(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[300]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[kghin]PB[twoeye]WR[6d]BR[6d]DT[2009-05-17]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[B+1.50]
;B[pp]BL[298.487]C[kghin [6d\]: hi
twoeye [6d\]: hi
]
;W[dq]WL[284.576]
;B[pc]BL[296.342]
;W[dc]WL[282.101]
;B[de]BL[293.303]
;W[cg]WL[277.441]
;B[cc]BL[286.002]
;W[cb]WL[260.049]
;B[cd]BL[280.744]
;W[gc]WL[253.097]
;B[bb]BL[276.343]
;W[jc]WL[250.136]
;B[eb]BL[267.326]
;W[cj]WL[237.422]
;B[qe]BL[256.985]
;W[nq]WL[230.181]
;B[qn]BL[250.889]
;W[pr]WL[225.198]
;B[qq]BL[247.687]
;W[kq]WL[215.67]
;B[do]BL[245.309]
;W[fp]WL[194.074]
;B[cq]BL[243.816]
;W[cr]WL[191.417]
;B[cp]BL[243.161]
;W[cm]WL[190.311]C[leekc: W is beginner...already game is over......
]
;B[br]BL[230.667]
;W[dr]WL[186.805]
;B[cn]BL[229.346]
;W[dm]WL[180.056]
;B[bs]BL[228.158]C[azureazure [20k\]: what?
RayTomes [1d\]: we have a commedian
]
;W[bn]WL[163.342]
;B[bo]BL[225.986]
;W[dn]WL[162.506]
;B[co]BL[222.669]C[leekc: B is better situation
svgo [4k\]: snl
Nageru [5k\]: or just someone who doesnt know what hes talking about
UDxiaobing [?\]: w is not bad
leekc: yeah...beginners see their level....
esrig [7k\]: I'm so distracted by e17
Elandal [2k?\]: Don't worry, esrig.
]
;W[no]WL[93.759]
;B[pk]BL[210.451]
;W[nk]WL[81.374]
;B[fo]BL[206.147]
;W[eo]WL[76.567]
;B[ep]BL[203.784]
;W[en]WL[75.212]
;B[fq]BL[202.893]
;W[gp]WL[72.131]
;B[gq]BL[202.046]
;W[eq]WL[66.418]C[RayTomes [1d\]: kghin quite happy to sacrifice a few stones for big moyo
]
;B[dp]BL[185.739]
;W[hq]WL[64.306]
;B[hp]BL[184.438]
;W[go]WL[61.726]
;B[hr]BL[183.599]C[bitterness [3k\]: moyo is no guarantee
esrig [7k\]: seriously, what should white be thinking about at that point ... there are big uncharted areas, but how to choose?
]
;W[iq]WL[54.293]C[FriendFire [6k\]: w e14 to win
]
;B[fr]BL[171.214]
;W[ef]WL[43.988]C[bneeman [?\]: kg is a good fighter, so i think he trusts his ability to convert moyo into win
]
;B[ir]BL[162.921]C[RayTomes [1d\]: good call 6k!
FriendFire [6k\]: thx 1d
RayTomes [1d\]: whether it is win remains to be seen
FriendFire [6k\]: :-)
kahin [7k\]: haha
FriendFire [6k\]: right
]
;W[jq]WL[25.498]
;B[mj]BL[156.936]
;W[nj]WL[21.914]
;B[mi]BL[155.591]
;W[pj]WL[2.316]
;B[mk]BL[147.292]
;W[pl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[mm]BL[128.039]C[RayTomes [1d\]: kghin good at converting moyos to territory and twoeye good at living in tight places, so should be a great game
]
;W[kl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kj]BL[121.008]
;W[jj]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ji]BL[119.647]
;W[ij]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kk]BL[118.391]
;W[jl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ii]BL[117.221]
;W[hi]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qk]BL[111.377]
;W[ql]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qj]BL[104.941]
;W[nl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ll]BL[97.033]C[Mihan [4k\]: twoeye very rarely plays slow game. 
]
;W[qr]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[om]BL[89.067]
;W[ol]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nm]BL[86.395]
;W[ph]WL[30]OW[5]C[Juicy [8k\]: p8 dont look to good
FriendFire [6k\]: "Living in tight places" go best-seller
]
;B[rh]BL[73.224]C[bneeman [?\]: you mean like the back of a WV ?
]
;W[qf]WL[30]OW[5]C[RayTomes [1d\]: B p8 would look worse for him
]
;B[rf]BL[69.414]
;W[qg]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[rg]BL[68.301]C[Juicy [8k\]: no no
leekc: Please be quiet beginners....^^
Juicy [8k\]: i mean group
]
;W[pe]WL[30]OW[5]C[Juicy [8k\]: not move
]
;B[pd]BL[66.73]
;W[oe]WL[30]OW[5]C[Mihan [4k\]: so far w has done waay better. 
]
;B[oo]BL[16.267]C[bellophon: agreed.
]
;W[nc]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[hh]BL[13.835]C[kob93675 [1k\]: its the beginning
RayTomes [1d\]: twoeye is good at erasing potential
kob93675 [1k\]: so doesnt matter
]
;W[gi]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ig]BL[9.845]C[bellophon: whatever. Just speculation.
]
;W[qd]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[re]BL[8.337]
;W[qb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pb]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[qc]WL[30]OW[5]C[RayTomes [1d\]: exciting
]
;B[rd]BL[30]OB[5]C[leekc: always beginner are in noisy....^^
]
;W[ob]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qa]BL[30]OB[5]C[RayTomes [1d\]: leekc, are you a beginner?
Mihan [4k\]: what does that mean in English?
leekc: strong players are always in silent....^^
]
;W[ln]WL[30]OW[5]C[iu87: good one ray
bellophon: leekc, stop it. They have as much right to talk as we do.
bneeman [?\]: leekc not a beginner, leekc a troll
]
;B[mo]BL[30]OB[5]C[requires [1d\]: 2dks always pretend to be high dans and hide behind being unranked
]
;W[mn]WL[30]OW[5]C[Elandal [2k?\]: bad troll. Too easy and obvious.
RayTomes [1d\]: white wall from h11 to o5 has weaknesses
RayTomes [1d\]: B about to exploit them
]
;B[lm]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[nn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[km]BL[30]OB[5]C[RayTomes [1d\]: yep
]
;W[on]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pm]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[jm]WL[30]OW[5]C[requires [1d\]: we get trolled so easily because it's trivial to create unranked accounts and act like a jerk.  obvious steps to prevent this aren't taken, so it will go on forever
]
;B[kn]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[jn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jo]BL[30]OB[5]C[bneeman [?\]: what is the obvious step ?
Mihan [4k\]: To stop all internet. 
]
;W[po]WL[30]OW[5]C[RayTomes [1d\]: yes, maybe a feature could be made where when 3 people hiy a button to say "this guy is a jerk" he gets silenced.
RayTomes [1d\]: hit*
iPwnNoobs [2k\]: i dream of a day when we will all be trolls living happily in an EGR utopia
]
;B[lo]BL[30]OB[5]C[Cookies [2k\]: or you could censor him <_<
Mihan [4k\]: thats a horrible suggestion ray. 
requires [1d\]: the cost to enter is too low, so, raise it.  don't let - people kibitz, or allow auto-blocking by unranked, or sharing block lists
bellophon: shut up and watch the game.
FriendFire [6k\]: Ray, 3 is too few
bneeman [?\]: fair enough, you did say "obvious" not "viable"
]
;W[op]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jk]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ik]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gn]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[fn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ho]BL[30]OB[5]C[RayTomes [1d\]: why W does p4 not r5?
]
;W[gm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fo]BL[30]OB[5]C[requires [1d\]: censoring can't work, cause the cost to enter is too low; 5 seconds to create an account is balanced by hundreds of people all censoring; obviously it's not balanced
FriendFire [6k\]: perhaps KGS could price registration
]
;W[qo]WL[30]OW[5]C[requires [1d\]: just require people to be ranked before kibitzing, it's so easy.
]
;B[hm]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[hl]WL[30]OW[5]C[FriendFire [6k\]: good idea requires
]
;B[ro]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[rp]WL[30]OW[5]C[bneeman [?\]: i don't think it's a good idea
Mihan [4k\]: what do you mean the cost to enter is too low? There is no cost to enter. 
Elandal [2k?\]: time, Mihan
FriendFire [6k\]: really low huh?
arlefferts [10k\]: not hard to get ranked as a 30k
bellophon: aw, w shoulda gotten to h6 before b got to h7.
mike2096 [-\]: charging to enter kgs is just a bad idea
bellophon: too bad.
FriendFire [6k\]: 5 bucks to register at KGS
bneeman [?\]: i think a better idea would be to make a user's name click-able, so i dont have to go find him in the list to censor. And vote-kicking would be nice
mike2096 [-\]: go is meant to be free....
requires [1d\]: the trollers pay 5 second cost to make a new account.  for that cost they impose huge annoyance on hundreds of people.  therefore, the problem will continue.  requiring them to be ranked first would balance it
]
;B[eg]BL[30]OB[4]C[requires [1d\]: nobody suggested charging money.  this is about annoyance, not money
]
;W[fg]WL[30]OW[5]C[RayTomes [1d\]: I expected B g12
iPwnNoobs [2k\]: haha everybody lately has been trying to take mike2096's money for go
]
;B[fh]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[gh]WL[30]OW[5]C[bellophon: I'd support vote-kicking...
cuby [3k\]: laf
Mihan [4k\]: bad idea. I just log with 10 ips and kick every one. 
isoparm [3k\]: What we need is one of dem sherifs.
mike2096 [-\]: yea lately people want money so i can get lessons, and now so i can log on kgs..
]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[4]C[requires [1d\]: not allowing unranked to comment is a 10 minute change by wms that's been suggested for years.  but it is refused over and over, even as an option.
FriendFire [6k\]: we need more admins (terrible idea)
bneeman [?\]: Mihan: very few people have the capability to log with more than 1 ip
]
;W[gg]WL[30]OW[5]C[Elandal [2k?\]: Everyone can do it, bneeman..
]
;B[df]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[eh]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[dg]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[dh]WL[30]OW[5]C[bneeman [?\]: i don't mean technical capability ;)
RayTomes [1d\]: if more rights are given to regulars, control is possible
]
;B[gb]BL[30]OB[4]C[bellophon: smart- to attack at g14.
Elandal [2k?\]: Oh yes, you meant brain :)
]
;W[hb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fc]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ga]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fb]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[gd]WL[30]OW[5]C[RayTomes [1d\]: SE finally says B ahead
]
;B[le]BL[30]OB[4]C[Elandal [2k?\]: Moderation leads to metamoderation. My karma is excellent.
bneeman [?\]: at any rate, making a user's name click-able in chat log is a good start
]
;W[od]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[rb]BL[30]OB[4]C[Mihan [4k\]: true. but I suppose it needs a lot of code rewriting. 
RayTomes [1d\]: although SE goes have errors still
isoparm [3k\]: or maybe one of dem troll bounty hunner types...
]
;W[lf]WL[30]OW[5]C[iPwnNoobs [2k\]: SE will always have errors. it is part of its charm
]
;B[mf]BL[30]OB[4]C[bellophon: was s18 really necessary?
]
;W[kf]WL[30]OW[5]C[bubba [4d\]: the standard line wms gives is that if you can provide a weekend of babysitting, anything is possible
RayTomes [1d\]: does p11 or thereabouts capture o10 group?
]
;B[me]BL[30]OB[4]C[iPwnNoobs [2k\]: s18 was necessary
]
;W[kh]WL[30]OW[5]C[requires [1d\]: kgs code is frozen, no change is allowed, and it's actually made harder by the code obfuscation programs wms runs on it
]
;B[ki]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[mg]WL[30]OW[5]C[bneeman [?\]: lol bubba. if wms came to babysit my kid and gave me the source code i'll gladly make usernames clickable
]
;B[ng]BL[30]OB[4]C[cuby [3k\]: could you also make scroll wheel work for moving through game moves?
FriendFire [6k\]: if more than 20% of the people in a game censor an account , the account automatically is banned from that game and marked as suspect, next time 15%, 10% and so on
]
;W[mh]WL[30]OW[5]C[requires [1d\]: eyah i've decompiled it before to try to add banning kib by rank, but it's a huge mess.  there is a hacked client out there that has some nice features, but it's so hard to upkeep
hiss [1d\]: o15 instead of n15
RayTomes [1d\]: twoeye has nerves of steel
lawme [1k\]: black is becoming bad
Mihan [4k\]: shhh. b is dieing. 
]
;B[ni]BL[30]OB[3]C[RayTomes [1d\]: offers swap
bneeman [?\]: cuby: that depends on the JAVA version you have... some JAVAs don't recognise the scroll wheel at all. If wheel works for you in text, there's no reason why (with programming) it can't be made to work on game moves
]
;W[nh]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oi]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[rn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[rm]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[so]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oh]BL[30]OB[3]C[requires [1d\]: yeah cgoban-h has mouse wheel moving scrolling, and also uses colors to distinguish wins or losses, instead of the current insane black dot system
bellophon: w ++
]
;W[nf]WL[30]OW[5]C[RayTomes [1d\]: p13 OK
ASpecterPA [5k\]: Y'know, trolling is in the eye of the beholder...all this talk of banning is irritating, but I don't want to see u people banned.
isoparm [3k\]: 0 14 looks dangerous...
isoparm [3k\]: for w.
]
;B[og]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rl]WL[30]OW[5]C[mike2096 [-\]: anyone have links to other Cgobans then the ones on kgs site?
]
;B[qm]BL[30]OB[2]C[illusion53 [-\]: psh
]
;W[sm]WL[30]OW[5]C[illusion53 [-\]: now b gets nothing
requires [1d\]: nobody said banning.  it's the same as how we don't allow children to yell and disturb shakespeare plays; we ptu them in another room until they demonstrate some self-control
RayTomes [1d\]: L15
bellophon: woe. just died!
RayTomes [1d\]: what died?
]
;B[jd]BL[30]OB[2]C[solamia [8k\]: just censor them and move on
bellophon: black there.
cod [7k\]: well i know two eye is usaly kicking but ... sooo
RayTomes [1d\]: no B died?
RayTomes [1d\]: which ones?
Nageru [5k\]: why did black connect at p13?
Nageru [5k\]: was it just time stress?
isoparm [3k\]: q 11 still there. for b.
RayTomes [1d\]: to capture N13 stones
]
;W[ke]WL[30]OW[4]C[isoparm [3k\]: Not dead yet.
]
;B[kd]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ld]WL[30]OW[4]C[bellophon: small middle black bit died. I don't know when...
illusion53 [-\]: he connected because of kiai
bellophon: mm
isoparm [3k\]: hehe.
]
;B[md]BL[30]OB[2]C[isoparm [3k\]: this aint kendo.
RayTomes [1d\]: B connected out to lower left
Nageru [5k\]: oh ok I see
]
;W[lc]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[je]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mc]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[kc]BL[30]OB[2]C[illusion53 [-\]: kiai is not exclusively kendo terminology lol
isoparm [3k\]: q 14 cut still there.
napoleone [6k\]: kiai can be for anything
isoparm [3k\]: but it does make a nice mental image....
]
;W[ic]WL[30]OW[4]C[napoleone [6k\]: even go
]
;B[kb]BL[30]OB[2]C[isoparm [3k\]: KIAAAAA!
isoparm [3k\]: atari.
]
;W[fe]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ee]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gf]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[bg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ch]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[bf]BL[30]OB[2]C[bellophon: q 14 cut meaningless.
Mihan [4k\]: q11
napoleone [6k\]: kiai is a general word that can be used in any situation
isoparm [3k\]: p 10.
esrig [7k\]: w k14?
]
;W[pf]WL[30]OW[4]C[RayTomes [1d\]: q14 not meaningless - 
cod [7k\]: k14
]
;B[bm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bl]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[an]BL[30]OB[2]C[toman118 [4d\]: why black don't kill white?
]
;W[al]WL[30]OW[4]C[FriendFire [6k\]: lazy
RayTomes [1d\]: where?
]
;B[in]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[il]WL[30]OW[4]C[toman118 [4d\]: M12
]
;B[jr]BL[30]OB[2]C[RayTomes [1d\]: how?
]
;W[kr]WL[30]OW[4]C[RayTomes [1d\]: m12 m13
requires [1d\]: can't b make a big semeaih15 g15 m18 ?
Nageru [5k\]: he cant can he?
michka [1d\]: n19 kill by ko
]
;B[ks]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ls]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[js]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[cf]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[fd]BL[30]OB[2]C[leekc: Please be quiet beginners as like strong players....^^
]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[jf]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ne]WL[30]OW[4]C[RayTomes [1d\]: there is a leek in here
]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[2]C[FriendFire [6k\]: leekc, you current translator is not very good
]
;W[oc]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[rc]BL[30]OB[2]C[mollycat [8k\]: eek a leek
]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[4]C[leekc: Beginners are in noisy always....^^
]
;B[be]BL[30]OB[2]C[patrickn [7k\]: lol
michka [1d\]: o19
FriendFire [6k\]: definitely bad translator
pwntar: i konw it gets so annoying
isoparm [3k\]: m2
]
;W[mp]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[lr]BL[30]OB[2]C[RayTomes [1d\]: leekc is stuck in loop on noisy mode
Nageru [5k\]: if Im being trolled, I at least want to do it with gramatical integrity....spelling doesnt count lol
]
;W[ms]WL[30]OW[4]C[FriendFire [6k\]: lol
patrickn [7k\]: push!
patrickn [7k\]: n1
]
;B[lp]BL[30]OB[2]C[svgo [4k\]: speling gramatical rockz
]
;W[lq]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ge]WL[30]OW[4]C[bneeman [?\]: here you go: "if Im being trolled, I at least want to *be done* with gramatical integrity"
]
;B[rk]BL[30]OB[2]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: haha bneeman
Nageru [5k\]: thank you lol
]
;W[pi]WL[30]OW[4]C[bneeman [?\]: missing "it" in there, but you get the point
]
;B[sk]BL[30]OB[2]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh
Nageru [5k\]: it to be done
RayTomes [1d\]: W winning by capture of m15 stones
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i thought you left out the "it" deliberately
solamia [8k\]: i miss the airplane on a treadmill kind of trolling
]
;W[bh]WL[30]OW[4]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: if you leave out the "it", it has the exact opposite meaning!
]
;B[ah]BL[30]OB[2]C[bneeman [?\]: warfreak, just a happy accident =)
]
;W[ai]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ag]BL[30]OB[2]C[isoparm [3k\]: m 12
svgo [4k\]: whose law was that--that every nitpicky grammar or spelling correction on the internet will have its own spelling or grammar error?
isoparm [3k\]: b
]
;W[lb]WL[30]OW[4]C[toman118 [4d\]: 183 b M12 wM13 b k14 w o15 b m18 wn18 bo19
bneeman [?\]: svgo: that was i
Warfreak2 [4d\]: naruki's law
Warfreak2 [4d\]: commonly misspelled deliberately as naurki's law
]
;B[sl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[oj]WL[30]OW[4]C[FriendFire [6k\]: leekc's law
]
;B[sn]BL[30]OB[2]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: actually naruki's law is not limited to spelling and grammatical errors, merely errors
]
;W[ro]WL[30]OW[4]C[bopo [4d\]: b-m12
patrickn [7k\]: lol
]
;B[la]BL[30]OB[2]C[RayTomes [1d\]: m12 o16 :-)
]
;W[ma]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ka]BL[30]OB[2]C[shodansoon [-\]: m13 is worth more
toman118 [4d\]: when move 183
]
;W[nd]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[na]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mb]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[oa]BL[30]OB[2]C[Vinicius [1d\]: b had many chances to kill white (i think)
]
;W[jh]WL[30]OW[4]C[FriendFire [6k\]: b is losing by?
RayTomes [1d\]: B counting - news not good
]
;B[ih]BL[30]OB[1]C[Mihan [4k\]: looks close. 
]
;W[lh]WL[30]OW[4]C[mollycat [8k\]: 2 eye seems to be playing without confidence recently
]
;B[jg]BL[30]OB[1]C[RayTomes [1d\]: was winning this untill n14 etc lost
mollycat [8k\]: he may be on his 7th or 8th life
]
;W[kg]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[bi]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[aj]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[mr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ns]WL[30]OW[4]C[Mihan [4k\]: whats b doing?\\
]
;B[am]BL[30]OB[1]C[bopo [4d\]: so small
Nageru [5k\]: getting time?
iPwnNoobs [2k\]: thinking
]
;W[bj]WL[30]OW[4]C[bneeman [?\]: burning ko threats for time
]
;B[gl]BL[30]OB[1]C[isoparm [3k\]: fishing.
]
;W[fm]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[im]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hj]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[fa]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[qi]WL[30]OW[4]C[bopo [4d\]: only0.5-2
]
;B[ri]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ip]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[io]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kp]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ko]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ha]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[jb]BL[30]OB[1]C[MyrDeath [12k?\]: W+.5
bellophon: hmm, it's close. Who's winning?
RayTomes [1d\]: SE says W + 0.5
]
;W[id]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ib]BL[30]OB[1]C[MyrDeath [12k?\]: b+3.5
]
;W[ie]WL[30]OW[4]C[bopo [4d\]: B+0.5-2
nathanha0 [1k\]: h16?
]
;B[ia]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hc]WL[30]OW[4]C[nathanha0 [1k\]: why that?
]
;B[li]BL[30]OB[1]C[MyrDeath [12k?\]: b 2.5
]
;W[hf]WL[30]OW[4]C[RayTomes [1d\]: so close
]
;B[sm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ce]WL[30]OW[4]C[patrickn [7k\]: b did well
]
;B[dd]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[4]C[MyrDeath [12k?\]: go two eye!
]
;B[nr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[os]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bd]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ad]BL[30]OB[1]C[iPwnNoobs [2k\]: bet he wishes he didn't waste those threats now
]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[or]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ps]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ao]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ap]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[4]C[bopo [4d\]: B+2.5
gojustingo [8k\]: can't w see that ko is not enough?
iPwnNoobs [2k\]: q3 
]
;B[pq]BL[30]OB[1]C[Mihan [4k\]: so pointless ko?
MyrDeath [12k?\]: no S***
]
;W[oq]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[1]C[mollycat [8k\]: for that last half point
]
;W[nb]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[pa]BL[30]OB[1]C[mollycat [8k\]: close game
]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[qh]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[pg]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ae]WL[30]OW[4]C[bneeman [?\]: it's 1 pt, not half
]
;B[bc]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[4]C[RayTomes [1d\]: s2
MyrDeath [12k?\]: yeah lol
MyrDeath [12k?\]: either way
]
;B[jp]BL[30]OB[1]C[isoparm [3k\]: k 3
MyrDeath [12k?\]: black is still up by 1.5
]
;W[mq]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[1]C[MyrDeath [12k?\]: or 2.5
Warfreak2 [4d\]: 1/2 + -1/2 = 1
]
;W[ac]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[bd]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[4]C[Mihan [4k\]: there is always a chance to make bad ko threats. 
]
;B[]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ff]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[]WL[30]OW[4]TW[hd][md][he][le][me][mf][lg][fh][bi][ci][di][ei][fi][dj][ej][fj][gj][ak][bk][ck][dk][ek][fk][gk][hk][cl][dl][el][fl][gl][em][oo][np][pp][qp][sp][pq][qq][rq][sq][lr][mr][nr][or][rr][sr][qs][rs][ss]TB[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][ja][ra][sa][ab][cb][db][qb][sb][ac][dc][ec][qc][sc][ed][qd][sd][ae][se][af][sf][sg][sh][si][lj][rj][sj][lk][bn][hn][ao][go][bp][fp][gp][aq][bq][dq][eq][ar][cr][dr][er][gr][as][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is]C[MyrDeath [12k?\]: they're both good enough not to
Nageru [5k\]: 1/2 + -1/2 = 0
pwntar: no 1/2 + -1/2 = o
Warfreak2 [4d\]: whether or not the players know the ko does not decide the game, it is still best to play it out, because to give up the ko, and then find out you counted wrong and lost by 0.5, would be terrible
isoparm [3k\]: or eternity could end.
MyrDeath [12k?\]: Yay!
MyrDeath [12k?\]: go two eye
isoparm [3k\]: Nice.
RayTomes [1d\]: good game both
kghin [6d\]: thx
cuby [3k\]: what a game
twoeye [6d\]: thx
master99 [1d\]: very nice game
])
