(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[2]KM[-5.50]TM[1800]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
PW[KimSungRae]PB[danigabi]BR[5d]DT[2009-06-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp]C[danigabi [5d\]: Good luck
KimSungRae [-\]: hi
]RE[B+Resign]
;W[pq]WL[1787.139]
;B[po]BL[1766.889]
;W[cd]WL[1774.127]
;B[np]BL[1763.021]
;W[qo]WL[1767.559]
;B[pp]BL[1759.554]
;W[qp]WL[1765.836]
;B[qq]BL[1758.233]
;W[qr]WL[1755.26]
;B[rq]BL[1756.51]C[adoreme [-\]: Kim Sung-rae 4dan professional vs Gabriel Benmergui 5dan - Kingsbaduk weekly league
]
;W[rr]WL[1754.257]
;B[oq]BL[1754.574]
;W[pr]WL[1753.426]
;B[qn]BL[1752.578]C[blacklabel [1d\]: 4p dude
]
;W[rp]WL[1752.695]
;B[ro]BL[1751.462]
;W[sq]WL[1752.037]
;B[pm]BL[1750.706]C[blacklabel [1d\]: ?
xDragon [?\]: dragonxiao
xDragon [?\]: i won the kghin 7d bet
]
;W[qf]WL[1743.479]C[xDragon [?\]: he hit it june 14
DragonXiao [9k\]: >.<
adoreme [-\]: handicap 2 stones and 5 komi for black
DragonXiao [9k\]: i guess i was a little off
xDragon [?\]: i see you hit SDK also
DragonXiao [9k\]: 2 stones nad reverse komi?
DragonXiao [9k\]: =) 
adoreme [-\]: yes
RayTomes [1d\]: I worked out it would take kghin 2 more games
blacklabel [1d\]: once you reach dan level you will know all the hiiden rules od dan club ^^
adoreme [-\]: for more infos about studying baduk in Korea visit the KBC room under social :)
somosdios [4k\]: there's no study go in Japan group yet, but soon probably
]
;B[qh]BL[1636.572]C[xDragon [?\]: what rank would it be until its worth the trouble?
DragonXiao [9k\]: wow, that move took quite a while
agiito [11k\]: 3-4d maybe?
]
;W[ph]WL[1718.235]
;B[qi]BL[1633.245]
;W[pi]WL[1714.34]C[xDragon [?\]: ive got a while yet then
blacklabel [1d\]: dragonyiao good to see b tajking his time 
adoreme [-\]: i guess one can go at shodan level but it is a long long long way :)
Obamaniqua [1k\]: real kim sung rae ?
Ellimist [-\]: <--- shodan
AhSayuni [3d\]: it's his first time on KGS
blacklabel [1d\]: yes 4p
Obamaniqua [1k\]: nooo Oo
kaioshin [6d?\]: i don't like this board for black with 2 stones 
adoreme [-\]: our homepage: http://www.koreanbadukcongress.com/
Obamaniqua [1k\]: The Train like a pro writer 
AhSayuni [3d\]: Kim SungRae's
baldmonkey [1d\]: 1d kgs is noob rank
blacklabel [1d\]: shhh
agiito [11k\]: anyone here draws manga?
Xylol [10k\]: why not kaiowhin?
someonefc [13k\]: baldmonkey has low self esteem calling himself a noob
blacklabel [1d\]: first rule dan club: dont talk about dan club ^^
]
;B[pg]BL[1538.358]C[FlameBlade [-\]: blacklabel...
FlameBlade [-\]: silence.
DragonXiao [9k\]: i improved 3 stones since becoming part of the lee changho fan club
baldmonkey [1d\]: i call 1d- noobs too =/
kaioshin [6d?\]: W has a solid corner with many yose follow ups - while B has thickness that he'll have to use later, which is harder to do against a stronger player like W
]
;W[oe]WL[1661.634]C[baldmonkey [1d\]: its more trouble seeking =)
adoreme [-\]: white tends to overplay a lot in handicap games
Xylol [10k\]: @kaio thank you
xDragon [?\]: w has to overplay
FlameBlade [-\]: P15, interesting idea.
AhSayuni [3d\]: danigabi believes that when getting handicap you shouldn't play for territory
kaioshin [6d?\]: i see
AhSayuni [3d\]: but get influence and attack
kaioshin [6d?\]: that will help to predict his movement, thanks yuni
AhSayuni [3d\]: :)
Mikiso [1d\]: that sa common theory and natural i guess @ AhSayuni
FlameBlade [-\]: R13 feels the most patient.
DragonXiao [9k\]: is q 11 joseki? i can't find it on sensei's 
]
;B[qg]BL[1431.773]
;W[od]WL[1659.248]C[kaioshin [6d?\]: but you gotta expect that W wanted B to play R13
baldmonkey [1d\]: general rules doesnt work always in go
AhSayuni [3d\]: yeah.. didn't say it isn't.. but danigabi likes to emphasise this
jkgjg: joseki = in corner?
AhSayuni [3d\]: and many have the approach that they only need to play safe and win in handicap
baldmonkey [1d\]: position define the strategy 5d should know that =/
DragonXiao [9k\]: joseki don't have to be in corner
]
;B[pe]BL[1384.776]
;W[pf]WL[1656.798]
;B[of]BL[1382.888]
;W[nf]WL[1656.059]
;B[og]BL[1381.744]
;W[pc]WL[1655.364]
;B[rf]BL[1379.188]C[FlameBlade [-\]: do not like this cut.
]
;W[qc]WL[1652.508]
;B[rd]BL[1374.606]C[oskari [?\]: I think joseki is like a combination in chess
Ellimist [-\]: joseki = standardized sequence
]
;W[me]WL[1620.7]C[baldmonkey [1d\]: more like an opening 
Ellimist [-\]: in the corners
jkgjg: j17
RayTomes [1d\]: n12
DragonXiao [9k\]: nimzo-indian defence >.< i played it all the time
Ellimist [-\]: i stand corrected
baldmonkey [1d\]: in that way go can have 4 openings compared to chess 1 
oskari [?\]: I liked the dragon, made for fun games as black
Ellimist [-\]: joseki is a standardized sequence,
Altist [1k\]: w already took 1 stone
Altist [1k\]: back
Ellimist [-\]: but not restricted to corners
]
;B[ic]BL[1325.792]C[jkgjg: hehe
]
;W[gc]WL[1606.734]
;B[lc]BL[1322.751]
;W[mb]WL[1600.854]C[Altist [1k\]: b is overconcentrated on the right side
kaioshin [6d?\]: i wouldn't mind the outcome of the bottom right if it wasn't for the huge yose potential it has. and i think most of the times a stronger player plays a weaker one in handicap, it's yose where the stronger player ends up pulling out a win
]
;B[ie]BL[1316.515]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: always so many people play fried liver >.<
]
;W[ge]WL[1586.752]
;B[ig]BL[1312.385]
;W[mh]WL[1585.471]C[adoreme [-\]: if you have questions about studying baduk in korea, now is your chance. a lot of students from kbc are here now :)
RayTomes [1d\]: n12 such a gtreat point for both players
Ellimist [-\]: yep
Ellimist [-\]: :)
AhSayuni [3d\]: usually with Kim SeungRae it's in fighting...
]
;B[ng]BL[1282.295]
;W[mg]WL[1583.686]C[Ellimist [-\]: we're all in one room now
Ellimist [-\]: XD
]
;B[lf]BL[1280.928]
;W[mf]WL[1582.959]C[RayTomes [1d\]: c10
Stinky [3k\]: white is doing really well?
FlameBlade [-\]: what is the result of your study on baduk in Korea so far?
baldmonkey [1d\]: white is female?
Mikiso [1d\]: j17  should be at h17  i think
Ellimist [-\]: female?
kaioshin [6d?\]: i don't know the styles of either of these players, so your information is very useful yuni :D
Ellimist [-\]: decidedly not
baldmonkey [1d\]: =))
Ellimist [-\]: :P
baldmonkey [1d\]: ima monkey
FlameBlade [-\]: do you guys feel like you learned a lot?
adoreme [-\]: we get crushed regularly by kim-sabomnim >.>
DragonXiao [9k\]: do you like to play monkey jump?
Ellimist [-\]: yeah
FlameBlade [-\]: and what did you do while there?
Ellimist [-\]: study
FlameBlade [-\]: no life other than baduk?
Ellimist [-\]: 15 hour days
Makubesu [5k?\]: Are you guys with the IBA?
AhSayuni [3d\]: well.. he's our teacher, and danigabi was a fellow student here for 3 months
Ellimist [-\]: well, we play foot-volleyball often
Ellimist [-\]: :3
Ellimist [-\]: for recreation
adoreme [-\]: KBC = kingsbaduk educational center
Ellimist [-\]: a lot of fun
baldmonkey [1d\]: he improved something?
Ellimist [-\]: ^_^
adoreme [-\]: not IBA :)
Makubesu [5k?\]: Thanks
FlameBlade [-\]: are you guys going to be pro soon?
]
;B[ii]BL[1156.313]C[oskari [?\]: 15 hour days that doesnt leave any time for working out. how do you manage to focus all that time
jkgjg: lol
adoreme [-\]: on our way :)
Ellimist [-\]: IBA = KBC's rival school
Ellimist [-\]: ;D
baldmonkey [1d\]: he was strong when he went to korea
]
;W[cn]WL[1573.627]C[oskari [?\]: without physical training
AhSayuni [3d\]: not really rivals
AhSayuni [3d\]: we're like friends
adoreme [-\]: friends :)
]
;B[dk]BL[1137.472]C[Ellimist [-\]: tortoise and the hare style
Ellimist [-\]: study diligently, but don't rush it
Ellimist [-\]: or you'll burn yourself out
RayTomes [1d\]: 5d still a long way from pro. 2 stones +5 komi is way under correct handicap
adoreme [-\]: rival school is the one of Kim-sabomnim's friend
adoreme [-\]: the one we lost so badly to :P
]
;W[fq]WL[1530.272]C[Ellimist [-\]: lol
]
;B[dn]BL[1127.938]C[Xylol [10k\]: how about whites shape in the upper right
]
;W[cq]WL[1526.028]C[Ellimist [-\]: yeah, but admit it, its fun to compete against IBA in friendly games
Ellimist [-\]: :)
adoreme [-\]: we beat them all the time ^^
Ellimist [-\]: ^_^
RhumBoy [6k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?KimSungRae
Ellimist [-\]: thats why its so fun
jkgjg: aahhhh, i missed a sensei link
baldmonkey [1d\]: its fun until somebody lose an eye
satakieli [2d?\]: d3/c4?
blacklabel [1d\]: dislike d3
FlameBlade [-\]: language spoken at KBC?
Ellimist [-\]: primarily english
adoreme [-\]: however korean will help greatly
Kantid [5k\]: binary choise
Ellimist [-\]: each student brings their own native language to the table, but we all speak and understand english
]
;B[dq]BL[968.032]C[Kantid [5k\]: what to think?
Stinky [3k\]: its ENGRISH!
Ellimist [-\]: some of the teachers here only speak korean
]
;W[cp]WL[1515.587]
;B[co]BL[966.112]
;W[bo]WL[1514.161]
;B[do]BL[965.357]C[Ellimist [-\]: haha
Stinky [3k\]: :)
]
;W[bm]WL[1500.588]C[Ellimist [-\]: stinky is more accurate than he realises maybe?
Ellimist [-\]: XD
]
;B[cm]BL[962.37]
;W[bn]WL[1499.131]C[Stinky [3k\]: yup
atcd [3d\]: who is leading?
Ellimist [-\]: white
Ellimist [-\]: i think
Longshi [-\]: this is really kim sung rae playing ?
Mikiso [1d\]: what ?
jkgjg: k3
Longshi [-\]: unexpected ^^
Stinky [3k\]: white looks like he got rid of the handis aready
DragonXiao [9k\]: wow, handicap all cone
DragonXiao [9k\]: gone*
adoreme [-\]: yes it is hime playing
adoreme [-\]: him*
satakieli [2d?\]: j3 /h3 ?
]
;B[jq]BL[911.658]C[Ellimist [-\]: Black's influence area is going to be a battleground shortly
RayTomes [1d\]: B has potential to mak big lower territory, but not easy against pro
Ellimist [-\]: eh
Mikiso [1d\]: complete speculation till here
Stinky [3k\]: white will prolly escape and gg white
Ellimist [-\]: haha
Makubesu [5k?\]: k3 nice, makes white's extension awkward
Ellimist [-\]: ah yes, Him
Ellimist [-\]: :D
]
;W[ip]WL[1483.012]C[FlameBlade [-\]: I think K3 is too far away
Longshi [-\]: I've submitted an application to study at the KBC starting in september, funny to see kim sung rae here ^^
DragonXiao [9k\]: not so okward, it seems
DragonXiao [9k\]: awkward*
FlameBlade [-\]: black cannot be light on white here
Ellimist [-\]: how strong are you longshi?
Stinky [3k\]: k3 seems standard here?
]
;B[iq]BL[880.34]C[Longshi [-\]: european 4d
Stinky [3k\]: black must outread white
]
;W[hp]WL[1472.516]C[FlameBlade [-\]: K3 doesn't  really contain F3 well.
blacklabel [1d\]: looks like wrong pincer
Stinky [3k\]: and play lighter shapes yea
jkgjg: h3
Stinky [3k\]: i dont think thats he point
Ellimist [-\]: and yes i do realize the paradox of asking a person with a hidden rank what their rank is
]
;B[jp]BL[869.867]
;W[in]WL[1468.733]C[Ellimist [-\]: :P
]
;B[jo]BL[864.895]C[Stinky [3k\]: i think hes trying to get some fightins and get some territor on right
adoreme [-\]: i wonder why he didnt get invited ^^
Xylol [10k\]: i think "hidden" is a wrong word
]
;W[fm]WL[1440.715]C[SkorpionZW [12k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?KimSungRae
Stinky [3k\]: h7
Ellimist [-\]: and what word would you reccommend?
]
;B[fo]BL[837.927]C[Ellimist [-\]: i think hidden is fine
Xylol [10k\]: not displayed
Stinky [3k\]: how bout
Stinky [3k\]: x
]
;W[gn]WL[1428.661]C[Xylol [10k\]: cause hidden sounds like sth to hide
Stinky [3k\]: [x\]
Ellimist [-\]: not neccessarily
oskari [?\]: he chose not to reveal it thus it's hidden. 
SkorpionZW [12k\]: G4?
Stinky [3k\]: its a variable!
Xylol [10k\]: maybe rank just inaccurate or ppl dont have one at all
]
;B[hq]BL[798.588]C[Ellimist [-\]: how about 'unranked'
]
;W[gp]WL[1425.214]C[Stinky [3k\]: y wont anyone listen to my logic T_T
Ellimist [-\]: maybe better?
Stinky [3k\]: no it must be [x\]
FlameBlade [-\]: hrm
agiito [11k\]: maybe hes hasnt got a profesional kgs account.
Xylol [10k\]: ist fine dont get me wrong ;D
FlameBlade [-\]: black doesn't really have points.
]
;B[dr]BL[774.213]C[FlameBlade [-\]: other than right side
xDragon [?\]: he just made his account today
agiito [11k\]: you know you cant earn above 9 dan on kgs without doing something special
xDragon [?\]: so he prob not recognized as p yet
RayTomes [1d\]: should play f6 before this?
Mikiso [1d\]: does w have??
Ellimist [-\]: he just created the account less than an hour ago
Ellimist [-\]: >_>
FlameBlade [-\]: white is still gaining up.
adoreme [-\]: next time he'll play he will have p rank
blacklabel [1d\]: should connect before this?
Stinky [3k\]: black can connect find
Stinky [3k\]: fine
Xylol [10k\]: is the d7 cut dangerous?
oskari [?\]: only reason to have a rank on an internet site is if you need to pair up correctly. bragging rights are pointless, especially for a pro
oskari [?\]: so myeh
]
;W[cr]WL[1348.27]C[jkgjg: l7
Stinky [3k\]: d7 not so dangerous
Stinky [3k\]: d7 e7?
RayTomes [1d\]: d7 not dangerous if B play g3 f4 f2 
jkgjg: d7 helps b
Xylol [10k\]: ah i see
baldmonkey [1d\]: i dont like p ranks in online go servers they should get a rank like amateurs :/
RayTomes [1d\]: so B has 2 ways out now
baldmonkey [1d\]: like in tygem
blacklabel [1d\]: still should protect imho
Xylol [10k\]: nothing is like tygem
DragonXiao [9k\]: tygem 9d's are stronger than pros o.O
RayTomes [1d\]: yes, one ranking system with decimal places for all is best
Xylol [10k\]: the virtual go heaven
Stinky [3k\]: then i would be 3.999k
RayTomes [1d\]: true playing strength
]
;B[il]BL[690.334]C[SkorpionZW [12k\]: How can you handle Tygem?
SkorpionZW [12k\]: Isn't it korean?
SkorpionZW [12k\]: in korean
SkorpionZW [12k\]: ?
RayTomes [1d\]: there are some pros that could play as 13 d on KGS
Xylol [10k\]: intuition
Xylol [10k\]: xD
]
;W[fk]WL[1334.863]C[Makubesu [5k?\]: 3.14k :)
]
;B[ei]BL[678.483]C[Ellimist [-\]: hehe
Stinky [3k\]: black can be cut now
DragonXiao [9k\]: like tartrate o.O
Grek [10k\]: ek
]
;W[dl]WL[1320.417]C[Argentum [7k?\]: ignore your ignorance, just go there and do your best
Stinky [3k\]: thats alot of cheese now
Stinky [3k\]: :)
SkorpionZW [12k\]: looks like agood move
KingsBaduk [-\]: ho
KingsBaduk [-\]: w connected?
Stinky [3k\]: black cut
Stinky [3k\]: cutted
SkorpionZW [12k\]: connect or kill
RayTomes [1d\]: no, but B cut
SkorpionZW [12k\]: ?
Stinky [3k\]: black is cut
DragonXiao [9k\]: Kings Baduk another one of the students?
KingsBaduk [-\]: well
Stinky [3k\]: there you go
KingsBaduk [-\]: if b has to go to f2
blacklabel [1d\]: b can cut but gote cuz must connect
kasen5 [2k\]: mwahaha kill b
KingsBaduk [-\]: w can connect
Saiya [2k\]: f2 or g3 doesn't work ?
RayTomes [1d\]: B could have peeped at f8 to prevent this
Stinky [3k\]: g3 works
SkorpionZW [12k\]: wait...if b plays D7 white cannot connect..
SkorpionZW [12k\]: or can he?
KingsBaduk [-\]: hehe
Stinky [3k\]: but not needed right now
KingsBaduk [-\]: yeah
DragonXiao [9k\]: g3 then f2 works i think
RayTomes [1d\]: yes, g3 and f2 work
KingsBaduk [-\]: but he's afraid of making a bad peep
KingsBaduk [-\]: and he missed this apparently
]
;B[fr]BL[566.575]C[Stinky [3k\]: who missed what?
Saiya [2k\]: no he can link
Argentum [7k?\]: listen to the teacher
Makubesu [5k?\]: d7 doesn't work?
KingsBaduk [-\]: b missed d8
]
;W[ek]WL[1299.784]C[Saiya [2k\]: c8 for exmple now
Saiya [2k\]: but no fun maybe ^^
KingsBaduk [-\]: c8 c9
myn [1k\]: no, i think he missed e9
]
;B[ec]BL[516.468]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: wow
Saiya [2k\]: B does not fear
Argentum [7k?\]: relax
DragonXiao [9k\]: how did B get so far behind?
KingsBaduk [-\]: w already won psychologically
]
;W[de]WL[1269.723]C[Xylol [10k\]: if white g2?
oskari [?\]: he doest ave much of a choice, he needs to catch up
RayTomes [1d\]: B is not behind
satakieli [2d?\]: w has good shapes in thight spots
blacklabel [1d\]: top right b bad choice
Argentum [7k?\]: B is much weaker thats why
DragonXiao [9k\]: yes, but i would not expect all of the handicap to be gone this early
Saiya [2k\]: G18 still
Stinky [3k\]: i expected them to be
Xylol [10k\]: why white cannot cut black at g2
blacklabel [1d\]: g18 doesnt connect to e17
]
;B[gb]BL[451.518]
;W[hb]WL[1262.952]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: i expected rather close game until yose, where i expected white to dominate
]
;B[hc]BL[447.234]
;W[fb]WL[1259.165]
;B[gd]BL[446.078]
;W[fc]WL[1258.358]
;B[fd]BL[445.301]
;W[ed]WL[1257.695]
;B[eb]BL[443.578]
;W[ga]WL[1256.202]C[RayTomes [1d\]: g2 g3 e2 f4 f1 d1 w die
]
;B[fe]BL[441.931]
;W[ib]WL[1253.579]C[Argentum [7k?\]: what do you mean until yose?
Xylol [10k\]: thank you
]
;B[jb]BL[419.476]
;W[hd]WL[1245.59]C[baldmonkey [1d\]: yose endgame
Argentum [7k?\]: yose started around move 90
satakieli [2d?\]: ?
]
;B[id]BL[388.282]
;W[kb]WL[1243.284]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: i meant beforethe game started >.<
Argentum [7k?\]: :-)
]
;B[jc]BL[371.783]
;W[dc]WL[1228.493]
;B[ee]BL[368.353]
;W[dd]WL[1226.814]C[Mikiso [1d\]: disappointing for b
RayTomes [1d\]: d14
Saiya [2k\]: E13
]
;B[eg]BL[343.437]
;W[df]WL[1215.982]
;B[dg]BL[338.87]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: push and cut in sente?
Xylol [10k\]: well do you recognize it
RayTomes [1d\]: no cut
Xylol [10k\]: he is playing against a pro with like 3 stones
Xylol [10k\]: thats amaizing
Saiya [2k\]: B O12 is big
DragonXiao [9k\]: 2.5 stones?
RayTomes [1d\]: 2.3 stones
oskari [?\]: two stones and reverse komi
RayTomes [1d\]: but 2 stones is really only 1.5, so really 1.8 stone advantage
]
;W[ef]WL[1122.862]
;B[ff]BL[334.189]
;W[fg]WL[1121.137]
;B[he]BL[332.257]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: yaya
DragonXiao [9k\]: yay, he play what i wanted 
]
;W[ni]WL[1102.476]
;B[mj]BL[325.563]
;W[nj]WL[1097.573]
;B[nk]BL[320.635]
;W[ok]WL[1095.535]C[RayTomes [1d\]: n11
blacklabel [1d\]: b o10 was big indeed
]
;B[mi]BL[265.894]C[RayTomes [1d\]: good move
]
;W[nh]WL[1078.056]C[RayTomes [1d\]: allows double hane now
Saiya [2k\]: p10 next B
]
;B[nl]BL[253.366]C[RayTomes [1d\]: maybe not
Blubbel [12k\]: what is hane?
RayTomes [1d\]: turn around stone - o9 and p9 were hane
Xylol [10k\]: sensei lib -> hane
Suola [7k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Hane
Blubbel [12k\]: thanks
Xylol [10k\]: next time you know the source for a lot of awnsers ;D
Xylol [10k\]: first asking is for free
]
;W[ol]WL[999.061]C[RayTomes [1d\]: sensei's has all sorts of stuff
]
;B[om]BL[247.878]
;W[mk]WL[995.238]
;B[lk]BL[238.586]C[baldmonkey [1d\]: useles stuff yeah
Xylol [10k\]: n9?
]
;W[ml]WL[987.207]
;B[nm]BL[236.597]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: sensei's and joining lee changho's fan club has helped me improve 10 stones o.O
]
;W[ll]WL[976.539]C[RayTomes [1d\]: w connect to J6?
FlameBlade [-\]: 10 stones at your level...isn't much...
Ellimist [-\]: lol
DragonXiao [9k\]: i know >.<
FlameBlade [-\]: now if it improved you to 1d from 10k...that's impressive
Jeromin [9k\]: I had a coffee this morning, helped me improve 4 stones
Makubesu [5k?\]: with cream and sugar?
telchar [1d\]: 1d isn't much
DragonXiao [9k\]: but i am happy, only a couple months. I feel great improvement
Jeromin [9k\]: that would be doping
baldmonkey [1d\]: you get 9k only from watching hikaru no go endings
RayTomes [1d\]: l8 m10 m11 ??
oskari [?\]: coffee isnt allowed in chess, is it in go?
]
;B[kk]BL[165.102]C[Xylol [10k\]: what?
Xylol [10k\]: ^^
Jeromin [9k\]: nicotine is
Ellimist [-\]: not in international tournaments i think
Xylol [10k\]: ???
Xylol [10k\]: joking?
oskari [?\]: what, it's a stimulant
lobosaito [5k\]: e2 is bad move?
Jeromin [9k\]: joking is not allowed, I think
RayTomes [1d\]: 1d seq ... k7 l7 k8 l8 k9 
blacklabel [1d\]: it isnt
baldmonkey [1d\]: who cares chess..
Ellimist [-\]: nevermind
baldmonkey [1d\]: just the computers 
Ellimist [-\]: i dont know
Ellimist [-\]: :3
RayTomes [1d\]: k6?
]
;W[gf]WL[896.043]
;B[hd]BL[162.378]C[telchar [1d\]: hmmm
]
;W[kl]WL[875.601]C[Jeromin [9k\]: is b really that far behind? I can never tell thiese things
Saiya [2k\]: watch clock
RayTomes [1d\]: the great ripling aji tesuji is coming
]
;B[jl]BL[150.518]C[anapazapa [2d\]: bad
blacklabel [1d\]: must eat no choice
Saiya [2k\]: M10
RayTomes [1d\]: k9 l10 k10 
blacklabel [1d\]: m10 doesnt work
RayTomes [1d\]: K9 is the spot
oskari [?\]: are we cutting again
RayTomes [1d\]: yes
henhen [7k\]: b wins it xD
DragonXiao [9k\]: NO don't do it!!!
oskari [?\]: ;)
baldmonkey [1d\]: i dont see k9 working 
DragonXiao [9k\]: maybe he is discussing the next move with his students?
RayTomes [1d\]: k9 l10 k10 l11 k11 l12 k12 l13 all forced
Xylol [10k\]: can you sense the tensure in the air
Ellimist [-\]: nope
Ellimist [-\]: he's in his office
Ellimist [-\]: we're in the dungeon
RayTomes [1d\]: or w gets more libs
Longshi [-\]: the dungeon ?
blacklabel [1d\]: w m11
Ellimist [-\]: aka: the computer room
FlameBlade [-\]: what happens when you make a really gross mistake during a game?
PCT [5k?\]: more like the catacumbs
FlameBlade [-\]: in KBC, that is
adoreme [-\]: if you are not 5d+ your are sealed in the dungeon
Ellimist [-\]: lol
RayTomes [1d\]: flameblade - you likely lose
FlameBlade [-\]: I'm referring to Kings Baduk school
FlameBlade [-\]: so what they do to you every time you make a mistake?
Ellimist [-\]: he scolds us a bit
FlameBlade [-\]: just a bit?
Ellimist [-\]: if its really bad
Ellimist [-\]: and looks/ acts like we are a dissapointment
adoreme [-\]: or push-ups or running laps around the soccer field ^^
Ellimist [-\]: haha
Ellimist [-\]: yeah
PCT [5k?\]: if you lose a game bc of it you get 10 whiplashes
RayTomes [1d\]: B in heap big trouble
Ellimist [-\]: i had to do 11 laps for bad test scores
FlameBlade [-\]: what if the mistake is 30k variety?
adoreme [-\]: solve a tsumego wrong = 10 pushups
oskari [?\]: do you have access to a proper weight lifting room, and some running space?! 
Fizix [10k\]: then you escape
Ellimist [-\]: we are in the mountains
Ellimist [-\]: there is no shortage of space
Ellimist [-\]: :P
FlameBlade [-\]: oh man, now I want to go
Makubesu [5k?\]: how's the weather?
oskari [?\]: awesome, hill training is the best
Ellimist [-\]: hard to find a place without space actually
Saiya [2k\]: w is tstrong, thats a given, but B very strong too
FlameBlade [-\]: just have to figure out how I can get away for a month.
guxxan [6d\]: there is only a grocery store?
Ellimist [-\]: and we do ahave excercise equipment
adoreme [-\]: just go?
FlameBlade [-\]: any haidong gumdo?
Longshi [-\]: take a year long break
oskari [?\]: things forolympic weight lifting?
Ellimist [-\]: well, i won 120kg of fertilizer for lifting
Ellimist [-\]: :P
]
;W[li]WL[485.957]C[Longshi [-\]: are there stuffs like taekwondo courses ?
Ellimist [-\]: in a local competition
]
;B[lj]BL[145.861]
;W[jk]WL[484.89]
;B[kj]BL[142.776]
;W[ik]WL[475.463]C[Ellimist [-\]: nope
oskari [?\]: hah, awesome. carrying120 kg dung back home makes for a good work out as well
RayTomes [1d\]: k10 better
amashi: w K11
anapazapa [2d\]: 10gen
Ellimist [-\]: haha
adoreme [-\]: if you do really bad in your games you will have to climb up chiak-mountain... the ol' deathtrap...
baldmonkey [1d\]: so white invade?
RayTomes [1d\]: W could push all the way to k12 in sente
Xylol [10k\]: raytomes is a troll xD
atcd [3d\]: L7
FlameBlade [-\]: I think I see white's plan
FlameBlade [-\]: haha
RayTomes [1d\]: what I say is true
Saiya [2k\]: i want to see how w uses this to atak top group
amashi: w k11, l11, l12, m12, m13 kills
RayTomes [1d\]: k10 k7 h9 l6 
Xylol [10k\]: i dont think that any of your moves is better than the KimSung ones
kynes22 [2d\]: h9
kynes22 [2d\]: h9 then?
pototo120 [8k\]: L7 
RayTomes [1d\]: h9 loses
FlameBlade [-\]: except on a very few occasions, Xylol
Xylol [10k\]: "k10 better" how dare you... after he wwas thinking like 7 minutes
gochai: just l7
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;B[km]BL[14.201]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: l7 only move?
Saiya [2k\]: L7 kinda only move
FlameBlade [-\]: there's cases where pros self-atari
kynes22 [2d\]: what's wrong with h9?
RayTomes [1d\]: h9 k10 l11 k11 l12 k12 l13 k7 and w saves stones
FlameBlade [-\]: L7 seems only move.
amashi: OMG he's crazy
amashi: oh wait
amashi: he's not crazy
xDragon [?\]: L7 might be the only move there
gochai: h9 then k7 connect
Saiya [2k\]: h9 is what w want u to play
amashi: actually he's really smart
RayTomes [1d\]: k10
DragonXiao [9k\]: now white has a nice sente sequence
amashi: smarter than me
ProGoVerb [5k\]: Danigabi is a good player
RayTomes [1d\]: k10 k100 etc
amashi: lol k100
RayTomes [1d\]: k10 k11 etc*
amashi: :D
amashi: 100x100 board
Makubesu [5k?\]: G12 now?
oblivion [4d\]: maybe w not so strong
RayTomes [1d\]: there is a mad guy that plays 37x37 games
RayTomes [1d\]: buit he doesn't resign, so it takes forever
Saiya [2k\]: k10 k11 is too easy, w want use G14 stones
FlameBlade [-\]: it's too hard to count 37x37 games :)
anapazapa [2d\]: it takes forever every time
Kantid [5k\]: he must be 10d
Ellimist [-\]: hm..
DragonXiao [9k\]: 37x37 almost 4 times as large as 19x 19
Ellimist [-\]: coler to 10k
Ellimist [-\]: closer*
henhen [6k\]: i know dat one.
oblivion [4d\]: 37x37 boring
DragonXiao [9k\]: 1st 30 ish moves are better spent tenuki
baldmonkey [1d\]: 37x37 fun
blacklabel [1d\]: k10 :/
amashi: t1
DragonXiao [9k\]: + 4th line is better for territory, 5th line for influence
baldmonkey [1d\]: 6th line for glory
blacklabel [1d\]: 7thline of god
Ellimist [-\]: 8th line for a headache
baldmonkey [1d\]: 7th line for gondor
baldmonkey [1d\]: 8th for sparta
oblivion [4d\]: 8th for sex!
triii [11k\]: 10th line for god
amashi: 9th line for superman
oskari [?\]: I always liked playing the middle. it seems awesome in 37x37
DragonXiao [9k\]: the 6th line is the line of the amateur, and the 7th line is the line of the professional, apparently
gochai: k10 to save f13
Kantid [5k\]: if someday computer finally wins against 9p - we will just add 1 more line to the board and will play calm for another 50 years
Hagalaz [3k\]: endgame is so boring for 37 by 37
sembei [14k\]: 1st line for me
RayTomes [1d\]: 11th line for sinking feeling
Hagalaz [3k\]: takews hours
DragonXiao [9k\]: oskari, i think plays in the center are not worth much, especially on such a large board
anapazapa [2d\]: who dared invoke gondor?
Makubesu [5k?\]: I want to see Captain play 37x37
Gryning [5k\]: lol @ kantid
oblivion [4d\]: this game is slow=boring!!
oskari [?\]: bah, you talk treason dragon!
Ellimist [-\]: hm..
Ellimist [-\]: then dont watch it
Ellimist [-\]: :P
pototo120 [8k\]: g2
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;W[fh]WL[179.376]C[adoreme [-\]: KBC website: http://www.koreanbadukcongress.com/
Ellimist [-\]: we dont wanna hear you complain about it
Ellimist [-\]: ;P
]
;B[fi]BL[5.147]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: white prepping for attack of the ages?
oblivion [4d\]: didnt mean to make u cry
oblivion [4d\]: sorry
amashi: oblivion is a good game
amashi: /offtopic
rgteh: but tonigh i'm cleaning up my cl
triii [11k\]: ...
]
;W[gi]WL[133.64]C[RayTomes [1d\]: g10
SirKuros [11k\]: oblivion rules, has the best game music ever as well
]
;B[gj]BL[30]OB[3]C[SirKuros [11k\]: jeremy soule rules
rgteh: that's a game?
Suola [7k\]: i think morrowind was way better.
amashi: nah poor graphics
amashi: oblivion better
RayTomes [1d\]: w planning an outside forcing movce at crucial point
Suola [7k\]: it was excellent on the year it came out
RayTomes [1d\]: move*
]
;W[hj]WL[81.469]C[Xylol [10k\]: morrowind is after go the best game
amashi: go rocks ;)
Suola [7k\]: oblivion = nothing special
rgteh: u saw how morrowind can be finished in 5 min?
SirKuros [11k\]: noo starcraft is the best game :)
acellist1 [4k\]: graphics in morrowwind awed me when it came out
RayTomes [1d\]: g12 good enough
amashi: i heard go version 2 has better graphics
blacklabel [1d\]: good job w
]
;B[hi]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gh]WL[76.723]C[oblivion [4d\]: wow
triii [11k\]: ?
DragonXiao [9k\]: g12 better?
FlameBlade [-\]: I don't think I have guts to do what white is doing.
]
;B[fj]BL[30]OB[2]C[Ellimist [-\]: lol
FlameBlade [-\]: admire admire admire
atcd [3d\]: w is very strong
FlameBlade [-\]: oh wow
baldmonkey [1d\]: its not guts what you need
FlameBlade [-\]: I see how this works
rgteh: g9
amashi: he's killing a big thingy isn't he?
atcd [3d\]: L11
FlameBlade [-\]: I don't believe this
RayTomes [1d\]: k10 l11 k11 l12 k12 m7 j12 
DragonXiao [9k\]: read this all out?
amashi: k10 w or b?
FlameBlade [-\]: this is psycho.
Ellimist [-\]: lol
RayTomes [1d\]: it is w move
baldmonkey [1d\]: yeah it took him long time
amashi: k
atcd [3d\]: K11
blacklabel [1d\]: dont forget h8 sente after k10 pushes
FlameBlade [-\]: black can begin to cry.
oskari [?\]: when I tried doing this, and yes I tried, I messed up in ten places and ended up losing with 260 points !
baldmonkey [1d\]: he was reading all¡
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;W[ki]WL[30]OW[3]C[SirKuros [11k\]: stfu oskari
oskari [?\]: :D
SirKuros [11k\]: xD
anapazapa [2d\]: oh no
RayTomes [1d\]: k10 k11 j10 j12 h9 
Makubesu [5k?\]: ah
]
;B[jj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ih]WL[30]OW[3]C[DragonXiao [9k\]: black resign, i don't know how this works, but he should resign
RayTomes [1d\]: cannot h12
]
;B[hk]BL[30]OB[2]C[rgteh: j17 might die?
DragonXiao [9k\]: when a pro spends 6 minutes on a move, you know you are going to lose
blacklabel [1d\]: j17 dies
rgteh: but then c8
RayTomes [1d\]: he should have g12 when I told him
RobertT [5k\]: b+ time
Jeromin [9k\]: I'd love to see the branching out of those six minutes worth of variations in real time
oblivion [4d\]: aur contraire dragxiao
]
;W[hh]WL[30]OW[3]C[Makubesu [5k?\]: it's like he couldn't even hear you
amashi: can't wait for the review of this game
DragonXiao [9k\]: black is nice, added time
gochai: k12
]
;B[jh]BL[30]OB[2]C[RayTomes [1d\]: yes
Suola [7k\]: he shoud not have
RayTomes [1d\]: not finished yet
oblivion [4d\]: the faster he plays the fastter u die!!
Stinky [3k\]: muahaha
Stinky [3k\]: nice
danigabi [5d\]: thanks
Stinky [3k\]: nice
amashi: OMG
KimSungRae [-\]: good
Hagalaz [3k\]: wow
ProGoVerb [5k\]: wow impressive
Ellimist [-\]: aw~
amashi: revie?
ProGoVerb [5k\]: hands up
KingsBaduk [-\]: oh
danigabi [5d\]: i was lucky
amashi: review?
RobertT [5k\]: RayTomes [1d\]: not finished yet <---- very nice comment
Ellimist [-\]: Sabomnim, review?
danigabi [5d\]: everyone please silence :)
Stinky [3k\]: LOl
danigabi [5d\]: let him speak
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