(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[Goh Ju Yeon 2p]PB[Andy LIu kgs 9d]DT[2009-08-15]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: game wil styart soon
hikaru567 [1d\]: ok =)
Coololol: its a trap
Schmidtt [11k\]: a tarp?
kcjstudent [5d\]: its startign in a minute
kcjstudent [5d\]: not a trap
kcjstudent [5d\]: nigiri....
kcjstudent [5d\]: Andy Liu Bigbadwolf is black
Schmidtt [11k\]: Is the game a part of anything?
yoyoma [1d\]: kcj, you sould set the players in the game info
kcjstudent [5d\]: Goh Ju Yeon 2p is white
]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[pq]C[elegantcow: how strong is andy
kcjstudent [5d\]: 9d
]
;W[dp]
;B[qo]C[elegantcow: ok lol
kcjstudent [5d\]: kgs 9d
]
;W[jq]C[yoyoma [1d\]: do they use a clock?
kcjstudent [5d\]: yes 30 30/5
]
;B[cn]
;W[fp]
;B[bp]
;W[cm]
;B[bm]
;W[bn]
;B[dm]
;W[cl]
;B[bl]
;W[co]
;B[dn]
;W[bo]
;B[ck]C[yoyoma [1d\]: I'm afraid to play this one as black
]
;W[nc]C[yoyoma [1d\]: I need to increase my belief in this sort of thickness  :)
hikaru567 [1d\]: i like white =X i wouldnt like to worry about that ladder for the whole game
]
;B[fl]C[yoyoma [1d\]: aha that's why black will probably fix it very very soon  :)
]
;W[qf]C[yoyoma [1d\]: see?  :D
hikaru567 [1d\]: lol there we go xD 
]
;B[oe]
;W[qc]
;B[cf]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: sorry
]
;W[fd]C[yoyoma [1d\]: kcj when you get a break can you put the players into the game info/
yoyoma [1d\]: oh it's there
]
;B[ef]C[yoyoma [1d\]: duh  :D
hikaru567 [1d\]: lol
elegantcow: lol
]
;W[ce]C[yoyoma [1d\]: I thought it would appaer on the top center
]
;B[bf]
;W[id]C[elegantcow: i like you yoyoma lol you're funny
]
;B[lq]
;W[pk]
;B[hq]
;W[hp]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: andy has 23 minutes
kcjstudent [5d\]: goh ju yeon has 27 minutes
]
;B[gq]
;W[gp]
;B[dr]
;W[dq]
;B[er]
;W[cr]
;B[iq]
;W[ip]
;B[jr]
;W[kr]
;B[kq]
;W[jp]C[dksfid: where do they play?
]
;B[ir]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: ny go center
yoyoma [1d\]: Is Hajin Lee 3p there also?
]
;W[fr]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: no
]
;B[br]
;W[cq]
;B[fq]
;W[eq]
;B[gr]
;W[ds]
;B[pg]
;W[pf]
;B[of]
;W[og]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: Ju Yeon Koh is NOT like the other pros andy has beaten before, my undestanding is she's an active pro and massively strong
holynec [?\]: May I ask what match is it? Enclave BBW vs pro? :\]
xedover [4k?\]: is this her? http://www.baduk.or.kr/information/info_player_profile_2dan.asp?gno=2618&ntn=1&gdiv=2
Violence [-\]: Massively strong?
Violence [-\]: I dunno about that
kcjstudent [5d\]: that is her
Violence [-\]: But she's active.
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: at least much stronger than the other pros at congress
Violence [-\]: I don't think so
kcjstudent [5d\]: any has played her two times and lost both times
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy*
Violence [-\]: Comparable, probably, and a bit stronger, but not much stronger, I think.
Hilarius [2k\]: compared to KGS amateurs korean 2p is pretty strong
fly [2k\]: duh
elegantcow: lol
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy has 17 minutes goh juyeon has 25
saodiseng [5d\]: what tournament is this?
Violence [-\]: This is Bliztsuck's sister, isn't it?
Violence [-\]: Koh Juyong's sister?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: no, he said they weren't siblings
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: but koh juyong is very nice guy :)
Violence [-\]: I see, he was joking with me then.
kcjstudent [5d\]: she is just giving a gift to the american go community before she leaves the country
scortius [6k?\]: ty from canada!
Shukai [1d\]: what is byomi timer length?
kcjstudent [5d\]: 5/30
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i hate 5/30... too short
Breaker [3k?\]: is this review?
]
;B[re]C[fengitreon [11k?\]: what tournment is this?
yoyoma [1d\]: thx for relay kcjstudent
mdf116 [1d\]: it isnt 
Breaker [3k?\]: this is wat
mdf116 [1d\]: just for fun
Breaker [3k?\]: well i just will watch becouse is andy liu :)
kcjstudent [5d\]: friendly game no tournament
fly [2k\]: wow, if only I could understand moves like s15
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: none of the conventional moves work...
]
;W[ph]C[Breaker [3k?\]: woa
Shukai [1d\]: white uber thick
Violence [-\]: I don't think you can affect the corner easily, since white has the S18 suji
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: now o13 then q17?
scortius [6k?\]: O_O chemboy4d?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i'll lose it soon, scortius ;)
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: it's not even solid :S
]
;B[oc]C[scortius [6k?\]: then, chemboy 3d? O_O
gryn [1k?\]: chem i don't think black can play o13 because then white can cut
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i think 1d-2d is more honest, maybe 3d if I have a really good day
kcjstudent [5d\]: Andy went to get his pepsi
scortius [6k?\]: ~.~
Breaker [3k?\]: pepsi :p
gryn [1k?\]: ew
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: maybe, but later o13 seems nice
gryn [1k?\]: pepsi
Shukai [1d\]: pepsi is the drink of choice for high dan?
Breaker [3k?\]: pepsi 
Kumoriha [3k\]: He should be drinking green tea =/
Breaker [3k?\]: pepsi sucks
scortius [6k?\]: how much he getting paid to advertise pepsi in go community?
Breaker [3k?\]: ok pepsi good
]
;W[rd]C[elegantcow: pepsi gooooood
elegantcow: fact
Breaker [3k?\]: better than coke :)
Breaker [3k?\]: pepsi rules!
Breaker [3k?\]: :D
cosmic5344 [4d\]: is this live?
Sophos [4k\]: coker better :X
]
;B[nb]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i actually strongly prever coke
Breaker [3k?\]: i like more sugar
gryn [1k?\]: no way it could die
Breaker [3k?\]: pepsi first
Breaker [3k?\]: ;D
]
;W[qe]
;B[ng]C[scortius [6k?\]: pepsi sweeter, yeah
hikaru567 [1d\]: im really tempted to go get a can of pepsi right now 
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: exchange
scortius [6k?\]: sprite the best
Breaker [3k?\]: im here i just have coke
Breaker [3k?\]: sprite is one of my favorites
]
;W[qg]C[Schmidtt [11k\]: now I'm thirsty =/
Sophos [4k\]: is the game even?
]
;B[kc]C[fly [2k\]: I so don't understand this game!
Breaker [3k?\]: who won that game
Breaker [3k?\]: ?
scortius [6k?\]: obey your thirst, schmidtt
cosmic5344 [4d\]: where/when is this play being plyaed?
]
;W[jb]
;B[cc]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: supposedly in NYC, right now
]
;W[dc]C[Breaker [3k?\]: that game looks like wt*
]
;B[bd]C[scortius [6k?\]: hmm
scortius [6k?\]: looks better for b overall?
Breaker [3k?\]: next move ?
scortius [6k?\]: ah, right, w turn
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i'm not sure
scortius [6k?\]: r7 ?
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy has lost twice to ko juyeon by resignation even game
Breaker [3k?\]: come on peoples
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: center not as big as you think
Breaker [3k?\]: next move?!!?
]
;W[kb]C[Breaker [3k?\]: like i see l18
Breaker [3k?\]: x|
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: this first i guess
scortius [6k?\]: s9 ?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: then back to r7
andrewshen [7k\]: what is this btw
Breaker [3k?\]: s9 nice?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: hard to ignore j18
fly [2k\]: b does not have eyes!
scortius [6k?\]: yeah
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: erm l18
Breaker [3k?\]: but
Breaker [3k?\]: and the  stones
Breaker [3k?\]: seems weak
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: s9 not sente... just points
]
;B[lc]C[Breaker [3k?\]: yea
andrewshen [7k\]: is this a live broadcast from somewhere
Breaker [3k?\]: after s9 so
Breaker [3k?\]: ;S
gryn [1k?\]: b has 2 eyes, otherwise it's hard to play go
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: can't allow white m17
Breaker [3k?\]: or o12
Breaker [3k?\]: :)
kcjstudent [5d\]: from nyc go center
scortius [6k?\]: ah, b still weak eh?
fly [2k\]: the 015 group does not have eyes yet
Breaker [3k?\]: w o12
scortius [6k?\]: h14 also nice for b?
]
;W[es]
;B[ge]C[fly [2k\]: whoa
cosmic5344 [4d\]: played at 11pm ? -.-''
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: e1?  really?
scortius [6k?\]: lol
Hilarius [2k\]: honte
kcjstudent [5d\]: we are all up late
mdf116 [1d\]: she didnt get back ot the center till 9 30
Timshel [1d\]: is anyone else still at the go center
Breaker [3k?\]: hey this was  kcj
fly [2k\]: makes the w group alive!
kcjstudent [5d\]: she is staying here
Breaker [3k?\]: he didnt e1
Breaker [3k?\]: !!
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: white looks alive to me?  is there something i'm missing down there?
Violence [-\]: I wonder if e1 is a declaration of victory
jSd [7k\]: it is live?
scortius [6k?\]: b2 stones dead no matter what
mdf116 [1d\]: Its live
Breaker [3k?\]: can someone
Breaker [3k?\]: get e1?
fly [2k\]: now
Breaker [3k?\]: ..
]
;W[gd]
;B[qm]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: unless white feels she is way ahead, i don't understand e1
GandalfTW [1k\]: e1 pretty big
]
;W[oq]C[Timshel [1d\]: no
Breaker [3k?\]: how?
GandalfTW [1k\]: i think about 12 points?
Breaker [3k?\]: whit p3
yoyoma [1d\]: E1 around 11 points gote...  6 + 12/2
Breaker [3k?\]: ?
Breaker [3k?\]: he have a plain
Breaker [3k?\]: ?
Hilarius [2k\]: I wish I had a plain
]
;B[op]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: well... it makes n3 sente i guess
fly [2k\]: Iowa is available
Violence [-\]: If I had a plain, I could have white mana.
captnapalm [1d\]: sorry what is this game?
gryn [1k?\]: doesn't e1 make p3 work better?
Breaker [3k?\]: e1 i dont understand
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: yea
]
;W[mq]C[Hilarius [2k\]: If I had a plain, I'd build on it :)
Breaker [3k?\]: maybe was a handicap stone?
]
;B[nq]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: e1 activates this aji
Breaker [3k?\]: for turns game more fun^^
]
;W[mp]C[fly [2k\]: capt: it's go!
scortius [6k?\]: ah.. b looking tons better influentially
yoyoma [1d\]: er wait I hallucinated...  ok I have no idea bout E1  :)
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: well
Breaker [3k?\]: for this e1?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: e1 makes l2 aji more annoying
Breaker [3k?\]: just for m2?
]
;B[lr]C[danigabi [6d\]: nice plan by w
]
;W[mr]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: seems so
]
;B[or]C[Breaker [3k?\]: dani
Breaker [3k?\]: explain why w e1
Breaker [3k?\]: ..
elegantcow: yeah
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: the aji of l2 i'm guessing
elegantcow: lol
fly [2k\]: dani: explain the plan?
scortius [6k?\]: so that w could do what w just did
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: otherwise white can't come in so easy
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy has 8 minutes ju yeon has 22
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: because then m2 and f1 are a kind of miai
kcjstudent [5d\]: andys pepsi half was full
elegantcow: lol
elegantcow: haha
Breaker [3k?\]: 0p
gryn [1k?\]: pepsi power up
elegantcow: pepsi ftw
Kumoriha [3k\]: Will it last until the end?
pinwheel [3k?\]: The sugar rush will hit soon! The the tesujis will flow like sweet, sweet pepsi
scortius [6k?\]: h10 ?
Breaker [3k?\]: pepsi is the best in the world
xedover [4k?\]: whoa, andy usually uses less time than his opponents
Breaker [3k?\]: classic drink
danigabi [6d\]: it does look strange , E1
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: DR Pepper is superior
Hilarius [2k\]: many things are better than pepsi in the world
Breaker [3k?\]: why not dani
danigabi [6d\]: it creates this aji of invasion
Breaker [3k?\]: ?
danigabi [6d\]: that is whites plan
]
;W[ql]C[Breaker [3k?\]: hmm
OnTheWay [8k\]: also e1 prevents w from having to take b2
Breaker [3k?\]: i see
Breaker [3k?\]: p3 was  the plain?
]
;B[ol]C[gryn [1k?\]: if andy wins, i would blame the pepsi -- if it were coke, that'd be another matter.
danigabi [6d\]: else wm2 would be no threat
danigabi [6d\]: now, that doesnt tell me that E1 is bigger than R7 at all
fly [2k\]: ty... sure wish I could understand this game!
Breaker [3k?\]: omg i really cannot see
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: e1 makes sense in retrospect... but i'd never find it in a game
Breaker [3k?\]: sry im suck^^
Breaker [3k?\]: ;D
]
;W[ls]
;B[ks]
;W[ms]C[Breaker [3k?\]: hmmmmm
danigabi [6d\]: i dont think e1 is good though
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: sente
Breaker [3k?\]: im understand
Breaker [3k?\]: now
Breaker [3k?\]: lOL
scortius [6k?\]: m4 
]
;B[gs]C[scortius [6k?\]: no
scortius [6k?\]: m5 
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: no, not m4
Breaker [3k?\]: no g1
Breaker [3k?\]: :D
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: no
]
;W[lp]C[scortius [6k?\]: -_-
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: live
]
;B[pl]C[danigabi [6d\]: L4
Breaker [3k?\]: s8?
danigabi [6d\]: then think
scortius [6k?\]: anyone else think this looks better for b?
danigabi [6d\]: is this match some kind of event?
Violence [-\]: I don't...
Violence [-\]: no, it's not
gryn [1k?\]: i prefer white
Violence [-\]: just a friendly game
Hilarius [2k\]: danigabi: just a friendly game
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i'm not sure
gryn [1k?\]: since it's white's turn
Breaker [3k?\]: or p9
Breaker [3k?\]: ?
Breaker [3k?\]: or just r9
Breaker [3k?\]: or tenuki
Hilarius [2k\]: I prefer white
cosmic5344 [4d\]: ive never heard of white
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i don't think tenuki is option
Hilarius [2k\]: because white is pro
cosmic5344 [4d\]: who is he/she
cosmic5344 [4d\]: ?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: she was at conress
Breaker [3k?\]: well fine
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: korean 2p
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: active
danigabi [6d\]: game looks reasonable
]
;W[qk]C[danigabi [6d\]: still not clear
Breaker [3k?\]: r9 so
Breaker [3k?\]: ;D
yoyoma [1d\]: In congress publications her name was spelled Ko Juyeon
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: seems reasonable for both
cosmic5344 [4d\]: o
Breaker [3k?\]: b k15?
cosmic5344 [4d\]: got it
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: did you get her on "the board"?
danigabi [6d\]: w stone wall at k4 is amazing
Hilarius [2k\]: any chance that white is just playing a teaching game? :P
]
;B[he]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: black seems too strong to play T game
weirdchess [5k\]: where is this game going on?  Sorry just got here
vagabundo [1k\]: I like black better
gryn [1k?\]: what 70 or so black? 50 or so white? center still very open
mdf116 [1d\]: thats definitly not possible
FlameBlade [-\]: the wall is amazing, but...feels limited by P8 and F8, no?
Breaker [3k?\]: center will be 0 points~^^
kcjstudent [5d\]: played at nyc go center
]
;W[gk]C[mdf116 [1d\]: ko and andy have played 2 times already shes trying her hardest
weirdchess [5k\]: cool thx kcj
scortius [6k?\]: gg
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: g9 is nice
fly [2k\]: wow, I would *never* even think of that mvoe
scortius [6k?\]: this will take b into yomi
]
;B[jf]C[fly [2k\]: tenuki!
scortius [6k?\]: -_-
]
;W[kp]C[yoyoma [1d\]: fly?  G9 is just the border of the moyo
]
;B[kr]C[Violence [-\]: And Chemboy, she's not much stronger than US pros, in the last Korean Judan last August, she lost to Jujo, who's around the strength of US pros.
scortius [6k?\]: jujo is 9d?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: really?  i heard she was stronger than most US Pros
Breaker [3k?\]: whos jujo?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i can always hear wrong though
danigabi [6d\]: ah..female pro
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy has 6 minutes ju yeon has 17
Timshel [1d\]: jujo is active pro tho isnt he/
fly [2k\]: yoyoma: I don't understand middle game at all
danigabi [6d\]: that  scares me less
]
;W[fk]
;B[ek]C[scortius [6k?\]: lol
]
;W[gl]
;B[fm]C[Shukai [1d\]: man it takes alot of power to make a flawless wall..
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: painful for black to play such a small move
Violence [-\]: Jujo's semi active, but he lost to Wang Lu last Jujo cup
OnTheWay [8k\]: eurogotv live coverage?
Violence [-\]: so I think his level is comparable with other US pros
gryn [1k?\]: yes obviously if you lose one tournament game that means you are weaker than your opponent.
JeansebL [2d?\]: ko juyeon, is stronger than us pros
Hilarius [2k\]: US pros who are not US pros :P
Breaker [3k?\]: whats diff of top 9p and 9p?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: breaker - maybe two stones
fly [2k\]: b winning?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: maybe one and a half
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: probably two
FlameBlade [-\]: cite your source, chem
Breaker [3k?\]: can tell me some "TOP" pros?
gryn [1k?\]: 9p and 9p? what country.
adoreme [-\]: not in Korea these days
Timshel [1d\]: cant possibly be two
Hilarius [2k\]: two stones is sick
Breaker [3k?\]: wow 9p  and 9p top alot of diference
gryn [1k?\]: also, what counts as 9p does a dead 9p count as a 9p?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: just what my wife says, and my understanding from that.
Breaker [3k?\]: i didnt notice that :)
xedover [4k?\]: top pros --> title holders
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: still two stones at that level is a whole lot
gryn [1k?\]: you can't get demoted you know.
]
;W[cb]C[Breaker [3k?\]: anyway top pros are very very strong
Breaker [3k?\]: =/
fly [2k\]: ah, tenuki!
adoreme [-\]: my teacher said currently the difference in Korea between new female pro and 9p is 1 stone
]
;B[bb]C[Timshel [1d\]: wow
]
;W[cd]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: yeah, something like that
]
;B[bc]C[Breaker [3k?\]: but a top pro 9p is hard to beat
Breaker [3k?\]: :/
fly [2k\]: b winning?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: except maybe lee sedol or gu li or some top top pro
Breaker [3k?\]: they are evils
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: maybe they are a bit stronger
Breaker [3k?\]: xD
]
;W[lg]C[danigabi [6d\]: sebastian what are you doing up so late? XD
gryn [1k?\]: white will win no doubt
Hilarius [2k\]: yeah I was just thinking that wouldn't 9p maybe give 2 stones to a newish 1p and still have his work cut out for him
fly [2k\]: dani
danigabi [6d\]: ah its noon there! lol im confused
Breaker [3k?\]: andy liu beats feng yun 9p but i think he cannot beat a really top pro 9p
fly [2k\]: dani: who is winning?
adoreme [-\]: up late? it is 12 pm :P
xedover [4k?\]: he can with practice
Breaker [3k?\]: not now
danigabi [6d\]: i think w is ahead, because of the mega wall at k4
Breaker [3k?\]: xD
JeansebL [2d?\]: (ko juyeon is stronger than feng yun)
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: adoreme is right in the thick of it... he probably knows better than us
danigabi [6d\]: but very close
gryn [1k?\]: no disrespect to danig, but you should try to determine that yourself!
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i feel white's reduction was too nice
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: black must o12?
Breaker [3k?\]: must m14?
danigabi [6d\]: w just too strong at m4
danigabi [6d\]: whites sequence at bottom was great..thanks to E1
]
;B[jh]C[danigabi [6d\]: but i still tink E1 sucks
Hilarius [2k\]: yeah
adoreme [-\]: i agree dani
Hilarius [2k\]: all thanks to the move that sucks so hard
fly [2k\]: doesn't b still have more profit?
Shukai [1d\]: its like the most efficient wall possible
Hilarius [2k\]: :D
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: black wants a middle... but no middle
Breaker [3k?\]: l15
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: e1 is a pro move, i think
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i'd never consider it
danigabi [6d\]: i refuse to believe its good
Shana [2d\]: lol
yoyoma [1d\]: :D
Breaker [3k?\]: go seigen must discusse e1
Hilarius [2k\]: maybe that's why she's 2p and your'e 6d?
Breaker [3k?\]: ^^
danigabi [6d\]: no
danigabi [6d\]: thats why she is 2p and not 9p
Violence [-\]: Haha
scortius [6k?\]: buuurrrnnn
Hilarius [2k\]: ahaha
Timshel [1d\]: lol
Violence [-\]: that's not arrogant at all
scortius [6k?\]: ..<
Breaker [3k?\]: lol
adoreme [-\]: ^^
Breaker [3k?\]: that was PLAFT
Breaker [3k?\]: x|
Violence [-\]: you sir, are a huge champion.
Hilarius [2k\]: kcj: please relay danigabis message to white at the end of the game
Hilarius [2k\]: ^^
scortius [6k?\]: whats plaft lol
Breaker [3k?\]: xD
danigabi [6d\]: lol
danigabi [6d\]: if it works this way, should work the other way :P
ckg [-\]: please be respectful of the players
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy has 4 minutes ju yeon has 13
Breaker [3k?\]: when you hit a face of someone
Breaker [3k?\]: does sound like plaft
]
;W[nh]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: PROS are must massively stronger than most of us, should respect that
]
;B[mg]
;W[mh]
;B[lf]C[scortius [6k?\]: lol
scortius [6k?\]: i see, plaft1
]
;W[rm]C[scortius [6k?\]: plaft!*
Breaker [3k?\]: whos le sedol?
Breaker [3k?\]: =)
holynec [?\]: i think massive refers to weight
holynec [?\]: lol
]
;B[qn]C[Violence [-\]: he's a French pro, Breaker
fly [2k\]: all this tenuki makes my head hurt!
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Korean pro
danigabi [6d\]: w too sucessful here
Violence [-\]: Le Sedol, also known as The Sedol.
danigabi [6d\]: oh now..
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: lee sedol is someone you how you never play
Breaker [3k?\]: he have some title?
danigabi [6d\]: white has T5 tesuji now
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: hahaha nice violence
Breaker [3k?\]: why never?
Breaker [3k?\]: i can pay^^
Breaker [3k?\]: x)
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: massive death
]
;W[db]
;B[fj]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: everywhere
]
;W[gj]C[Breaker [3k?\]: i played whit 8p
]
;B[gi]C[xedover [4k?\]: LoL, violence
Breaker [3k?\]: at the salom for free
]
;W[be]C[Breaker [3k?\]: so?
]
;B[ae]C[Violence [-\]: Is T5 better, or T6 better?
Breaker [3k?\]: ^^
danigabi [6d\]: G7?
adoreme [-\]: do you know teaching prizes per teaching game with high-level pros?
Breaker [3k?\]: a16
danigabi [6d\]: i think the usual is T5
adoreme [-\]: prices*
scortius [6k?\]: k7 for b?
]
;W[df]C[danigabi [6d\]: might be the same here
]
;B[dg]
;W[ee]
;B[de]C[Breaker [3k?\]: how much cho chikun wants peer hour $ teaching?
Breaker [3k?\]: :)
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: t5 because white doesn't mind the ko?
fly [2k\]: huh, after a16, no points in the corner
danigabi [6d\]: what ko?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: or wait
Violence [-\]: what ko?
Hilarius [2k\]: Lyon takes like 30 euros / hour
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: yeah :)
]
;W[ie]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: tooo late
adoreme [-\]: Cho Hye-Yeon 8p takes 400$/game
danigabi [6d\]: T6 might be better taking a second look..
Breaker [3k?\]: realy?
Hilarius [2k\]: Lyon is only 3p
Violence [-\]: Seriously, adore?
Timshel [1d\]: us dollars?
Breaker [3k?\]: no
Breaker [3k?\]: i mean like
Breaker [3k?\]: some honinbo
]
;B[fe]
;W[df]C[adoreme [-\]: yes she told us 
Violence [-\]: I didn't know Hyeyeon charged for lessons
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i thought t6 was the normal yose, but i have to read more
FlameBlade [-\]: hmmm
danigabi [6d\]: you are telling me i got a 400 dollar game from her for free?
adoreme [-\]: yes me to
scortius [6k?\]: ^_^
Breaker [3k?\]: how much the really champion TOp player can get 1hour?
fly [2k\]: $400? Ha!
Breaker [3k?\]: =p
]
;B[jc]C[Breaker [3k?\]: $400 ftw
adoreme [-\]: :)
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: top PLAYER and top TEACHER are two different things
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy has 3 minutes ju yeon has 10
Hilarius [2k\]: Breaker: you're assuming that the "really champion top player" actually teaches go :P
Breaker [3k?\]: but i think they can 
Breaker [3k?\]: teach^^
Violence [-\]: Lee Sedol owns a school
Violence [-\]: with his brother
Breaker [3k?\]: xD
Violence [-\]: so....
danigabi [6d\]: i went to that school
adoreme [-\]: Cho-sabomnim is one of the top female players :)
danigabi [6d\]: and le sedol never goes
Timshel [1d\]: lol
danigabi [6d\]: like once every many months
Breaker [3k?\]: i dun care if the top cant teach
Breaker [3k?\]: they can win
Breaker [3k?\]: ^^
Breaker [3k?\]: lol
Violence [-\]: Well, Lee Sanghoon at least teaches there
danigabi [6d\]: of course
fly [2k\]: soon w will take the center?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: hey, if any kyu player has a good understanding of mergers and acquisitions, i'll trade joseki lessons for M&A lessons
danigabi [6d\]: but lee se dol puts his name there only
digikid [-\]: lol
danigabi [6d\]: what is w considering.. j17 only move
Breaker [3k?\]: m ?
Breaker [3k?\]: hey 
Breaker [3k?\]: whats that 
Hilarius [2k\]: Chem: tempting, but no
Hilarius [2k\]: :P
fly [2k\]: w is reading something we don't understand
Breaker [3k?\]: ?
]
;W[ic]
;B[de]C[Breaker [3k?\]: ^^ reading wat?
Breaker [3k?\]: this game already played
Timshel [1d\]: no
Breaker [3k?\]: :0o
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy knocked stones off of the board accidentally
Shukai [1d\]: o no
fly [2k\]: ieee!
holynec [?\]: good thing we got this
holynec [?\]: ;)
danigabi [6d\]: nuclear tesuji
ARabbit [2k\]: lol
Shukai [1d\]: bbw wind attack
]
;W[ed]C[senchihiro [6k\]: ?
SunnyD [2d\]: reviewe?
gofan1234 [5k\]: white won?
randomnes [5k\]: or kill
randomnes [5k\]: upper left
randomnes [5k\]: 3  stone group
randomnes [5k\]: not seki
SergeyASh [12k\]: yes
kcjstudent [5d\]: Thanks For watching my hands dont move fast enough for the review
kcjstudent [5d\]: Good night every one
jipi1980 [11k\]: gn
]
;B[gm]C[xedover [4k?\]: he'd better go get another pepsi
patrickn [6k\]: lol
Timshel [1d\]: only a 9d can pull tht off
danigabi [6d\]: G7 looked somewhat sente for w
danigabi [6d\]: wonder why not play it
kcjstudent [5d\]: board is fixed
Breaker [3k?\]: j9?
danigabi [6d\]: then he would have n8 follow up for some center points
]
;W[il]
;B[hm]
;W[ij]C[holynec [?\]: superior vs zchen happening now
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy knocked stone of board yet again
GandalfTW [1k\]: there goes the white wall-advantage...
Breaker [3k?\]: is he superior?
]
;B[ba]C[fly [2k\]: b gets points in the upper left after all!
NoKnott [-\]: times please?
fly [2k\]: b wins?
kcjstudent [5d\]: 2 minutes for andy 7 for juyeon
NoKnott [-\]: thank you
patrickn [6k\]: looks like b winning by a lot, to a complete noob like myself
fly [2k\]: w has 60 (without komi), b has a little more?
scortius [6k?\]: w looking better since g9
]
;W[nd]
;B[ob]C[fly [2k\]: high dans? help out us confused folk
scortius [6k?\]: i think even w have a bit more
adoreme [-\]: i think white is fine
GandalfTW [1k\]: i think b wins
patrickn [6k\]: bottom wall looks strange
Sheeple [3k\]: it only needs to generate very few points
patrickn [6k\]: when i opened this game i saw the bottom and thought it was a demonstration of life and death problems
Sheeple [3k\]: b has less development possibilieties
fly [2k\]: No dan players wish to predict outcome?
gryn [1k?\]: fly, white wins
adoreme [-\]: as i said white is fine :P
fly [2k\]: um... meaning how many point win?
derp [1k\]: I think b+5-10
FlameBlade [-\]: think this will be close.
FlameBlade [-\]: personally, giving edge to black
]
;W[ke]C[adoreme [-\]: i would not say now how many points a win will be
adoreme [-\]: yet*
]
;B[kf]C[patrickn [6k\]: b+3.7
OnTheWay [8k\]: i think b will win b+5
gryn [1k?\]: i could see B+.5 but not any more than that.
scortius [6k?\]: m15 works?
kcjstudent [5d\]: 2 minutes for andy 2 minutes for ju yeon
WildW [1k\]: who is andy llu?
]
;W[kd]C[scortius [6k?\]: bbw
danigabi [6d\]: T5 is big
]
;B[ld]
;W[lb]
;B[mb]C[scortius [6k?\]: t5 ko ?
danigabi [6d\]: how is it ko?
scortius [6k?\]: t5 s6 t6 s8 ?
Sheeple [3k\]: n14 maybe?
scortius [6k?\]: lol nvm
Sheeple [3k\]: oh urgs
scortius [6k?\]: no ko
]
;W[df]C[jSd [7k\]: r16
yoyoma [1d\]: t5 t6 s6 s5 t7 t4 s4 ko?
]
;B[eg]
;W[cg]C[Timshel [1d\]: i think w would play t6 instead of t5
]
;B[ad]
;W[bg]C[fly [2k\]: whoa! someone explaing that?
]
;B[af]C[Timshel [1d\]: if b s6 , then t5 ko
Shukai [1d\]: time tesujis!
patrickn [6k\]: sooo can someone give the sequence if w t5 then b s6?
]
;W[ci]C[patrickn [6k\]: i cant see how thats not ko
scortius [6k?\]: wheres the ko timshel?
Timshel [1d\]: t6 s6 t5 s8 t8 
Sheeple [3k\]: oop.s this ko just got big
scortius [6k?\]: oh,, with t6
OrangeKyo [6k\]: b12
scortius [6k?\]: a18? 
scortius [6k?\]: if ko fail
OrangeKyo [6k\]: or tenuki
]
;B[ab]C[fly [2k\]: now what?
scortius [6k?\]: or now lol
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy has 12 seconds juyeon in byo yomi
Sheeple [3k\]: still fine, a18 minus point :)
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy and juyeon agreed no clock
cosmic5344 [4d\]: woah
kcjstudent [5d\]: no more time limit
fly [2k\]: could be a long game
OrangeKyo [6k\]: wait what does that mean? how will they ever finish?
Shukai [1d\]: they should make a deal either way
Sheeple [3k\]: nah, i bet yose is quick
yoyoma [1d\]: Juyeon spends 2 hours, reads game to end, forces 0.5 point win
Shukai [1d\]: slap some money down
kcjstudent [5d\]: when both players pass
kcjstudent [5d\]: and after all dame are filled
]
;W[fi]
;B[ej]
;W[gh]
;B[hi]
;W[fh]C[Sheeple [3k\]: so maybe w felt behind?
fly [2k\]: ack! makes my head hurt!
GandalfTW [1k\]: j14?
kcjstudent [5d\]: both players show signs of fatigue
patrickn [6k\]: j14 seems good, h11 might be in troubht though
fly [2k\]: h13?
Sheeple [3k\]: this reporting is top notch :)
OrangeKyo [6k\]: ya i love it
yoyoma [1d\]: thx again kcjstudent!
OnTheWay [8k\]: h13
henhen [6k\]: ?
]
;B[hh]C[henhen [6k\]: d12?
patrickn [6k\]: f14?
OrangeKyo [6k\]: keep guessing, you'll get one right eventually
patrickn [6k\]: probably not
Shukai [1d\]: unless white resigns
fly [2k\]: no time limit... guess I'll go finish my book
GGoban [15k?\]: f14
OnTheWay [8k\]: f14 makes the ko big
xedover [4k?\]: they're still playing, right?
Hilarius [2k\]: yes
kcjstudent [5d\]: still playing
scortius [6k?\]: whats times?
Hilarius [2k\]: they agreed to stop the clock
scortius [6k?\]: ohh..
Hilarius [2k\]: so there's no time limit anymore
scortius [6k?\]: cool
]
;W[od]
;B[pe]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: no time limit
scortius [6k?\]: b looking more and more full of holes
Sheeple [3k\]: b still leading by 2-3 points :)
derp [1k\]: I don't see anything w can do with g12
kcjstudent [5d\]: look closer
kcjstudent [5d\]: :-
derp [1k\]: okay :)
OnTheWay [8k\]: what about n15 m15 n14 o14 q17 ?
Sheeple [3k\]: i wonder which is more points for white o9 or n7
fly [2k\]: they move since I left?
Sheeple [3k\]: no. book done?
danigabi [6d\]: H14
danigabi [6d\]: captures 3 stones?
]
;W[pc]
;B[mf]
;W[hg]
;B[gg]
;W[ig]
;B[ih]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: Andy just knocked over some stones
Sheeple [3k\]: that wasn't pepsi
fly [2k\]: has he been drinking?
xedover [4k?\]: again?
Fredrik [-\]: is he drunk? 
scortius [6k?\]: the game is getting to him!
OnTheWay [8k\]: is he angry or worried?
kcjstudent [5d\]: thats the third time this game
coololol: whats up with pepsi?
Narayana [5k\]: where were the stones located.. on or off board 
scortius [6k?\]: someone spiked his drink
coololol: everyone talking about pepsi today
Sheeple [3k\]: so, w gote?
kcjstudent [5d\]: Its still half full
fly [2k\]: not half empty?
danigabi [6d\]: this is not gote for w
scortius [6k?\]: so, stones on board knocked or off board?
danigabi [6d\]: j14 sente
Sheeple [3k\]: ok
OnTheWay [8k\]: yeah talk about pepsi in a chat and get 5 Dollar an hour as well coolol
kcjstudent [5d\]: no more beverage commentary
]
;W[if]C[fly [2k\]: f13
]
;B[fg]C[Sheeple [3k\]: oh wow i thought sente on the j12 group
fly [2k\]: I'm a 9d!
Sheeple [3k\]: ah nvm
danigabi [6d\]: t5
coololol: i'd lol if w t5
danigabi [6d\]: why?
coololol: seems off
scortius [6k?\]: because your name have lol in it
coololol: l12 ?
fly [2k\]: b by 6?
Narayana [5k\]: after midnight kcj?
coololol: ah nvmm
Narayana [5k\]: when did game begin?
OrangeKyo [6k\]: k13
kcjstudent [5d\]: local time 1:21
]
;W[sn]C[about4d: let's laugh altogether now
OnTheWay [8k\]: so  w managed to force b to semedori with his invasion?
coololol: t5 =/= t6
Sheeple [3k\]: hm. i wouldn't know how to block this ever
yoyoma [1d\]: It's 1:21am in NY?!
scortius [6k?\]: t5 
fly [2k\]: 12:22
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: 12.22  nyc
holynec [?\]: is the club open this late?1
derp [1k\]: I count b+5
danigabi [6d\]: t5 is aheavy ko for black
kcjstudent [5d\]: being played on 5 inch board with legs
]
;B[so]C[derp [1k\]: g9 kinda floating now
scortius [6k?\]: was there other move to block?
SergeyASh [12k\]: why not s6 ?
danigabi [6d\]: S4
danigabi [6d\]: of course it cedes many points
coololol: g9 shape stronger than supaman
fly [2k\]: b wants to play ko with no time limit?
scortius [6k?\]: ah , yeah
]
;W[]
;B[]C[Shana [2d\]: eh
Violence [-\]: what?
OrangeKyo [6k\]: lol what
danigabi [6d\]: w passed he is very confident
Breaker [3k?\]: hey
Shana [2d\]: hax
Timshel [1d\]: huh/
Breaker [3k?\]: ?
kcjstudent [5d\]: mistake
OrangeKyo [6k\]: maybe club closed
WWWWWWWWWV [1d\]: b want white to res
kcjstudent [5d\]: sorry
Narayana [5k\]: and the croud goes WILD
Violence [-\]: Haha, I see
holynec [?\]: she
scortius [6k?\]: lol
Kumoriha [3k\]: Heh
coololol: where is the move?
coololol: i dont see it
Kumoriha [3k\]: So....black passed
scortius [6k?\]: they passed
scortius [6k?\]: score time
Shana [2d\]: w passed first
]
;W[ok]C[OrangeKyo [6k\]: lol
Kumoriha [3k\]: >_>
weirdchess [5k\]: if they both passed the score is like 6 to 3
]
;B[nl]C[scortius [6k?\]: oh, p9 pretty big
andrewshen [7k\]: nah they both read to the end of the game and realized w is all dead
NineDanPro: where is this game being played?
kcjstudent [5d\]: nyc go center
]
;W[ro]
;B[rn]
;W[sp]
;B[rl]
;W[sl]
;B[sm]C[Sheeple [3k\]: hmhmhm
fly [2k\]: yikes
]
;W[is]
;B[hs]
;W[rm]C[Sheeple [3k\]: good ko for w, yes?
kcjstudent [5d\]: kinda sorta
kcjstudent [5d\]: Big for both sides
Timshel [1d\]: w has way more threats
scortius [6k?\]: s17 
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: i've only been to nygc once
kcjstudent [5d\]: come more often.
freddygo [5k\]: what tournament is this?
danigabi [6d\]: if i get daniela a job at NY ill be a teacher at nygc XD
kcjstudent [5d\]: not a tournament game for fun
Sheeple [3k\]: it's the pepsi open
coololol: lol
Timshel [1d\]: do u kno when the next tournament there will be?
OnTheWay [8k\]: himountain playing
derp [1k\]: s4?
kcjstudent [5d\]: next sunday
kcjstudent [5d\]: tournament 
Timshel [1d\]: nice
patrickn [6k\]: s9
kcjstudent [5d\]: 23rd
kcjstudent [5d\]: tournament
holynec [?\]: himountain giving 3h to kghin!!
Timshel [1d\]: i mite come then
]
;B[rp]
;W[rk]
;B[so]
;W[qd]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: Game recorder has switched
]
;B[le]
;W[ro]C[holynec [?\]: what time does the club close?
scortius [6k?\]: deja vu
Kumoriha [3k\]: No ko =/
]
;B[sq]C[NoKnott [-\]: thanks first game recorder
kcjstudent [5d\]: generally at 10 pm
]
;W[mm]
;B[im]
;W[kl]C[Sheeple [3k\]: now, where to find the missing points w?
]
;B[jm]
;W[on]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: what's komi?
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: it seems like i always see bbw playing past midnight. -_-
kcjstudent [5d\]: Andy Inhaled deeply, as Goh Ju yeon switched sitting positions
OrangeKyo [6k\]: lol for a second there i thought chem was asking what komi meant
kcjstudent [5d\]: Komi is the compensation given to white fro playing second
xedover [4k?\]: lol
EpicNaruto [?\]: ...
Narayana [5k\]: ah the literal answer
Narayana [5k\]: and in this game it is ... ?
OrangeKyo [6k\]: lol ty kcj. now you know chem.
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: XD
NoKnott [-\]: scribe entered komi in the game info
kcjstudent [5d\]: 6.5 komi
Sheeple [3k\]: fast midgame slow yose. pff.
]
;B[jl]C[Sheeple [3k\]: 3 9d games. i can't keep up.
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: yose takes forever to play well
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i find it very challanging
derp [1k\]: wouldn't slow yose help you then?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: yea
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i always hat 5X30 time settings, it's too fast for my yose
nemoneko [4k\]: lol
derp [1k\]: I was saying that to sheeple, but I agree with you
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: I always play 5X1min BY, otherwise lose by time if i am in BY at yose
SunnyD [2d\]: sorry late to the party, what is the game about?
Timshel [1d\]: pride
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: we are lookin to see how W defends middle stones
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i put my vote for l10
SunnyD [2d\]: they playing live?
]
;W[jk]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: yes
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: pro proves me wrong
SunnyD [2d\]: face to face?
SunnyD [2d\]: isn't it late for andy
kcjstudent [5d\]: ITs a friendly match over a kaya board
kcjstudent [5d\]: U_U
kcjstudent [5d\]: its late for both
Sheeple [3k\]: real kaya huh? showoffs.
Nostalgy: lol
xedover [4k?\]: there's a kaya board at stake?
kcjstudent [5d\]: Goh Jo Yeon has left the room
SunnyD [2d\]: who is goh
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i like the live commentary
Sheeple [3k\]: getting a pepsi
kcjstudent [5d\]: She will likely be back shortly
xedover [4k?\]: http://www.baduk.or.kr/information/info_player_profile_2dan.asp?gno=2618&ntn=1&gdiv=2
ARabbit [2k\]: she's escaping
SunnyD [2d\]: this is in ny?
yoyoma [1d\]: anyone have pics from congress?
kcjstudent [5d\]: Yes 
kcjstudent [5d\]: this is in NY
SunnyD [2d\]: where is she sleeping tonight?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: sunny is that an appropriate question?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: :S
Shukai [1d\]: sounds like KGS stalking begins
SunnyD [2d\]: was she in congress?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: yes
kcjstudent [5d\]: Undisclosable information
AetherSoul [12k\]: hey guys, does a disconnection due to KGS problem count as a close-without-resigning?
]
;B[kk]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: you were at congress and didn't say hello?
holynec [?\]: now 4 9d games going
holynec [?\]: lol
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: aether, ask an admin
kcjstudent [5d\]: She came back
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: i'm pretty sure it does Aether
SunnyD [2d\]: ???
]
;W[ne]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: white wants to kill it all?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: or make exchange?
SunnyD [2d\]: when does nyu start orientation?
derp [1k\]: no, makes b connect to k12
derp [1k\]: or q18
]
;B[mc]
;W[nf]C[derp [1k\]: hmm
kcjstudent [5d\]: I am sorry I forgot htis was live for a second
kcjstudent [5d\]: Andy has now left the room
derp [1k\]: I don't understand these moves
xedover [4k?\]: how many people are there watching the game?
]
;B[kj]C[coololol: 2
Narayana [5k\]: quick step out for breath?
kcjstudent [5d\]: He is back now
Johnny5 [6k\]: I'm sorry, but what is this a deomonstration of?
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: a game at the new york go center
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: just exchange it seems?
luxfiat [4d\]: where is this game played?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: B gets better end?
bobstep [2k?\]: erinys on
]
;W[kh]
;B[jg]
;W[ki]
;B[ji]C[Johnny5 [6k\]: hmmm
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: white plays her forcing moves
Johnny5 [6k\]: So b is ahead by a few points, maybe 10?
]
;W[ml]C[iPwnNoobs [1k\]: the game is played at the new york go cetner luxifat
OnTheWay [8k\]: i hope for HM vs eryn
Sheeple [3k\]: i dunno, k10 should be worth a few.
SunnyD [2d\]: one more game after this?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: tough move to answer
]
;B[mj]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: or i guess not
]
;W[nj]C[luxfiat [4d\]: what? is 1 am in nyc
SunnyD [2d\]: what is the time on the clock, byo yomi for a long time now?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: they ditched the clock
Narayana [5k\]: no limit
luxfiat [4d\]: i thought the center close at 11pm
kcjstudent [5d\]: Usually it does
Johnny5 [6k\]: It's almost 1 AM in NY right now
Johnny5 [6k\]: that's crazy
kcjstudent [5d\]: Andy has stepped out again
SunnyD [2d\]: see, my sleeping arrangement question was very valid earlier
Johnny5 [6k\]: These are some dedicated players.  :D
NoKnott [-\]: SunnyD, please stop
Otacon [4k?\]: The cut at Q7 looks awfully dangerous for B to ignore
kcjstudent [5d\]: andy has gotten up
kcjstudent [5d\]: gameplay has paused
kcjstudent [5d\]: sorry
Narayana [5k\]: thx for commentary
Johnny5 [6k\]: Maybe b O9 and then Q7?
SunnyD [2d\]: is he coming back?
derp [1k\]: just q7 is okay, I think
asde: h16 sente?
kcjstudent [5d\]: juyeon has spilled her water on the bamboo mat
kcjstudent [5d\]: she has gotten up to get towels
kcjstudent [5d\]: no players are infront of the board currently
Johnny5 [6k\]: xD
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: haha i love the commentary
AetherSoul [12k\]: such detailed commentary... llo
andrewshen [7k\]: move some stones around
Ryuuto: hehe
Johnny5 [6k\]: Mizu no te?
SunnyD [2d\]: do they look tired?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: n9? is anyone's reading clearer than mine at this hour
Otacon [4k?\]: hand of water?
kcjstudent [5d\]: He is back his mother called
Narayana [5k\]: :)
SunnyD [2d\]: LOL
Johnny5 [6k\]: rofl
]
;B[pm]C[OnTheWay [8k\]: moms lol
randomnes [5k\]: why did black sacrifice the p15 group?
derp [1k\]: to capture g9
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: because he thought capturing k9 group was bigger
randomnes [5k\]: ah
danigabi [6d\]: wow
luxfiat [4d\]: k10???
danigabi [6d\]: what happened here
SunnyD [2d\]: water spilled
danigabi [6d\]: k10 doesnt work?
luxfiat [4d\]: b misread?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: k10 m8 
derp [1k\]: k10 doesn't work, I don't think
danigabi [6d\]: k10 m10 n11 h10 m11 j9 h9 j11 j9 h8 
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: black then has a kind of miai
danigabi [6d\]: there is also a funny ladder at M8
]
;W[mk]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: yeah
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: and this move elimates all of that
]
;B[li]
;W[mi]
;B[km]C[danigabi [6d\]: what a trade
derp [1k\]: w's k4 wall doing nothing
Johnny5 [6k\]: b connecting at m10 should have been safe.....right?
Otacon [4k?\]: Anyone here from Michigan?
danigabi [6d\]: derp: K4 wall captured Q16
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: I grew up in michigan
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i don't live there anymore though
SunnyD [2d\]: I am 100% natural Floridian orange
Otacon [4k?\]: dang
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: but i know the michigan go players?
Johnny5 [6k\]: I'm a Georgian living in Omaha Nebraska
Johnny5 [6k\]: =P
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: if that's what you're asking :)
]
;W[lj]C[Otacon [4k?\]: I'm just tryign to find people near me who plays.
Otacon [4k?\]: trying*
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: where in MI are you?
]
;B[ra]C[derp [1k\]: s19
SunnyD [2d\]: W is leading a little
Otacon [4k?\]: Detroit.
]
;W[pb]
;B[pa]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: there is a healthy club in ann arbor
]
;W[rb]C[danigabi [6d\]: m19 4 in gote
Otacon [4k?\]: ok
Otacon [4k?\]: thx
danigabi [6d\]: m8 2 in reverse sente
bobstep [2k?\]: erinys and highmountain going at it
derp [1k\]: I'm in ann arbor, haven't played in real life for a while
danigabi [6d\]: about same size
]
;B[qa]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: they meet thursday evenings and sunday afternoons at espresso royale on state street, last i was there
]
;W[hd]C[danigabi [6d\]: h16 1 in sente?
]
;B[hf]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: derp have we played before?  i played a lot at the a2 club before i moved
Otacon [4k?\]: thx
danigabi [6d\]: m8
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: no prob, otacon
danigabi [6d\]: then maybe E5
danigabi [6d\]: or O5
derp [1k\]: oh, I only played a couple of times, don't remember your face, but it was a few years ago
]
;W[do]C[Otacon [4k?\]: M19 looks good
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: m8 first
]
;B[eo]C[Sheeple [3k\]: i'd play k10
Otacon [4k?\]: why, M18 is absolute sente
Otacon [4k?\]: m19
]
;W[fo]
;B[en]
;W[ll]C[SunnyD [2d\]: very very close game
]
;B[jj]
;W[oo]
;B[np]
;W[no]
;B[ln]C[aez [13k?\]: Was there a handicap?
]
;W[la]C[Otacon [4k?\]: nope
Otacon [4k?\]: Andy is THAT good
]
;B[mn]
;W[nm]C[aez [13k?\]: just not proffesional yet I guess
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: also should undestand, as you get stronger, the point differance between ranks gets less
senchihiro [6k\]: n5 sente
SunnyD [2d\]: for what??
]
;B[ca]
;W[da]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: andy is either too old or not good enough to go pro... because it is THAT hard to go pro
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: my understanding...
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: he is still VERY good
derp [1k\]: think b+a couple
senchihiro [6k\]: for b
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: he def. can't go pro in china
SunnyD [2d\]: J9 worth something
Violence [-\]: I don't think he ever wanted to go rpo
Violence [-\]: pro^
]
;B[fs]
;W[er]C[anselmo253 [9k\]: how old is he?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: it's probably a smart decision
]
;B[po]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: he's 19
SunnyD [2d\]: very hard living being  a weak pro
Otacon [4k?\]: lol
anselmo253 [9k\]: how many a weak pro can earn?
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: age limit in china is now 15 for boys and 18 for girls, i believe
Otacon [4k?\]: Gotta get to 5p
SunnyD [2d\]: weak amateurs go pro to get into colleges
aez [13k?\]: O_O
]
;W[am]
;B[al]
;W[an]C[aez [13k?\]: how about in Korea?
derp [1k\]: f6
aez [13k?\]: if anyone knows
]
;B[fn]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i don't know about korea, i'm only familiar with china
Jishin [11k\]: He's 18 and I think he beat a 9p
SunnyD [2d\]: J9
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: he did, but not an active 9p... big differance
dogbert [3d\]: K6
Otacon [4k?\]: he beat an 8p at the US Go congress
]
;W[sm]
;B[so]C[derp [1k\]: j9 nothing
]
;W[ma]C[SunnyD [2d\]: didn't see E11
SunnyD [2d\]: lol
senchihiro [6k\]: e4-n5-o6-p7
]
;B[mo]
;W[ep]
;B[sb]
;W[sc]C[SunnyD [2d\]: .5 game
]
;B[nr]
;W[ns]C[anselmo253 [9k\]: how many$ can a pro earn?
]
;B[os]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: the top pros make good money, otherwise it's not that much
SunnyD [2d\]: about tree fiddy 
]
;W[lh]C[ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: i don't know a dollar figure
dogbert [3d\]: 400k for Ing cup
aez [13k?\]: the top titles are in the 3 figures
ChemBoy613 [4d?\]: but i know i'll make more being pro in something else
Otacon [4k?\]: lol
fly [2k\]: j9
TheMagic [2k\]: in the 3 figures? like $100?
aez [13k?\]: 3 big figures
Jishin [11k\]: I think he meant 6
TheMagic [2k\]: lol
aez [13k?\]: oh right
aez [13k?\]: no
]
;B[hn]C[derp [1k\]: b+1.5
aez [13k?\]: err well big figures
Kumoriha [3k\]: $100 for winning a tournament XP
aez [13k?\]: lol sounds like north america
TheMagic [2k\]: H6??
TheMagic [2k\]: must be a 9d move beyond comprehension
kcjstudent [5d\]: pepsi still half full
Kumoriha [3k\]: He needs a drink.
]
;W[jn]
;B[kn]
;W[jo]
;B[ho]
;W[go]
;B[sa]C[blackness2 [2d\]: kcj what counting are they using?
]
;W[de]C[SunnyD [2d\]: ...
]
;B[oa]
;W[qb]
;B[nn]
;W[om]
;B[lm]
;W[nk]
;B[pn]
;W[lk]
;B[ko]
;W[lo]C[Kumoriha [3k\]: Japanese, I think
]
;B[in]
;W[io]C[proxima [4k\]: has to be Chinese...
]
;B[gn]
;W[jd]
;B[je]
;W[na]C[TheMagic [2k\]: oh, lol
]
;B[md]
;W[me]C[TheMagic [2k\]: isn't J9 points?
Kumoriha [3k\]: Oh wait, maybe Chinese
TheMagic [2k\]: I guess not in chinese rules...
]
;B[kg]C[kcjstudent [5d\]: they are counting
FlameBlade [-\]: J9 not a point
Sheeple [3k\]: you can't have played right
FlameBlade [-\]: E11
SunnyD [2d\]: tell them B won by 1.5
Sheeple [3k\]: j9 kills now
FlameBlade [-\]: E11, guys
kcjstudent [5d\]: STILL COUNTING
kindredly [6k?\]: nice move.
]
;W[]C[Otacon [4k?\]: What's the Komi
kcjstudent [5d\]: STILL COUNTING...
Kumoriha [3k\]: 6.5
Otacon [4k?\]: thx
kcjstudent [5d\]: KOMI IS 6.5
aez [13k?\]: score estimator is only japanese rules though eh?
kcjstudent [5d\]: 44 TO 36
kcjstudent [5d\]: B WINS BY 1.5 POINTS
Kumoriha [3k\]: Whoo!
aez [13k?\]: ah just like score estimator
TheMagic [2k\]: nice
xedover [4k?\]: awesome
andrewshen [7k\]: good game
Otacon [4k?\]: gg
tburt [16k\]: gg
kcjstudent [5d\]: WITH KOMI B WINS BY 1.5
SergeyASh [12k\]: w j9 not seki?
randomnes [5k\]: ggg
kcjstudent [5d\]: ANDY WINS
TheMagic [2k\]: BBW is really somthing
xedover [4k?\]: pro killer
Kuros [8k\]: yeah .. what about j9
bERt0r [11k\]: g12 stones  are dead
Jishin [11k\]: e11
aez [13k?\]: Big bad wolf is Any Llu?
bobstep [2k?\]: not seki, f11 dead
jipi1980 [11k\]: j9 is not seki
Kuros [8k\]: right
kindredly [6k?\]: w j9, bh9 seki
Kuros [8k\]: >_<
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