7k\]: now big move.
nandaka [-\]: Maybe W will play q12 q11 q13 r11 and thenm18 n18 m16 n17 p18 
WBStones [23k\]: g15 parece bom pro preto agora
IlanKeshet [7k\]: or maybe only had a 10 minute lesson ;p
Javaness [-\]: *\\o/* Go Popic *\\o/*
Draena [15k\]: il y'avait un 2p hier un koreen sa fesait peur la difference xD
Losing [1k\]: white will fix shape me think
kurawaitai: g15 tem um corte em e15
Medice [5d?\]: which shape?
kurawaitai: :P
Losing [1k\]: lower right one
Medice [5d?\]: no time at all for that
siaro: w needs something big
DiGigot [7k\]: attack on K5 ?
ForceElite [2k\]: ouai mais solaris est loin d etre nul
Psychee [8k\]: seems black have more territory
kurawaitai: g15 e15 e14 :(
Draena [15k\]: je sait pas j'connais pas
dominou [4k?\]: ^^ les koréens sont parfois des barbares de combat ce qui peut donner des parties a première vu de très au niveau
quup [1d\]: white should be able to wrestle some profit from the upper right still
bistrogo [3d\]: *coréens
Sugosu [6k\]: if white attacks k5 now , he feels some strange ^^
nandaka [-\]: w can also aim at q9 r9 r10 
kurawaitai: next move is a new move
dominou [4k?\]: désolé ^^
kurawaitai: Lol
bistrogo [3d\]: :)
IlanKeshet [7k\]: yes how to attack k5 and benefit is the question
Draena [15k\]: non non la il était meme pas assé offensif 
Sangreal [4k\]: plexus solaris
Stevenson [1k\]: next move is nuclear tesuji
kurawaitai: its a pro move :)
kurawaitai: like all moves
sabin [5k\]: melt black
kurawaitai: lol
DiGigot [7k\]: without B2 bomber ?
dominou [4k?\]: nex t move B5 nozuki
Pendiam [23k?\]: q12 is quite good on this situation "my teacher said"
dominou [4k?\]: lool
Onmyoji [4d?\]: i think w counting his threats for the ko
quup [1d\]: h3 looks too simple, but i dunno maybe it could be something
kurawaitai: heheh
IlanKeshet [7k\]: oooh b5 is good
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i like
bistrogo [3d\]: on va finir par parler complètement anglais si on fait pas gaffe ;)
holynec [?\]: now attack the black 4 stones!! >:O
IlanKeshet [7k\]: yes b5 very nice
Vibration [6k\]: lol kel ko ?
wanron [3k\]: k8
kurawaitai: nuclear tesuji is to extreme
Draena [15k\]: lool moi sa risque pas ^^
kurawaitai: ......
DiGigot [7k\]: moi je jouerais H4, mais bon.
Sugosu [6k\]: b5 isnt too small?
thekaiser [2d\]: go f10
IlanKeshet [7k\]: b5 gote though
Stevenson [1k\]: so why does it take him so much time?
Draena [15k\]: ouai
Javaness [-\]: Black's stones are like a fast flowing river of palinka running across the board
holynec [?\]: b5 b4?!
dominou [4k?\]: yes ^^ isn't good enough
XY0908 [-\]: From the distance, Christian looks like Jean Reno ;-)
kurawaitai: h3 gote maybe .... i think he will do a funny tesuji move
Kayres [8k\]: b5 is nothing
nublet: w must find a way to attack black's weak group
kurawaitai: :X)
Kayres [8k\]: gets e5 in sente
Medice [5d?\]: b5 is way too small
nomind [3k\]: b5 helps b
kurawaitai: white already read 65 moves
kurawaitai: ........
Pendiam [23k?\]: b5 looks like 23k move :P
dominou [4k?\]: i was joking ^^
bistrogo [3d\]: ^^ XY
Draena [15k\]: h4 parrait pas mal mais c'est trop court comme cout non ?
quup [1d\]: like a fast collapsing row of domino pieces...?
Javaness [-\]: K4 looks a bit useless :(
IlanKeshet [7k\]: no b5 looks like a 9d move
Onmyoji [4d?\]: a pro can read  100 moves in 17 seconds
Kayres [8k\]: after p6, yes
thekaiser [2d\]: l8 alors
mof [4d?\]: *fetches cattleprod* *checks for life in white*
nublet: b spent like 3 moves on k3
Amurys [-\]: Am I mistaken, or black's position seems slightly better than white's one ?
Sugosu [6k\]: maybe r10 or q10 
holynec [?\]: i can read 100 moves in 5 seconds, just might not be the right moves
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;W[km]WL[1308.384]C[Baikonur [-\]: XY, you need quite a bit of distance there :)
kurawaitai: omg
kurawaitai: :)
nomind [3k\]: hes using the rest of the time to count then?
dominou [4k?\]: ?
Manpuku [8k\]: L7???
quup [1d\]: funky
holynec [?\]: boshi
goth [?\]: w takes the hard way
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: lol
holynec [?\]: hit at the head of the stones
Dogen [5k\]: interesting
IlanKeshet [7k\]: whack
NorthWind [7k\]: hmm, I thought separating the o14 group is more urgent than attacking k5
Iciac [7k\]: nice :)
dominou [4k?\]: he may read something interesting ^^ 
WBStones [23k\]: putz
Draena [15k\]: l7 ?
Curiot [1d\]: w could lose this match , W has very little territory at present so it needs to kill some thing big\]
Iciac [7k\]: g3
Dogen [5k\]: he's going all out against those stones
nandaka [-\]: n5 
Stevenson [1k\]: this is like punch in the face
WBStones [23k\]: vai cercar K4
Vibration [6k\]: missclick
Pendiam [23k?\]: my teacher said L7 is unthinkable 
BALLZ [4k\]: rather they exclude 80 moves out of experience, and then read 20 moves in 17 sec
Vibration [6k\]: undo
BALLZ [4k\]: :P
mysteries [2k\]: W territory will expand and B will shrink.  E.g. there is F14 waiting
Dogen [5k\]: it's all or nothing
mof [4d?\]: <white> I gotta outmoyo the moyo
Dogen [5k\]: B F6 now
wanron [3k\]: j7
Kayres [8k\]: w will attack b in upper right and get moyo around l11 i think
ForceElite [2k\]: la si il tu y gagne sinon il perd 
dominou [4k?\]: like useless move by 30 kyu player ^^
Pendiam [23k?\]: white aim is to attack b top group
Draena [15k\]: c'est asser hors du commun comme coup sa c'est sur ^^
IlanKeshet [7k\]: pendiam isn't 23k
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: c'est le coup divin lol
thekaiser [2d\]: jtrouve çalogique
nublet: 23k has a strong teacher
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: =)
kurawaitai: lol
MomoHamed [7k\]: blanc fait peur sur sa photo lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: wooh nublet with a 31k
thekaiser [2d\]: noir va probablement k7 ou g4
Draena [15k\]: md'r
dominou [4k?\]: motoki dit quand un pro joue un coup lent c'est qu il y a deriière pas mal de mechanceté ^^
lolux [18k\]: K7
DiGigot [7k\]: oui, il est rose
kurawaitai: resign!!!
DiGigot [7k\]: ça fait peur
kurawaitai: jk =)
WBStones [23k\]: aaaaaaaaaaaheuaheuha
Draena [15k\]: c'est pas faux xD
holynec [?\]: 20 dollars to who guesses next move
Dogen [5k\]: B G3 could be a good move now...
kurawaitai: eu daria resign depois de l7
Pendiam [23k?\]: currently i'm still 23k on kgs
IlanKeshet [7k\]: well black will run for sure
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i think k7
kurawaitai: xD
IlanKeshet [7k\]: is where black plays here
WBStones [23k\]: se o preto nw defender o proximo move vai ser em G7
DiGigot [7k\]: g3 then run ?
WBStones [23k\]: ou g6
holynec [?\]: g5
kurawaitai: porra g7 ?
Medice [5d?\]: a little hard to predict
IlanKeshet [7k\]: g7 gets = eyes
kurawaitai: hmm
Baikonur [-\]: K7 is what i would play, so it can't be right
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 0 eyes
quup [1d\]: looks like they're still fighting whether b4 is sente and for whom
WBStones [23k\]: G7 pro branco
Iciac [7k\]: So much kibitz on one move
IlanKeshet [7k\]: k7 is what i play
Kayres [8k\]: now f2
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: h6
Kayres [8k\]: ilan :)
Iciac [7k\]: g3 is the call
IlanKeshet [7k\]: k7 or kosumi
snam [1k\]: f3 =)
Draena [15k\]: if  W kill W win maybe if B survive W loose
yin69 [5k\]: n5 ?
mysteries [2k\]: J7
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: H6
kurawaitai: o5 =)
Dogen [5k\]: K7 is a contact move; it reinforces L7, that's not good
Kayres [8k\]: =)
Baikonur [-\]: maybe J7
Footprints [4k\]: b will kill the bottom right in one move
dominou [4k?\]: ben le truc c'est qu on voit pas ce que fait ce coup, fan dirai blanc est comme dame car centre est comme désert ^^
goth [?\]: kibitz on kgs is a heaven
holynec [?\]: g5, miai with e5 or g3? :D
kurawaitai: f3 is the move
thekaiser [2d\]: if b wants complicate m7 but i don't think he will
kurawaitai: ?:)
kurawaitai: xD
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: H6
Baikonur [-\]: b needs to go somewhere with those k5 stones
DerWitt [1k\]: k7
IlanKeshet [7k\]: reinforcing l7 no problem
Draena [15k\]: ouai mais c'est pas fan' qui joue xD
DiGigot [7k\]: dominou, oui, il dirait un truc comme "L7 coup chelou, parce que imagine..."
WBStones [23k\]: L7 big problem
dominou [4k?\]: loo
IlanKeshet [7k\]: k7, then j7 and good
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: H6 pour connecter avecles autres pierres
dominou [4k?\]: lol*
WBStones [23k\]: bye bye K4 group
kurawaitai: i hate l7 stones i wana eat them all
quup [1d\]: b cant help l7 much, or if w get thicker there then move like m14 become very critical strike against b
kurawaitai: moves like l 7 makes b cry
kurawaitai: :/
matjet [2k\]: i would play g3 as black
kurawaitai: g3 is passive
map [12k\]: I guess B have to extend on the top... bottom is under pressure? - L2
kurawaitai: .....
nandaka [-\]: OK, just play f3 f4 g3 
DerWitt [1k\]: m14 nothing
kurawaitai: play f3 
thekaiser [2d\]: g5 is a possibility but w will build in the center
kurawaitai: fight style
dominou [4k?\]: ou bien noir coupe ogeima et lance un petit combat ^^ qui devrai tourner a l avantage de blanc ^^
mysteries [2k\]: g3 too slow: undercut by l2
Draena [15k\]: quelqu'un était au stage de fan a toulouse ?
MrAnana [2k\]: yep
dominou [4k?\]: nop
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: non plus^^
holynec [?\]: making center territory is hard :k
DiGigot [7k\]: what about n5 ?
a1h1 [1k\]: m14 seems good if white is thick in the center
holynec [?\]: although white can press on the top black group i suppose to enclose that side
a1h1 [1k\]: threatens o17 group and f14
Kayres [8k\]: b play tengen
thekaiser [2d\]: yeah but one stone is one stone ^^
Draena [15k\]: c'était assé bien mais je comprener mieu quand il me montré que quand il parler ^^
harlej9 [-\]: n5 ok,  but after k2 i suppose
mooooo [10k\]: who is black? how strong?
dominou [4k?\]: héhé il vous l a fait sur goban mural ou avec projecteur .
Kayres [8k\]: k10!!
dominou [4k?\]: ?
Kayres [8k\]: 7d
thekaiser [2d\]: n13 for w is excellent
lolux [18k\]: L13
quup [1d\]: look in his user info
Manpuku [8k\]: g6 too far, or?
kurawaitai: F 3 .................. :|
WBStones [23k\]: B-N5 W-H6
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: H6 est un bon coup pour connecter noir et faire vivre le grp
Clare [1d\]: breakfast weakness = 3p! = p3!
MrAnana [2k\]: même pas, juste un goban normal, on s'asseyais autour de la table :p
dominou [4k?\]: lool
Draena [15k\]: projecteur
holynec [?\]: j7?!
Hellhuman [2k\]: hm.. may someone explain l7 ?
Hellhuman [2k\]: dont get it
Amurys [-\]: ...n7 ? Hard to predict next move...
holynec [?\]: it is a boshi hellhuman
MrAnana [2k\]: ah ? on doit pas parler du même stage alors :x
holynec [?\]: you hit at the head of stones to attack them
holynec [?\]: prevent escape into center
Draena [15k\]: je pense pas ^^
Draena [15k\]: c'etait quand le tien ?
Hellhuman [2k\]: ah, it is supposed to attack blacks 4 stones?^^
nandaka [-\]: A next move at h4 is too much to take - so B has to play somewhere in that area.
MrAnana [2k\]: si je me souviens bien, vers novembre
mof [4d?\]: wake up .... black
ermoy [4k?\]: l7 to decrease terri
MrAnana [2k\]: a la MJC demoiselles
Draena [15k\]: bah si nov 09
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: H6
Javaness [-\]: le pantalon rouge c'est le Go
dominou [4k?\]: ??
NorthWind [7k\]: g5 for me
Kayres [8k\]: k9
MrAnana [2k\]: ah, bah y'avais pas de projecteur pourtant :o enfin, c'est vrai que j'ai été obligé de manquer la 2ème journée :s
Draena [15k\]: au debut on a eu droit project et ensuite cété goban sur tabl
Pendiam [23k?\]: i'm back.. ohhh.. black still keep sillent ?
thekaiser [2d\]: b is ahead on points
WBStones [23k\]: if black need an answer of W... need play at M5
Draena [15k\]: tété comen j'té ptet vu ^^
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: h6
thekaiser [2d\]: but b has more weakness
IlanKeshet [7k\]: how about g5 here for black>?
thekaiser [2d\]: g5 is playable
nandaka [-\]: W can easily play q9 r9 r10 - so the right side is not big
dominou [4k?\]: pour parler de ca peut etre une causette non ?? 
NorthWind [7k\]: h6 e6 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: how about a19 for black?
Draena [15k\]: boh le temps que sa arriv ^^
Pendiam [23k?\]: g5 is  a bit coward, my teacher said
bistrogo [3d\]: sinon faites un petit effort sur l'orthographe
Mephist0 [?\]: B g3?
Onmyoji [4d?\]: lets count
IlanKeshet [7k\]: who is ur teacher
Draena [15k\]: pui ya ke des anglais y comprenent pâ ^^
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ?
MrAnana [2k\]: Surtout vu le niveau de kibitz de cette partie ...
Onmyoji [4d?\]: i count w+16.5
thekaiser [2d\]: but they are strong players so b will play something like h5 lol
Onmyoji [4d?\]: whats ur count everyone?
Hellhuman [2k\]: ko
nandaka [-\]: tres bas
IlanKeshet [7k\]: Pendiam who is ur teacher / strength
Pendiam [23k?\]: i'm with you, onmyoji !! 16,5
Pendiam [23k?\]: my teacher is onmyoji
Iciac [7k\]: w + 3/5
Dogen [5k\]: they're taking a long time...
Losing [1k\]: Draena you'd be surprised by how many people do understand
Draena [15k\]: alors on va faire un effort sur l'orthographe ^^
Sangreal [4k\]: w 16,5 too
bistrogo [3d\]: merci:)
ForceElite [2k\]: c l'estimation qui dit sa
Javaness [-\]: no more score estimator jokes please
IlanKeshet [7k\]: why not
sabin [5k\]: added time, probabli solaris has smth to do for a bit
Draena [15k\]: sorry losing but i speak with friends french ^^
goth [?\]: key move for b, could win him the game
Sangreal [4k\]: hallo javaness
NorthWind [7k\]: g5 heads for B stones on left and makes eye space .. teabhers ? pah
Javaness [-\]: Hello
Losing [1k\]: Je disait, tu serais surpris de savoir combien de personna comprennent ce que tu dis. Mais preferes parler anglais par respect pour l'audience
thekaiser [2d\]: Gofor g7
IlanKeshet [7k\]: score estimate looks about right tough
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;B[fq]BL[1304.237]C[Onmyoji [4d?\]: :E
holynec [?\]: who said F3!!!
Iciac [7k\]: f3 wins!
holynec [?\]: someone did!1
Javaness [-\]: popic severe move
Baikonur [-\]: Java, score estimate is a joke all by itself
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i like SE though
nandaka [-\]: predicted
Draena [15k\]: lool d'accord j'aime pas trop parler anglais j'écrit que des betises et je comprend rien désolé
IlanKeshet [7k\]: now w plays b4?
Mephist0 [?\]: oh well i said g3 so i was close ;)
wanron [3k\]: f4
holynec [?\]: g3 not same!
kurawaitai: yeaa
kurawaitai: x:D
nandaka [-\]: w will play F4, g3 k2 
kurawaitai: acertei ahsiuhaiuhs
kurawaitai: =x
mooooo [10k\]: i´d try h3 now
Stevenson [1k\]: b4 is gote w cant play it
NorthWind [7k\]: now f5, never connects to left
WBStones [23k\]: phew
kurawaitai: ;))
goth [?\]: wow
WBStones [23k\]: H2 for w
Kayres [8k\]: Ilan you said f3 is too deep?
Kayres [8k\]: now tell me why :D
goth [?\]: rougher than his style till this point
Begon [2k\]: f4
IlanKeshet [7k\]: that was when l2 wasn't there though wasn't it
Javaness [-\]: at this level, nobody wants to be soft
IlanKeshet [7k\]: yes it was
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;W[fp]WL[1192.088]C[snam [1k\]: so where is my 20 dollars?
snam [1k\]: =)
wanron [3k\]: h4
IlanKeshet [7k\]: if l2 not there i go f2 but since ur running f3 ok i guess
Khimera [9k\]: why is this game taking so long
Khimera [9k\]: ?
Sangreal [4k\]: solaris is doing well
IlanKeshet [7k\]: look at time control
NorthWind [7k\]: g3, W has sente
Medice [5d?\]: go is the thinking man's game
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i think w wins now
fab [-\]: byo-yomi is very slow too : 5 minutes for 10 moves
DiGigot [7k\]: khimera, because it' s a strategy game.
wanron [3k\]: g4
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;B[hq]BL[1244.847]C[Orandajinn [2k?\]: not that slow
WBStones [23k\]: H6
Podiceps [?\]: and this is an important game
shaula [2k\]: Medice, then what is the thinking woman's game?
Greed [?\]: what is this game ?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: h6 looks almost like bad shape
Medice [5d?\]: chess
lolux [18k\]: w J6
wanron [3k\]: j4
Stevenson [1k\]: c word !
NorthWind [7k\]: j7
wanron [3k\]: h4
shaula [2k\]: I tought someone would answer "doing the laundry"
StefanRadu [1d\]: sabin
StefanRadu [1d\]: esti pe acolo?
sabin [5k\]: da
holynec [?\]: black wins
StefanRadu [1d\]: ia zi-mi
Medice [5d?\]: shaula, lets not go there
StefanRadu [1d\]: cu ce ocazie e meciul asta?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: g4 good here i like
siaro: i thouht it was jarts
sabin [5k\]: habar n-am
sabin [5k\]: dar e tare :D
mysteries [2k\]: G3
StefanRadu [1d\]: of
shaula [2k\]: but you just insulted all chess players, and you think it is ok?
KAMEHb [1d\]: hello pa3ok
IlanKeshet [7k\]: im not insulted
StefanRadu [1d\]: am auzit ca mai incolo o sa joace taranu cu csaba
Mephist0 [?\]: of course its ok :)
sabin [5k\]: mi-ar place sa-l bata popic pe dinerstein
Iciac [7k\]: Go is more of a women's game anyway, chess has all the Western gender biases :)
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;W[im]WL[1087.921]C[StefanRadu [1d\]: mereu il bate:))
MomoHamed [7k\]: h3 looks... hmm
sabin [5k\]: serios!
Podiceps [?\]: no shaula the correct answer is: "ther is no such thing as a thinking woman!" ;-)
bistrogo [3d\]: is this game for the fujitsu cup qualifications?
shaula [2k\]: oh yeah, it's just chess players after all
Javaness [-\]: now now
IlanKeshet [7k\]: aah j7 for attack o14 too
Mephist0 [?\]: exactly
Onmyoji [4d?\]: lol 
matjet [2k\]: i am a chess player...
IlanKeshet [7k\]: j7 nice
Mephist0 [?\]: good for u :)
wanron [3k\]: g4
Fishtank [5k\]: my condoleances
sabin [5k\]: unde ai auzit?
CLaser [13k\]: chesser is cool 
Onmyoji [4d?\]: wow is the best game
Fishtank [5k\]: i know right
sabin [5k\]: get out of here
nandaka [-\]: I haven't seen Alexandre play on influence ever
sabin [5k\]: no chess alowed
StefanRadu [1d\]: aici...  mai devreme.
IlanKeshet [7k\]: w isn't playing influence
IlanKeshet [7k\]: w is playing the attack on o14
sabin [5k\]: hah, ar fi f grav
Javaness [-\]: J7 feels hollow
Losing [1k\]: For what profit if not influence?
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Try to play chess on goban LOL
Alenchon [7k\]: j7 try to keep w stones connected
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: to kill o14
Losing [1k\]: he can't be expecting to kill
snam [1k\]: holynec do nt want give my 20 dollars =(((
IlanKeshet [7k\]: he wants blooood bloooooood
NorthWind [7k\]: g4 B prob lives ok
Manpuku [8k\]: k2 to live?
Khimera [9k\]: holynec is poor
matjet [2k\]: i would play n5 as black here
Pendiam [23k?\]: my teacher says "white is superior now"
IlanKeshet [7k\]: who is ur teacher?
Dogen [5k\]: why doesn't your "teacher" say that?
Dogen [5k\]: instead of you?
StefanRadu [1d\]: da ma. tot aici am auzit de treburile astea.. dar.. nu am putut fi foarte atent ca eram la munca. 
StefanRadu [1d\]: acum am ajuns acasa. si incerc sa aflu si eu concret
]
;B[ln]BL[1050.889]C[Onmyoji [4d?\]: stop
mooooo [10k\]: maybe he teaches himself
nomind [3k\]: all k5 thickness is useless now
holynec [?\]: j7 VERY STRONG@!!
holynec [?\]: who is your teacher pendiam
Dogen [5k\]: K5 was never really thick
Moin9 [4k\]: this black group is in trouble
StefanRadu [1d\]: anybody knows why are they playin? whats the event, the ocasion . etc
Dogen [5k\]: with the gap at the bottom
shaula [2k\]: maybe his teacher is a 1000 years old spirit who haunts him
goth [?\]: popic show his sharp teeth
kenjiro43 [7k\]: j7 is agressive
Losing [1k\]: black is fine
Pendiam [23k?\]: i charge myself to expensive, so i don't take any lessons from myself
Losing [1k\]: and white has troubles on outside
IlanKeshet [7k\]: SAI?! where?!?1
nandaka [-\]: pendium is 23k, he might have 22 teachers before the next teacher is a dan player.
Moin9 [4k\]: hmm yes black still have opportunities
StefanRadu [1d\]: ive heard earlier that mero csaba and taranu will play also. but.. can anyone tell me whats the event? 
wanron [3k\]: p5
StefanRadu [1d\]: stakes. etc.
JimmyJazz [1k\]: StefanRadu:  breakfast [3p\]: Fujitsu cup, European preliminary, game1
snrnsi: b die?
Losing [1k\]: no, b won't die
]
;W[ol]WL[993.449]C[StefanRadu [1d\]: aha. 
nomind [3k\]: i think we can say b lost the game
StefanRadu [1d\]: and . taranu vs csaba will be online too?
Losing [1k\]: so l7 was indeed partialy a "shape fixer"
wanron [3k\]: p5.n7
snam [1k\]: holynec -- was idding about my 20 dollars =(
snam [1k\]: *kidding
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ill give u 20 dollars
Stevenson [1k\]: snam drop it already, it was a joke
snam [1k\]: how can i get it? =)
Manpuku [8k\]: f3 was a poor response to l7 though?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: to pick it up though ull have to pay for the flight / transportation
Javaness [-\]: Papapopica will nobi
]
;B[pk]BL[948.154]
;W[lm]WL[990.333]C[Kayres [8k\]:  
kurawaitai: =D
Onmyoji [4d?\]:  
apostate [2k\]: nice timimg java
Siljan [?\]: Yes - tomorrow 8 p.m the second game (Csaba - Catalin)
Kayres [8k\]: n5
MonsieurGo [20k?\]:  
MonsieurGo [20k?\]:  
goth [?\]: w aims for the center cash
nomind [3k\]: w won the moyo wars
rs220675 [1k\]: g4?
Javaness [-\]: please don't post whitespace as a comment
wanron [3k\]: g4
ZorroR [2k\]: h6
Kayres [8k\]: ok sorry
Khimera [9k\]: hmm?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: javaness is the nicest admin
snrnsi: b h6?
Javaness [-\]: how about K2
MonsieurGo [20k?\]: Bug
]
;B[mp]BL[875.749]C[Losing [1k\]: I'd probably g4 too, first idea was g6 but then white takes g4 wich became even better
mof [4d?\]: but maybe we can have an nth moyo war, ad black can make a micromoyo inside?
Losing [1k\]: h6*
Khimera [9k\]:  ▲
IlanKeshet [7k\]: connect?
Iciac [7k\]: k2 after exhausting alternative escapes
WBStones [23k\]: I said ....DIE BLACK
mysteries [2k\]: p5
]
;W[oo]WL[963.251]C[Khimera [9k\]: ▲ ▲
holynec [?\]: if black lives, can white make enough in center?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i was right
Sangreal [4k\]: pleas no black triangles
kurawaitai: g5 for b
hjkol: k2?
NorthWind [7k\]: good question holynec
snrnsi: M4?
Javaness [-\]: breakfast gambles on the centre
Onmyoji [4d?\]: its time to kill
holynec [?\]: r9 and o14 pointed into middle
Pendiam [23k?\]: yes g5 is the only move, my teacher said
nandaka [-\]: Breakfast doesn't gamble
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Big moyo strategy?
Manpuku [8k\]: k2, otherwise forced by w
mysteries [2k\]: g4
mooooo [10k\]: k4 seems to be in big trouble
Iciac [7k\]: white wants k2 in gote, to give a large centre
kurawaitai: tengen =_)
Warlord [2k?\]: k2 sente now?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: "large center"?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: how can it be large
rs220675 [1k\]: n3 to get sente to make the black group living more comfortable
IlanKeshet [7k\]: with Q9 and d10 sticking out
IlanKeshet [7k\]: and o14
]
;B[jr]BL[747.841]C[Iciac [7k\]: Don't ask me, I'm not the one playing here ;)
mysteries [2k\]: Black stones top right can still be attacked
WBStones [23k\]: WOW
Manpuku [8k\]: voila
nandaka [-\]: K2 is thivk
Medice [5d?\]: it does have some potential to become large, black must take some gote to secure these bottom stones anyway
nandaka [-\]: thick
WBStones [23k\]: maybe black lives in
Medice [5d?\]: althought forcing q9 hurts a little
IlanKeshet [7k\]: w has to attack o14 now
IlanKeshet [7k\]: just has to only chance to make profit in center
nandaka [-\]: But now H3 would be better at G3
rs220675 [1k\]: i think black lives
Javaness [-\]: will M2 kill?
Iciac [7k\]: 442 observers, wow
wanron [3k\]: h4
Javaness [-\]: or is my tesuji detector faulty
rs220675 [1k\]: because white must answer n3 threat now
rs220675 [1k\]: so black has sente...I like black so far
IlanKeshet [7k\]: m2 looks small though java?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: w connected out
WBStones [23k\]: G2
]
;W[ci]WL[872.213]C[snrnsi: N3 G4
Iciac [7k\]: I read faulty Javaness m2 m3 n3 n2
Warlord [2k?\]: ya but if he doesnt respond n3 cuts him off
WBStones [23k\]: wosh
IlanKeshet [7k\]: c11?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i don't understand
barakeel [2d\]: prevent the connection
goth [?\]: now i really don't get what w is after...
thekaiser [2d\]: put pressur on the group...
a1h1 [1k\]: c11 is big
wanron [3k\]: f9
IlanKeshet [7k\]: but they both are living
a1h1 [1k\]: but does it threaten the c6 group
barakeel [2d\]: not qhite
a1h1 [1k\]: ?
Iciac [7k\]: To 7k eyes
kurawaitai: if w b5 makes hard for b
mooooo [10k\]: imo w can ignore n3, b not
mysteries [2k\]: b4
Losing [1k\]: m2 trades n4 for q2 according to my reading
snrnsi: n4
Javaness [-\]: C11 I don't understand at all
goth [?\]: should have attacked o14 to trade for the center
leefeidao [2k\]: blk at least 5p
]
;B[fj]BL[675.833]C[snrnsi: n3
quup [1d\]: b4 not so happy because it induces w to take eyespace from k5 group
IlanKeshet [7k\]: c11 bad
thekaiser [2d\]: loool
MomoHamed [7k\]: no
IlanKeshet [7k\]: c11 lost game
Javaness [-\]: black is too tall to lose
kurawaitai: lol
Tetriste [-\]: black is 7d ^^'
goth [?\]: now b invades the center
thekaiser [2d\]: 7k7D
thekaiser [2d\]: it's reverse
snrnsi: G4
wanron [3k\]: b4
MomoHamed [7k\]: c11seems normal though
thekaiser [2d\]: what is good for 7D is bad for 7K
Medice [5d?\]: i'm looking at the board here and i fail to see where white played after k2
nandaka [-\]: C11
Medice [5d?\]: ah, that
Iciac [7k\]: Too true kaiser =P
IlanKeshet [7k\]: breakfast isn't 7d
Manpuku [8k\]: b looks fairly comfortable now
kurawaitai: peep
Medice [5d?\]: didn't seem that urgent to me
IlanKeshet [7k\]: so there..
Medice [5d?\]: but it's big of course
NorthWind [7k\]: the left side was going to be a lot of points for B but this way hard to see where W can get enough
holynec [?\]: black wins!
Warlord [2k?\]: i like p18
snrnsi: peep not good i guess
]
;W[qg]WL[757.864]C[Tetriste [-\]: you mean e9?
thekaiser [2d\]: omg 
StefanRadu [1d\]: pop always wins against him:)
Onmyoji [4d?\]: w leads
XY0908 [-\]: And Breakfast looks like young Dan Aykroyd...
holynec [?\]: why onmyoji
Losing [1k\]: o2 fun
nomind [3k\]: whats the score onmyoji
Onmyoji [4d?\]: i counted
IlanKeshet [7k\]: r13 strengthens black?
Fishtank [5k\]: :p
holynec [?\]: what did you count
Spartak [7k\]: Народ на русский язык переходим.... а то ничего не понятно
Kayres [8k\]: the points
wanron [3k\]: q12
mooooo [10k\]: onmyoji counts w+22.5
goth [?\]: dienerstein has decided yose started
Paddlefoot [2d\]: R13 does strengthen b
holynec [?\]: black bottom right is huge
Paddlefoot [2d\]: w must have been worried about S15
mysteries [2k\]: starting to put pressure on top right Black group
Kayres [8k\]: black bottom right?
Fishtank [5k\]: Hapoa ha pyccknn reblik nepexoanm.... a to hnyero he nohrtho
Losing [1k\]: o2 fun and sente it seems to me, anyone can confirm?
Iciac [7k\]: s15 would have been very interesting
Medice [5d?\]: it does feel like white is having slight upper hand 
Paddlefoot [2d\]: not really
barakeel [2d\]: its even
mof [4d?\]: nice try fishtank :)
Fishtank [5k\]: :)
Kayres [8k\]: r11 coming
nomind [3k\]: s15 is nothing
Paddlefoot [2d\]: b would sacrifice 2 stones fro outside thickness
Iciac [7k\]: s12?
holynec [?\]: q12
]
;B[ph]BL[551.055]C[Medice [5d?\]: q12 more likely
Paddlefoot [2d\]: well it's nothing now
quup [1d\]: q12 looks like only move
nandaka [-\]: B has little choice 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: q12 is hot
Dogen [5k\]: does anyone know when the second game is going to be?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: only move on the board
thekaiser [2d\]: everybody would have played q12
wanron [3k\]: o12
IlanKeshet [7k\]: o12 is crazy
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 3k move
mof [4d?\]: shapewise it is difficuly to tell who is ahead but maybe black can be a little unsatisfied with the left.
IlanKeshet [7k\]: o12 helps black connect?
holynec [?\]: if white gets m14 and e15, a lot of territory starts forming hmm
Tetriste [-\]: o12 aims at the center
thekaiser [2d\]: f10 is annoying
Tetriste [-\]: but
IlanKeshet [7k\]: yes true o12 takes territory?
Tetriste [-\]: I think it's risky
]
;W[fr]WL[680.367]
;B[gr]BL[543.249]C[DiGigot [7k\]: w wants blood.
Iciac [7k\]: sigh I was just reading that :P
]
;W[eq]WL[670.876]C[Losing [1k\]: o2 now!
thekaiser [2d\]: w's very territorial
barakeel [2d\]: ko i s natural
holynec [?\]: guess who it is...
IlanKeshet [7k\]: moe?
Tetriste [-\]: o2?
holynec [?\]: mo breakfast!
wanron [3k\]: h4
IlanKeshet [7k\]: mo ko
]
;B[mq]BL[500.276]C[Losing [1k\]: threat to live, and make good points sente
]
;W[mr]WL[667.231]C[Losing [1k\]: aaaah
]
;B[nr]BL[497.968]C[mooooo [10k\]: what?
Losing [1k\]: or that
Iciac [7k\]: oh nice
kurawaitai: o0o
Losing [1k\]: n3 wasn't needed in my reading tho
quup [1d\]: m3 eh
Warlord [2k?\]: that's what k2 was all about
mooooo [10k\]: no ko mo?
Losing [1k\]: oh nvm it was
Javaness [-\]: well done popic, eat stones!
Manpuku [8k\]: pretty sweet
nandaka [-\]: m3 
goth [?\]: great
BUM [7d\]: w suprised?
]
;W[or]WL[626.568]
;B[lr]BL[495.751]
;W[ns]WL[624.273]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: breakfast crying now?
quup [1d\]: wow
barakeel [2d\]: not really
nandaka [-\]: m1 
]
;B[ls]BL[491.374]C[evanj [2d\]: pretty obvious move
goth [?\]: 7D move
map [12k\]: v nice
quup [1d\]: this i didn't foresee w doing o__O;
Kanin [-\]: seems breakfast didn't even see this
BUM [7d\]: p5 could be at o4
mof [4d?\]: of course he did
BUM [7d\]: then n3 wouldnt work
Manpuku [8k\]: ...resign?
Medice [5d?\]: this feels satisfactory for black
]
;W[bo]WL[596.316]C[Javitxu [8k\]: i think he has preferred sente than those 3 stones , cant be taht?
evanj [2d\]: o2 is not so exotic, guys
Javaness [-\]: *\\o/* Go crisitan gabriel papapopica grande + magic hat *\\o/*
Babibo [1d\]: I thought w would save his 3 stones (he could by playing M2 instead
IlanKeshet [7k\]: it was gote for black though
holynec [?\]: game over!
kurawaitai: e15 big?
holynec [?\]: black + win as i predicted
quup [1d\]: i see, so he trade it for b5
IlanKeshet [7k\]: game is not over till the fat lady kicks the goban over
]
;B[bn]BL[458.212]C[holynec [?\]: what is worth more quup? ;\]
sloppyplay [13k\]: ask the super se
]
;W[bp]WL[576.019]C[holynec [?\]: now white center will get dmolished
]
;B[ff]BL[451.156]C[cdybeijing [8k\]: just curious all, since this is being played as a free game on kgs, doesn't that mean players can read our comments?
kurawaitai: danm
Javaness [-\]: black has more cash
IlanKeshet [7k\]: no
evanj [2d\]: no, only teaching game
IlanKeshet [7k\]: teaching game
kuikentje [2d\]: thank god they can not
Javaness [-\]: the players cannot read our comments
cdybeijing [8k\]: ah, only teaching games... thanks
]
;W[eg]WL[549.358]C[Javaness [-\]: H15
Iciac [7k\]: I had a brief moment of panic there, why I don't know...
snam [1k\]: they can
mof [4d?\]: too bad, they'd pick up many good moves <:)
]
;B[de]BL[445.152]C[AntiAngel [10k?\]: they need months for reading all the comments 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: they don't need our worthless comments
wanron [3k\]: h14
quup [1d\]: holynec, i think they're similar, but b5 has potential for center fight and m1 is played out already
StefanRadu [1d\]: and even if they can..    what would be the problem? .. they are much stronger then we are
snam [1k\]: if they have second account here -- hey an read it
IlanKeshet [7k\]: useless..
shaula [2k\]: they could then use SE too
goth [?\]: they can on private chat
snam [1k\]: but black used my move f3 -- so they read us =)
kurawaitai: u move?
kurawaitai: lier
kurawaitai: ^^
]
;W[gj]WL[491.337]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: reminds me of the time when Kasparov played the "world" at chess... and domolished them
]
;B[gk]BL[439.67]
;W[hj]WL[480.775]C[nomind [3k\]: playing as "world" doesnt make one side stronger
Javaness [-\]: white tries to make moyo, but how much can he create
Manpuku [8k\]: b should extend from p14?
StefanRadu [1d\]: o10 starting to look big
StefanRadu [1d\]: but now urgent
StefanRadu [1d\]: not*
Iciac [7k\]: They read the kibitz, deliberately play somewhere shocking for teh lolz
Warlord [2k?\]: h10 extension looks interesting
NorthWind [7k\]: now c9 group in big trouble
Javaness [-\]: H15 ,O10, M14 big moves
]
;B[ei]BL[382]C[Medice [5d?\]: i dont see how o10 is big
Javaness [-\]: nice
Medice [5d?\]: it has no followup for white?
Iciac [7k\]: Beautiful pattern :)
]
;W[eh]WL[465.545]C[Javaness [-\]: clever pop
shaula [2k\]: maybe they chat together in private
nandaka [-\]: m16 
quup [1d\]: b cant make shape in sente on the lower left... so w gonna get first dibs on the upper right
wanron [3k\]: e7
shaula [2k\]: "hey, what you gonna do now dude?" "I don't know, what would you think of this?" "Oh no, it would kill my group" "Sorry didn't see that"
cdybeijing [8k\]: I count white being down about 12 points
choboco [1k\]: so solaris is stronger than pros? ;)
Tetriste [-\]: b can make an arrow with e11 shape
mof [4d?\]: about n3, he must have figued it as a miai
Iciac [7k\]: Solaris is awesome sauce!
mof [4d?\]: if he read that there was no kill
nomind [3k\]: i think solaris beat pros before..
mof [4d?\]: in that case c11 might well be right
Kayres [8k\]: f7#
jezebel [7k\]: is O 17 group the nxt target?
]
;B[pc]BL[270.12]C[goth [?\]: java likes solaris because they're both Sun Microsystems products
hulken [1d\]: yes and if ifk was anny good they dont need to smell like sour lättmjölk
Sandmann [-\]: i heard solaris almost passed pro exam in japan, blundered in the last decisive game
gogonuts [4d\]: i thought w had the better opening, funny how b caught up
]
;W[em]WL[435.721]C[choboco [1k\]: i think b ahead
jezebel [7k\]: hé, solaris aering me!
sloppyplay [13k\]: are our western pros strong? are they real pros?
desayuno [3k\]: some are
Onmyoji [4d?\]: fake
LovroKlc [4k\]: they are real pros
LovroKlc [4k\]: all of them
Warlord [2k?\]: they're pros in asia actually
choboco [1k\]: nope
JosueY [2d\]: black point ahead , but soo black has weak groups
Warlord [2k?\]: not all of them tho
nonochan [6d\]: d8 is good shape
quup [1d\]: every western player is read pro?
goth [?\]: no, they have pro playing rankings
LovroKlc [4k\]: all of them
mysteries [2k\]: b9
hulken [1d\]: mr lättmjölk??
Warlord [2k?\]: some are honorary pros
Babibo [1d\]: can clint eastwood be considered the best western pro ?
LovroKlc [4k\]: pro associations gave them pro status
jezebel [7k\]: they are "fake's pros"?
goth [?\]: above 2700 points
sloppyplay [13k\]: i see
nonochan [6d\]: but f8 is probably the move to play
mof [4d?\]: haha, a1 now, a real gaisardrag
DiGigot [7k\]: they are amateur pro, actually
sixsix [-\]: they are much stronger than european amateurs, even strong ones
Spartak [7k\]: f9
Losing [1k\]: Catalin is the only not honorary male pro I know of (from europe)
NorthWind [7k\]: looks hopeless for B on left. q17 very risky
]
;B[dl]BL[186.28]C[Skaalman [6k\]: as log as you make you living / ge payed to play go pr definition your a pro...
sloppyplay [13k\]: i see
]
;W[rh]WL[425.06]
;B[ri]BL[182.997]C[Paddlefoot [2d\]: not true
wanron [3k\]: h9
LovroKlc [4k\]: skaalman you are wrong
hulken [1d\]: A19 = really really lättmjölksdrag...  
goth [?\]: guo juan as well
Paddlefoot [2d\]: To be considered a pro you need to be a member of a proffessional body
Paddlefoot [2d\]: like the Nihon Ki-in
]
;W[rg]WL[399.286]C[LovroKlc [4k\]: yes paddlefoot
Paddlefoot [2d\]: but there are others
Paddlefoot [2d\]: it's like golf
evanj [2d\]: yes, folks, let's have this argument again, shall we?
gogonuts [4d\]: useless conversation
Skaalman [6k\]: no check up the definition of professional
]
;B[qb]BL[168.569]
;W[rb]WL[396.436]C[Losing [1k\]: guo juan, fan hui, were pro in asia before moving to europe, that's kind of different to me
]
;B[qd]BL[165.547]
;W[rc]WL[394.688]C[nonochan [6d\]: m16 
quup [1d\]: it feels like w got cheated out of central territory
Warlord [2k?\]: ya and taranu went to asia to get pro status and earn it fair and square
hulken [1d\]: fake pros = ifkáre...  same fake, fake one place fake everywhare
desayuno [3k\]: after h9 w still might have chance
Iciac [7k\]: p10
goth [?\]: catalin as well, he got 5p in japan
Losing [1k\]: Catalin = taranu
Javaness [-\]: this is not a nice place to discuss pro status
DerWitt [1k\]: what are the other accounts of solaris?
mysteries [2k\]: E13?
evanj [2d\]: yeah, there are no beers here
]
;B[fk]BL[92.488]C[Mutenroshi [-\]: it seems b leads around 20?
LovroKlc [4k\]: i think B ahead
Paddlefoot [2d\]: M12 area?
quup [1d\]: q7 becomes more interesting for w... if q7 r7 s10 t11 q10 r10 r9 r11 r8 p9 p10 b is caught in ladder
]
;W[pm]WL[375.806]C[goth [?\]: Ing Bank according to his site
]
;B[qm]BL[85.741]C[Tetriste [-\]: lol
desayuno [3k\]: unless w endgame great game over
nonochan [6d\]: s10 t11 q10 
]
;W[rj]WL[356.664]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: b+10.5 right noq
evanj [2d\]: nice sequence quup
barakeel [2d\]: yeah white wins
Tetriste [-\]: nice quup
Medice [5d?\]: t11 r10, you mean
nonochan [6d\]: W is extremely good at the endgame
]
;B[qj]BL[66.773]C[JosueY [2d\]: uttaaa
]
;W[si]WL[351.197]C[holynec [?\]: yikes
IlanKeshet [7k\]: t11 sente
mof [4d?\]: for he fights with malako powah
]
;B[rk]BL[60.256]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: wait nm
nonochan [6d\]: r11 q11 
LovroKlc [4k\]: but black isnt that bad that he can lose  that big a lead
IlanKeshet [7k\]: t11 gote
feature [-\]: more than than endgame
Vinata [5d\]: w can build middle
sloppyplay [13k\]: some said japan and korea give western players pro status in order to promote go in western countries and in actual fact they are not as strong. is it true?
gogonuts [4d\]: its close overall
holynec [?\]: i think f9 was bad
Fishtank [5k\]: of course it is
Warlord [2k?\]: its surely not a great difference
desayuno [3k\]: if b didnt f9
Orandajinn [2k?\]: who cares
]
;W[lb]WL[305.358]C[evanj [2d\]: they're all stronger than us, that's enough
desayuno [3k\]: w would have been able to use center
goth [?\]: what is the komi in this game?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: china / japan have the strongest  players
Tetriste [-\]: I do
Tsujigiri [9k\]: LOL
IlanKeshet [7k\]: its in their blood
]
;B[mb]BL[52.63]C[Orandajinn [2k?\]: ok sorry
LovroKlc [4k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: dna coated
IlanKeshet [7k\]: fact
nomind [3k\]: no ilan
]
;W[ld]WL[291.997]C[Interrupt [4k\]: who is teaching who?
nomind [3k\]: korea..
LovroKlc [4k\]: korea
Onmyoji [4d?\]: strongest players in italy, like milanmilan
gogonuts [4d\]: learn it from the age of 3 and its in your blood too :-)
desayuno [3k\]: lol
IlanKeshet [7k\]: milian is asian
]
;B[mc]BL[38.952]C[forte [3k\]: IlanKeshet, Korea/China have the strongest players
]
;W[qi]WL[288.526]C[Iciac [7k\]: In lieu of katana, the Japanse turn to go.
mysteries [2k\]: h10?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: korea too
]
;B[pi]BL[35.095]C[desayuno [3k\]: they had go before katanas
nonochan [6d\]: To be completely fair to the actual situation, in Korea you have to be about 5p-6p strength to be promoted to 1p. 
imagine [5k\]: m13
Begon [2k\]: P10
IlanKeshet [7k\]: promotion!!
]
;W[kb]WL[249.917]C[aznb [9k\]: damn who is winning this game
goth [?\]: komi value? any1 knows?
gogonuts [4d\]: nice w timing
holynec [?\]: NO SWEWARING
Javaness [-\]: now black can make moyo
Vinata [5d\]: n12
Mutenroshi [-\]: japan has rapyuta! stongest player of world!
wanron [3k\]: mn11
thekaiser [2d\]: l18 omg...
Iciac [7k\]: Reminds me of checkers, Ilan
IlanKeshet [7k\]: no thats king me
holynec [?\]: make a moyo in white moyo? :D
Javaness [-\]: overtime is very slow
]
;B[jl]BL[295.729]OB[9]C[Iciac [7k\]: oh - chess, my bad :p
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ;p
nomind [3k\]: rapyutas brain works too fast for slow games
quup [1d\]: made a moyo in your moyo so you can have points in your points
LovroKlc [4k\]: komi is 6,5
Moin9 [5k\]: i think the center will  now become very interesting...
IlanKeshet [7k\]: r1?
goth [?\]: thx
LovroKlc [4k\]: gosensations.com
IlanKeshet [7k\]: then k7
Kickchon [12k?\]: goth, komi is 6,5 and you can see it at option -> rules
mof [4d?\]: I think the truth is that they have much to learn from westerners and that guys like breakfast could easily rule the go world <:)
Javaness [-\]: as I count, white needs centre to win
nonochan [6d\]: B exercised patience with F9, now he strikes.
gogonuts [4d\]: k8 was the aim of f9, but this plan is a little extravagant
IlanKeshet [7k\]: r1 pretty big
desayuno [3k\]: not really
goth [?\]: much obliged
mof [4d?\]: normally when he plays he has drunk a bottle of vodka, to create more of a challenge <;)
Javaness [-\]: black may not answer r1
gogonuts [4d\]: b let w surge in points
evanj [2d\]: r1 is not at all big right now
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: r1 is irrelevant now
Onmyoji [4d?\]: lol
Tetriste [-\]: n11?
wanron [3k\]: k9
]
;W[il]WL[183.005]C[gogonuts [4d\]: r1 gets only 1 answer
Iciac [7k\]: m11
coupdefeu [16k?\]: c vraiment un 3p?
DerWitt [1k\]: who was dinerstein's teacher?
]
;B[jm]BL[266.731]OB[8]C[coupdefeu [16k?\]: whoa
bolbi [-\]: oui, coupdefeu
IlanKeshet [7k\]: i guess r1 small because u can't sweep into territory ur rightg
thekaiser [2d\]: i hate those kind of move
Iciac [7k\]: haha 9d game, and only 10 observers
coupdefeu [16k?\]: il vient d'ou
barakeel [2d\]: r1 q1?
holynec [?\]: 9d vs 9d gamE!!1
gogonuts [4d\]: why the fancy j8?
nonochan [6d\]: B loses a lot here...
wanron [3k\]: k10
Kickchon [12k?\]: 9d is overrated :P
]
;W[jk]WL[146.481]C[coupdefeu [16k?\]: normalemnt sa ne depasse pas les 9d
]
;B[kl]BL[264.455]OB[7]C[Javaness [-\]: white bluff
coupdefeu [16k?\]: et lorsque c 1p c privé
quup [1d\]: r1 7 point  gote atm ?
wanron [3k\]: m10
Iciac [7k\]: now this is cruel =)
Warlord [2k?\]: pop is a daemon
desayuno [3k\]: w sacrifices two stones and gos for center?
Iciac [7k\]: white dies?
mof [4d?\]: w will need 2 eyes eventually?
Javaness [-\]: *\\o/* Go Popic *\\o/*
]
;W[kk]WL[108.577]C[evanj [2d\]: center is still open
]
;B[ll]BL[261.19]OB[6]C[mof [4d?\]: seems o3 is  a 2point group
Tetriste [-\]: white shouldnt die here
Javaness [-\]: what centre
mof [4d?\]: that's not so hot
evanj [2d\]: not centre, center
whatisgo [1d\]: is this some sort of promotion game?
desayuno [3k\]: it depends where you live
gogonuts [4d\]: n1 very hard for b to play
Iciac [7k\]: white needs to connect to the centre, at least no?
hulken [1d\]: no it is like ifk not very hot thet ither
]
;W[lk]WL[70.798]C[gogonuts [4d\]: no he wont cponnect
kuikentje [2d\]: breakfast [3p\]: Fujitsu cup, European preliminary, game1
nomind [3k\]: n1 very bad move
apolodor: EGF Executive-board has decided the following: European player for Fujitsu Cup 2010 will be the winner out of three games on the Internet !     Game 1: Christian Pop - Alexandre Dinerchtein  Game 2: Csaba Mero - Catalin Taranu  Winners of Game 1 and 2 play final Game 3  
evanj [2d\]: was k7 a mistake?
barakeel [2d\]: bon ya qu'elqu'un qui dit des trucs intelligents ici?
Iciac [7k\]: Thanks - I'd missed the danger
gogonuts [4d\]: not now ofcourse
whatisgo [1d\]: thank you
coupdefeu [16k?\]: c'est une partie special ou...
evanj [2d\]: non, barakeel
]
;B[mm]BL[215.018]OB[5]C[nonochan [6d\]: I think K8 was bad - better at N11 or so
evanj [2d\]: thx nono
]
;W[ml]WL[58.529]C[Javaness [-\]: popic eats stones well
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: if they are playing on teh internet, does that mean they can consult joseki books?
goth [?\]: can only be pop with taranu
]
;B[kn]BL[212.055]OB[4]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: now M13
nonochan [6d\]: P13 will be quite severe
IlanKeshet [7k\]: and shabaaaam
Tetriste [-\]: n11?
bolbi [-\]: lis ce qui est écrit coupdefeu
]
;W[ms]WL[42.045]C[barakeel [2d\]: n9 is dangerous
IlanKeshet [7k\]: m13 next
gogonuts [4d\]: w safety play
whatisgo [1d\]: they don't neet joseki books
evanj [2d\]: senteish though
nonochan [6d\]: W better play n13 
Javaness [-\]: yes Katsumi1, both are using Kogo's right nw :)
nomind [3k\]: w chicken :D
jezebel [7k\]: M13?
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: thx
Iciac [7k\]: sente?
quup [1d\]: they probably play at some places the egf has accepted for tourny use
]
;B[lq]BL[188.027]OB[3]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: n13? or m13?
coupdefeu [16k?\]: ah oui
desayuno [3k\]: n13 seems like reaching for too munch
dogsaveus [6k\]: h15
desayuno [3k\]: much
coupdefeu [16k?\]: il est ecrit que c'est exeptionnel
coupdefeu [16k?\]: c'est surement des pros
coupdefeu [16k?\]: nn
wanron [3k\]: n11
Onmyoji [4d?\]: seki
]
;W[bj]WL[5.948]C[barakeel [2d\]: ko
gogonuts [4d\]: h14?
evanj [2d\]: huh
Tetriste [-\]: huh?
desayuno [3k\]: inscrutable endgame
gogonuts [4d\]: right, that group got weaker
Warlord [2k?\]: when do the other 2 games take place?
Pendiam [23k?\]: onmyoji, you're funny
quup [1d\]: the secret sente
]
;B[bk]BL[167.315]OB[2]C[hagbard [-\]: apolodor: where and when will the fujitsu cup take place?
Tetriste [-\]: top secret one
evanj [2d\]: don't understand the direction of play here
LovroKlc [4k\]: second one Taranu-Mero
LovroKlc [4k\]: third one finals
gogonuts [4d\]: i must admit, j8 got a nice result
Fishtank [5k\]: when will taranumero play
]
;W[lg]WL[273.488]OW[9]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: m13!!!!
IlanKeshet [7k\]: <-- happy
barakeel [2d\]: h15
Onmyoji [4d?\]: -._.-
goth [?\]: that hurt...
quup [1d\]: w mustbe counting on p13
Siljan [?\]: Taranu - Mero  tomorrow 8 p.m.
IlanKeshet [7k\]: now O12
evanj [2d\]: 8pm what time zone?
Dogen [5k\]: 8 pm where?
Dogen [5k\]: it's always 8 pm somewhere...
gogonuts [4d\]: w leading now imo
Siljan [?\]: I assume Romanian time zone
evanj [2d\]: not right now it isn't
Javaness [-\]: csaba is here, you can ask him :)
quup [1d\]: this game started liek 3 pm romanian time
wanron [3k\]: h15
Javaness [-\]: H15
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: w is going for a big centre
LovroKlc [4k\]: Id say white slightly ahead
IlanKeshet [7k\]: "big"
goth [?\]: w needs 15p in the center to win
]
;B[mh]BL[75.303]OB[1]C[evanj [2d\]: 15 pence?
Javaness [-\]: yes, white always needed centre to win, but hard to close it
]
;W[lh]WL[246.275]OW[8]C[Tetriste [-\]: 15p is a really strong pro
gogonuts [4d\]: after j8 w got nice momentum for the center
IlanKeshet [7k\]: yes
nonochan [6d\]: h15 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 15p gives 9p 6 handicap
Tetriste [-\]: lolz
]
;B[he]BL[300]OB[10]C[Iciac [7k\]: 15p buys a small lolly
Nomadic [?\]: smart people around
leefeidao [2k\]: w good
desayuno [3k\]: j14
KAMEHb [1d\]: W +2.5
]
;W[if]WL[232.09]OW[7]C[Javaness [-\]: come on popic
nonochan [6d\]: j15 
IlanKeshet [7k\]: j14 obv
Fishtank [5k\]: in the words of christopher walken - REDUCE
]
;B[mi]BL[286.593]OB[9]C[nonochan [6d\]: first j15 
JosueY [2d\]: i think black will win
IlanKeshet [7k\]: who is that again?
gogonuts [4d\]: w pretty comfy i think, about even on the board
]
;W[bg]WL[209.179]OW[6]C[barakeel [2d\]: r1?
thekaiser [2d\]: i'd say b+5 for the moment
]
;B[bf]BL[281.662]OB[8]C[Onmyoji [4d?\]: i count b+29.5
Tsujigiri [9k\]: What movie was that?
KAMEHb [1d\]: W +2.5
evanj [2d\]: too close now, w will win in yose
Tetriste [-\]: w's endgame seems better
nonochan [6d\]: W is reall good at the endgame
JosueY [2d\]: g3.
megaschaf [3k\]: j15
gogonuts [4d\]: you mean se count + 29.5 :-)
barakeel [2d\]: wis ahead
dresu [-\]: I think w is ahead by a lot
Begon [2k\]: W will win
IlanKeshet [7k\]: looks like a darn close game
Tsujigiri [9k\]: fishtank <=
DerWitt [1k\]: but b still ahead to me
IlanKeshet [7k\]: Really close
Onmyoji [4d?\]: java stop
IlanKeshet [7k\]: sickly close
goth [?\]: b is very tactical too
NorthWind [7k\]: W relying on his komi -__-
quup [1d\]: i'm counting w a little ahead, 5 point or so
HoangVu [-\]: breakfast seems comfortable
barakeel [2d\]: q1 is big
IlanKeshet [7k\]: q1 huge yes
Iciac [7k\]: It's a very relaxed meal Hoang
]
;W[pb]WL[143.725]OW[5]
;B[ob]BL[278.78]OB[7]C[KAMEHb [1d\]: yose is siple enough so W  will win
LovroKlc [4k\]: q1 biggest
]
;W[qa]WL[140.995]OW[4]
;B[li]BL[274.294]OB[6]
;W[ki]WL[138.028]OW[3]C[desayuno [3k\]: yose is not simple
Stevenson [1k\]: yose is never simple
QvQ [3d\]: W leads
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: There was no komi untill after the time of Shusaku who always won with b
nonochan [6d\]: j15 
Javaness [-\]: breakfast yose propoganda
]
;B[qe]BL[262.164]OB[5]
;W[re]WL[135.021]OW[2]
;B[pf]BL[258.163]OB[4]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: q1 huge
barakeel [2d\]: q1 maybe not sente
LovroKlc [4k\]: isnt q1 sente?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: sure it is...
Iciac [7k\]: Nope
wanron [3k\]: n1a1j15
KAMEHb [1d\]: This Yose is simpl for Diner
barakeel [2d\]: yes
LovroKlc [4k\]: if w tenuki
gogonuts [4d\]: how about g3?
kolben [3k?\]: w ahead
LovroKlc [4k\]: N9
]
;W[sk]WL[101.129]OW[1]C[Losing [1k\]: q1 def not sente
desayuno [3k\]: r1 better
barakeel [2d\]: why q1 is not sente?
LovroKlc [4k\]: no
Iciac [7k\]: White can connect or q3 at any time
LovroKlc [4k\]: q1 better
]
;B[rl]BL[228.543]OB[3]C[Javaness [-\]: q1 not sente because of miai
NorthWind [7k\]: I'm sure W has counted
Losing [1k\]: because white can either connect or love with q3 after q1
]
;W[gq]WL[300]OW[10]C[LovroKlc [4k\]: O4 after Q3
revo [2k\]: q3 and o4 miai too
Losing [1k\]: live too
DerWitt [1k\]: q1 sente
Fishtank [5k\]: no i like love
Fishtank [5k\]: looked better
]
;B[ie]BL[215.806]OB[2]C[mayeck [9k\]: q1 may be not sente cause white lives inside with q3 or connects N9, so miai
Losing [1k\]: indeed
thekaiser [2d\]: indeed w has a freakin yose
goth [?\]: w gets all the big ones till now
gogonuts [4d\]: yupp
zaphodb [?\]: s8 shows confidence
]
;W[hr]WL[275.491]OW[9]C[mof [4d?\]: so... what do you think about k8? good or bad?
]
;B[hf]BL[203.692]OB[1]C[nonochan [6d\]: it shows common sense
Nomadic [?\]: wow w gain a lot
IlanKeshet [7k\]: ok let me count...
zaphodb [?\]: otherwise he'd taken ko, wouldn't he?
wanron [3k\]: j13
glimz [1k\]: is this match part of some event?
]
;W[hg]WL[237.308]OW[8]C[Iciac [7k\]: r1 is still large
]
;B[jf]BL[300]OB[10]
;W[ig]WL[235.519]OW[7]C[evanj [2d\]: everything is part of some event
Javaness [-\]: fujitsu qualifier
quup [1d\]: glimz: yep
LovroKlc [4k\]: Fujitsu cuop qualifications
]
;B[jd]BL[292.981]OB[9]C[Losing [1k\]: best way to handle a center territory is to act like you want it then take all yose on sides while your opponent destroys it :p
yakotaki [1k\]: j13 q13 f6 ......
LovroKlc [4k\]: cup
glimz [1k\]: thanks
gogonuts [4d\]: by now w ahead on the board imo
yakotaki [1k\]: imo too
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: Losing is wise. I sometimes act as if i want the sides and end up with a massive centre
wanron [3k\]: j4
Iciac [7k\]: Oh - they're down to byo-yomi. How time flies...
hagbard [-\]: where and when will fujitsu cup take place
]
;W[af]WL[186.531]OW[6]C[mof [4d?\]: but endgame was w's all the time... q18 and g3
mof [4d?\]: nothing fancy
]
;B[ae]BL[280.472]OB[8]C[nomind [3k\]: w wins close game tho
]
;W[ag]WL[181.723]OW[5]
;B[be]BL[274.872]OB[7]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: 62 points total for w, and  for black: 55 pts for black
IlanKeshet [7k\]: w wins easily it seems
quup [1d\]: w might lose on time
danigabi [5d\]: black k3 real painful
LovroKlc [4k\]: yure wrong ilan
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: well, he can resign then I guess
wanron [3k\]: h4
IlanKeshet [7k\]: w wins by 12 points?
LovroKlc [4k\]: less than 10
aznb [9k\]: idk
aznb [9k\]: if less than 10 points
aznb [9k\]: end game can end it
evanj [2d\]: that was 130 moves ago, get with the program :D
]
;W[co]WL[112.645]OW[4]
;B[dn]BL[266.423]OB[6]C[Dogen [5k\]: B G4 big?
coupdefeu [16k?\]: blan domine le partie nn?
DerWitt [1k\]: w ahead by iny bit
Iciac [7k\]: Not overly Dogen
Tetriste [-\]: b+0.5 :O
thekaiser [2d\]: funny, seems like w always plays close moves not wide but...
nonochan [6d\]: W h4 
Iciac [7k\]: Tetriste +1
tradeeven [2d\]: w is ahead on the board
nonochan [6d\]: or o10 
glimz [1k\]: where is onmyoji when you need him
]
;W[jg]WL[70.116]OW[3]C[Garuka123 [10k?\]: did white turn it around?
evanj [2d\]: dead
coupdefeu [16k?\]: quoi blan gg de 0.5 c sa
Iciac [7k\]: In the toilet again
KAMEHb [1d\]: W+5.5
DerWitt [1k\]: it's within komi for sure
wanron [3k\]: s11
]
;B[kf]BL[216.808]OB[5]
;W[lj]WL[58.949]OW[2]C[sacrifice1 [8k\]: in the name of "sacrifice" XD I bet white will win XD
]
;B[do]BL[209.077]OB[4]C[desayuno [3k\]: nice
]
;W[hp]WL[42.615]OW[1]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: w points: 12 in top right, 2 points at bottom right, 21 points left corner, 4 points left, 11 pts center, 11 points top + 4 captures = 65 points
norsu [2k\]: small
Fishtank [5k\]: winning move
norsu [2k\]: d5 
aznb [9k\]: you never now what end game is going to yeild
aznb [9k\]: just wait for it
aznb [9k\]: the game is stilll up
]
;B[nj]BL[182.45]OB[3]C[goth [?\]: w is flawless in yose
NorthWind [7k\]: amazing W got enough points without any centre moyo. remarkable understanding of where the points are
]
;W[ps]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[pq]BL[173.892]OB[2]C[Javaness [-\]: score estimator is totally wrong :)
al1 [1k\]: remarkable 7k comment on 3p 
thekaiser [2d\]: lot of 7k's
Dogen [5k\]: R1 bigger, no?
nonochan [6d\]: yes, he is very good at that kind of game
Garuka123 [10k?\]: lol
Dogen [5k\]: why Q3?
]
;W[mj]WL[275.016]OW[9]C[Katsumi1 [20k?\]: boring 7ks
thekaiser [2d\]: the best lvl
]
;B[nk]BL[169.68]OB[1]
;W[mk]WL[268.688]OW[8]C[wanron [3k\]: r1
Iciac [7k\]: Yes.
thekaiser [2d\]: when you're dreaming that everything is possible
Begon [2k\]: W eye Dogen
Javaness [-\]: F6
]
;B[hk]BL[300]OB[10]C[sabin [5k\]: f6?
]
;W[ik]WL[264.587]OW[7]C[evanj [2d\]: f6 doesn't surround e7
norsu [2k\]: f6 or g6 
Javaness [-\]: it doesn't?
evanj [2d\]: no
wanron [3k\]: f6
Garuka123 [10k?\]: all the moyo at g7 gone :(
barakeel [2d\]: r1
Dogen [5k\]: he's looking at a different game...
evanj [2d\]: w can get out
Tetriste [-\]: g6?
ZorroR [2k\]: c13
ZorroR [2k\]: f6
goth [?\]: f6 big
Javaness [-\]: still f6 is good move
Clynch7 [4k\]: f6
barakeel [2d\]: r1 is like 6 point
aznb [9k\]: like there was moyo at g7 in the first place
Clynch7 [4k\]: j3 big aswell
Mephist0 [?\]: whats wrong with W f7?
]
;B[qs]BL[228.445]OB[9]C[aznb [9k\]: i doubt white could have secured that
Garuka123 [10k?\]: looked securablish before d5...
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 18 pt corner, + 11 pt bottom, 8 pt side, 11 pt corner, 7 pts top = 55 - komi = 49.5 to white 65 = win by 15 points
desayuno [3k\]: c13 looks big
]
;W[ok]WL[213.611]OW[6]C[evanj [2d\]: +2 captures
]
;B[oj]BL[224.557]OB[8]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: ah yes 
Dogen [5k\]: A11 - does it work for B?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: then 13 points, or 12 points
]
;W[gm]WL[195.567]OW[5]C[k43r [1d\]: s11 is quite big
Nomadic [?\]: +2captures for b
]
;B[fi]BL[213.77]OB[7]C[Clynch7 [4k\]: i think it will come down to about +10 fo 
Clynch7 [4k\]: r 
Clynch7 [4k\]: w
]
;W[gi]WL[187.192]OW[4]C[ZorroR [2k\]: c13
]
;B[jc]BL[195.434]OB[6]
;W[jb]WL[184.658]OW[3]
;B[ri]BL[183.513]OB[5]C[Iciac [7k\]: o4
harlej9 [-\]: b f6
]
;W[el]WL[169.001]OW[2]
;B[ek]BL[180.659]OB[4]
;W[qi]WL[167.213]OW[1]
;B[kg]BL[169.693]OB[3]C[Clynch7 [4k\]: b can win match if real good result in ko
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: w is already plainning his next game
Javaness [-\]: white yose too weak
Nomadic [?\]: a5
]
;W[kh]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[ri]BL[167.607]OB[2]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: i stil count w +12.5
ingenuous [4d\]: black is ahead ?
]
;W[sj]WL[292.556]OW[9]
;B[sl]BL[164.355]OB[1]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: no
danigabi [5d\]: i think w slightly ahead
]
;W[qi]WL[290.075]OW[8]
;B[ic]BL[300]OB[10]C[danigabi [5d\]: 5 -6 points
Javaness [-\]: why not play C13 at once
fesq: obl w win
]
;W[ib]WL[287.09]OW[7]
;B[ri]BL[296.833]OB[9]C[Javaness [-\]: is good exchange no
ingenuous [4d\]: less imo
harlej9 [-\]: I d say that it's the eendgame now
]
;W[sh]WL[280.052]OW[6]C[arindam [5k\]: just t12?
arindam [5k\]: yeah
Clynch7 [4k\]: i dont know
Clynch7 [4k\]: b can win this
Clynch7 [4k\]: with sente
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 12 points too much
wanron [3k\]: d4
NorthWind [7k\]: W so cool.knew he couldjust fill
]
;B[ho]BL[267.568]OB[8]C[fesq: i have breakfast now
Clynch7 [4k\]: i bet B win the game
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: w is already having his desert
DerWitt [1k\]: very close game
Clynch7 [4k\]: c13 time?
DerWitt [1k\]: b stil can win
]
;W[dp]WL[221.025]OW[5]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: i don't call 10 points close
tobe30k [1d\]: dessert?
Clynch7 [4k\]: Lol
Clynch7 [4k\]: its no 10 points
Clynch7 [4k\]: its very close
Clynch7 [4k\]: +-5
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: w will clynch it
qgo [4k\]: F6
IlanKeshet [7k\]: SE is wrong
IlanKeshet [7k\]: count it yourself
Clynch7 [4k\]: lol
evanj [2d\]: i fear both SE and you are wrng
DiGigot [7k\]: SE always win
]
;B[cg]BL[222.371]OB[7]C[qgo [4k\]: F6
Iciac [7k\]: o4 sente
]
;W[bh]WL[217.453]OW[4]C[Javaness [-\]: big point
ingenuous [4d\]: 7k pwn you now ? ; D
]
;B[aj]BL[217.134]OB[6]
;W[ai]WL[210.671]OW[3]
;B[ak]BL[214.605]OB[5]C[tobe30k [1d\]: how strong is solaris? :)
desayuno [3k\]: 7d
Tetriste [-\]: 7d
quup [1d\]: egf 7d
ForceElite [2k\]: 7d european
Iciac [7k\]: a6
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: 7d
Joilari [9k\]: 7d
evanj [2d\]: 7d
erkkierkki [6k\]: 11d
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: lol
desayuno [3k\]: on kgs 9d
goth [?\]: 7d
kitten85 [8k\]: thats kgs how many dan
Tetriste [-\]: 7d
Bulbasaur [5k\]: 7d
Chrille [3k\]: 7d
yakotaki [1k\]: 7d
glimz [1k\]: 6.9999999999d
kitten85 [8k\]: oh
quup [1d\]: 7d
yakotaki [1k\]: 7d
PoonTAG [10k\]: 7d
]
;W[mf]WL[152.842]OW[2]C[goth [?\]: 7d
Warlord [2k?\]: 7d
Hachiko [3k\]: ...
hado [3d\]: 7d
tobe30k [1d\]: thx...
DigoB [7k\]: 7d
DerWitt [1k\]: how strong is solaris?
evanj [2d\]: i don't know
yakotaki [1k\]: 7d
barakeel [2d\]: 7d
Bulbasaur [5k\]: no problem
quup [1d\]: is w pro?
Fishtank [5k\]: 7d
DigoB [7k\]: 7d
arindam [5k\]: so guys i heard solaris is 7d
Warlord [2k?\]: 3p
minimoy [12k\]: i think we all know his level
iampuh [1d\]: you guys think you´re funny right
niark [3d\]: he's cpop
norsu [2k\]: since 7d is highest, it is difficult to compare
evanj [2d\]: yes
tobe30k [1d\]: solaris is kinda out
glimz [1k\]: 6.9999999999999+e1.0
Dogen [5k\]: man, all the idiots come out for kibitzing....
sabin [5k\]: no, p stands for pupil
Tetriste [-\]: iampuh, this is funny, I'm laughing
norsu [2k\]: d is for dino
KAMEHb [1d\]: W +2-5
Fishtank [5k\]: so b+3
evanj [2d\]: :D
limlim [3k\]: B
limlim [3k\]: B+3.5
Mutenroshi [-\]: b+2,5
aznb [9k\]: wow 
yakotaki [1k\]: W=3+.5e^-B+2
aznb [9k\]: what ahppened when i dc\\
holynec [?\]: JIGO!
goth [?\]: this game is close to ending and i will not even know how strong solaris is
evanj [2d\]: is that like jenga?
IlanKeshet [7k\]: seems b caught up a lot in yose
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;B[mg]BL[113.21]OB[4]C[Tetriste [-\]: we were discussing the strength of b, aznb
quup [1d\]: goth, you want another round of 7d? :p
]
;W[ne]WL[141.951]OW[1]C[Onmyoji [4d?\]: i count w+π
niark [3d\]: no hope for w
]
;B[me]BL[105.101]OB[3]C[holynec [?\]: solaris is 7d egf
aznb [9k\]: idk
]
;W[lf]WL[300]OW[10]C[aznb [9k\]: who is going to win
IlanKeshet [7k\]: nice tesuji
]
;B[og]BL[96.256]OB[2]C[Tetriste [-\]: no really?
glimz [1k\]: is he indeed?
aznb [9k\]: this is going to be soo close
Iciac [7k\]: oh nice tesuji
IlanKeshet [7k\]: very nice tesuji
]
;W[md]WL[288.012]OW[9]
;B[oe]BL[93.692]OB[1]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: that might have gotten w the win
]
;W[nd]WL[269.193]OW[8]C[limlim [3k\]: W+4.5
aznb [9k\]: where was the tesuji
barakeel [2d\]: o19
evanj [2d\]: i thought you said w was already like 15 points ahead, ilankeshet
aznb [9k\]: man i missed out
KAMEHb [1d\]: W+6
]
;B[ir]BL[300]OB[10]C[desayuno [3k\]: the two stones for the center
aznb [9k\]: just because of a stupid dc
]
;W[iq]WL[262.727]OW[7]
;B[ip]BL[296.377]OB[9]C[IlanKeshet [7k\]: I thought so too. b caught up a lot on yose
parhelion [-\]: i agree. i have W up by 4.5
mof [4d?\]: so seeing this, maybe black q14 should have been g3?
]
;W[hq]WL[255.504]OW[6]
;B[nm]BL[292.799]OB[8]C[sixsix [-\]: aznb you know you can rewind the game?
Javaness [-\]: do not underestimate the height of popic's powers
]
;W[oq]WL[240.919]OW[5]C[evanj [2d\]: why not?
mof [4d?\]: oh no I don't, they are very POPular with me
Katsumi1 [20k?\]: how high are they?
]
;B[nn]BL[272.392]OB[7]C[Warlord [2k?\]: cause they're arcane
aznb [9k\]: wait how you rewinnd
aznb [9k\]: the game
quup [1d\]: w+3 in my count
]
;W[go]WL[224.651]OW[4]C[evanj [2d\]: use the back arrow button beneath "close" in the top right part of the window
sixsix [-\]: arrows underneath the resign and close buttons
limlim [3k\]: W+6.5
]
;B[hn]BL[256.9]OB[6]
;W[in]WL[220.38]OW[3]
;B[io]BL[255.412]OB[5]C[aznb [9k\]: oh thanks
IlanKeshet [7k\]: 6.5 too much because F6 is wrong on SE
sixsix [-\]: :)
]
;W[od]WL[206.67]OW[2]
;B[oc]BL[253.098]OB[4]
;W[na]WL[201.141]OW[1]C[evanj [2d\]: you are so, so, SO welcome
]
;B[oa]BL[251.233]OB[3]
;W[ma]WL[300]OW[10]C[Fishtank [5k\]: but a5 is wrong too
IlanKeshet [7k\]: true
aznb [9k\]: thats a couple of points gone
norsu [2k\]: b lost so much here
quup [1d\]: need q13
Javaness [-\]: padada
evanj [2d\]: q13 is now two more points
Iciac [7k\]: huge
KAMEHb [1d\]: w strong in yose
evanj [2d\]: gote though
Alenchon [7k\]: q13
Dogen [5k\]: O19 gains nothing
aznb [9k\]: thats at least 3 to 4 points gone for balck
Dogen [5k\]: B had one point there, and W loses one point now at R18
aznb [9k\]: which are big at this point
Dogen [5k\]: assuming B plays Q19
Garuka123 [10k?\]: i swear it reduces a lot
sabin [5k\]: o19 gains a lot
]
;B[cj]BL[193.529]OB[2]C[aznb [9k\]: yeah
glimz [1k\]: o19 hugish
]
;W[bi]WL[293.61]OW[9]C[aznb [9k\]: only becasue this is end game
quup [1d\]: o19 3 point gote
LionelLee [6k\]: lol nvm dogen dun see it
higgsboson [2d\]: q13 little more than 2
DerWitt [1k\]: w ahead now, y 3,5 or so
Medice [5d?\]: o19 took away o18 and q15 and leave white with q13 which takes 2 points again
Warlord [2k?\]: q13
aznb [9k\]: damn
Onmyoji [4d?\]: ok
pliers [14k?\]: Good game
Garuka123 [10k?\]: gg
LovroKlc [4k\]: GOOD WORK aLEX
snam [1k\]: gg
solaris [-\]: thank you
aznb [9k\]: this game was awesome wish they would have finished it
Ryofu [12k\]: То-то же. Знай наших. )
quup [1d\]: nice game
brinlord: ura :D
NorthWind [7k\]: W awesome
breakfast [3p\]: thx!
IlanKeshet [7k\]: why finish it?
quup [1d\]: too bad for b
KAMEHb [1d\]: завтрак позавтракал...
aznb [9k\]: idk i would like to see the actually score in the end
herg [3k\]: respect
LovroKlc [4k\]: any commentary on gosensations? 
breakfast [3p\]: sorry if it was too boring :)
Ryofu [12k\]: хах 
snam [1k\]: when white lost?
Jjang [4k\]: lol w totaly crashed black
Alenchon [7k\]: boring?  :)
norsu [2k\]: let us know your estimate for points?
Jjang [4k\]: such a huge lead
IlanKeshet [7k\]: the tesuji put w over the top for sre
snam [1k\]: i mean black =)
Nomadic [?\]: w$10
holynec [?\]: too boring, i fell asleep
IlanKeshet [7k\]: that was at least a 5pt gain
Nomadic [?\]: w+10
Dogen [5k\]: O15 seemed to be the deciding move
nonochan [6d\]: W wins by about 8-9 pts
Jjang [4k\]: lol
Jjang [4k\]: huge lose for b
breakfast [3p\]: W+ 7 or 8
Garuka123 [10k?\]: really?
al1 [1k\]: thanks for nice game
Garuka123 [10k?\]: 8-9 points?
norsu [2k\]: thx
Jjang [4k\]: ya w+8.5
aznb [9k\]: damn
snam [1k\]: but where black lost his game??
IlanKeshet [7k\]: yay u guys can use se
Onmyoji [4d?\]: on board
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