(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1200]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
PW[korea5dan]PB[artem92]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-05-18]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[artem92 [7d\]: hi
Hanne [4k\]: oi
korea5dan [7d\]: hi
Yaruki [10k\]: goo artem
dalamyst [1k\]: goo arrtem
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1176.073]
;W[dq]WL[1196.153]C[Hanne [4k\]: go korea
ganesha4 [1k\]: go both..
isbhal [-\]: go me
]
;B[dd]BL[1153.474]C[dalamyst [1k\]: go where
ganesha4 [1k\]: go god
Hanne [4k\]: focus on the game plz
ganesha4 [1k\]: go focus on the game
Yaruki [10k\]: game?
]
;W[qp]WL[1153.315]
;B[do]BL[1139.836]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: go focus go on go the game
dalamyst [1k\]: *go game
]
;W[dl]WL[1075.314]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: why strong players  never play k16 as B #3
]
;B[gp]BL[1110.166]C[Hanne [4k\]: both play too fast
entropper [1k\]: cause san ren sei is for noobs :)
ganesha4 [1k\]: :)
Aphelion02 [11k\]: whats so bad about sanrensai
ganesha4 [1k\]: but actually san ren sei isvery solid
saimic [3k\]: its for noobs. the 1k said
]
;W[fo]WL[987.626]C[GocchiSama [1k\]: trick play
]
;B[ep]BL[1097.389]C[Jebus [1d\]: lies
]
;W[fp]WL[982.445]
;B[eq]BL[1092.802]
;W[fq]WL[980.944]
;B[fr]BL[1086.503]C[ftghz: sanrensei is a trick play?
SanSanych [4k\]: is it joseki ?
ftghz: yes
]
;W[dr]WL[952.389]C[donatello [1d\]: old joseki
]
;B[er]BL[1080.181]
;W[gq]WL[950.976]
;B[cq]BL[1073.501]C[Yaruki [10k\]: a ninja turtle in the house
Aphelion02 [11k\]: which move is trick play
]
;W[dn]WL[937.334]C[saimic [3k\]: tell me. when a go player lacks of imaginations . you consider him a noob? .. when a go player plays solid. he plays like a noob? when a player plays san ren sei and not support your 1k filosophy. hes a noob?
Yaruki [10k\]: /cencored
]
;B[cn]BL[1048.777]
;W[co]WL[935.035]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: saimik I think entropper just joked
]
;B[cp]BL[1034.822]
;W[eo]WL[924.976]C[Yaruki [10k\]: lol
saimic [3k\]: nice joke.
saimic [3k\]: hilarious.
gc [2d\]: which way
]
;B[dp]BL[1000.379]
;W[cm]WL[922.21]
;B[bo]BL[995.231]C[gc [2d\]: i like b
]
;W[qf]WL[893.767]C[saimic [3k\]: who doesnt?
ikuy [1d\]: corner very big
Sire [3k\]: r14
]
;B[en]BL[978.967]C[SanSanych [4k\]: w vas sente wall
ganesha4 [1k\]: what move is proper now in bottom right?
]
;W[dm]WL[890.776]C[luda [14k\]: nice rip off by Artem in the lower corner
]
;B[nc]BL[966.763]
;W[pi]WL[877.315]C[twold [2k\]: corner just 15-20 points. i don't like it. but should be joseki
]
;B[nq]BL[957.765]C[iu87: white looks good here
gc [2d\]: lol 18 point  corner is huge
gc [2d\]: considered
ganesha4 [1k\]: I believe that if its 20 points then its very good res
twold [2k\]: in gote, being almost sealed in?
gc [2d\]: in gote yes, but it was w's corner to begin with
]
;W[op]WL[800.243]C[twold [2k\]: well, i guess it's a fair result
]
;B[pr]BL[950.938]C[gc [2d\]: and w's wall has some weakness
iu87: a lot of weakness
shibo [4d\]: a lot? where?
GoShinobi [-\]: just a bit aji ,
donatello [1d\]: it was joseki until d2,it should ve been g2 for joseki but white wanted to keep sente i  think
GoShinobi [-\]: but quite strong shape
]
;W[lp]WL[725.28]C[shibo [4d\]: d2 is a new joseki i thought.. but not sure
]
;B[np]BL[942.73]C[GoShinobi [-\]: yes a korean invention 
gc [2d\]: "invention"
donatello [1d\]: ooh i didnt know sorry
]
;W[oq]WL[691.545]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: I always wonder what is diff between o3 and o4 after W get Q11 or Q10
]
;B[or]BL[933.952]
;W[qq]WL[679.741]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: and after such exchange at bottom left
]
;B[nn]BL[921.603]
;W[mr]WL[676.902]
;B[nr]BL[914.875]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: now seems that o3 was not so good
]
;W[pm]WL[667.05]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: B is a bit heavy no?
iu87: a little plump
gc [2d\]: i think this is one of the josekis
donatello [1d\]: but white has a lot of weakness 
]
;B[lo]BL[864.823]
;W[ko]WL[653.425]
;B[ln]BL[858.136]C[luda [14k\]: white's situation in the right side is now very annoying for black
ganesha4 [1k\]: yes, but all W groups are safe
SanSanych [4k\]: it's 1 of the game conditions: dont play an joseki
]
;W[kp]WL[622.904]
;B[kn]BL[847.754]
;W[jn]WL[620.639]
;B[jm]BL[841.22]
;W[im]WL[617.853]
;B[jl]BL[835.342]
;W[il]WL[614.108]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: could 4d+ comment o3 in compare with o4?
]
;B[jk]BL[815.883]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: * comparing
]
;W[ik]WL[610.127]C[XChingX [2k\]: m3 
]
;B[jj]BL[811.687]
;W[cf]WL[608.036]C[Memor3x [4k\]: q9?
LSF [6k\]: w right is big, and with a weak group in center b wont be able to invade
]
;B[fd]BL[800.899]
;W[bd]WL[604.872]C[twold [2k\]: no, b solid, w lot of aji
]
;B[ij]BL[793.459]C[MilanMilan [9d\]: J10
]
;W[gk]WL[601.152]C[MilanMilan [9d\]: G10
]
;B[gj]BL[784.7]
;W[fj]WL[598.545]
;B[hk]BL[778.553]C[hyuend [7k\]: waaaahh
gc [2d\]: wow
hyuend [7k\]: milan know
lilosergey [4k\]: you knew it >.<
gc [2d\]: magician
]
;W[hl]WL[582.436]C[gc [2d\]: i bet he won't make any more predictions
]
;B[hj]BL[773.56]
;W[gl]WL[581.366]C[MilanMilan [9d\]: w in trouble now
]
;B[fi]BL[767.509]
;W[ej]WL[580.328]C[Hanne [4k\]: this might not be too great for white
gc [2d\]: 'cause that might ruin his reputation
Tsedaka [2d\]: p14
SanSanych [4k\]: is c14 too early ?
MilanMilan [9d\]: shoulder
gc [2d\]: d13?
Hanne [4k\]: look at that wall
ganesha4 [1k\]: milan
]
;B[ei]BL[740.107]C[LSF [6k\]: i love b `s wall
Yaruki [10k\]: its pretty
ganesha4 [1k\]: could you please make one comment
ganesha4 [1k\]: about theory
]
;W[di]WL[563.179]C[takami [-\]: not guessing a weaker players wrong move loses your reputation ?
gc [2d\]: as a magician
ganesha4 [1k\]: o3 and o4 what was better in this situation
]
;B[dh]BL[718.966]
;W[ch]WL[561.921]
;B[ci]BL[707.715]
;W[dj]WL[559.628]C[JeanVidToi [10k?\]: c13 :)
]
;B[cg]BL[698.275]
;W[bh]WL[557.965]C[pleeze: LET S ATTACK Q 12 !!!!
]
;B[dg]BL[693.442]C[gc [2d\]: wall!!
]
;W[bg]WL[556.815]C[MilanMilan [9d\]: E11 is not that good
]
;B[df]BL[688.735]
;W[mc]WL[545.468]C[hyuend [7k\]: destroy the waalllll
gc [2d\]: o16?
gc [2d\]: n16?
gc [2d\]: one of the two?
Paradize [2k\]: pincer
LSF [6k\]: never seen a wall like this
]
;B[nd]BL[643.977]C[WaterAndGo [4k\]: L16
]
;W[jc]WL[542.026]C[LSF [6k\]: even in my 30k games :)
Aphelion02 [11k\]: maybe b16 was mistake?
]
;B[hc]BL[635.181]C[Mitsuomi [1k\]: a fearless korea vs an artem facing the right, I woner who wins :D
luda [14k\]: white territory looks safer
Mitsuomi [1k\]: wonwder°
donatello [1d\]: was d14 necessary ? couldnt he play araund p14?
]
;W[md]WL[520.048]C[Mitsuomi [1k\]: wonder°
JeanVidToi [10k?\]: o14 ?
LSF [6k\]: b to kill k17
gc [2d\]: hane
]
;B[me]BL[600.329]C[gc [2d\]: top or bottom
gc [2d\]: hane
]
;W[le]WL[513.351]C[gc [2d\]: hane?
High55 [6d\]: cut
PAG2 [-\]: bon hane, bon sente ?
ganesha4 [1k\]: or l15
gc [2d\]: oh ok cut
High55 [6d\]: l16
High55 [6d\]: cut or l16
LSF [6k\]: i like L16 most
ganesha4 [1k\]: l15 seems also proper
donatello [1d\]: dont think just cut :)
High55 [6d\]: when u r thick, u should bite as mad dog
Paradize [2k\]: N14
luda [14k\]: what about  h14 for black, that would save some space
]
;B[ld]BL[504.843]
;W[mf]WL[507.272]C[ganesha4 [1k\]: h14 is very bad
]
;B[ne]BL[499.869]C[luda [14k\]: why so ?
ikuy [1d\]: too slow
ftghz: black big attack?
gc [2d\]: it's small
LSF [6k\]: when you have wall you dant save space
ganesha4 [1k\]: because loosing temp
PtiNegi [-\]: not enough
LSF [6k\]: you invide the opponent near it
luda [14k\]: alright
gc [2d\]: how many points do you make by h14?
ganesha4 [1k\]: you should push opponent to wall
gc [2d\]: 12 points? w can't come near h14 anyway
gc [2d\]: it's like donation
ganesha4 [1k\]: would W move around h14 now?
ganesha4 [1k\]: of course not
ganesha4 [1k\]: so its bad move for B as well
luda [14k\]: how many points will Artem get out of his wall ?
Jebus [1d\]: 32
ganesha4 [1k\]: wall is not about points
ftghz: W now will destroy the black wall
Gattsu [8k\]: will try , that's for sure
Gattsu [8k\]: black has good shape there
sc1003bro [3k\]: ..
sc1003bro [3k\]: .
sc1003bro [3k\]: .
Gattsu [8k\]: white's right side big :)
gc [2d\]: l15
asfasf: whos ahead?
Paradize [2k\]: not so big
toobadforu [15k?\]: 11n
ganesha4 [1k\]: B
Paradize [2k\]: cause it s easy to destroy
ftghz: W ahead
Yaruki [10k\]: W
ganesha4 [1k\]: B is ahead for sure
MoGrizzle [23k\]: l15 m17 t
LSF [6k\]: w ahead in points but
]
;W[kd]WL[299.874]C[Gattsu [8k\]: b looks more solid, but w has right side :)
LSF [6k\]: poision looks better for b
]
;B[lc]BL[493.041]
;W[lf]WL[298.79]C[glimpse [3d\]: i prefer b 
ganesha4 [1k\]: how W can be ahead by points??
luda [14k\]: white's right side wil make the difference IMO
]
;B[og]BL[478.815]
;W[pg]WL[287.17]C[LSF [6k\]: right site not secure
]
;B[oh]BL[473.388]
;W[hd]WL[284.212]C[High55 [6d\]: w is inviting kill
gc [2d\]: hane
gc [2d\]: j16?
gc [2d\]: is that bad?
luda [14k\]: hence the use of h14
quappe22: g17 
ganesha4 [1k\]: High55 whi is ahead?
ganesha4 [1k\]: *who
]
;B[id]BL[435.75]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: q13 seems greedy of white
]
;W[ic]WL[267.014]
;B[he]BL[429.944]
;W[hb]WL[265.324]C[LSF [6k\]: L15 is still open for cut
]
;B[gd]BL[424.167]
;W[mb]WL[248.687]C[luda [14k\]: h13 was a fruitless attempt
]
;B[lb]BL[418.65]
;W[kb]WL[247.805]
;B[nb]BL[413.211]
;W[kc]WL[246.821]
;B[ma]BL[405.608]C[Gattsu [8k\]: k15 ?
LSF [6k\]: L15!!
Gattsu [8k\]: or g18 ?
]
;W[jf]WL[228.322]C[Gattsu [8k\]: good
]
;B[gb]BL[399.042]C[LSF [6k\]: w still one eye
glimpse [3d\]: b happy w this attack
Gattsu [8k\]: k15  second 
Paradize [2k\]: Q9 should be played
ganesha4 [1k\]: around m11 and Q9 is miai now?
donatello [1d\]: l12 
]
;W[lh]WL[187.272]C[LSF [6k\]: w k 15 b k16
]
;B[oi]BL[391.888]C[LSF [6k\]: no eye yet there
gc [2d\]: w will play q10
gc [2d\]: haha
gc [2d\]: and he will die
ganesha4 [1k\]: :)
glimpse [3d\]: probably
gc [2d\]: but can't help it
]
;W[ia]WL[159.588]C[gc [2d\]: <-- wrong
stuppid: k15
ganesha4 [1k\]: gc you are real demonic optimist
]
;B[kg]BL[376.8]C[Gattsu [8k\]: hehe
]
;W[jh]WL[156.428]
;B[kh]BL[370.142]
;W[ki]WL[155.509]C[Yaruki [10k\]: o8
]
;B[ji]BL[365.472]C[LSF [6k\]: wall in action
Gattsu [8k\]: m11 
Allende [6k\]: l14
SirKuros [13k\]: m11 k13
Gattsu [8k\]: hmm , cut powerful now
Gattsu [8k\]: maybe it needs defense first
Yaruki [10k\]: k15
Gattsu [8k\]: k15 l14 m11 
toobadforu [15k?\]: why not k13
luda [14k\]: k13 indeed
t0Strong4u [-\]: k13 m11 
]
;W[mi]WL[39.615]C[asfasf: n11?
]
;B[jg]BL[357.142]C[Gattsu [8k\]: l14 
Paradize [2k\]: life move
asfasf: p14
]
;W[nj]WL[30]OW[3]C[minizola [4k\]: m13
toobadforu [15k?\]: o9 for life or death !
gc [2d\]: cut
Gattsu [8k\]: most likely..
]
;B[oj]BL[339.137]C[Gattsu [8k\]: but l 14 still good
]
;W[nl]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ok]BL[331.118]C[SanSanych [4k\]: l15 work?
gc [2d\]: l15 might be good
talraii [2k?\]: l15 quite big...
toobadforu [15k?\]: seems like he doesnt want eyes, he wants to connect
saintSEIYA [1k\]: yes L15
]
;W[ll]WL[30]OW[3]C[Paradize [2k\]: even if White lives Black is ahead
Allende [6k\]: l15
]
;B[nk]BL[315.597]
;W[mk]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[lj]BL[311.987]C[PinotGris [3k?\]: L15 big move later
gc [2d\]: b is biting like a dog
MildPeril [2d\]: L15 not work...
Gattsu [8k\]: heh
PinotGris [3k?\]: artem is good
SanSanych [4k\]: b whants before connect p9 
]
;W[ol]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[mj]BL[306.208]C[MildPeril [2d\]: L14.. extend.. threaten 3 stones and cutting stone
Yaruki [10k\]: res
nogonow [2k\]: ???
]
;W[km]WL[30]OW[2]C[WaterAndGo [4k\]: nice
andy8452 [5k\]: r9
Allende [6k\]: oh oh
tassel [1k\]: live for your lives
]
;B[mp]BL[283.747]C[PinotGris [3k?\]: now b in trouble
stuppid: not
Paradize [2k\]: no two eyes
Ramza [2k\]: really?
SanSanych [4k\]: b live there
Deva [3k?\]: b is fine
SirKuros [13k\]: but why wouldn't l15 work mildperil
LSF [6k\]: b is alive with q2
]
;W[ka]WL[30]OW[2]C[ajoerg [6k?\]: i think lower b is fine.
XChingX [2k\]: p14 ...........
]
;B[ga]BL[273.284]C[gc [2d\]: l15 works now
Gattsu [8k\]: l14 
ftghz: turnover...
]
;W[mm]WL[30]OW[2]C[MildPeril [2d\]: now with M10.. is ok.. works..
toobadforu [15k?\]: w 14L b 15K w J15, 2-3 b stones dead
gc [2d\]: but not before
PinotGris [3k?\]: exchange?
]
;B[jo]BL[265.673]
;W[in]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[lq]BL[261.15]C[PinotGris [3k?\]: now w stones r crying
gc [2d\]: too strong
Gattsu [8k\]: j12  will have a chance too
LSF [6k\]: poor w
LSF [6k\]: w forsed b to reduse him
toobadforu [15k?\]: black will win cause of time :P
]
;W[jr]WL[30]OW[1]C[artem92 [7d\]: thx
])
