(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[600]OT[3x40 byo-yomi]
PW[bigbadwolf]PB[hearts]WR[9d]BR[9d]DT[2009-09-09]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[urzadek [7k\]: hi
bigbadwolf [9d\]: hi again
hearts [9d?\]: hi
hearts [9d?\]: ^^
mucephei [4d\]: sweet
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]BL[587.266]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: ok
mucephei [4d\]: cardo! 200 pride points!
Adante [1k\]: I hope they do this every night/morning
CardCaptor [1k\]: sorry, gotta go work out
mucephei [4d\]: nooooooooo
]
;W[dc]WL[577.346]C[Solid30k [2k\]: waaaa hearts is b? hehe easy game
]
;B[dp]BL[582.069]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: ill put 20k on black
Addmiral [1k\]: suuu-wheat
mucephei [4d\]: pfff
CardCaptor [1k\]: ur choice to accept or not
mucephei [4d\]: no way
rats [1k?\]: thats a lot of kyus
CardCaptor [1k\]: ok
CardCaptor [1k\]: too bad
LeeJaedong [3k\]: lol
Narayana [5k\]: fight!
BuddhaCat [2d\]: can't believe "hearts" wasn't taken as a handle.
Shana [2d\]: hmm i think people gotta put stuff on w too
Planets [7k\]: 100 kgsbucks on hearts =P
CardCaptor [1k\]: then u don't get points until u beat me
Addmiral [1k\]: ill put a 20k on w
mucephei [4d\]: don't worry
mucephei [4d\]: i'll whoop up on you soon enough
]
;W[pq]WL[542.471]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: lol
mucephei [4d\]: and take back even more than 200
]
;B[ce]BL[578.677]
;W[ed]WL[538.048]C[Solid30k [2k\]: what is this fuseki ?
]
;B[ci]BL[574.185]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: i believe our score is 3-2?
Addmiral [1k\]: 1500's fuseki
CardCaptor [1k\]: recently
mucephei [4d\]: and then your nick will be negative!
ennui [6k\]: ye olde style
mucephei [4d\]: lol recently
mucephei [4d\]: forgetting my 6 wins before the 3-2?
Shana [2d\]: if a kgsbuck is worth as much as a yen then yall are poor 
mucephei [4d\]: xD
CardCaptor [1k\]: nope
CardCaptor [1k\]: don't remember
mucephei [4d\]: haha
mucephei [4d\]: i remember all
CardCaptor [1k\]: i just remember beating u in trollnament
mucephei [4d\]: lo
mucephei [4d\]: we didn't even play in that
royu [5d\]: b winning atm
CardCaptor [1k\]: and the King tournament
CardCaptor [1k\]: lol
ennui [6k\]: lol royu
Addmiral [1k\]: kgsbuck -> yen == yen -> dollar.
Solid30k [2k\]: royu how come?
mucephei [4d\]: lol you're losing your mind cardo
royu [5d\]: 4 moves to 3
mucephei [4d\]: remembering things you never did
deculture [1k\]: a trollnament i wasn't invited to?!
Solid30k [2k\]: haha smart!
CardCaptor [1k\]: haha
mint [4d\]: p17 
Addmiral [1k\]: f3
Narayana [5k\]: cant you counr?
]
;W[fq]WL[463.397]C[Addmiral [1k\]: :)
]
;B[dn]BL[570.306]C[mint [4d\]: surprising move
Solid30k [2k\]: no c3 pls i hate that move
zilong [5k\]: f3 prevents double wing?
]
;W[ip]WL[450.084]C[Addmiral [1k\]: yes
mint [4d\]: ah, the kobayoshi formation
mucephei [4d\]: kobayashi
CardCaptor [1k\]: that's not kobayashi is it
]
;B[po]BL[548.876]C[mucephei [4d\]: it is
ennuistic [1d\]: fail.
Thorvald [-\]: no
Estrella [5k\]: didn't kobayashi eat hot dogs?
mint [4d\]: a lot
Prelate [1k\]: lol
zilong [5k\]: lol
deculture [1k\]: haha
ennuistic [1d\]: i think this formation is not so good here.
Solid30k [2k\]: dude they say r6 is better here and dont play q5
hemb [?\]: who is they?
kwongloz [6k\]: whos they?
CardCaptor [1k\]: why?
kwongloz [6k\]: :O
mint [4d\]: old textbooks say so
kwongloz [6k\]: hah
Addmiral [1k\]: r7
Shana [2d\]: i like hotdogs with lots of ketchup :)
America [3d\]: textbook says Q8 now
Addmiral [1k\]: r 8?
flogo [2d\]: it's when K4 not J4
Erkkila [1k\]: in kobayashi opening there is w q16 stone
Solid30k [2k\]: q8 no way!
mint [4d\]: q7
Solid30k [2k\]: p5 imho
Addmiral [1k\]: r8
Estrella [5k\]: deep blue says knight to e4
ms2009 [-\]: q7
Narayana [5k\]: w rhinking hard, b casual
gre: i like italian hotdogs
SColbert [3d\]: not sure about pincer
SColbert [3d\]: since b has r16
SColbert [3d\]: rather take sente and play p17 
Addmiral [1k\]: b better player no?
ic7us [3k\]: tenuki and play p17
ic7us [3k\]: is what i like
Solid30k [2k\]: p17 is suicide
ennuistic [1d\]: typically q5 approach is bad against kobayashi.
Addmiral [1k\]: i stillsay r8
]
;W[qo]WL[318.829]C[royu [5d\]: time for t19 ear reddening move
]
;B[qn]BL[543.068]C[Addmiral [1k\]: ooh kyu move
]
;W[qp]WL[316.021]
;B[pn]BL[541.454]
;W[op]WL[315.355]
;B[pj]BL[538.372]C[ennuistic [1d\]: but since top right is black and not white, black can approach very nicely
Solid30k [2k\]: dude h3 is open
]
;W[nc]WL[298.598]C[mucephei [4d\]: o18
Vandal [4k\]: o17
SColbert [3d\]: :)
mucephei [4d\]: i meant o17 :P
SColbert [3d\]: w follows the right plan
jeffgo86 [6d\]: bbw got owned by time pressure last game. seems like the same is gonna happen again
]
;B[pc]BL[522.627]
;W[kc]WL[295.832]C[ennuistic [1d\]: very normal
Addmiral [1k\]: w behind already?
mint [4d\]: even
saru411 [1d?\]: w has komi
Solid30k [2k\]: i dont think so , time was not an issue
pfchawley [1d\]: do we know anything about hearts yet ?
mucephei [4d\]: i don't like W's kosumi top righr
ennuistic [1d\]: but maybe p16 would be better here.
America [3d\]: Q13 or L3 now?
]
;B[ef]BL[491.744]C[Euphony [3k\]: hearts is between diamonds and spades
]
;W[cd]WL[288.794]
;B[be]BL[489.011]C[ennuistic [1d\]: man. i have to be sharper on moves like e14
]
;W[hd]WL[275.497]C[Addmiral [1k\]: e14 seems slow
SColbert [3d\]: d2
Vandal [4k\]: d2
SColbert [3d\]: or q13
ennuistic [1d\]: its good because it concerns both sides moyo
mint [4d\]: very peaceful game
Addmiral [1k\]: L3/4?
mint [4d\]: wheres the kill?
America [3d\]: O15 ;p
yoyoma [1d\]: boring.  I call for L3!
mint [4d\]: L3 already
Shana [2d\]: mint, just wait 15 moves or so
Thorvald [-\]: b's sides always open
ennuistic [1d\]: if white played something like e13 it would be very painful.
Addmiral [1k\]: l3 too low
ennuistic [1d\]: l3 is a very normal invasion.
flogo [2d\]: d2 =)
manxomefoe [3k\]: W's upper side seems very solid
Addmiral [1k\]: q3 too strong for l3
Cassis0 [5d\]: o15? m16?
chombe [5k?\]: M16?
]
;B[ld]BL[387.785]C[Sampi [1k\]: wow
ennuistic [1d\]: because of p4, white has a problem area at o3
urzadek [7k\]: winner
MATb [2d\]: l3 will lose a game quickly
Addmiral [1k\]: o15
SColbert [3d\]: w may jump out at o15
]
;W[kd]WL[238.637]C[Addmiral [1k\]: q14?
brainiaq [2k?\]: hearts = hemmy?
]
;B[nd]BL[379.204]C[mucephei [4d\]: no
manxomefoe [3k\]: No.
ennuistic [1d\]: this is very interesting.
]
;W[rl]WL[232.29]
;B[pp]BL[375.476]C[mucephei [4d\]: hemmy korean, hearts chinese
Planets [7k\]: @
ennuistic [1d\]: oh...
brainiaq [2k?\]: okay
]
;W[qq]WL[222.114]C[ennuistic [1d\]: well now l3 is probably not possble anymore.
Sampi [1k\]: thats not true ennuistic
OrHey [18k\]: О,О
]
;B[rm]BL[348.593]
;W[lp]WL[212.506]C[OrHey [18k\]: О,О
craig [4k\]: can a move be both tenuki and tesuji?
manxomefoe [3k\]: Wow
DragonXiao [5k\]: now not possible..
]
;B[ql]BL[340.139]C[gre: is b moyoing the game?
LeeJaedong [3k\]: now it's not possible
ennuistic [1d\]: both players fixing areas in sente.
kingme2 [4k\]: that's not true
DragonXiao [5k\]: craig, no
petition [5k\]: m3 possible
xVengeance [9k\]: i think bbw is weaker now lol
fivelover [3k\]: i think this B  is strong
OrHey [18k\]: разве это не маленькие ходы?
America [3d\]: C3 now?
Addmiral [1k\]: m4 losing move?
EyeThief [3k\]: after winning naim?
ennuistic [1d\]: d9 area big
DragonXiao [5k\]: tesuji= best local move, tenuki= move elsewhere
MoguriOo [?\]: Нет.
Request [4k\]: не, не мальенькие
fivelover [3k\]: how strong?  no idea
ennui [6k\]: but dragon, it could be the best local move somewhere else
Request [4k\]: s8 - сильный камешек
]
;W[cq]WL[153.181]C[OrHey [18k\]: а, поняла))
MoguriOo [?\]: Не то, чтобы сильный. Просто мешает.
craig [4k\]: obviously fivelover
]
;B[dq]BL[337.062]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: m4 not big... 
]
;W[dr]WL[150.922]
;B[cp]BL[335.1]
;W[br]WL[149.484]
;B[bq]BL[333.687]
;W[cr]WL[149.257]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: if it's somewhere else, it's not local
Request [4k\]: это здоровое адзи )
MoguriOo [?\]: Нету его уже.
OrHey [18k\]: а зачаем был Q4
]
;B[lc]BL[319.501]C[LeeJaedong [3k\]: black has a fearsome moyo
Addmiral [1k\]: how many points is c3 played that way?
WildW [1k\]: big bad wolf needs more time
Request [4k\]: ну сейчас уже конечно нету )
kingme2 [4k\]: p16
ennui [6k\]: local to that somewhere else, i could tenuki from a fight to go play a tesuji in another part of the board
ennuistic [1d\]: wow.. no jump out?
vagabundo [1d\]: seems like black got too much
]
;W[ne]WL[121.748]C[Sampi [1k\]: m15?
DragonXiao [5k\]: hmm, that may make sense
Sampi [1k\]: wow, i didnt expect o15 at all
OrHey [18k\]: e[ ns))
ennuistic [1d\]: i thought g4 would definitely be good
OrHey [18k\]: ух ты))
SColbert [3d\]: this move seems wrong
DragonXiao [5k\]: certainly an unusual way of thinking about things though
]
;B[le]BL[296.852]C[Addmiral [1k\]: i thought o15 a few moves ago.
MoguriOo [?\]: Вот и драка.
ennuistic [1d\]: oo...
Addmiral [1k\]: p16
]
;W[od]WL[107.062]
;B[pe]BL[293.553]C[kingme2 [4k\]: take
OrHey [18k\]: О15 - похож на панику..
Addmiral [1k\]: b concentrated too much?
ennuistic [1d\]: now it gets very interesting.
mint [4d\]: make the ponnuki
SColbert [3d\]: w creates a heavy group
Cassis0 [5d\]: wow b wanna kill ponnuki
MoguriOo [?\]: Нет. Он расчитывал с ним M14 в сенте.
Tiesto [3d\]: n16 30 pts!!!
ennuistic [1d\]: looks very killable.
WildW [1k\]: ponnuki is ded
Prelate [1k\]: lol
DragonXiao [5k\]: dead ponnuki = 40 points!
Sampi [1k\]: lol dragon
WildW [1k\]: lol no, 20
SColbert [3d\]: o15 is definitely wrong
]
;W[mf]WL[64.801]
;B[ke]BL[287.988]C[SColbert [3d\]: l15
numuri [2d\]: white has no ponuki yet
OrHey [18k\]: ва...
SColbert [3d\]: w will suffer with this group
urzadek [7k\]: making a ponnuki while simultaneously playing tenuki wearing the tanooki suit = 50 pts
DragonXiao [5k\]: well, only 39 points if you actually ahve to remove it from the board
vagabundo [1d\]: half ponuki = 15 points
Shana [2d\]: kosumi=15 pts?
Addmiral [1k\]: take now
kingme2 [4k\]: l18
mint [4d\]: actually it's 3/4th of a ponnuki, so it's...22.5 points.
DragonXiao [5k\]: ikken tobi = 15 points?
Sampi [1k\]: now we're getting al mathematical
numuri [2d\]: lol
zilong [5k\]: ponnuki = 4 stones = 30 pts => 1 stone = 7.5 pts... EAT stones!
SColbert [3d\]: b has a followup at j17
DragonXiao [5k\]: tigers mouth = 22.5 points o.O
LeeJaedong [3k\]: no more like 3/5
Estrella [5k\]: mint so 1/4 ponnuki is...?
OrHey [18k\]: а можно ее наблюдать еще как-то?
LeeJaedong [3k\]: the black stone is still there
mint [4d\]: komi
Addmiral [1k\]: L13?
DragonXiao [5k\]: so if you capture 10 stones, you get 75 points o.O
Estrella [5k\]: lol
]
;W[kb]WL[40]OW[3]C[MoguriOo [?\]: Всмысле?
DragonXiao [5k\]: because each stone is 1/4 of a ponnuki
Request [4k\]: клонировать можно
]
;B[je]BL[268.266]C[SColbert [3d\]: h14 is a good point
OrHey [18k\]: ))) я клонировала))
Planets [7k\]: i like black ;/
ennui [6k\]: right dragon, and we haven't even gotten to the diamond of justice
xVengeance [9k\]: bbw's graph is dropping
kingme2 [4k\]: j16/m18
]
;W[ic]WL[40]OW[3]C[mint [4d\]: i like Black
SColbert [3d\]: j17....
Julian [3d\]: A move so bad it changes your rank graph immediately? :)
]
;B[kh]BL[257.564]C[eboesch [1k\]: nice 1/4 ponnuki at l12
kingme2 [4k\]: m18
EyeThief [3k\]: his info says "back in s hape baby"
Tiesto [3d\]: id be 10k if it did that
SColbert [3d\]: forces w to connect..
SColbert [3d\]: aim for h14 seal
zilong [5k\]: l12 nice
Addmiral [1k\]: i would m13 but I am wrong.
Planets [7k\]: poor w
]
;W[pd]WL[40]OW[3]C[mucephei [4d\]: this goes a long way to make black's left side awesome
]
;B[qc]BL[251.201]C[Narayana [5k\]: is lifting go stones good cardio?
DragonXiao [5k\]: good finger exercise?
MATb [2d\]: very difficult game
xVengeance [9k\]: ?
xVengeance [9k\]: what@!
]
;W[md]WL[40]OW[3]C[WildW [1k\]: only if you lift a ponnuki?
xVengeance [9k\]: that is the lamest question
Shana [2d\]: yes, since u have to run away from angry opponents, narayana
SColbert [3d\]: wow
Addmiral [1k\]: done
Addmiral [1k\]: new area.
kingme2 [4k\]: n18
SColbert [3d\]: that's a ballsy move
mint [4d\]: play with 50 lb stones, get fit.
]
;B[of]BL[224.386]C[numuri [2d\]: this ponuki looks like 50 pts for black now 
SColbert [3d\]: gives b more forcing moves
Sampi [1k\]: cant w connect at n18 ?
SColbert [3d\]: sure
Narayana [5k\]: n18?
Prelate [1k\]: lol
Sampi [1k\]: or even m18
SColbert [3d\]: that's gote and dame
mint [4d\]: wow, that's a big right side...40 points?
WildW [1k\]: difference in experience clearly evident
manxomefoe [3k\]: Maybe BBW is only 8d but has been extremely lucky?
]
;W[lb]WL[40]OW[3]C[Swilice [4d\]: o15 severly punished
MalRondon [9k\]: N18?
Cassis0 [5d\]: b strategy so proish
]
;B[np]BL[218.988]C[xVengeance [9k\]: what does proish mean?
numuri [2d\]: black uses this ponuiki to make right teritory
manxomefoe [3k\]: Proish:  Like a pro
mof [3d?\]: like polish, but from proland
just9x9 [-\]: lol mof
]
;W[oo]WL[40]OW[3]C[numuri [2d\]: :))
Sampi [1k\]: proish: (adj) of or relating to professional(pro)
manxomefoe [3k\]: Is proland in Europe?
]
;B[mp]BL[216.108]C[just9x9 [-\]: i wanna be from proland too
Planets [7k\]: broland
just9x9 [-\]: proland lies between choina and korea
kingme2 [4k\]: that would be north korea
urzadek [7k\]: the riders of prohan
EyeThief [3k\]: broland = san francisco?
Tiesto [3d\]: proland just sounds like a bad chinese accent
manxomefoe [3k\]: Broland is where Proland sends all of it's mentally handicapped citizens.
pfchawley [1d\]: lol eyethief
]
;W[lo]WL[40]OW[3]C[MoguriOo [?\]: there are some Russia between China and Korea
momoco [5d\]: b loves this move
]
;B[iq]BL[183.321]C[mint [4d\]: quantum physics is easier to understand than b's last few moves.
Addmiral [1k\]: thiss seems wrong
Addmiral [1k\]: for w
WildW [1k\]: lol
Denis19 [7k\]: how large Russia is there&
Thorvald [-\]: mint :p
Swilice [4d\]: I feel like bottom is gonna desappear with b magic
Addmiral [1k\]: m3 better than m5?
urzadek [7k\]: because quantum physics is easy to understand
]
;W[jq]WL[40]OW[3]C[MoguriOo [?\]: a little)
deculture [1k\]: quantum physics is no rocket science
Addmiral [1k\]: now w needs to kill n4
Hagios [2k\]: B asking what W wants (bottom) so B responds to damage it, right Mint?
DragonXiao [5k\]: it's more confusing than rocket science
Monowire [8k\]: h4? 
DragonXiao [5k\]: more theoretical
DragonXiao [5k\]: less substantial
deculture [1k\]: quantum physics is only confusing if you try to understand it. It's not hard if you just accept it.
LeeJaedong [3k\]: bbw must be tired...it's 2am here lol
Euphony [3k\]: if black gets something from this, I'm a turnip.
urzadek [7k\]: or if you have to bs a 30 page report about it
DragonXiao [5k\]: if you just accept something, that doesn't really do much for your cause, does it?
EyeThief [3k\]: maybe hearts is feng yun out for revenge
iluvgogogo: i agree with deculture... that's the way i got through college
WildW [1k\]: welcome to turnipland
LeeJaedong [3k\]: lol
Narayana [5k\]: -ish; suffix describing moderate quality of description , i.e. danish, proish, remedialish 
]
;B[nn]BL[88.138]C[ennuistic [1d\]: this move does look interesting.
ennuistic [1d\]: j3
Estrella [5k\]: DragonXiao: In the words of Feynman: Shut up and calculate.
sai1029 [1d\]: quantum physics fun stuff
kingme2 [4k\]: I don't see the way
xVengeance [9k\]: hearts is undefeated WOW
Monowire [8k\]: come on, place your bets: how many moves ahead did b read and decided to play o6? 
]
;W[nq]WL[40]OW[3]C[urzadek [7k\]: a lot
deculture [1k\]: 176 moves
Cassis0 [5d\]: 3
quasimoyo [1d\]: maybe some fat will beat him
ennuistic [1d\]: h4 way isthe simplelest.
]
;B[on]BL[71.198]C[jeffgo86 [6d\]: what is a fat?
]
;W[mq]WL[40]OW[3]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: o6 o3 p6
]
;B[nb]BL[67.826]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: 3 moves
urzadek [7k\]: what type of fat
urzadek [7k\]: hopefully not a trans fat those guys are evil
Monowire [8k\]: Cassis0 you r no fun ^^
WildW [1k\]: wooow
Sampi [1k\]: b aiming for n15 ?
Tiesto [3d\]: n14 is gonna get cut
just9x9 [-\]: essential fat and acid of course
jinkidie [14k\]: file allocation table
ennuistic [1d\]: if h4 h3 j5 j2 gh5 makes a nice center.
sai1029 [1d\]: obviously
royu [5d\]: chow yun fat
sai1029 [1d\]: while it is played
]
;W[ob]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[me]BL[61.009]
;W[mb]WL[40]OW[3]C[deculture [1k\]: how about a ko?
]
;B[nf]BL[58.234]
;W[kj]WL[40]OW[3]C[just9x9 [-\]: wow
deculture [1k\]: wow
mint [4d\]: that cutoff was a big deal
EyeThief [3k\]: wow
]
;B[ij]BL[51.44]C[just9x9 [-\]: so easy
mint [4d\]: WoW
Tiesto [3d\]: i said it ;p
Prelate [1k\]: oh man
ennuistic [1d\]: yeah, huge center soon.
Request [4k\]: nice
Lolilol [1k\]: huum wowo
Planets [7k\]: b monster
]
;W[dl]WL[40]OW[3]C[Swilice [4d\]: oh good luck w xD
]
;B[hp]BL[42.187]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: lol
DragonXiao [5k\]: our intramural flag football team name is awesome
Cassis0 [5d\]: now every stones make sense
royu [5d\]: go for global kill
]
;W[hq]WL[40]OW[3]C[EyeThief [3k\]: well even smartrobot got schooled
EyeThief [3k\]: by hearts
DragonXiao [5k\]: Chris Reis is our favorite blood elf
ennuistic [1d\]: this way is too conventional?
mint [4d\]: j5 j2 f7 ?
]
;B[fl]BL[13.344]C[mint [4d\]: nope -__-
mint [4d\]: cap cap cap
MoguriOo [?\]: dounle boshi powa
]
;W[dj]WL[40]OW[3]C[MoguriOo [?\]: double*
]
;B[cj]BL[10.3]C[Planets [7k\]: b moves are scarily ambitious
]
;W[ck]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[ek]BL[8.234]
;W[dk]WL[40]OW[3]C[manxomefoe [3k\]: This dies?
]
;B[fn]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[di]WL[40]OW[3]C[Estrella [5k\]: uglygroup
ennuistic [1d\]: wow.. f6 instead.
]
;B[ch]BL[40]OB[3]C[just9x9 [-\]: www.uglygroup.com
]
;W[dh]WL[40]OW[3]C[ennuistic [1d\]: now i wonder if black can do anything sneaky.
jeffgo86 [6d\]: holy this is like the definition of heavy
]
;B[dg]BL[40]OB[3]C[Hagios [2k\]: I don't see how B can profit by chasing, now
]
;W[eg]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[df]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[bj]WL[40]OW[3]C[urzadek [7k\]: 1) chase 2) ???? 3) PROFIT ?
]
;B[bi]BL[40]OB[3]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: i do
ennuistic [1d\]: eh?
ennuistic [1d\]: just by killing, basically.
DragonXiao [5k\]: he can kill it
]
;W[fg]WL[40]OW[3]C[Hagios [2k\]: urzadek: precisely.
]
;B[fi]BL[40]OB[3]C[zilong [5k\]: can use influence to damage top
Monowire [8k\]: lol urzadek. I did not know there existed Go Gnomes
]
;W[bl]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[aj]BL[40]OB[3]C[iluvgogogo: W still has B5 
]
;W[fh]WL[40]OW[3]C[mint [4d\]: cho chikun could get out of this easy, with sente.
Shana [2d\]: what does b5 do
]
;B[io]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ir]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[lm]BL[40]OB[3]C[ennuistic [1d\]: plus he already got very nice profit 
Planets [7k\]: wow....
ennuistic [1d\]: center huge.
iluvgogogo: threaten connection, maybe make another eye
deculture [1k\]: w gonna get swallowed up
Monowire [8k\]: death by resignation.
Hagios [2k\]: Hm, I see.
DragonXiao [5k\]: chochikun = the master  of the invasion
EyeThief [3k\]: requiem for a wolf
Estrella [5k\]: tough move
Cassis0 [5d\]: b let w accomplish whatever he wants... and then win 
Cassis0 [5d\]: Im so fan
jinkidie [14k\]: omg its huge
Swilice [4d\]: haha
mint [4d\]: b must be lee changho
]
;W[ak]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[bk]BL[40]OB[3]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: lol, i was thinking that too, mint
ennuistic [1d\]: not a chance.
Sampi [1k\]: he's chinese
]
;W[qe]WL[40]OW[3]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: so solid
Sampi [1k\]: cant be changho
]
;B[qf]BL[40]OB[3]C[Q161 [?\]: GO BBW!!!!
]
;W[bj]WL[40]OW[3]C[manxomefoe [3k\]: B is Lee Sedol.
WildW [1k\]: i want this
WildW [1k\]: =0
Planets [7k\]: b is a monster o_O
]
;B[ai]BL[40]OB[3]C[Hagios [2k\]: Well, Sedol isn't playing in the korean league so he has some time... :)
mint [4d\]: this is not lee sedol play, his play is bewildering and mad.
]
;W[gi]WL[40]OW[3]C[Tiesto [3d\]: i think hearts will be 9d? for sometime
mint [4d\]: like a rabid dog.
craig [4k\]: b is murray leftwicz
just9x9 [-\]: sad thing is, b will never get rid of his ?
ennuistic [1d\]: wow SE is also a big fan of B
DragonXiao [5k\]: lee sedol is a crazy monkey when he plays
]
;B[gj]BL[40]OB[3]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: most people
ennuistic [1d\]: entire bottom is dead =)
mint [4d\]: only Gu Li can tame him.
EyeThief [3k\]: maybe tartaric can do it
DragonXiao [5k\]: when they try to kill
EyeThief [3k\]: in a slow game
DragonXiao [5k\]: or rather
DragonXiao [5k\]: when they attack
manxomefoe [3k\]: If you win 10 games in a row as 9d? You should get an honorary 10d.
EyeThief [3k\]: otherwise we need himountain
manxomefoe [3k\]: Maybe 20 games.
ickypoo [5k\]: who is SE?
]
;W[fj]WL[40]OW[3]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: they don't try too hard to kill, just profit from attack
Prelate [1k\]: kgs should have titles
deculture [1k\]: b will lose eventually, oh they all do. A mistake here, a mistake there and once in a while it'll lead to a loss
]
;B[hi]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ei]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[gk]BL[40]OB[3]C[just9x9 [-\]: u get an honorary 10d? at  best :P
DragonXiao [5k\]: Lee Sedol? He goes for kill every time
mint [4d\]: if you win 50 games as a [9d?\], you unlock the purple crown.
TheSage [4k\]: SE is secret KGS player
ennuistic [1d\]: SE is 9d strong player.
TheSage [4k\]: ghost in the shell
Cassis0 [5d\]: lee sedol is a thin wolf
johnny [6k\]: isSE a robot?
EyeThief [3k\]: SE is legend that can kill groups with 2 eyes
]
;W[mm]WL[40]OW[3]C[Narayana [5k\]: Se doesn't need to count
]
;B[mn]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[km]WL[40]OW[3]C[TheSage [4k\]: SE is counting itself
ickypoo [5k\]: thank you
]
;B[ln]BL[40]OB[3]C[ennuistic [1d\]: game is already hopeless for white.
mint [4d\]: looks like right side is too much
Thorvald [-\]: will try to leave inside ????
]
;W[em]WL[40]OW[3]C[mint [4d\]: ??
Shana [2d\]: leave what inside
]
;B[go]BL[40]OB[3]C[Thorvald [-\]: live *
]
;W[hn]WL[40]OW[3]C[jinkidie [14k\]: live
Lolilol [1k\]: live*
Thorvald [-\]: sorry
craig [4k\]: eyes
craig [4k\]: leave eyes inside
]
;B[fm]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ho]WL[40]OW[3]C[mint [4d\]: this has good feelings for white...but is it enough?
]
;B[kn]BL[40]OB[3]C[Shana [2d\]: oh btw, se is awesome
Thorvald [-\]: k7 
xVengeance [9k\]: w+7.5
TheSage [4k\]: i wish i were as good as se
xVengeance [9k\]: go BBW
]
;W[bd]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[bg]BL[40]OB[3]C[SIsen [4k\]: i think SE can read very much aheac
just9x9 [-\]: b16 nice sente
SIsen [4k\]: *ahead
ngoin [11k?\]: who is SE ?
]
;W[im]WL[40]OW[3]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: Score Estimator
]
;B[in]BL[40]OB[3]C[rhuin [7k\]: soul eater
hena [4k\]: i can read very far ahead also, just very badly at the same :/
Julian [3d\]: Center territory never works... ;)
just9x9 [-\]: stone eater
TheSage [4k\]: you spoiled it... :-(
mint [4d\]: can't connect...
just9x9 [-\]: who? me?
just9x9 [-\]: :)
]
;W[gp]WL[40]OW[3]C[mint [4d\]: just eat it
kukulis4 [2d\]: big mistake by white
]
;B[hm]BL[40]OB[3]C[quasimoyo [1d\]: yes
mint [4d\]: is it game over here?? :(
]
;W[ih]WL[40]OW[3]C[just9x9 [-\]: lol mint thats his music
mint [4d\]: nope
]
;B[hh]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ig]WL[40]OW[3]
;B[ji]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[fo]WL[40]OW[3]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: it's not center territory 
]
;B[en]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[gm]WL[40]OW[3]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: it's center+ side+ corner 
]
;B[hl]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[gn]WL[40]OW[3]C[mint [4d\]: it's a galaxy
royu [5d\]: very close game I think
]
;B[gl]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ro]WL[40]OW[3]C[hena [4k\]: black playes like takemiya
]
;B[pb]BL[40]OB[3]C[Q161 [?\]: are you serious?
Ferushen [6k\]: not like any takemiya game i've ever seen
]
;W[ko]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[jo]BL[40]OB[3]C[royu [5d\]: i play go like shaq
kingme2 [4k\]: I haven't seen any
]
;W[kg]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[lg]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[jp]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[jn]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[jg]WL[40]OW[2]C[urzadek [7k\]: i play go like shaq shooting free throws
brainiaq [2k?\]: b plays like aaron carter
]
;B[lf]BL[40]OB[3]C[Estrella [5k\]: yose already
petition [5k\]: w 54 to b 98
deculture [1k\]: b is leading a little
deculture [1k\]: 10 points
Narayana [5k\]: yes you do royu, doesn't matter because your figure dominates, and attracts the ladies
petition [5k\]: sry, 68
Thorvald [-\]: b5 big
Planets [7k\]: bh14 ?
TigerW [5d\]: more than 10
goal3k [1k?\]: w+17,5
]
;W[hg]WL[40]OW[2]C[manxomefoe [3k\]: i was going to say petition...
]
;B[ad]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ac]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ae]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[bc]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[fe]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[ii]WL[40]OW[2]C[petition [5k\]: 6, 9 it's all the same really
kingme2 [4k\]: g15
]
;B[hj]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[bp]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[bo]BL[40]OB[3]
;W[aq]WL[40]OW[2]C[xVengeance [9k\]: w+22.5
xVengeance [9k\]: bbw making a come back
urzadek [7k\]: lol
]
;B[fd]BL[40]OB[3]C[ennuistic [1d\]: huh?
ngoin [11k?\]: :D
urzadek [7k\]: (se)
bigbadwolf [9d\]: thx
hearts [9d?\]: thx
lobo [-\]: great SE skills xVengeance
Thorvald [-\]: rooooooh
Shana [2d\]: aww
ennuistic [1d\]: nice comeback.
strong10k [-\]: what the
strong10k [-\]: isnt white + 22
Tiesto [3d\]: LOL
urzadek [7k\]: lolerskates
Thorvald [-\]: who counted ?
Julian [3d\]: No, SE is wrong. :)
Tiesto [3d\]: i love se
Tiesto [3d\]: se to have my babies
ngoin [11k?\]: anyone tell me who is SE ?
Narayana [5k\]: Se = stone eater
ennuistic [1d\]: somehow L7 and M10 made white territory.
EyeThief [3k\]: square enix
just9x9 [-\]: stone eater
Estrella [5k\]: how is se's counting some 40 pts off?
Planets [7k\]: stoned estimator
xVengeance [9k\]: score estimator
ngoin [11k?\]: is that a person?
nvhkvm: SE isnt wrong. It;s just incredibly strong
Narayana [5k\]: stupit editor
urzadek [7k\]: score exaggerator
Easytude [8k\]: secret ennemy
jinkidie [14k\]: not a person
just9x9 [-\]: yes a sweet girl that is counting every game on every move
strong10k [-\]: so not white + 22?
goal3k [1k?\]: score enlarger
Thorvald [-\]: j'aime bien sa courbe
ennuistic [1d\]: cause SE doesn't take crap from anybody.
strong10k [-\]: what is the score then
pfchawley [1d\]: any idea who hearts is?
lobo [-\]: look at your SE and count white points in black territory
urzadek [7k\]: score is b+res
Tiesto [3d\]: if i didnt have se then i would never know the score
ennuistic [1d\]: black + 15 is a solid guess.
Thorvald [-\]: à ce rythme, il sera vite classé top 1 KGS
lexansoft [3k\]: hmm so SE is wrong. But where on the board?
lobo [-\]: there are 7 which means only on that SE is cheating 14pts
manxomefoe [3k\]: himountain versus hearts would be epic.
kacago [4k\]: how do you count score?
ngoin [11k?\]: is smartrobot a real robot ?
manxomefoe [3k\]: Yes.
urzadek [7k\]: of course
ngoin [11k?\]: robot?Really
ngoin [11k?\]: amazing
manxomefoe [3k\]: Yes, from the future.
ennuistic [1d\]: six extra points at h15 and 2 extra at b7
just9x9 [-\]: lol manx
ngoin [11k?\]: :D
manxomefoe [3k\]: He heard Sarah Connor was a go player.
ennuistic [1d\]: i think one extra at t5
DevilBlues [4k\]: hahahahahaha
ngoin [11k?\]: so who is smartrobot?Anyone know?
lobo [-\]: yeah, SE favors w so bad now
lexansoft [3k\]: tx ennuistic
manxomefoe [3k\]: Smartrobot is a very strong player on KGS.
manxomefoe [3k\]: Do you want more information?
ngoin [11k?\]: but it is a person,right?
peasant: smartrobot is a chinese..
ngoin [11k?\]: ok
manxomefoe [3k\]: A chinese robot from the future*
Planets [7k\]: ngoin... robots can't be 9d
Planets [7k\]: go isn't chess ><
manxomefoe [3k\]: Robot can't be 9d in chess, either.
ngoin [11k?\]: i heard that there was a time that computer has defeated a pro in Japan
LevelNull [3d\]: i count 5,5 for black
manxomefoe [3k\]: Yes, on 9x9.
Planets [7k\]: sure it can manx
ngoin [11k?\]: i've read on Nespaper
mnoplol [1d\]: robot simply beats the best of human in chess anyway
manxomefoe [3k\]: How is it possible, Planets?
mnoplol [1d\]: don't need to be a 9d
ngoin [11k?\]: robot could be better than pro too,i think
Planets [7k\]: chess is just easier for a computer to solve than go
Estrella [5k\]: planets: be careful about the word solve
Estrella [5k\]: neither game is solved
Estrella [5k\]: neither will be
manxomefoe [3k\]: Chess isn't solved, just less variations for a computer to go through in chess.
mnoplol [1d\]: doens't mean the fact that it is wasier to solve is wrong
Estrella [5k\]: it's irrelevant though since no one is trying
mnoplol [1d\]: a lot of people in IBM is trying
manxomefoe [3k\]: I'm trying to solve the following: You+Me= ?
Estrella [5k\]: no one is trying to solve chess, trust me
deculture [1k\]: Destiny :)
mnoplol [1d\]: do more research Estrella
jeffgo86 [6d\]: a lot of people are trying. not really rich people maybe, but people
deculture [1k\]: Sounds like a good pickup line
Estrella [5k\]: do you understand the meaning of the word solve?
mnoplol [1d\]: lol
Planets [7k\]: all i know is that the best chess player in the world can be whooped by deep blue
mnoplol [1d\]: I rather not to assume that it is the best argumentation you can do.
manxomefoe [3k\]: What Planets means to say is computers are very good at cess.
manxomefoe [3k\]: No one will argue that.
mnoplol [1d\]: yes
Estrella [5k\]: Agreed.
mnoplol [1d\]: I am not talking to him
Planets [7k\]: chess is also a simpler game than go ^^
mnoplol [1d\]: yes
mnoplol [1d\]: a lot more simpler for computers
manxomefoe [3k\]: I'm hoping for a third match, but it doesn't seem like it will happen.
manxomefoe [3k\]: Anyway, my original point stands: Computers will never be 9d at chess.
Planets [7k\]: i still don't understand why bbw resigned 
Estrella [5k\]: chess ratings are elo anyways, lol
manxomefoe [3k\]: Exactly/ ;-)
Planets [7k\]: lol technicalities
Planets [7k\]: fine i guess you're right
Estrella [5k\]: 9999 elo maybe
deculture [1k\]: 9d at chess? What does that even mean
mnoplol [1d\]: just do a mapping from elo to dan
Planets [7k\]: like 2800 I guess
mnoplol [1d\]: roughly
manxomefoe [3k\]: Well, go uses ELO, too. But still, chess  is exclusively ELO and has no "dan" rating system.
Planets [7k\]: Why did bbw resign?
manxomefoe [3k\]: Because he was losing, I suspect.
Estrella [5k\]: toast was done
Planets [7k\]: f17 doesn't work?
Planets [7k\]: Or does it have something to do with G13 maybe?
mnoplol [1d\]: no
kukulis4 [2d\]: black+20
manxomefoe [3k\]: Not 20.
mnoplol [1d\]: just b won too much
manxomefoe [3k\]: More like 10, I think.
kukulis4 [2d\]: its strange how big SE miss
kukulis4 [2d\]: yeah, on board black has +20, but white 7 captures and 6 komi
kukulis4 [2d\]: so it will be about 7points black is ahead
deculture [1k\]: b is up by no more than 10
manxomefoe [3k\]: SE frequently misses big. I don't think it is too surprising.
Planets [7k\]: oh, I didn't see those little white spots of "territory" in black's moyo when using SE haha
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