(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[roln111]PB[ecstatic]WR[8d]BR[8d]DT[2009-08-15]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[roln111 [8d\]: hi
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]BL[592.157]C[ecstatic [8d\]: hi
]
;W[dd]WL[596.958]
;B[pq]BL[583.244]
;W[dq]WL[593.962]
;B[fc]BL[570.894]
;W[cf]WL[591.963]
;B[kc]BL[568.207]
;W[po]WL[587.429]
;B[qm]BL[558.55]
;W[ro]WL[575.545]
;B[np]BL[547.569]C[sai66 [?\]: hello everyone
]
;W[on]WL[567.088]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: hi
hoang90 [18k\]: hj:)
]
;B[kq]BL[517.354]C[sai66 [?\]: howw are you two today 
]
;W[pl]WL[551.777]
;B[qp]BL[514.963]
(;W[ql]WL[537.525]
;B[qo]BL[511.369]C[This cut is too good for Black. He is clearly ahead now!]
;W[qf]WL[509.099]C[weiqidevil [-\]: thats exactly, what i thought^^
]
;B[od]BL[497.929]C[poirette [1d\]: s5 is a joseki...
sombrerro [-\]: s5 is fine
]
;W[of]WL[498.045]
;B[co]BL[477.135]
;W[cl]WL[488.345]C[weiqidevil [-\]: of course it is joseki. but seeing it in this position is not normal
]
;B[cq]BL[433.106]
;W[cr]WL[481.196]
;B[dp]BL[431.473]C[poirette [1d\]: seemed ok in roln's eyes apparently
]
;W[bq]WL[479.863]
;B[eq]BL[430.156]
;W[cp]WL[479.117]C[weiqidevil [-\]: apparently, yes...
sombrerro [-\]: he seems to have done well on that side, i bet he wanted to try out some new idea he had
]
;B[dr]BL[412.292]
;W[cq]WL[477.477]
;B[eo]BL[410.304]C[evave [4k\]: s6 s7  big w move in middle game
weiqidevil [-\]: yeah. so whats wrong with Dontpoke's reaction?
sombrerro [-\]: nothing?
]
;W[dn]WL[429.184]
;B[do]BL[407.318]C[weiqidevil [-\]: right
]
;W[er]WL[427.231]
;B[fr]BL[404.708]
;W[ds]WL[426.516]
;B[fq]BL[401.918]
;W[mc]WL[422.3]
;B[nf]BL[385.603]
;W[pc]WL[405.897]
;B[pd]BL[377.867]C[bluetable [-\]: b should give white handi
]
;W[ng]WL[402.83]
;B[ne]BL[373.168]C[indianayk [5d\]: i believe r5 in liu of r8 would have been better
]
;W[kb]WL[389.502]
;B[jb]BL[345.209]C[poirette [1d\]: r8 seems fast
]
;W[lb]WL[367.348]
;B[jc]BL[341.893]
;W[qb]WL[352.363]C[Rocker [4d\]: kill
lemming [-\]: kill what?
Nemu91 [2k\]: think w live
Rocker [4d\]: b resign
duha: d18?
Nemu91 [2k\]: not yer rocker ^^
]
;B[og]BL[263.469]C[Nemu91 [2k\]: yet*
Leveret23 [15k\]: becsue D18 is small?
carlcarl: slow
gary1688:  both are good players
Nemu91 [2k\]: d18 not small
Machida [4k\]: Phew, just beat a 3kyu! and im actually 5kyu
exocett [2k?\]: p12
Dontpoke [-\]: good for you =\]
Nemu91 [2k\]: congratulations ^^
lemming [-\]: lucky day :)
Machida [4k\]: It is good! :D
Opul3nce [8k\]: smartrobot wants a game someone give it to him
marsuplami [?\]: why p13 in fact
schwing [1k\]: sais the 4 kyu o.O
]
;W[oh]WL[291.181]
;B[pg]BL[251.593]
;W[pf]WL[289.65]C[Machida [4k\]: d18 
carlcarl: ..
Machida [4k\]: n6 
]
;B[ph]BL[169.358]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: does b not need to escape with the two stones around Q13?
Leveret23 [15k\]: ...apparently yes he does
marsuplami [?\]: if he didnt p13 wouldnt have sense
es005k [4k?\]: would r12 have worked?
Genghis [2k\]: Who can read this out?  Do the whit q14 stones live?
]
;W[oi]WL[245.993]C[duha: apparently he think he can
duha: s
]
;B[pi]BL[150.887]
;W[pj]WL[242.33]C[Machida [4k\]: o12 p10 r10 @
Leveret23 [15k\]: he can make a massive jump...
Machida [4k\]: :D
Leveret23 [15k\]: ws11?
Nemu91 [2k\]: r10?
]
;B[nh]BL[111.574]C[Shinhan [?\]: b has to make a move..
]
;W[mg]WL[239.525]
;B[oj]BL[85.705]
;W[ni]WL[237.892]
;B[qj]BL[83.011]
;W[pk]WL[236.739]C[Machida [4k\]: see
Machida [4k\]: :D
]
;B[rg]BL[74.396]C[Machida [4k\]: He did my moves!
Shinhan [?\]: good job?
]
;W[rh]WL[228.096]C[Machida [4k\]: For sure!
Warfreak2 [5d\]: :-)
Leveret23 [15k\]: how is black better now than just playing R10 originally
]
;B[qg]BL[64.374]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: instead of O12
]
;W[rf]WL[226.682]C[Nemu91 [2k\]: is it work?
Machida [4k\]: s9 
Machida [4k\]: S-9 now
]
;B[sg]BL[42.268]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: s9 and white will r11
Akira2000 [1d\]: s9 everything dies
]
;W[rj]WL[214.656]C[Machida [4k\]: wait
marsuplami [?\]: i this seki
Dontpoke [-\]: no
Machida [4k\]: but can't you just atari it and kill?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: how can it be seki
Nemu91 [2k\]: seki??
carlcarl: ..........
Warfreak2 [5d\]: there are no shared liberties
Nemu91 [2k\]: can't be
Dontpoke [-\]: no inside liberties
Machida [4k\]: oh
Warfreak2 [5d\]: machida, it would be snapback
Machida [4k\]: lol
Machida [4k\]: shoot
sigapa [-\]: well done Machida he played as bad as you ;)
]
;B[mh]BL[11.748]C[Machida [4k\]: im blind
dmircea [1d\]: b is just dead
]
;W[lg]WL[198.918]C[lemming [-\]: ladder?
]
;B[lh]BL[8.135]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: no
Dontpoke [-\]: dont know
]
;W[kh]WL[179.61]C[Machida [4k\]: Black - r11 won't help?
Nemu91 [2k\]: no
]
;B[nj]BL[30]OB[5]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: white connects at s11
]
;W[mi]WL[176.406]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: ...
]
;B[li]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[mj]WL[175.369]
;B[kg]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[kf]WL[166.132]
;B[ki]BL[30]OB[5]C[Machida [4k\]: Why didn't black just continue the ladder?
]
;W[mk]WL[161.69]
;B[jh]BL[30]OB[5]C[Akira2000 [1d\]: it doesn't work I think
Machida [4k\]: look... now he's dead pho sho
lemming [-\]: didn't work
Nemu91 [2k\]: hard to read
Dontpoke [-\]: not hard
]
;W[lf]WL[139.248]C[Dontpoke [-\]: w alive
Machida [4k\]: k14 
Shinhan [?\]: yeah
Machida [4k\]: yea
Machida [4k\]: he;s alive
Rocker [4d\]: poor b resign
Knuthy [13k\]: S15? B will live, no?
Machida [4k\]: no mater what
Nemu91 [2k\]: w alive
Machida [4k\]: SIGHh
Machida [4k\]: i was rootingfor black too
]
;B[nb]BL[30]OB[5]C[Machida [4k\]: got too hasty at that ladder
]
;W[nc]WL[131.583]
;B[oc]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ob]WL[130.498]C[Akira2000 [1d\]: roln is a monster~
Hellhuman [4k\]: indeed :)
]
;B[ld]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[jf]WL[127.344]
;B[rb]BL[30]OB[5]C[duha: must learn to smoke weed too
Knuthy [13k\]: ):
marsuplami [?\]: r17
Hellhuman [4k\]: wonder when he became 9d :D
Rocker [4d\]: w resign
Nemu91 [2k\]: lol
Leveret23 [15k\]: Rocker explain
]
;W[ra]WL[51.412]C[pyron [2k\]: t13 group might connect alive
marsuplami [?\]: rocker said B resign W resign
Zugly [?\]: 'sarchasm'
]
;B[qc]BL[30]OB[5]C[gary1688: rocker is wrong
]
;W[pb]WL[42.324]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: t16
Lionking [2d\]: o19 
Rocker [4d\]: p18 will die or s14
]
;B[na]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ma]WL[31.631]C[Rocker [4d\]: maybe no
]
;B[qa]BL[30]OB[5]C[kintaro [1k\]: nice
marsuplami [?\]: ko
]
;W[pa]WL[23.761]C[bohica [4k\]: no ko
Nemu91 [2k\]: i see w alive =)
Rocker [4d\]: s17
]
;B[rc]BL[30]OB[5]C[Machida [4k\]: Should black resign?
masek [-\]: Rocky
masek [-\]: any bets?
Machida [4k\]: I mean his chances of winning are slim.
sophtpaw [4k\]: L19
Rocker [4d\]: privet comrade
carlcarl: nice
Oogway [2k\]: i think black should decide for himself ...
Shinhan [?\]: w has to l19
masek [-\]: Privet comrade
]
;W[sf]WL[30]OW[5]C[kintaro [1k\]: but blacke kill q14
]
;B[ka]BL[30]OB[5]C[marsuplami [?\]: hehe
Zugly [?\]: privet? is he a stick insect??
]
;W[nd]WL[30]OW[5]C[marsuplami [?\]: hoho
adem [1d\]: hopss
]
;B[oe]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[me]WL[30]OW[5]C[adem [1d\]: crazyyy 
]
;B[md]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[mb]WL[30]OW[5]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: privet is russian
Opul3nce [8k\]: i want seki within seki
Opul3nce [8k\]: but i don't think i'll get it
Zugly [?\]: I know, it was a pun - a play on words
Nemu91 [2k\]: semeai?
Q161 [-\]: rocker resign!
]
;B[lc]BL[30]OB[5]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: hahah
Machida [4k\]: so black can't ko with s11 r12 ?
ZeroCool [3k\]: b has quite some inside libs
marsuplami [?\]: T16 ?
]
;W[oa]WL[30]OW[5]C[maligo [4d\]: rocker seems to be playing call of duty...
]
;B[re]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[qi]WL[30]OW[5]C[adem [1d\]: big fight  ! 
sophtpaw [4k\]: semeai
]
;B[sb]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[sd]WL[30]OW[5]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: woah this is messy
sophtpaw [4k\]: seki?
]
;B[sa]BL[30]OB[5]C[Q161 [-\]: no way
Opul3nce [8k\]: not now
adem [1d\]:  mistake.. 
Lionking [2d\]: hanami ko
Opul3nce [8k\]: i think if he left t19 tthen maybe
exocett [2k?\]: t15
Rocker [4d\]: hi young croa dude
marsuplami [?\]: T15
maligo [4d\]: hi
]
;W[mf]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qa]BL[30]OB[5]C[SIsen [2k?\]: maybe roln is human?
Rocker [4d\]: came back from japan?
maligo [4d\]: long time ago..
Opul3nce [8k\]: or just baked now
Opul3nce [8k\]: look at the pic
]
;W[db]WL[30]OW[4]C[Opul3nce [8k\]: i'm sure he jsut did a few blunts
Rocker [4d\]: how many games did u win
maligo [4d\]: 4-4
]
;B[eb]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ra]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[nb]BL[30]OB[5]C[maligo [4d\]: 4 wins...
lyt: h17
inquire [?\]: s16?
]
;W[ec]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[fb]BL[30]OB[5]C[lyt: now
Rocker [4d\]: hmm  very good , dude
]
;W[hh]WL[30]OW[4]C[maligo [4d\]: :)
ecgotf [6k\]: w pro?
]
;B[kk]BL[30]OB[5]C[Hellhuman [4k\]: no
Machida [4k\]: Maybe?
]
;W[ik]WL[30]OW[4]C[Nemu91 [2k\]: no
coolbabe [5d\]: nah
]
;B[km]BL[30]OB[5]C[ecgotf [6k\]: b pro?
peasant: ama
Leveret23 [15k\]: is white dead now in the top right?
Machida [4k\]: What DAN rank is pro?
Machida [4k\]: 7-9?
Dontpoke [-\]: 1p
coolbabe [5d\]: pro amas
ganesha0 [2k\]: orange pro?
]
;W[im]WL[30]OW[4]C[Falkbeer [1d\]: w is not pro, only pro strength
chappy [5k\]: yes
Hellhuman [4k\]: Pros have their own "dan" "p"^^
Nemu91 [2k\]: who is ecstatic??
Zugly [?\]: me
maligo [4d\]: some china dude..
Nemu91 [2k\]: ^^
marsuplami [?\]: W cashing
]
;B[el]BL[30]OB[5]C[Machida [4k\]: why aren't the playing the KO?
Machida [4k\]: are they making ko threats?
lemming [-\]: because w has already lost this
]
;W[kp]WL[30]OW[4]C[coolbabe [5d\]: w death
Machida [4k\]: oh...
coolbabe [5d\]: no need to play ko there
Knuthy [13k\]: o18 killed him
coolbabe [5d\]: tooooooooooooooo many liberties
Leveret23 [15k\]: So white is dead in top rght?
]
;B[hl]BL[30]OB[5]C[marsuplami [?\]: yep
Machida [4k\]: i guessso
gary1688: game not over yet
]
;W[il]WL[30]OW[4]C[buggler [1k\]: 9d vs 4d game on too
Falkbeer [1d\]: it's 1000 step ko
gary1688: w lost the corner
Yippie [2d\]: 2-step ko
]
;B[jn]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[lq]WL[30]OW[4]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: What is falkbeer
Machida [4k\]: are step kos even worth winning?
PAUCHOK [?\]: 400 observers
]
;B[jp]BL[30]OB[5]C[jjermann [2d?\]: Machida: you have to count
]
;W[jq]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[kr]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[jo]WL[30]OW[4]C[Falkbeer [1d\]: it's a nickname of a random guy on KGS
jjermann [2d?\]: Machida: it is all about points
]
;B[ip]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[lp]WL[30]OW[4]C[Yippie [2d\]: if you win it by tenuki, yes
iTengen [3k\]: woah
Leveret23 [15k\]: I mean, what is teh 1000 step ko
Machida [4k\]: oh, yea i don't really understand you but whatever.
]
;B[io]BL[30]OB[5]C[iTengen [3k\]: what's the deal in the corner there
iTengen [3k\]: :/
]
;W[jr]WL[30]OW[4]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: on this board
Falkbeer [1d\]: upper right
ganesha0 [2k\]: W is ahead now?
lemming [-\]: hard to say
monk316 [1k\]: b must be trying really hard no to let w create another ko
]
;B[ck]BL[30]OB[5]C[aware [1d\]: hmm
inquire [?\]: i think b is concentrating on winning, not avoiding kos
buggler [1k\]: w needs a lot of approach moves
jjermann [2d?\]: Machida: to be very simple lets say a n step ko is like 1/(2^n) of the value, so if that value is still worth something and there are enough ko threats around then you can play it 
]
;W[dk]WL[30]OW[3]C[ganesha0 [2k\]: c9...
nhhm [2d?\]: h11 will good for b
monk316 [1k\]: its 6 to 4 now?
]
;B[dl]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[cj]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[bk]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[cm]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[bj]BL[30]OB[5]C[Rocker [4d\]: our comrade doing very fine
amuna [3d\]: 1 approach
iaznab [-\]: jjermann, first someone needs to knwo what 2^n means
Hutoshi [8d\]: w will win
iaznab [-\]: before that is simple :P
iTengen [3k\]: ko looks good for b right now or what
]
;W[ek]WL[30]OW[3]C[sfrex [2k\]: i believe in 8d
Leveret23 [15k\]: 2^n istwo to the power of n
]
;B[fk]BL[30]OB[5]C[Nemu91 [2k\]: i believe in 8d too ^^
Leveret23 [15k\]: so if n is 3, 2^n is 8
]
;W[fj]WL[30]OW[3]C[Dontpoke [-\]: n=number
Warfreak2 [5d\]: i don't know from where this 1/2^n number was pulled
Leveret23 [15k\]: 2 cubed
]
;B[fl]BL[30]OB[5]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: more like 1/n
jjermann [2d?\]: oeh?
ecgotf [6k\]: more like sum 1/n
Rocker [4d\]: its a 1 step -lazy ko!
jjermann [2d?\]: Warfreak2: no?
]
;W[bo]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ej]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[en]WL[30]OW[3]C[Dontpoke [-\]: e6?...
Falkbeer [1d\]: then direct ko is worth the same as no ko warfreak
Hutoshi [8d\]: e10 nice
coolbabe [5d\]: c6
Falkbeer [1d\]: and it makes no sense
]
;B[fn]BL[30]OB[5]C[grobez [?\]: c11
]
;W[cn]WL[30]OW[3]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: if it's an n step ko then you get n+1 moves elsewhere on the board while i take gote n+1 times to win
nhhm [2d?\]: d10
Nemu91 [2k\]: has b any chance??? =)
]
;B[nr]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[lr]WL[30]OW[3]C[Dontpoke [-\]: yeah
coolbabe [5d\]: b already win
Warfreak2 [5d\]: so if i take gote n+1 times to make p points then the ko is worth p/(n+1)
Rocker [4d\]: hutoshi why u r 8d
ganesha0 [2k\]: wa
]
;B[go]BL[30]OB[5]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: so 1/n+1 by your logic
]
;W[jj]WL[30]OW[3]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: it's O(1/n), not O(e^-n)
jjermann [2d?\]: Warfreak2: no
iTengen [3k\]: ohohoho
]
;B[lk]BL[30]OB[5]C[sophtpaw [4k\]: Rocker was that a question?
iaznab [-\]: lol orders
iTengen [3k\]: tha't some sexy notation right there
Medice [4d?\]: what are we calculating?
Babibo [1d\]: and... What if you ignore n-1 threats, and then fight a direct ko  
jjermann [2d?\]: Warfreak2: you have to ignore n threats
Rocker [4d\]: yeah
]
;W[fi]WL[30]OW[3]C[iaznab [-\]: ordinal!
ecgotf [6k\]: O(1/n) is O(1) oh shiiii
Nemu91 [2k\]: rocker is jealous ^^
sophtpaw [4k\]: you forgot the ?
]
;B[ci]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[fd]WL[30]OW[3]C[Oogway [2k\]: lol
]
;B[gd]BL[30]OB[5]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: jjermann, if i ignore 1 threat, you get two moves elsewhere on the board
]
;W[ge]WL[30]OW[3]C[jjermann [2d?\]: eg 2 step ko
iTengen [3k\]: ecgotf, there's a finite number of intersections, everything ever is O(1)
]
;B[fe]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ed]WL[30]OW[3]C[sophtpaw [4k\]: hey, german!
jjermann [2d?\]: it is not 1/3 of the value
Leveret23 [15k\]: O(e^-n) ??? What nonsense
jjermann [2d?\]: but less
Oogway [2k\]: now you are probably feeling very smart sophtpaw
Dontpoke [-\]: h15 =\]
]
;B[hd]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ff]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[he]BL[30]OB[5]C[iTengen [3k\]: he's swiss
Warfreak2 [5d\]: jjermann, if you are going to say i'm wrong, argue against my facts, not against my conclusion
grobez [?\]: shut u^plz
iTengen [3k\]: not german
]
;W[ee]WL[30]OW[3]C[sophtpaw [4k\]: Oogway: Ugh... :/
maligo [4d\]: warfreak is actually mathfreak...
jjermann [2d?\]: I dont understand the value of the ko exactly
Msharingan [4k\]: b13
Rocker [4d\]: swiss german
Medice [4d?\]: what has big o notation to do with ko value?
jjermann [2d?\]: but I am pretty sure that 1/n is  wrong
]
;B[ir]BL[30]OB[5]C[masek [-\]: шарик или нонейм без картинки
masek [-\]: вот в чем вопрос
]
;W[ko]WL[30]OW[3]C[jjermann [2d?\]: the main thing is to think about how big a threat has to be
maligo [4d\]: ?
amuna [3d\]: w is locking ko material
Nemu91 [2k\]: w dead??
iTengen [3k\]: vot v chem volros!
]
;B[ii]BL[30]OB[5]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: if i win a direct ko, i capture the ko (that's a gote), you play a threat, i follow up (another gote) to resolve the ko and you follow up on your threat
iTengen [3k\]: vopros*
]
;W[hj]WL[30]OW[3]C[PAUCHOK [?\]: что за нонейм?
masek [-\]: черный
]
;B[mn]BL[30]OB[5]C[iTengen [3k\]: chtpo za noneem?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if it's a two step ko i must take 3 gotes, etc
DnFBlitz [1k\]: you're right of course, Warfreak ... however, O(2^(-n)) isn't the same as O(e^(-n)) :)
iTengen [3k\]: cherneye
]
;W[iq]WL[30]OW[3]C[ecgotf [6k\]: hahaha
Leveret23 [15k\]: schto za nonuenyi
ecgotf [6k\]: yes it is
Leveret23 [15k\]: cuerjiyi
]
;B[hr]BL[30]OB[5]C[Ilove3size [?\]: лолы
Warfreak2 [5d\]: dnfblitz, what planet are you from, where O(2^-n) is not O(e^-n)
iTengen [3k\]: lol
buggler [1k\]: they are slightly different
Leveret23 [15k\]: Woo, me and iTengen can both transliterate
iTengen [3k\]: haha
DnFBlitz [1k\]: slightly?
iTengen [3k\]: you guise are so funny
Batsteve [5k\]: the difference is ignored in Big O notation
]
;W[nq]WL[30]OW[3]C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: lol
buggler [1k\]: no it isnt batsteve
Ilove3size [?\]: ту зукумщвш уещ дщд
coolbabe [5d\]: b is not thinking good
coolbabe [5d\]: crroked
masek [-\]: это больно
coolbabe [5d\]: crooked
Dontpoke [-\]: whos math teacher here?
coolbabe [5d\]: trying impossible
]
;B[no]BL[30]OB[5]C[TKo [2d\]: Ko?
iTengen [3k\]: i have a degree in it from cambridge university if that helps
iTengen [3k\]: but so does warfreak
Dontpoke [-\]: I AM A MATH TEACHER
nhhm [2d?\]: who can do math homework here?
Dontpoke [-\]: SO LET ME CLEAR IT ALL UP
Leveret23 [15k\]: Well I have a degree from Oxford university, so mine is better
TKo [2d\]: me
schwing [1k\]: diploma in mathematics, if that helps
Dontpoke [-\]: M= MC^2
iTengen [3k\]: PSHHHHH
]
;W[oq]WL[30]OW[3]C[Dontpoke [-\]: E*
Rocker [4d\]: oh
iTengen [3k\]: get back to your CAVE
]
;B[or]BL[30]OB[5]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: FILTHY TABS
Oogway [2k\]: close to diploma^^
Warfreak2 [5d\]: oxford comes third in the UK for maths, after cambridge and warwick
iTengen [3k\]: 15k says it all
]
;W[lm]WL[30]OW[3]C[Rocker [4d\]: whos dead?
iTengen [3k\]: he's right down there with hull
]
;B[ln]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[kn]WL[30]OW[3]C[ecgotf [6k\]: high dan game new forum for academic pissing contest
ecgotf [6k\]: spread the news
siulongbao [6k\]: well i come from a land down under
iTengen [3k\]: :D
Leveret23 [15k\]: hahahahah
]
;B[ml]BL[30]OB[5]C[Rocker [4d\]: b resign
masek [-\]: вафли тут короче
]
;W[nl]WL[30]OW[3]C[starrk [9k?\]: warwick is that strong in math?  hrm
velther: dnf is right, cause O(2^-n)=/=O(e^-n) when ((O(2^-n)-O(e^-n))^2)/((O(2^-n)(O(e^-n))/(O(e^-n)^2)))
Warfreak2 [5d\]: yes, warwick is second in the UK
starrk [9k?\]: i always thought oxford was ahead
iTengen [3k\]: velther, wat
buggler [1k\]: O(2^-n) and O(e^-n) are two *different* classes of functions.  for example, 2^-n is not in O(e^-n)
Dontpoke [-\]: oh god.....
siulongbao [6k\]: m8 
Warfreak2 [5d\]: oxford is ahead in general, not specifically in maths
Leveret23 [15k\]: changes year to year
siulongbao [6k\]: then p4 
starrk [9k?\]: i see
TKo [2d\]: j6
]
;B[jm]BL[30]OB[4]C[Dontpoke [-\]: WE ONLY HAVE TO COUNT TERRITORY SO,,, I'LL POKE YOU ALL IF YALL DONT SHUT UP!!
]
;W[mm]WL[30]OW[3]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: plus in oxbridge, depends somewhat on your college
iTengen [3k\]: of course, by american criteria, the top 10 universities in the world are all in... america
Dontpoke [-\]: *POKES EVERYONE HERE! EVEN THE INNOCENT!!*
velther: no, dontpoke dontpoke
TKo [2d\]: dont poke
]
;B[nm]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ll]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[kl]BL[30]OB[4]C[Rocker [4d\]: w+10.5
Dontpoke [-\]: lol XD
]
;W[ml]WL[30]OW[3]C[Djerem [2k\]: e= ?
Leveret23 [15k\]: what does that even mean?
siulongbao [6k\]: p4 
Dontpoke [-\]: mc^2 
]
;B[mq]BL[30]OB[4]C[Djerem [2k\]: e^1 ?
PAUCHOK [?\]: и убиваемый станет убийцей
velther: e=the letter e, aaah aaah aaah
Leveret23 [15k\]: hahahah
Djerem [2k\]: no difference between these functinos...
masek [-\]: j7
Scar [1k?\]: game over
]
;W[in]WL[30]OW[3]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: need to start a new room
masek [-\]: позерать
Leveret23 [15k\]: maths room
masek [-\]: порезать и жрать
iTengen [3k\]: it exists
]
;B[hi]BL[30]OB[4]C[Dontpoke [-\]: so anyone paying attention to the game? :P
]
;W[gi]WL[30]OW[3]C[Nirdosh [8k\]: думаешь съест?)
coolbabe [5d\]: told ya
Leveret23 [15k\]: not really
masek [-\]: да норма
masek [-\]: с даме
siulongbao [6k\]: h13 
elder [-\]: чет намутииил )
]
;B[ig]BL[30]OB[4]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: tab-bashing is more fun
iTengen [3k\]: b's got it in the bag anyway
coolbabe [5d\]: even worth
]
;W[if]WL[30]OW[3]C[Clynch [13k\]: Who is winning this?
]
;B[hg]BL[30]OB[4]C[elder [-\]: везде все на грани)
]
;W[hf]WL[30]OW[3]C[maligo [4d\]: me
]
;B[gg]BL[30]OB[4]C[bluetable [-\]: dire situation
]
;W[hq]WL[30]OW[3]C[iTengen [3k\]: i don't believe this guy :D they've got him believing all sorts of rubbish about oxford
masek [-\]: там глаз нет
masek [-\]: сверху
masek [-\]: там ппц
Scar [1k?\]: g14 \\:
Msharingan [4k\]: g3
Rocker [4d\]: kill kill blood fest! 
]
;B[ho]BL[30]OB[4]C[velther: м глаз нетмутии чет намутиам гла
Msharingan [4k\]: lol
poirette [1d\]: game is turning into fireworks...
Oogway [2k\]: why not g14?
iTengen [3k\]: g14 does seem pretty big
comebeatme [?\]: bloody game
menikmati [3k\]: g14 is 3.5 ?
Scar [1k?\]: black keeps sente
comebeatme [?\]: w's dead every where
Oogway [2k\]: wouldn't that be much safer?
Nemu91 [2k\]: b+res
Dontpoke [-\]: g14 ->t12
ganesha0 [2k\]: R13 is dead
]
;W[gh]WL[30]OW[2]C[t0Strong4u [1d\]: r13 dead...
]
;B[fg]BL[30]OB[4]C[ecgotf [6k\]: r13 ko?
Oogway [2k\]: oh yes
]
;W[eh]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[eg]BL[30]OB[4]C[Scar [1k?\]: oh, didn't see :X
Rocker [4d\]: ?
]
;W[dg]WL[30]OW[2]C[Zsigmondy [4k\]: r13 dead.
globax [3d\]: j10
]
;B[dh]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[di]WL[30]OW[2]C[holycarp [-\]: tha best school is Howards
]
;B[ch]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ih]WL[30]OW[2]C[NoobLuv [4k\]: g14?
]
;B[jg]BL[30]OB[4]C[Nemu91 [2k\]: b wants to kill G12?
]
;W[ji]WL[30]OW[2]C[Dontpoke [-\]: alfrink college!! :D
Leveret23 [15k\]: They don't teach spelling there?
buggler [1k\]: nice
siulongbao [6k\]: g14 
siulongbao [6k\]: ?
masek [-\]: сожрал
buggler [1k\]: well done w!
Scar [1k?\]: black pawned
JTennent [9k\]: b inside stones looking deadish..
coolbabe [5d\]: see?
lemming [-\]: holy :)
psySpirit [7k\]: yess
sai66 [?\]: does anyone here want to play a teaching game with me i need to learn how to play go more
elder [-\]: да ужас)
]
;B[df]BL[30]OB[4]C[muchen1999 [5d\]: 11d is very bad
ecgotf [6k\]: seki?
]
;W[cg]WL[30]OW[2]C[context [6k\]: 2^(-n)=(e^(-n)^ ln2
lemming [-\]: no seki :)
Rocker [4d\]: b resign!!
context [6k\]: they are not the same big o classes
sophtpaw [4k\]: sai66: nah...
]
;B[gf]BL[30]OB[4]C[masek [-\]: протык будет делать
]
;W[fe]WL[30]OW[2]C[masek [-\]: г14
buggler [1k\]: we've already decided that context
gary1688: w w
masek [-\]: там на даме
velther: these aren't the droids you're looking for
masek [-\]: c15 
]
;B[ce]BL[30]OB[4]C[masek [-\]: гадость
]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[2]C[masek [-\]: делать будет
]
;B[lj]BL[30]OB[4]C[context [6k\]: it was decided?
buggler [1k\]: atari!!!
Cassis0 [5d\]: what's hapenning................
Djerem [2k\]: context, better to write : 2^n = e^(n*ln2) and that's it.....
context [6k\]: good
Dontpoke [-\]: OMFGGGGGGGGGGGG
EricM [3d\]: d15 ok for b?
Leveret23 [15k\]: is black dead in the centre now?
]
;W[nn]WL[30]OW[2]C[Oogway [2k\]: ??
dogtagnan [4d\]: nothing happens
blindman [-\]: timely
masek [-\]: происходит чудо
Hilarius [2k\]: nope
Dontpoke [-\]: HAHAHA
t0Strong4u [1d\]: wow...
Scar [1k?\]: d15 ?
Dontpoke [-\]: COUNTER
lemming [-\]: :)
Nemu91 [2k\]: d15
masek [-\]: d15 
holycarp [-\]: hopw weak using logaritm equivalencies
TKo [2d\]: maybe he kills the corner
Hilarius [2k\]: I wonder if B15 is enough :P
ipoel: lol
velther: d15 doesn't work you guys
gary1688: complicated fight
smartrobot [9d\]: this game is so popular, more than 500 persons watching...
]
;B[de]BL[30]OB[3]C[Hutoshi [8d\]: b13
Stones123 [4k\]: mad fight
Dontpoke [-\]: theyre just here for the matchaarguments
kiusasori [2d\]: f12 
KoReNJe [3d\]: game of luck?
Dontpoke [-\]: this mad fight theyre talking about isnt the game
ChristianB [3d\]: PLAY AND WE WILL BE OVER 9000
Rocker [4d\]: b15
]
;W[fh]WL[30]OW[2]C[JTennent [9k\]: c16 b12
]
;B[kh]BL[30]OB[3]C[buggler [1k\]: b12
]
;W[bh]WL[30]OW[2]C[smartrobot [9d\]: b wins
nanyo: what??? 9000?!
comebeatme [?\]: w wins
Warfreak2 [5d\]: there's no way that can be right
coolbabe [5d\]: just one liberty
smartrobot [9d\]: b
smartrobot [9d\]: i'm wrong
]
;B[bi]BL[30]OB[3]C[holycarp [-\]: i want to see chistianbale vs rocker shout fight
Rocker [4d\]: b15
Dontpoke [-\]: you got a virus i bet
sfrex [2k\]: smart is 2 strong
z4m3 [3k\]: I like this game :)
Dontpoke [-\]: first you misclicked now you read this wrong
]
;W[cd]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[be]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bd]WL[30]OW[2]C[Hilarius [2k\]: oh no
]
;B[bg]BL[30]OB[3]C[Nemu91 [2k\]: b wins
dogtagnan [4d\]: hmm
KoReNJe [3d\]: roln.... too much grass
miaaffa [8d\]: ......
Leveret23 [15k\]: come on - black must be dead in the centre now?
NoobLuv [4k\]: ^^
]
;W[gk]WL[30]OW[2]C[Nemu91 [2k\]: trust 9d ^^
siulongbao [6k\]: n5 
dogtagnan [4d\]: something happened :)
evave [4k\]: n5 
Stones123 [4k\]: b won
t0Strong4u [1d\]: n5 
jjermann [2d?\]: B5?
JTennent [9k\]: lol
jjermann [2d?\]: N5
smartrobot [9d\]: a virus invade me :(
]
;B[gl]BL[30]OB[3]C[NoobLuv [4k\]: 9d dont lie ^^
TKo [2d\]: he forget n5?
Nemu91 [2k\]: lol
Dontpoke [-\]: WHO PLAYED C16
nhhm [2d?\]: c18
coolbabe [5d\]: over
]
;W[hk]WL[30]OW[2]C[Moyoyoyo [1d?\]: b get n4
]
;B[mo]BL[30]OB[3]C[TKo [2d\]: ahhh
t0Strong4u [1d\]: wow...
KoReNJe [3d\]: lol
buggler [1k\]: over
TKo [2d\]: this or that
Dontpoke [-\]: c16 at b14 was better??
Moyoyoyo [1d?\]: err n5
Nemu91 [2k\]: OUCH
KoReNJe [3d\]: grass guy losin
]
;W[na]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[qa]BL[30]OB[3]C[Leveret23 [15k\]: ????
Oogway [2k\]: ?
]
;W[hb]WL[30]OW[2]C[coolbabe [5d\]: r19 i would pass
]
;B[hc]BL[30]OB[3]C[Thorvald [7k\]: yep
]
;W[ra]WL[30]OW[2]C[siulongbao [6k\]: k19 
]
;B[cb]BL[30]OB[3]C[Higanbana [?\]: so many strong players on kgs lately
comebeatme [?\]: mission impossible
]
;W[da]WL[30]OW[2]C[JTennent [9k\]: w crumbles?
Oogway [2k\]: i thought one should wait for  the ko until the end of the race
Clynch [13k\]: Black ein?
buggler [1k\]: w is stubborn
]
;B[bb]BL[30]OB[3]C[TKo [2d\]: look dead
coolbabe [5d\]: take the beating and resign
smartrobot [9d\]: b is a strong 9d i think
velther: here at krusty land, nothing can possibily go wrong
Nemu91 [2k\]: mourru de chez mourru XD
Msharingan [4k\]: lol
Warfreak2 [5d\]: not strong enough for you though, robot
ecgotf [6k\]: burn
Higanbana [?\]: you would play him evenly robot?
Arasham [4k\]: balèze ce b
Higanbana [?\]: or w handi?
KoReNJe [3d\]: b around 4d
Nemu91 [2k\]: GG
roln111 [8d\]: thx
ecstatic [8d\]: thx
JTennent [9k\]: play a game with him robot!
buggler [1k\]: ecs vs smartrobot
JTennent [9k\]: yes!!!
Rocker [4d\]: hey
Rocker [4d\]: what is this
comebeatme [?\]: go, go, go!!!!!
Dontpoke [-\]: ecs whoop his butt!!
Rocker [4d\]: why w didnt b15 and kill all b
NoobLuv [4k\]: robot ownz all :3
velther: kill all betrayers
ldsmonkey [2k\]: so cool
peasant: read carefully, rocker..
miaaffa [8d\]: b15 doesn't work
Dontpoke [-\]: robot is like the exterminator but your like,, the guy who beat the terminator?
Rocker [4d\]: why why why!
Higanbana [?\]: at what move rocker?
ganesha0 [2k\]: c18?
buggler [1k\]: not possible rocker
JTennent [9k\]: "I'll be black."
racine [1d\]: rocker : C16 captures
Scar [1k?\]: someone play robot :X
Warfreak2 [5d\]: w b15 did not work
k81 [3d\]: c16 is an atari perhaps?
buggler [1k\]: w has to answer the atari on d16 and then b wins on liberties
Dontpoke [-\]: w b14 worked
Warfreak2 [5d\]: b15 c16 d17 b14 b13 c18 c17 b16 b17 a15 
Dontpoke [-\]: w b14 worked b15 didnt
Warfreak2 [5d\]: b14 fails even faster
k81 [3d\]: Stop poking him :)
miaaffa [8d\]: b14 doesn't work as well
])
(;W[qo]
;B[pj]
;W[ql]LB[mq:A]C[This is the only way. White is very thick now and there are some weak points around A]))
