(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[10/300 Canadian]
PW[artem92]PB[bigbadwolf]WR[7d]BR[9d]DT[2009-04-19]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[artem92 [7d\]: hi
bigbadwolf [9d\]: hello, good luck
artem92 [7d\]: good luck
Fredrik [-\]: go europe!
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1790.743]C[pasky [-\]: europee \\o/
cocaDJ [5d\]: GO EUROPE 
Shinichi56 [-\]: chauuuuuuuuuud
]
;W[dd]WL[1778.36]C[pasky [-\]: raw artem power
pasky [-\]: unleash!
]
;B[qp]BL[1781.423]C[dantesxx [?\]: Go Go Artem Go!
niki [2k\]: this weekend's jsut full of tournaments
zarif [5k\]: go BBW
cadillac [5d\]: nigiri online is just random assignments right
cadillac [5d\]: ?
nihkddas [4d\]: sure
cadillac [5d\]: haha
]
;W[dp]WL[1757.002]C[Woodstock [-\]: go artem!
]
;B[oq]BL[1776.403]C[Novalys [3k\]: oh artem bbw, this will be cool
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: artem!
Levvo [13k\]: Who was from europe? xD
VABAGUNDO: ARTEM LOSE
rats [1d?\]: i haven't seen bbw as black yet, this will be fun
drakedog: wow
akkannbee [4d\]: how old is bbw?
oonicks [?\]: me2
Woodstock [-\]: 17
E1chh0rn [1k\]: 17
oonicks [?\]: go bbw
beethoven [-\]: bigbadwolf!
nogo123 [9k\]: ios this cnada vs europe?
]
;W[qj]WL[1710.753]C[zarif [5k\]: артем!!
pasky [-\]: yay oonicks my favorite kibitzer
Korea4K [2d\]: free game?
]
;B[fc]BL[1769.695]C[VABAGUNDO: paid game
nogo123 [9k\]: its europe vs who?
]
;W[cf]WL[1698.667]C[Dusselbaer [6k\]: by the way - who is big bad wolf (what a nickname ^^)?
pasky [-\]: vs US
Xtremoduro [2d\]: us and can
cocaDJ [5d\]: Java give some links please:D
Xtremoduro [2d\]: so, who else has the americas besides bbw?
nogo123 [9k\]: so its only one match?
drakedog: artem = pro!
VABAGUNDO: institue
Siljan [?\]: Europe vs. USA + Canada
]
;B[qh]BL[1713.902]C[Laza [-\]: b is blowing but w has jacket :)))
VABAGUNDO: two countries against one continent? sounds unfair
nogo123 [9k\]: lol
Feanor [1k\]: so far he's not a pro
glint [-\]: Europe is not a country
]
;W[qm]WL[1674.189]C[VABAGUNDO: oh really??
nidza92 [-\]: really?
Xtremoduro [2d\]: thats why he said continent
Banedon421 [4k\]: lol
cocaDJ [5d\]: good one Laza
nogo123 [9k\]: europe is such a good place for GO, they have the best players
pwaldron [-\]: remains to be seen :)
MrZNF [5k\]: People think Europe is a country? XD
yifu [28k\]: I agree
Levvo [13k\]: XD
Dani01 [8k\]: go EU
yifu [28k\]: EUUUUUUUUU
drakedog: france is a river
MrZNF [5k\]: go Europe :)
Levvo [13k\]: How old is Artem then? O.o
glint [-\]: VABAGUNDO D- for Geography
dima [2d\]: well, I think europe is a city...
sucker: who's BBW?
Xtremoduro [2d\]: yuuurop.. theme parks and the queen 
Xtremoduro [2d\]: what else
yifu [28k\]: Thi evening France vs Canada
Feanor [1k\]: europe is a moon actually
VABAGUNDO: glint Z- in english
]
;B[pl]BL[1651.428]C[Laza [-\]: r5 ?
VABAGUNDO: i never said europe was a country...
Feanor [1k\]: it's one of the Jupiter's moons :p
yifu [28k\]: ^^
dantesxx [?\]: Hey Laza, have you played yet?
Laza [-\]: in 2 hours
Xtremoduro [2d\]: against?
dantesxx [?\]: Cool, I'll watch
sucker: it's Europa
Feanor [1k\]: it's the same name, sucker
Korea4K [2d\]: P10 normal
]
;W[qo]WL[1627.608]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: europa is the lathin name i guess¿
]
;B[ro]BL[1644.842]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: latin
Feanor [1k\]: greek, more like
nogo123 [9k\]: make tigers mouth!
tromp [-\]: w shld be happy to play s6
nogo123 [9k\]: or block at R8
CNorris [4k\]: do they play at home ?
miao [5d\]: what is this about?
]
;W[pp]WL[1561.083]C[miao [5d\]: special event?
pwaldron [-\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/TransAtlanticYouth/
Syanide32 [7k\]: so these two are actually playing on KGS? or is this a... broadcast (for lack of a better word) of a live game?
Korea4K [2d\]: R6
nogo123 [9k\]: wow that was kind of unusual
Korea4K [2d\]: b should decide for center
iampuh [1k\]: they play at home
tromp [-\]: u mean side
cocaDJ [5d\]: miao a guy from Germany is also playing 
Korea4K [2d\]: y
nogo123 [9k\]: now black has to defend but at the same time has great attacking point and the same for white
dima [2d\]: transatlantic championship played on kgs, for lack of a location in the middle of atlantic
cocaDJ [5d\]: maybe you know him 
odnihs [1k\]: Go bbw! 
odnihs [1k\]: :D
nogo123 [9k\]: Q3
Korea4K [2d\]: corner is now unimportant
miao [5d\]: not bad
tromp [-\]: q3 seems inconsistent with s5
thekaiser [1k\]: so q5?
CNorris [4k\]: can't they cheat if they play at home ?
nogo123 [9k\]: R3
Vega [2k\]: aterm, my favorite :D
Korea4K [2d\]: r6 and q6
Xtremoduro [2d\]: duh, the americas has quite an amount of asian players
cyufuko [4k?\]: Which term?
yifu [28k\]: lol
]
;B[po]BL[1528.943]C[Vega [2k\]: arterm '__' 
]
;W[qn]WL[1550.123]
;B[rp]BL[1526.863]C[dima [2d\]: keep practicing vega, you'll get it eventually :)
zarif [5k\]: BBW just 17, i thought he older
kimlongVN [3k?\]: p6
]
;W[ql]WL[1515.033]C[Vega [2k\]: =))
miao [5d\]: is this standart?
Levvo [13k\]: Artem is 16 ;O
]
;B[op]BL[1517.641]C[Vega [2k\]: arterm is 'bout my age
E1chh0rn [1k\]: good result for b
]
;W[pk]WL[1489.51]C[yifu [28k\]: Is Q4 dead ?
Vega [2k\]: r5 bad?
glint [-\]: Why isn't Fredrik playing for Europe?
patrickn [9k?\]: lol
flanigan: the old wolf looks a bit out of breath ;)
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: big bad wolf andy liu?
dima [2d\]: yes
tromp [-\]: w r5 only served to solidify b corner
Novalys [3k\]: i've seen r5 before but with a better result
Billy182 [7k\]: yes Q4 is dead so far
yifu [28k\]: k
VABAGUNDO: b+
Fredrik [-\]: glint, dont know :(
uurtamo [12k?\]: but note, yifu, that q4 lets w have ataris at p5 or q6, so it's still a useful stone.
MrZNF [5k\]: w needs to get sente, otherwise it would be really bad D:
Kanin [-\]: did you even know about this tournament fredrik?
piku [3k\]: f3?
yifu [28k\]: ok
Fredrik [-\]: apperently they based the invitation for this game from the recent european youth result, but I was not allowed to play in the european youth
Fredrik [-\]: it's quite stupid
patrickn [9k?\]: i love it when people call the game at like move 20
jjermann [2d?\]: MrZNF: this is not so bad for w
Fredrik [-\]: but europe win anyway
Fredrik [-\]: just a small handicap :)
toopp: :|
nusatthu [?\]: j17
Vega [2k\]: :|
MrZNF [5k\]: seems not really good for w imo, I like blacks position better so far
VABAGUNDO: b little better
jjermann [2d?\]: Q9 is good for w and the lower right is good for b
thekaiser [1k\]: because b begin the game...
LikeSand [5k\]: Oh 
VABAGUNDO: no more than that
Novalys [3k\]: P5 will be nice later
jjermann [2d?\]: I dont know who is better here
glint [-\]: Fredrik, have you seen the US lineup?
jjermann [2d?\]: probably it is b
Kimas [10k\]: who is from usa ?
jjermann [2d?\]: but not that much
Korea4K [2d\]:  w more better
pwaldron [-\]: players and biographies at http://usgo.org/tournaments/TransAtlanticYouth/
Kimas [10k\]: which one?
LikeSand [5k\]: F15?
thekaiser [1k\]: quite even
Levvo [13k\]: bbw is from the usa
baseless [-\]: thanks pwaldron
thekaiser [1k\]: c9
olyv [7k\]: no handi for this game?
Gizensha [?\]: tournaments rarely have handicaps
Zhuxi [22k?\]: hi
Korea4K [2d\]: D18 or C6
VABAGUNDO: hi Zhuxi
Korea4K [2d\]: i will D18
olyv [7k\]: sorry i didn't know about tournament
k43r [3k\]: d18 too
Zhuxi [22k?\]: hi Javaness
MrZNF [5k\]: why D6 instead of F3?
VABAGUNDO: hi Javaness
nusatthu [?\]: j17 now
nusatthu [?\]: :P
Korea4K [2d\]: Lee Chang Ho played once D18
k43r [3k\]: so?
Korea4K [2d\]: y
Korea4K [2d\]: ^^
k43r [3k\]: xD
Javaness [-\]: why are people saying hello to me? 
VABAGUNDO: hi Javaness
cadillac [5d\]: lol why not
Elscouta [3k\]: because we love you !
Javaness [-\]: *\\o/* Go Artem *\\o/*
Lynx [2d\]: hi javaness
Elscouta [3k\]: hi btw
sucker: hi Javaness
MrZNF [5k\]: Hi Javaness
glint [-\]: sucking up
]
;B[pc]BL[1157.845]C[Vega [2k\]: hi javaness =))
Elscouta [3k\]: *pats squirrels head*
Ukoku [5k\]: schleimer ..
VABAGUNDO: Uh unexpected move
IchiKen: honte
Vega [2k\]: q17 what a.......divined move
LikeSand [4k\]: ft
Lynx [2d\]: I'd bet $10 on b
Lynx [2d\]: ^_^
VABAGUNDO: i find q17 a sucker move
bartosh91 [5k\]: isnt it too small?
simplet [2d\]: its the say hello to javaness happen
jjermann [2d?\]: q17 is nice I think
Vega [2k\]: he's 9 dan
Korea4K [2d\]: Q17 is too slow
VABAGUNDO: w still has r14 for very later
glint [-\]: I wonder how much chance Artem have in this game, BB usually play blitz right?
oonicks [?\]: i like it, surprising and equal in value to other moves at the mop
Lynx [2d\]: nonsense
oonicks [?\]: top
Vega [2k\]: if u can beat him q17 would be bad ;))
miao [5d\]: i think it is even
Lynx [2d\]: glint - BBW is a powerhouse Artem is going to lose :P
LikeSand [4k\]: F14?
dima [2d\]: bbw escaped :)
Ludmila [5k\]: prob was maybe w r14
Vega [2k\]: *sigh*
simplet [2d\]: maybe r14 is good rite now
Feanor [1k\]: too scared, obviously :)
jjermann [2d?\]: r14 is not good now I think
glint [-\]: I have that feeling to Lynx, but I gotta root for Artem :)
jjermann [2d?\]: too slow in any case
Lynx [2d\]: r14 feels small
jjermann [2d?\]: it feels like the wrong timing
simplet [2d\]: a ok ;p
Lynx [2d\]: something like g3 or h17 seems called for
jjermann [2d?\]: since w is already strong on the right R12 is not important no?
Feanor [1k\]: h17 maybe
MrZNF [5k\]: J16 :)
Daihokama [5k?\]: p8 
toopp: they have  played against each other on tygem http://www.gosensations.com/?id=2&server_id=4&new_id=146
toopp: bbw won 1,5
VABAGUNDO: e17 f16 j16 
VABAGUNDO: read this
VABAGUNDO: i read this
Vega [2k\]: most players of A team is Asia
Vega [2k\]: :|
]
;W[ic]WL[1285.711]C[bigbadwolf [9d\]: slightly bad connection here, sry
thekaiser [1k\]: or d10
MrZNF [5k\]: aww, was one spot above it :(
artem92 [7d\]: no problem
]
;B[kc]BL[1134.34]C[MrZNF [5k\]: Jump!
Gizensha [?\]: for them to be native amricans would mean only indians allowed :)
]
;W[ie]WL[1278.154]C[zekses [2k\]: b can make stanley-like stronghold XD
jjermann [2d?\]: D17?
jjermann [2d?\]: or is that overplay?
LIshikawa [5k\]: 3--3 remains also
kimlongVN [3k?\]: c17
MrZNF [5k\]: C17
kimlongVN [3k?\]: b wii att
kimlongVN [3k?\]: i ting
jjermann [2d?\]: D17 is better than C17 if it works I think
MrZNF [5k\]: C17 probably small though
jjermann [2d?\]: but probably it is overplay
jjermann [2d?\]: too greedy
kimlongVN [3k?\]: no run and run
MrZNF [5k\]: gives white a lot of strength
Korea4K [2d\]:  D17 can live but small live by gote
Vega [2k\]: how come he escape f17 ?
MrZNF [5k\]: L15 seems fine?
kimlongVN [3k?\]: c17big land
jjermann [2d?\]: C17 is easy, D17 is complicated?
VABAGUNDO: big like russia
Korea4K [2d\]: C6 is best move  for  next
Vega [2k\]: d17 c17 e16 d18 d15 e17 e15 c15 
Vega [2k\]: @_@
Lynx [2d\]: w shape feel strong
Vega [2k\]: not too good
JSher [4k\]: n16 not agressive enough?
jjermann [2d?\]: maybe b should tenuki
goodattack [1d\]: f3
oonicks [?\]: b can play f15
dima [2d\]: why russia, vabagundo?
jjermann [2d?\]: f15 is not good
Zhuxi [22k?\]: hiya
jjermann [2d?\]: L15 might be ok
VABAGUNDO: is there any country bigger than russia?
MrZNF [5k\]: L15 was my idea D:
Feanor [1k\]: no
sucker: vatican
Lynx [2d\]: isnt america reall ybig?
Zhuxi [22k?\]: hiya
oonicks [?\]: antartica but its breaking apart
Zhuxi [22k?\]: hiya
MrZNF [5k\]: but tenuki seems nice too
Courgette [2k\]: h16 ?
jjermann [2d?\]: w M16 or W L15 is annoying
Zhuxi [22k?\]: hiya
kimlongVN [3k?\]: w haveing shape goog
starnimg: c6 is good option yes
LikeSand [4k\]: A good Lesson
kimlongVN [3k?\]: out ste strong for w
lithograph [4k\]: where is this tournament taking place?
MrZNF [5k\]: can somebody explain why C6 is better then F3?
]
;B[fe]BL[894.125]C[Korea4K [2d\]: L15 is kyu level b should not play for territory
ip: how old is bigbadwolf?
]
;W[ke]WL[1266.202]C[starnimg: read table
VABAGUNDO: 69
Levvo [13k\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/TransAtlanticYouth/
Lynx [2d\]: l15 kyu level :P
Zhuxi [22k?\]: hiya
Vega [2k\]: =))
Korea4K [2d\]: now D17
requires [1d\]: f3 is better than c6 now isn't it?  going towards thickness 
Korea4K [2d\]: D17 is good timing
VABAGUNDO: are you really korean?
visiteur2: how old is bbw?
Vega [2k\]: leave 2 sotne outside?
Korea4K [2d\]: i come from mars
Vega [2k\]: stones*
dima [2d\]: earlier said bbw is 17
jjermann [2d?\]: N16?
jjermann [2d?\]: ir N17?
Feanor [1k\]: valentine michael smith?
Vega [2k\]: arterm is 17
kimlongVN [3k?\]: may be b will att out site
bartosh91 [5k\]: n16 
Levvo [13k\]: Artem is 16
kimlongVN [3k?\]: e 13
Vega [2k\]: was not he borned in 92?
Vega [2k\]: 17 right?
jjermann [2d?\]: e13?!
Levvo [13k\]: BBW -> Andy Liu (17) Artem -> Artem Kachanovskyj (16)
jjermann [2d?\]: e13 just helps w
BLAME [-\]: could be either
Korea4K [2d\]: D17 oo
jjermann [2d?\]: I was for D17 before
patrickn [9k?\]: mono -> one, rail -> rail
jjermann [2d?\]: but if w gets too strong it is not good
]
;B[mc]BL[726.793]C[jjermann [2d?\]: N17 :)
jjermann [2d?\]: hehe
Vega [2k\]: unexpected :)
nogonow [3k\]: aterm í prety strong but big í 9d and top player!!
XY0908 [-\]: Thanks Levvo.
jjermann [2d?\]: not so unexpected
jjermann [2d?\]: seems like the most solid shape
Korea4K [2d\]: corner is far bigger than M17
LikeSand [4k\]: Hard for B.
jjermann [2d?\]: Korea4K: certainly not
Vega [2k\]: yea hard
Korea4K [2d\]: M17 is just slow move
jjermann [2d?\]: M17 is very nice
jjermann [2d?\]: solid
DiGigot [7k\]: if you're so smart, why aren't you all 9d ?
Vega [2k\]: n16 better?
jjermann [2d?\]: can play K16 afterwards
Feanor [1k\]: n17 u mean
Korea4K [2d\]: w play now E17
Feanor [1k\]: although I'd expect n16 instead
iouzip [4k\]: n17 sets up the peep around K16
jjermann [2d?\]: w's J17 group is not 100% alive
iouzip [4k\]: atleast thats how i read it =|
nusatthu [?\]: r14 ??
VABAGUNDO: n17 group is not 100% alive
thekaiser [1k\]: lol
Vega [2k\]: lol
Feanor [1k\]: eh?
jjermann [2d?\]: well N17 group is in perfect shape
E1chh0rn [1k\]: bbw alsays plays solid and territorry-oriented
Korea4K [2d\]: b invested too many stone for one 
jjermann [2d?\]: J17 has a weakness
Feanor [1k\]: u must be pro, vabagundo
VABAGUNDO: almost pro
Fredrik [-\]: this will be a very close game
Feanor [1k\]: although I doubt even a pro could kill n17 :)
Vega [2k\]: .___.
oonicks [?\]: f3 f13 or d18?
thekaiser [1k\]: so w e17 or j13 maybe
iouzip [4k\]: D18 isnt sente =|
]
;W[ig]WL[1084.61]C[jjermann [2d?\]: ah w fixed the weakness
Vega [2k\]: j15 can't atk f15  at all
iouzip [4k\]: lol so he protects the peep =|
jjermann [2d?\]: nice
Vega [2k\]: yup
sucker: vabagundo plans to establish his own pro association and pay himself
CNorris [4k\]: imo only chuck norris can kill n17
Vega [2k\]: nice
nusatthu [?\]: d18 now
Feanor [1k\]: indeed, norris
oonicks [?\]: its big and it makes b has to flee with a poitnless group later
iouzip [4k\]: D18 is bad for B
jjermann [2d?\]: D18 is very bad
Vega [2k\]: d18 is small zzz
miao [5d\]: j13 nice
nusatthu [?\]: ^^
Vega [2k\]: and doest not make a good shape
Vega [2k\]: :|
Vega [2k\]: does*
jjermann [2d?\]: w wants to play F13 next
patrickn [9k?\]: is b going to f13?
oonicks [?\]: isn't it if b plays it now he lives?
miao [5d\]: maybe
iouzip [4k\]: W still makes profit on let side?
miao [5d\]: d17 possilble too
iouzip [4k\]: left*
rats [1d?\]: b probably jump out again
miksu [7k\]: f13
jjermann [2d?\]: the problem is that w now has a nice shape
jjermann [2d?\]: so if b jumps out there seems to be no good attack on w's group
]
;B[df]BL[584.859]C[iouzip [4k\]: oh?
iouzip [4k\]: lol
miao [5d\]: wow
VABAGUNDO: congratz zhuxi
VABAGUNDO: you called it
VABAGUNDO: nice job
rats [1d?\]: i can still imagine the 4 white stones coming under attack later
jjermann [2d?\]: b is trying to prevent a (nice) enclosure of w in sente I think
jjermann [2d?\]: s/of w/by w/
cressida [25k?\]: you guys are really good
iouzip [4k\]: if B jumps out at f13.. cant W make a lot of points on the left side?
]
;W[de]WL[1010.115]C[guest1507: we can imagine anything, except nothing
]
;B[cg]BL[582.259]C[bartosh91 [5k\]: d13 
mausklick [2d\]: haha :)
illusion53 [1d\]: how old is bbw
Feanor [1k\]: no need to imagine nothing
xio [9k\]: bbw on b with no handi?
]
;W[ef]WL[990.223]
;B[dg]BL[579.894]C[VABAGUNDO: BBW is 50 years old
]
;W[ee]WL[985.644]
;B[cc]BL[577.034]C[Shoujin [5d?\]: holy crap, bbw has less time than his opponent
Nemu91 [5k\]: 17 i think
easycow [1k\]: yeah, he is the american youth :))
VABAGUNDO: why so many ppl are interested in his age
Shoujin [5d?\]: yeah, he's 17
Levvo [13k\]: Look here x) http://usgo.org/tournaments/TransAtlanticYouth/
jjermann [2d?\]: B15 or D17 next?
mausklick [2d\]: nice way out
maxp73 [-\]: 17 YO and 9D??
nogonow [3k\]: i love ư hể
]
;W[eb]WL[956.387]
;B[db]BL[573.307]C[Nemu91 [5k\]: yeah =)
Feanor [1k\]: sure, maxp
illusion53 [1d\]: because never thought he's a teen
rats [1d?\]: i don't like b's position.. he has 3 groups there
MrZNF [5k\]: He gave up one one
iouzip [4k\]: B sac F17 and F15?
Nemu91 [5k\]: GO BBW
VABAGUNDO: bbw doesnt want to be pro
mausklick [2d\]: he is american?
thekaiser [1k\]: f17/f15 = almost dead
Nemu91 [5k\]: yes
easycow [1k\]: b15 connects there i guess
jjermann [2d?\]: rats: b won't try to keep all groups
iouzip [4k\]: the two walls are too close anyways
tromp [-\]: b15 connects
iouzip [4k\]: if B can connect I think B is better off =|
carbon729 [3d\]: with B15 connect
limestruck [2k\]: bbw ex insei?
martin3141 [3k\]: b15 connects c13 and c17?
iouzip [4k\]: yeah
kimlongVN [3k?\]: so trong for black
Feanor [1k\]: yes
iouzip [4k\]: B15
martin3141 [3k\]: for b
Korea4K [2d\]: b  tactic is not good 
VABAGUNDO: haha
Feanor [1k\]: so
Nemu91 [5k\]: lol
jjermann [2d?\]: hehe
kimlongVN [3k?\]: w lose out site
Korea4K [2d\]: corner is small 
Feanor [1k\]: protect the cut maybe?
Nemu91 [5k\]: 2d  say 9d tactic not good XDD
VABAGUNDO: this korea buddy is more funny than any guest
iouzip [4k\]: the W walls are too close anyways
easycow [1k\]: w is overconcentrated if he plays e17
xio [9k\]: It;'s funny to put EU falg, when most of participants are from non-eu countries :)
jjermann [2d?\]: Korea4K: you are contradicting yourself here but anyway
]
;W[ec]WL[849.338]C[thekaiser [1k\]: but s13/s13 stones change the situation
]
;B[be]BL[571.389]C[MrZNF [5k\]: I like B's position :)
]
;W[eg]WL[843.244]C[Nemu91 [5k\]: I LOVE b's position ^^
easycow [1k\]: b overwhelming :)
VABAGUNDO: s13/s13 = 1
thekaiser [1k\]: c/d sorry 
easycow [1k\]: f3 
thekaiser [1k\]: xD
]
;B[fq]BL[541.755]C[easycow [1k\]: yes
Nemu91 [5k\]: =)
Raph95 [21k\]: wow
jjermann [2d?\]: kind of a probe
jjermann [2d?\]: to see if w pincers or not
mausklick [2d\]: b13?
]
;W[dn]WL[807.12]C[VABAGUNDO: B shows how to play go
easycow [1k\]: c8 :)
solowolfs [6k\]: big and nice wolf
]
;B[fo]BL[515.991]C[MrZNF [5k\]: c7
DasWiesel [?\]: vabagundo shows how to bother
merengue [3d\]: censor him
thekaiser [1k\]: provocation :p
jer [5d\]: e13 too slow?
jjermann [2d?\]: hehe, now w is forced to do something on the bottom I think
iouzip [4k\]: B gets C8?
VABAGUNDO: what now
Nemu91 [5k\]: we want blood =)
VABAGUNDO: J4?
iouzip [4k\]: W K4
iouzip [4k\]: lol
MrZNF [5k\]: w could still pincer
iouzip [4k\]: cuz theres a big dot on it
Aldor [2d\]: aji with B13 no?
martin3141 [3k\]: if w plays c8 now, the bottom will get very big for b
MrSparkle [14k\]: L3 or C10 !
]
;W[fm]WL[737.663]C[iouzip [4k\]: wow
jjermann [2d?\]: wow
VABAGUNDO: wow
iouzip [4k\]: intense
easycow [1k\]: wow
conj: wow
Nemu91 [5k\]: world of warcraft
plok: hmm
dM01 [8k\]: wohow
Aldor [2d\]: b C8?
piku [3k\]: wow
jjermann [2d?\]: w tries to play consistent with E13
MrZNF [5k\]: this isn't that strange :s
MrSparkle [14k\]: well w can still play around the 2 points I said next turn
MrZNF [5k\]: good shape
iouzip [4k\]: C9 looks like a better extension?
HoangVu [-\]: flat
iouzip [4k\]: B k4?
thekaiser [1k\]: there will be a figght in the lower side soon ^^
Korea4K [2d\]: 4corner vs middle
Nemu91 [5k\]: i love this game =)
gosta [4k\]: if d13 were w's I would understand f7
oonicks [?\]: puts b ahead, but mayb its obligatory
easycow [1k\]: yes, d13 w with ponnuki there :)
Aldor [2d\]: looks hard for w, b has lots of points 
jjermann [2d?\]: I would immediately play K4, but these guys play on a higher level than me ^^
thekaiser [1k\]: adn now....h11
thekaiser [1k\]: xD
iouzip [4k\]: W wants somethign around D10?
Javaness [-\]: F7 seems a bit wrong
Nemu91 [5k\]: why??
Javaness [-\]: what is it doing?
iouzip [4k\]: F7 sets up attack around K4 and makes W D10 better?
loveHER [6d\]: goooooooo artem~~~~~~~~
]
;B[hn]BL[381.6]C[billbell [1d\]: no profit
MrZNF [5k\]: preventing from black to get an even bigger moyo
easycow [1k\]: h6 means thx for the game
VABAGUNDO: vvovv
Nemu91 [5k\]: loveger plays and kibbitz =)
oonicks [?\]: i don't know
plok: b14
guest1507: h6 provocative
VABAGUNDO: b is teaching w how to play
Nemu91 [5k\]: loveher*
oonicks [?\]: i think in that shape if u have some influence you should anyhow play it
GoatCheese [2k\]: is h8 or d11 good here
bartosh91 [5k\]: black's creating big moyo
GoatCheese [2k\]: and if so which is better
Nemu91 [5k\]: mirror =)
LIshikawa [5k\]: must invade now i guess?
rats [1d?\]: b really clever.. now it looks like whites exchange of l15 for n17 is silly ;)
bartosh91 [5k\]: b- 3 corners
Korea4K [2d\]: K5
easycow [1k\]: h7 better than h8 i'c say
VABAGUNDO: invade where
solowolfs [6k\]: too slow...
easycow [1k\]: I'd
Javaness [-\]: if he was going to invade why play F7
solowolfs [6k\]: not y type
]
;W[ko]WL[642.182]C[martin3141 [3k\]: l6?
Javaness [-\]: illogical to invade now
jjermann [2d?\]: L7?
Longshi [-\]: I hate to say that, but I'm not betting on artem
LIshikawa [5k\]: but its getting too big
thekaiser [1k\]: sai's move xD
martin3141 [3k\]: oh, l5 ^^
iouzip [4k\]: L for light
iouzip [4k\]: lol
Nemu91 [5k\]: =)
kevinwm [3k\]: How significant is c15? does it make c18 work for w?
Levvo [13k\]: Mhh, battle >=D
VABAGUNDO: L3
lithograph [4k\]: most illogical
Aldor [2d\]: F7 H6 exhange very bad for w
oonicks [?\]: nice move
solowolfs [6k\]: oh.. tooo slowwwww
Feanor [1k\]: let there be light
Javaness [-\]: C15 shape tesuji to connect
solowolfs [6k\]: slow..slow..
Feanor [1k\]: said god... and chuck norris replied: say "please"!
solowolfs [6k\]: speed up! now!
Fredrik [-\]: white d12 is huge 
oonicks [?\]: only move maybe
VABAGUNDO: 10c
jjermann [2d?\]: Fredrik: can b play L7 here?
solowolfs [6k\]: Speed up!  slow wolf
VABAGUNDO: flow wols
Raph95 [21k\]: Someone will lose on time, I'm sure.
illusion53 [1d\]: not so often someone uses more time than artem
solowolfs [6k\]: this wolf is too slow.. i will eat this wolf
Raph95 [21k\]: rofl
XuckNorris: lol
easycow [1k\]: l7 only move here to me. l3 out of question. maybe k7
martin3141 [3k\]: this wolf plays grea
martin3141 [3k\]: t
]
;B[km]BL[242.936]C[Raph95 [21k\]: u got it right
VABAGUNDO: bbw is the alpha wolf, you are under him in the chain
baseless [-\]: just proves to be a good game when someone uses their time in 'slow' games. Not like this is really slow
]
;W[kq]WL[617.734]C[MilanChe [-\]: blow him away artem!
]
;B[iq]BL[232.811]C[Raph95 [21k\]: rofl
Laza [-\]: go milanche
Laza [-\]: ro raph
]
;W[ip]WL[604.783]C[Laza [-\]: *go
solowolfs [6k\]: i not live this wolfs style
nogonow [3k\]: fight 
Raph95 [21k\]: I'm cheering for wolf. XD
xevad [2k\]: still don't understand why artem92 is 7d
VABAGUNDO: me too
Korea4K [2d\]: b cant capture
Feanor [1k\]: because he's strong, xevad
kevinwm [3k\]: Javaness - I think c15 is a late-midgame play, b can still connect but loses d18
iouzip [4k\]: B is a bmf
XuckNorris: artem has a house of bricks
xevad [2k\]: no I mean why he is not 8d
VABAGUNDO: hi Javaness
xevad [2k\]: instead
napoleone [8k\]: bbw black?
HoangVu [-\]: not strong enough
plok: xD
jjermann [2d?\]: this move?
easycow [1k\]: artem is on his way to 8d
xevad [2k\]: maybe he is not overplaying enough
GoatCheese [2k\]: b should probably play on the left side now
GoatCheese [2k\]: maybe tenuki this
HoangVu [-\]: aren't we all
illusion53 [1d\]: no way
easycow [1k\]: hehe goatcheese
oonicks [?\]: artem 1 d a year
Raph95 [21k\]: b is  S L O W
jjermann [2d?\]: GoatCheese: lol, w cant tenuki here
GoatCheese [2k\]: its not w move
]
;B[jq]BL[122.123]C[DasWiesel [?\]: [10p\]: artem is doing fine :)
GoatCheese [2k\]: so i agree
jjermann [2d?\]: ah w of course also not
illusion53 [1d\]: neither can tenuki
jjermann [2d?\]: because J4 was a contact play
Feanor [1k\]: lame 10p :)
]
;W[jp]WL[587.31]
;B[kr]BL[119.349]C[XuckNorris: b is slow beacuse b is big, he cant move fast
jjermann [2d?\]: this does not look good for w
kevinwm [3k\]: |:p
Korea4K [2d\]: H3
martin3141 [3k\]: k7 
thekaiser [1k\]: k7
kevinwm [3k\]: i6. Move into the imaginary plane
zekses [2k\]: b13 b12 c12 d12 c11 b14 e11?
jjermann [2d?\]: Korea4K: but the M3 atari would be too painfull?
olyv [7k\]: w wants to connect with r7 group?
Korea4K [2d\]: H3 can cut
Feanor [1k\]: 3d go is too hard, kevinwm :)
oonicks [?\]: perhaps better to avoid the bottom first and fight for the miai between connecting q9 or p9
kevinwm [3k\]: Too many liberties too
VABAGUNDO: W heart is pulsing
kevinwm [3k\]: Try 3-d go with planes instead of points.
napoleone [8k\]: if it wasn't, w would die
]
;W[hp]WL[484.396]C[kevinwm [3k\]: g2
kevinwm [3k\]: g3
XuckNorris: g4
xio [9k\]: must be 4d to play with planes )
semara [10k\]: artem rah rah
tromp [-\]: heavy
Hagalaz [4k\]: 3d go with lines
kevinwm [3k\]: Nah. And lines don't work in 3d
Hagalaz [4k\]: soudns complicated ;)
MrZNF [5k\]: it was heavt anyway
kevinwm [3k\]: too many liberties
VABAGUNDO: artem is out!
kevinwm [3k\]: nature of game changes somewhat
olyv [7k\]: or maybe w wants to cut in g6?
VABAGUNDO: i read artem is alright
kevinwm [3k\]: Really? When did he get out?
MrZNF [5k\]: never
MrZNF [5k\]: he was never in
VABAGUNDO: he didnt yet, i just predicted
napoleone [8k\]: w can break through b's oogeima?
]
;B[gr]BL[38.12]C[jjermann [2d?\]: VABAGUNDO: it is not so easy, it very much depends "how" w is "allright"
VABAGUNDO: i read it all, w is out
easycow [1k\]: yeah break through oooooogeima :)
jjermann [2d?\]: you didn't read enough then
napoleone [8k\]: oogeima is correct
oonicks [?\]: its ok but it goes wrong the momeny b plays n6 m5 etc
k43r [3k\]: it's like breakthrough to shodan
]
;W[no]WL[441.978]C[kevinwm [3k\]: m2 now?
VABAGUNDO: o5 just like i had read
easycow [1k\]: shoooodan
mastertuxx [4d\]: ?
n5: n5
kevinwm [3k\]: q6
mastertuxx [4d\]: mastertuxxx
easycow [1k\]: dont mind me i just like to sing
XuckNorris: vabagundo whats the next move?
]
;B[lq]BL[286.303]OB[9]C[VABAGUNDO: m3
XuckNorris: lol
VABAGUNDO: oh just like i thought
]
;W[kp]WL[432.99]C[jjermann [2d?\]: m3 is already occupied
napoleone [8k\]: shodan is shodan :p
n5: n5
Feanor [1k\]: tautological cat is tautological
easycow [1k\]: napooleone :)
martin3141 [3k\]: it seems like the k3-k4 exchange weakened blacks outside
]
;B[hq]BL[244.435]OB[8]C[Aldor [2d\]: g4 f4 h2 h3 g3 j2 f2 looks good no?
jjermann [2d?\]: at the moment it is still w who is in trouble
VABAGUNDO: lol
Aldor [2d\]: doesn't work anymore :(
VABAGUNDO: troublem?
MrZNF [5k\]: w in trouble?
HoangVu [-\]: somehow, you guys never consider that that probably play the wrong move over and over *chuckle* and that guessing that is just guessing which wrong move they'll make
thekaiser [1k\]: w's safe
MrZNF [5k\]: how is w in trouble
jjermann [2d?\]: HoangVu: :-)
VABAGUNDO: w is thiiis much in trouble
tromp [-\]: why h3?
GoatCheese [2k\]: its you against the world hoangvu
HoangVu [-\]: yep
HoangVu [-\]: and I'm winning
Feanor [1k\]: lol
]
;W[jm]WL[366.354]C[VABAGUNDO: the next move is k7
]
;B[gm]BL[241.48]OB[7]C[jjermann [2d?\]: HoangVu is strong at kibitz
]
;W[fn]WL[353.013]C[Javaness [-\]: white doesn't exactly have much territory
martin3141 [3k\]: w will definitely end in gote, and then b can play sonething like c8
easycow [1k\]: its like playing blitz: if u repeat the worng shapes over and over again u become an expert in doing so
carrotcake [1k\]: of course he is... he has the [-\]
sucker: a minus
carrotcake [1k\]: [-\] is like 9d kibitz
xio [9k\]: w feels lucky
MrZNF [5k\]: w feels awesom
jjermann [2d?\]: at the moment I dont like b's shape
XuckNorris: i think w or b will win
Cookies [3k\]: you felt w? o.o
easycow [1k\]: g6 now and w position crumbles :)
carrotcake [1k\]: b h3 seemed strange after g2
jjermann [2d?\]: but bbw is a very dangerous opponent
rats [1d?\]: what do you expect from g7 though ;)
VABAGUNDO: there was someone that said w was in trouble
mof [2d?\]: love how white's game has evolved
mof [2d?\]: compared to say a year ago
carbon729 [3d\]: w has no territory
xio [9k\]: w not exactly out yet...
oonicks [?\]: k8 mayb
carbon729 [3d\]: that's the trouble
mof [2d?\]: territory, is that all you can think of?
jjermann [2d?\]: w is still in trouble
easycow [1k\]: g4 here maybe
Aldor [2d\]: w in trouble yes
GoatCheese [2k\]: i agree with carbon.
jjermann [2d?\]: but b's shape is not good
Aldor [2d\]: he is out of points
Levvo [13k\]: You're getting to old mof ;D ;D 
GoatCheese [2k\]: although w certainly has tons of potential
mof [2d?\]: haha :-D ååh levvo, är du fortfarande fixerad vid ålder :-D
oonicks [?\]: not g4
jjermann [2d?\]: is K6 possible?
thekaiser [1k\]: go to suicide g9 -_-
Levvo [13k\]: Bara lite x)
mof [2d?\]: ja, and there are many points in a ton
oonicks [?\]: of w plays g4 b gains influence
chibisai [7k\]: haha mof ålder spelar roll tydligen :D
mof [2d?\]: so w should win - ez
E1chh0rn [1k\]: why not k6 ?
]
;B[fl]BL[53.568]OB[6]C[mof [2d?\]: för levvo kanske :-D
Levvo [13k\]: ^^
oonicks [?\]: k8 is attack on a lrage scale
xio [9k\]: hope b won't lose by time
artemjr: dad is doing a good job
bigbadwolf [9d\]: damn forgot time:P
GoatCheese [2k\]: lol
HoangVu [-\]: white winning on time 
GoatCheese [2k\]: hoangvu is 2 for 2
Feanor [1k\]: blitz now :)
Maroncsan [?\]: lol :)
carbon729 [3d\]: so now w should play fast
GoatCheese [2k\]: keep it up its a kibitz killing spree
carbon729 [3d\]: in order not give b thinking time....
easycow [1k\]: 5 min for 10 stones is ok
martin3141 [3k\]: b has more territory and w more time ...
eskalation [1k\]: well that its not worth anything
eskalation [1k\]: if both play blitz
mof [2d?\]: yeah, just toss ' em out there
kimlongVN [3k?\]: j9
easycow [1k\]: next moves only a problem for b
gacua [1d\]: artem92 is very handsome, that's avatar can be a trick :D
bartosh91 [5k\]: bbw plays very slowly
artemjr: lol
kimlongVN [3k?\]: mybe open center
rats [1d?\]: did w just add time for b?
Levvo [13k\]: eww
artemjr: dad is ugly
Feanor [1k\]: no
easycow [1k\]: nono w didnt addtime so far
easycow [1k\]: would be strange for a tournament
Feanor [1k\]: I don't think he will
xio [9k\]: this is tournament, how can w add time?
]
;W[dk]WL[205.628]C[rats [1d?\]: i swear it was 50 seconds for black  a second ago..
Feanor [1k\]: yea, it's tournament
]
;B[jn]BL[46.506]OB[5]C[miksu [7k\]: artem looks like john c reilly
rats [1d?\]: there..
napoleone [8k\]: this is a tournament?
NeoIGO [3k\]: what tournament?
easycow [1k\]: if he adds he can only add1 or 5 min
E1chh0rn [1k\]: the long awaited k6
]
;W[im]WL[186.648]C[bigbadwolf [9d\]: thanks
rats [1d?\]: see? time is going bonkers
carbon729 [3d\]: not add one min.
gacua [1d\]: my question is: why does artem play so fast against bbw?
]
;B[in]BL[99.271]OB[4]C[maxp73 [-\]: yes, w has added time
easycow [1k\]: oh, now he added
artem92 [7d\]: welcome :)
mof [2d?\]: a j7 - som ett spett i länsman
easycow [1k\]: 1min
gacua [1d\]: artem is just kgs 7d, while bbw is 9d
Feanor [1k\]: oh, he did
]
;W[kn]WL[173.271]C[Feanor [1k\]: "just" 7d... :)
]
;B[kl]BL[80.296]OB[3]C[carrotcake [1k\]: <--- def. wouldn't be givin' no time to a 9d
mof [2d?\]: <artem> l6 is so subtle he'll never get it
gacua [1d\]: *currently
]
;W[ik]WL[160.011]C[Javaness [-\]: wedge
]
;B[jk]BL[70.573]OB[2]
;W[il]WL[145.182]
;B[ij]BL[54.322]OB[1]C[gacua [1d\]: white g5 may be painful for black
Mikki62 [3k\]: artem wants to learn something .... not just win on time...
mof [2d?\]: ööh, where's the wedge java?
]
;W[gk]WL[138.678]
;B[go]BL[300]OB[10]C[Javaness [-\]: I was thinking black J8
bartosh91 [5k\]: e8 
kevinwm [3k\]: Trade?
gacua [1d\]: I don't think artem is playing really seriously
kevinwm [3k\]: g6 then f8?
Feanor [1k\]: g8 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Euro!!!!!
plok: what is the web site with players already ?
Feanor [1k\]: and then kill l7 :)
dantesxx [?\]: Harder to do so on KGS, gacua
dantesxx [?\]: Go Artem!
Levvo [13k\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/TransAtlanticYouth/
GoatCheese [2k\]: maybe k10 here
plok: thx
GoatCheese [2k\]: tengen looks cool
Kluck [8k\]: kluck!!!!!!!!!
kevinwm [3k\]: Or w o6 now?
billbell [1d\]: white now sealed in
easycow [1k\]: tengen always looks cool. It has this appealing dot :)
Sponge7 [-\]: wow
fgdxf: b killed w's influence
GandalfTW [2k\]: w connected to the right
jjermann [2d?\]: really?
]
;W[lp]WL[49.259]C[jjermann [2d?\]: how ?
GoatCheese [2k\]: heh yea thats true
litchy [2k\]: looks an easy game for black
plok: this way
jjermann [2d?\]: w is not connected yet
jjermann [2d?\]: still needs a move
]
;B[mq]BL[278.452]OB[9]C[mof [2d?\]: nah j8 would have been crude
carbon729 [3d\]: m4??
GandalfTW [2k\]: p6
monk316 [2k\]: can anyone tell me how strong is Black compared to pros
plok: well... there are "connection" and "connection"...
E1chh0rn [1k\]: w needs more than 1 move to connect
gacua [1d\]: black was insei
jjermann [2d?\]: in this case it is "connection"?
Feanor [1k\]: about the same level, monk, if you don't mean the top pros
kevinwm [3k\]: p5 now
GandalfTW [2k\]: no, one move p6
plok: black's K9 stones are dead jjermann with your point of view :D
HoangVu [-\]: black is not strong compared to pros ^^ 
Feanor [1k\]: everyone beyond 7d is about the same level
mof [2d?\]: :o black managed to steal time from another universe
plok: still need moves to live :D
maxp73 [-\]: b has pro lvl..
xihetec [16k?\]: we're not comparing him to pros
artemjr: o7
Thmayu [3d\]: b not pro level
kevinwm [3k\]: Better to compare him to cons. When did he get out?
MrZNF [5k\]: P6
jjermann [2d?\]: plok: sente or not sente is important here, so what I'm saying is that w will end in gote
Mikki62 [3k\]: n7?
wornof [1k\]: pro not b level
kevinwm [3k\]: w p6
gacua [1d\]: black had beated some pro, although he is amateur
GandalfTW [2k\]: g8?
cbus [17k\]: Any of them trying to become pro?
GoatCheese [2k\]: n7 looks more active
mof [2d?\]: ja, what with all the huffin' and puffin'
Thmayu [3d\]: that doen't make him pro level
]
;W[lk]WL[241.817]OW[9]C[mof [2d?\]: many pros are small
HoangVu [-\]: it's like comparing a skilled person who dies it for fun and one who needs it to get food on the table
napoleone [8k\]: artem won against breakfast
kevinwm [3k\]: There it is. w going for middle
gacua [1d\]: but, in facts, if you are at pro strength, but you don't enter the pro test, then you won't be considered pro.
mof [2d?\]: creative
Gruzum [5k\]: heh, even i did beat a pro, you know, on a dark alley ....
HoangVu [-\]: there is no comparison
kevinwm [3k\]: Artem ate breakfast?
wornof [1k\]: HoangVu: You seem to be confused. There's nothing to say the skilled person isn't *more* skilled :)
dantesxx [?\]: Artem has dinner
HoangVu [-\]: more skilled doesn't mean he is stronger, neither
GoatCheese [2k\]: i believe his comparison is simply amateur to pro mentality
HoangVu [-\]: yeah
mof [2d?\]: :o, only, maybe the wolf will wolf some of it?
oonicks [?\]: ok u can get that far ahead but probs have to turn backwards first again
Cassis0 [5d\]: strange move.... 
olyv [7k\]: w can kill l8 group?
gosta [4k\]: angle tesuji?
]
;B[ml]BL[173.915]OB[8]C[oonicks [?\]: i mean h4
GoatCheese [2k\]: b should be able to leverage w need to escape
Feanor [1k\]: hoang, I don't think one can become 7d+ by playing "just for fun"
martin3141 [3k\]: b will find a way to live
Cassis0 [5d\]: I hardly get m9
MildPeril [2d\]: how quickly prey becomes predator
Cassis0 [5d\]: except getting more complicated situation
GoatCheese [2k\]: feanor the point is still that one does it for a living
GoatCheese [2k\]: and one does it as a hobby
napoleone [8k\]: Feanor, that's exactly what Kageyama says in his book
napoleone [8k\]: when you start playing for fun you stop improving
n5: o7
]
;W[nn]WL[185.585]OW[8]C[oonicks [?\]: yes it happned
Feanor [1k\]: nah... I always played for fun :p
oonicks [?\]: in some book or so
napoleone [8k\]: same :D
Hagalaz [4k\]: i improve more when i play for fun
]
;B[oj]BL[150.111]OB[7]C[easycow [1k\]: and look where it got you feanor :P
mof [2d?\]: uuh, or you can do some semantic trick on fun
Akagi316 [?\]: b in trouble?
Feanor [1k\]: but at some point, it takes a lot of devotion and study to improve
yuca [9k\]: Can we focus on the game. plz And leave the judgement of who is pro to the pros.
Hagalaz [4k\]: if i focus only on winning i'll never try new things and i don't learn much
gacua [1d\]: I find it meaning when I play for fun
rats [1d?\]: i find improving to be fun.. so i'm stuck in this constant vicious cycle..
Mikki62 [3k\]: p8?
jjermann [2d?\]: P10= shape attack?
carrotcake [1k\]: rats!
oonicks [?\]: the pro move then tho for b
Feanor [1k\]: and, on the other hand, you don't HAVE to be a pro to earn your living from go
oonicks [?\]: tehre
Kanin [-\]: devotion and study is some peoples definition of fun, feanor
GoatCheese [2k\]: well
GoatCheese [2k\]: by definition yes
GoatCheese [2k\]: you do
Feanor [1k\]: yikes, Kanin... kinda anti-social ^^
mof [2d?\]: m9 looks a little lonely now
Feanor [1k\]: then your definition is outdated :)
mof [2d?\]: xD
cocaDJ [5d\]: europe leading 1-0:) 
oonicks [?\]: miao?
GoatCheese [2k\]: the meaning of the world professional in any sense is that it is done for a living
carrotcake [1k\]: there are other senses
yuca [9k\]: P10 I thought was to rescue L8 and pressure W group.   W seems to have enouhg for eye shape?
Feanor [1k\]: ok, Cornel does go for a living
Feanor [1k\]: but he's not pro
]
;W[mj]WL[357.92]OW[7]C[GoatCheese [2k\]: yes he is.
JSher [4k\]: you can be pro without recognition by korean japan or chinese go institute
Feanor [1k\]: in the sense that he never took a pro exam
GoatCheese [2k\]: just not a professionally ranked 
]
;B[nj]BL[128.217]OB[6]C[carrotcake [1k\]: 'professional' in another sense means well-mannered
Feanor [1k\]: ah, but that's entirely different meaning of "pro"
mof [2d?\]: and in another sense, knowing when to quit
gacua [1d\]: I don't think KGS 7d could be considered 'pro strength'
artemjr: go back to dad's game
Akagi316 [?\]: are there "professionals" who don't play go for a living?
xio [9k\]: is there really a meaning like that?
JSher [4k\]: only meaning for pro is that he does it for living..
GoatCheese [2k\]: exactly my feeling jsher
kimlongVN [3k?\]: res
TheFall [4k\]: again this boring pro blah blah:(
tennisball [5d\]: Technical definistion of pro:
Kanin [-\]: JSher, I belive in the go-scene there is another defintition
carrotcake [1k\]: well what about people who teach for a living?
TheFall [4k\]: you are all a bit nerd :P
mof [2d?\]: what about vocation then?
tennisball [5d\]: REgistered as a pro players in an pro organization
yuca [9k\]: can you please defer the pro and no pro discussion elsewhere. 
tennisball [5d\]: play in its sponseored games
neun9auge [2k\]: this game seems boring you
HoangVu [-\]: lots of people teach, but they can survive without the money
JSher [4k\]: Kanin, true :)
tennisball [5d\]: has right and benifits
artemjr: game
artemjr: game
]
;W[mh]WL[260.966]OW[6]C[artemjr: mind in the game
]
;B[nm]BL[121.052]OB[5]C[SE [-\]: The common definition of professional is wether one does it for financial reasons or not.
gacua [1d\]: b response very quick
Feanor [1k\]: hm
]
;W[om]WL[242.911]OW[5]C[Mikki62 [3k\]: euro should broadcast the two players sitting on there desks at home.....
yuca [9k\]: O that was nice ly connected.
]
;B[mn]BL[111.188]OB[4]C[Feanor [1k\]: lol
Akira2000 [1d\]: I didn't know Score Est. is also a dictinonary :P
tennisball [5d\]: Most go teachers teach go for a living
tennisball [5d\]: but they are not considered as "professional" per se
carrotcake [1k\]: so that makes them pro, but not pro
Easytude [9k\]: 649 obs :)
SE [-\]: Which would in fact make them professionals, yes.
antipanda [8k\]: they are pro teachers not pro players
]
;W[mo]WL[194.5]OW[4]C[carrotcake [1k\]: professionals of a sort
Kanin [-\]: SE, what's the common definition of a ladder again?
Maroncsan [?\]: cut the pro topic already -.-
RenjuGamer [3k\]: professional teachers, not players :p
Feanor [1k\]: pro players are teachers as well
neun9auge [2k\]: i like to hear more about pros
monk316 [2k\]: umm...let's try a hypothetical question. how many stones would BBW need to beat lee chang ho
Thmayu [3d\]: the word proffesional implicates a high level of skill
TheFall [4k\]: stop pls, lets switch to the next discussion => the boring boring hikaru
bartosh91 [5k\]: who do you think looks better now?
henkdetank [1k\]: then find a chatroom
bartosh91 [5k\]: black?
gacua [1d\]: truly, what will, or where will black play after n5?
tennisball [5d\]: artem improved 3 stones since 2007
Maroncsan [?\]: me too but not in a game
napoleone [8k\]: ladder: a piece of equipment used for climbing up and down, which consists of two vertical bars or lengths of rope joined to each other by a set of horizontal steps
n5: p12
Sugosu [11k\]: p8?
Akira2000 [1d\]: ohh
]
;B[mk]BL[44.16]OB[3]C[xevad [2k\]: xevad improved 0 stones since 2007
Kanin [-\]: napoleone, thanks
]
;W[lj]WL[185.966]OW[3]
;B[nh]BL[38.112]OB[2]C[Gruzum [6k\]: pro = player that took the pro exam proving that he can be a top player constantly for several years
henkdetank [1k\]: b doesnt look so good
GoatCheese [2k\]: probably the worst definition so far gruzum
henkdetank [1k\]: r14\\
yuca [9k\]: White didn't get any out of that lower Right quandrant. :/
Gruzum [6k\]: i can live (hardly) from teaching go and it doesn't make me a pro
mof [2d?\]: w still has a cut but it is not very large
Mikki62 [3k\]: d2?
GoatCheese [2k\]: i dont think you could love
GoatCheese [2k\]: live
nouziller [1d?\]: b very efficient
artemjr: w will k10 soon
GoatCheese [2k\]: haha of course you could love
neun9auge [2k\]: thera are 2 cuts where w will get nice territory
]
;W[mg]WL[140.766]OW[2]C[gacua [1d\]: g8 g6 ?
easycow [1k\]: go players cant love
GoatCheese [2k\]: haha
xevad [2k\]: I am a professional Avionic Electronic Technician only because it is my title and I get paid for it, I could know nothing about it and still be pro
]
;B[ol]BL[25.769]OB[1]C[GoatCheese [2k\]: i just started another discussion
Feanor [1k\]: I can :p
Thmayu [3d\]: w needs territory fasr
GoatCheese [2k\]: with a simple type
GoatCheese [2k\]: typo
easycow [1k\]: only kyus can
GoatCheese [2k\]: true
Nael: k10 is enought to W
Cassis0 [5d\]: not sente
jjermann [2d?\]: w as a whole is not totally alive yet
yuca [9k\]: eeek... 
xevad [2k\]: but anyways back to the game
yuca [9k\]: not enougth space?
jjermann [2d?\]: Cassis0: are you sure?
mof [2d?\]: the best thing is that his game has improved aesthetically
GandalfTW [2k\]: w can ignore?
Feanor [1k\]: I'm 9d in my country :p
]
;W[pi]WL[100.128]OW[1]C[Mikki62 [3k\]: w dieing?
SE [-\]: aye, interesting game.
Feanor [1k\]: and still can love :P
mof [2d?\]: it is a lot more pleasing to watch
Akagi316 [?\]: w is fine
mof [2d?\]: and fun
gacua [1d\]: black has concrete territory, whilte white has potential
Cassis0 [5d\]: yes jjerman
xevad [2k\]: lets count the score
]
;B[ng]BL[300]OB[10]
;W[ph]WL[300]OW[10]C[neun9auge [2k\]: b14 cuts the corner off
Thorvald [8k\]: b Q7 ?
Akagi316 [?\]: this is good for w
jjermann [2d?\]: Cassis0: but w couldn't have played away I think
xevad [2k\]: white is slightly behind
jjermann [2d?\]: Cassis0: because the whole w group was not alive yet, but like this he is alive in sente in any case
HoangVu [-\]: professional - engaged in a profession or engaging in as a profession or means of livelihood; "the professional man or woman possesses distinctive qualifications ...
GoatCheese [2k\]: zing
martin3141 [3k\]: b14 cuts off nothing
just4ubabe [10k\]: doesn't seem like white is going to waste any of his moves
just4ubabe [10k\]: this is going to be very tough on black
]
;B[pf]BL[228.986]OB[9]C[carrotcake [1k\]: b play very professional
Akira2000 [1d\]: really
Akira2000 [1d\]: I thought 9d plays like noob
neun9auge [2k\]: u   should copy something from wikipedia
easycow [1k\]: that was 1d Akira :P
Levvo [13k\]: Still  wont q7 be kinda harsh on white? 
]
;W[nf]WL[253.089]OW[9]C[gacua [1d\]: q7 q6 
Levvo [13k\]: maybe not
HoangVu [-\]: Akira, you are very close to "hand of god" then, *chuckle*
Levvo [13k\]: yea, noticed x)
Akira2000 [1d\]: must be LOl
]
;B[mf]BL[210.178]OB[8]C[Akira2000 [1d\]: jk
Thmayu [3d\]: whte really needs k10 cu but he eye space aswell
yuca [9k\]: ouch
easycow [1k\]: q7 q6 p6 p5 does do nothing
JSher [4k\]: not sure if there are any active players in KGS who can beat BBW
Akira2000 [1d\]: I was jk carrotcake
Feanor [1k\]: carrotcake is a joke
gacua [1d\]: something will have to die 
E1chh0rn [1k\]: aggresive had won against bbw
litchy [2k\]: oysy too
jjermann [2d?\]: b has 4 big corners
MrSparkle [14k\]: wow
jjermann [2d?\]: 3 big corners sorry
choboco [2k\]: b got 5 corners
MrSparkle [14k\]: whats dead what is not
Kanin [-\]: three little pigs aswell
TheFall [4k\]: c17 not that big^
yuca [9k\]: ??  jjermann?  3 corner no?   
GoatCheese [2k\]: b has 2 big corners
GoatCheese [2k\]: the top right is quite small
jjermann [2d?\]: top left looks big as well
jjermann [2d?\]: lol?
GoatCheese [2k\]: err top left
TheFall [4k\]: not if w wants to keep ot small^
artemjr: c3 is possible for b no?
GoatCheese [2k\]: yes top right of course is big
jjermann [2d?\]: it is big because b is not enclosed
martin3141 [3k\]: down left corner is open too
Feanor [1k\]: yes
neun9auge [2k\]: w b14
piku [3k\]: there are 2 cutting points at g8 and k10 and w doesn't look interested
]
;W[qf]WL[110.179]OW[8]C[rats [1d?\]: b would lose the game if he played c3 ;) 
]
;B[pg]BL[196.959]OB[7]C[artemjr: yeah
carrotcake [1k\]: rats!
yuca [9k\]: B lives.
easycow [1k\]: g8 g6 miai for cut
Ryoji [2k\]: hey, goatcheese, who will win that tournament? america or good old europe?
GoatCheese [2k\]: ohh
mike2096 [3k\]: o11 
artemjr: no time for c3 now
Feanor [1k\]: I hope europe :p
ziman [3k\]: or good old america
GoatCheese [2k\]: haha well....i think its obvious that america is superior
Thmayu [3d\]: i hope europe aswlel
sucker: "old" america?
TheFall [4k\]: top left i acount 10 points only lol
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: artem gainas a lot
Feanor [1k\]: haha, old america... ^_
ziman [3k\]: i hope both win
NeoIGO [3k\]: go europe
yuca [9k\]: c3 still possible
]
;W[qg]WL[56.253]OW[7]C[ziman [3k\]: ancient america
napoleone [8k\]: bbw is american?
]
;B[qe]BL[192.84]OB[6]C[IGoofy [1d\]: since when does isreal belong to europe ?
Kluck [8k\]: east america
]
;W[rh]WL[51.593]OW[6]C[GoatCheese [2k\]: if we could pwn europe at everything that would be ideal.
yuca [9k\]: sente!
GoatCheese [2k\]: too bad we suck at soccer
]
;B[lf]BL[184.617]OB[5]C[TheFall [4k\]: always IGoofy
yuca [9k\]: tenuki.
Kanin [-\]: white bad on time :(
]
;W[re]WL[45.766]OW[5]C[JSher [4k\]: if we cut out asians from team north america situation would be whole different :)
Ryoji [2k\]: igoofy failed
ziman [3k\]: america is on the downhill, unfortunately
Kluck [8k\]: we suck at soccer because we call the game by the wrong name
Feanor [1k\]: lol
Thorvald [8k\]: b works nicelly
GoatCheese [2k\]: america is the hill
Feanor [1k\]: JSer, who would play for america then? :)
elfking [5k\]: time ??
]
;B[rd]BL[158.352]OB[4]C[GoatCheese [2k\]: fortunately
carrotcake [1k\]: ziman: better root for us 'cause if we go down we're taking everyone with us!
]
;W[jj]WL[36.672]OW[4]C[yuca [9k\]: L12?
gacua [1d\]: finally cut
MildPeril [2d\]: k10 looking bigger... nm
Kanin [-\]: yeah, why would you call a game where you throw and cach a ball with your hands football anyway?
ziman [3k\]: ill move to my own island
carrotcake [1k\]: yeah we'll nuke it tho
ziman [3k\]: americans have their queer ways
oonicks [?\]: b possibly thinks he i sbehind anyway
dima [2d\]: might as well cut russians from europe team --- at least half of rusiia is in asia? (OK, only cut half of them then )
JSher [4k\]: Feanor.. some weaker players..
ziman [3k\]: ill live on the moon then
]
;B[ji]BL[131.454]OB[3]C[toofou [6k?\]: P13
]
;W[kj]WL[31.853]OW[3]C[carrotcake [1k\]: man you are naive... we're already testing moon nukes
ziman [3k\]: mars then
Feanor [1k\]: nah, dima, russia is europe enough
carrotcake [1k\]: where do u think we tested em?
sucker: ehm, for american team, the guys most seem to be asian..
illusion53 [1d\]: russia is politically european
Feanor [1k\]: most of the big cities are in europe at least
ziman [3k\]: do you like fish sticks?
gacua [1d\]: b can resign, I guess
DonValley [5d?\]: yeah
ziman [3k\]: youre a gay fish.
DonValley [5d?\]: i know this one
DonValley [5d?\]: lol
Kanin [-\]: I'm not a gay fish!!
dumbling1 [3d\]: h10
ziman [3k\]: that was a lovely episode
Kanin [-\]: why do you keep calling me that?!
GoatCheese [2k\]: kanin to answer your question why american football is called football
GoatCheese [2k\]: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_American_football_called_%27football%27
lithograph [4k\]: if they were white, they would seem to be european...
]
;B[lg]BL[45.947]OB[2]C[monk316 [2k\]: isn't B going to get h9 or k10?
]
;W[ii]WL[24.409]OW[2]C[HoangVu [-\]: in american football they also kick the ball
mof [2d?\]: occasionally
]
;B[co]BL[20.224]OB[1]
;W[do]WL[17.948]OW[1]C[Suicide [-\]: ziman, the question did not involve fish sticks
GoatCheese [2k\]: indeed. the general idea is that it is a derivative of soccer
Feanor [1k\]: goat, the real answer is "because americans wanted to be good at football, but they sucked at it" :P
Kanin [-\]: @ hoangvu: "ome might say, simply, "because they kick the football."  But the real story is deeper."
Sven84 [7k\]: j12 before m13 better no?
yuca [9k\]: here comes ko 
]
;B[rf]BL[300]OB[10]C[Kluck [8k\]: not the same hoang.....they only kick special "k" balls now
]
;W[rg]WL[300]OW[10]C[Mikki62 [3k\]: now b winning?
HoangVu [-\]: really?
]
;B[cp]BL[291.292]OB[9]C[HoangVu [-\]: didn't know
yuca [9k\]: not yet
Pequeninos [5d\]: who won the other 4 games?
spherical [5k\]: christ, first "what is pro?", then race questions, now football. kibitz is reaching new all-time low
]
;W[cn]WL[286.574]OW[9]C[mike2096 [3k\]: black is the USA player here riht?
carrotcake [1k\]: y
]
;B[dq]BL[283.976]OB[8]C[gacua [1d\]: is c4 a mistake?
TheFall [4k\]: you forgot about kibutz
oonicks [?\]: brr
ikami [3d\]: d3 should be at d2 
]
;W[lh]WL[259.415]OW[8]C[ziman [3k\]: spherical, the subject now is about fish sticks.
easycow [1k\]: now 4 corners
ziman [3k\]: lets stay on topic. why did kanye west not get the joke?
Pequeninos [5d\]: b can't d2
litchy [2k\]: can we see the results somewhere?
DonValley [5d?\]: kanye west is cadillacs picture
bier [2k\]: because he´s a gay fish xD
ziman [3k\]: he is a genius.
gacua [1d\]: time for d11?
LeFourBe [4d\]: need to protect P12
Mikki62 [3k\]: threat of w o11 cut?
]
;B[ld]BL[200.191]OB[7]C[LeFourBe [4d\]: yes
merengue [3d\]: c3?
LeFourBe [4d\]: O11 for white.. ?
jjermann [2d?\]: b has 4 big corners
Maroncsan [?\]: cut? 
]
;W[ni]WL[232.753]OW[7]C[gacua [1d\]: now white c3?
LeFourBe [4d\]: B13 is big too
]
;B[oi]BL[182.022]OB[6]C[TheFall [4k\]: c17 is 10 points
merengue [3d\]: c3 or b6 or b13
jjermann [2d?\]: B13 for w?
Thmayu [3d\]: p12
m111: p12 
yuca [9k\]: mis read?
LeFourBe [4d\]: O11 really work ?
yuca [9k\]: no
LeFourBe [4d\]: seem complicate
HoangVu [-\]: white wants to p 12
Thmayu [3d\]: p12 winning move imho
gofan1234 [8k\]: 014 dead
LeFourBe [4d\]: aji with H10
yuca [9k\]: P12 N11.  Bye bye N12
Maroncsan [?\]: yay :)
Feanor [1k\]: p12 n11 p13 o11 p14 m11 l12 
xxxstar [8d\]: can't win without it.. then do it.
henkdetank [1k\]: looks like it will work
Lakotnik [6k\]: so ddw isn't an old geezer :)
Lakotnik [6k\]: *bbw
jer [5d\]: humm
jjermann [2d?\]: is H10 sente for b?
]
;W[oh]WL[115.235]OW[6]
;B[mi]BL[179.061]OB[5]C[LeFourBe [4d\]: go ! :)
m111: p13 
lkjo [1k\]: cut
]
;W[og]WL[96.103]OW[5]
;B[ni]BL[176.402]OB[4]C[m111: p14 
]
;W[of]WL[88.084]OW[4]C[GoatCheese [2k\]: w will sacrifice n12 i believei
gacua [1d\]: exchange
jjermann [2d?\]: H10 now
Mjolner [3k\]: dont think n12 dies?
gacua [1d\]: m11 is a must
LeFourBe [4d\]: H10 and game over ?
Mjolner [3k\]: seems W has enough stones to prevent geta
jer [5d\]: doesn't work
]
;B[li]BL[145.678]OB[3]C[henkdetank [1k\]: sacrifice n12 not nescesarry
Nael: no
martin3141 [3k\]: bbw counting :)
Nael: look
GoatCheese [2k\]: w is it not necessary
gacua [1d\]: l11 l12 k12 
jjermann [2d?\]: it seems to work
jer [5d\]: this atari?
jjermann [2d?\]: hmm
Nael: l9
HoangVu [-\]: black have l9
HoangVu [-\]: white*
sucker: h10
m111: l12 
xxxstar [8d\]: b will hard to H 10.
GoatCheese [2k\]: how can you keep n12 alive
GoatCheese [2k\]: and l10 alive
Mjolner [3k\]: l12
toofou [6k?\]: answer to K10 was P13 to end the debat ^^
]
;W[kh]WL[50.537]OW[3]C[kimlongVN [3k?\]: res
Mjolner [3k\]: l12 l11 h10 
jer [5d\]: l12 looked fine
WapiFlapi [6k\]: 689 people watching o_O
Aldor [2d\]: H10 now
Feanor [1k\]: humm
Nael: no problem for W
]
;B[hj]BL[135.737]OB[2]C[Feanor [1k\]: my sequence
yuca [9k\]: no
KoReNJe [3d\]: what the 
CiaoBella [1d\]: GENRE SWISWI TU MATE PLUS MA PARTIE !!!!
illusion53 [1d\]: w either gets n12 or j8
]
;W[hk]WL[43.461]OW[2]C[Feanor [1k\]: there must be something wrong here...
kingbong [2k\]: :)
TheFall [4k\]: i see a problem for q
CiaoBella [1d\]: ENFOIRE !!!!
TheFall [4k\]: w
CiaoBella [1d\]: ; D
Swilice [2d\]: lool
KoReNJe [3d\]: why is artem playing as white?
DonValley [5d?\]: 698
CiaoBella [1d\]: xD
DonValley [5d?\]: 701
cocaDJ [5d\]: brilliant artem
Laza [-\]: hehe, w won
Thorvald [8k\]: H11
bartosh91 [5k\]: 702
miao [5d\]: g10
rats [1d?\]: ladder works for w
gacua [1d\]: l11 
Mikki62 [3k\]: ladder
Nael: h 11 is nothing
Mikki62 [3k\]: :)
gacua [1d\]: only choice
easycow [1k\]: b13 :)
minismurf [-\]: some problems with this extension for b
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: b alive?
jer [5d\]: atari in l10 was really easy for b
yuca [9k\]: not yet
minismurf [-\]: maybe should have just let w eat one stone
Sponge7 [-\]: it feels like ws getting trashed
Nael: big win for W
gonewb [2k\]: k12 
Cassis0 [5d\]: complicated
Sponge7 [-\]: oh wait...
Sponge7 [-\]: lol
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: m8 alive
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: I think
Maroncsan [?\]: what are u talking bout sponge :)
yuca [9k\]: I think B must live and extend to left otherwise not enough
]
;B[ki]BL[43.173]OB[1]C[gacua [1d\]: L11 is the only choice
]
;W[hi]WL[37.117]OW[1]C[MuhsinBey [1k?\]: after  L 11 of course
rats [1d?\]: b will have to bust up the k line 
]
;B[ih]BL[300]OB[10]C[xxxstar [8d\]: bad aji..
xxxstar [8d\]: i guess somewhere ko will occur
]
;W[hh]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[jh]BL[297.462]OB[9]C[Laza [-\]: lol
]
;W[kg]WL[286.411]OW[9]C[Greyish [1d\]: b will live
Pequeninos [5d\]: b is fine i thinl
Pequeninos [5d\]: think
HoangVu [-\]: h 13
Pequeninos [5d\]: yes
sucker: 8d reading X-D
cocaDJ [5d\]: H12?
gacua [1d\]: now we will see must moves
]
;B[hg]BL[281.299]OB[8]C[jer [5d\]: h13
gonewb [2k\]: woot
Pequeninos [5d\]: b wins this semeai
Cassis0 [5d\]: g13
kingbong [2k\]: nice
Aldor [2d\]: b is ok  i think too
binohito [1d\]: black so good
]
;W[gg]WL[263.169]OW[8]C[gacua [1d\]: using "wins" is such a statement ;)
kingbong [2k\]: 9 dan
KoReNJe [3d\]: poor artem
yuca [9k\]: O mine...
kingbong [2k\]: should be
kingbong [2k\]: :D
GoatCheese [2k\]: shipwreck beat loveher just now
binohito [1d\]: but white amazing too
oziboy [1k\]: p6 is a ko?
binohito [1d\]: i really like artem
beethoven [-\]: i do not
TheFall [4k\]: p6 is nothing
beethoven [-\]: slutch
minismurf [-\]: good game this one, exciting
Cookies [3k\]: p6 p5
TonyTiger [3d\]: very exciting game
Pequeninos [5d\]: k13 
]
;B[jg]BL[234.71]OB[7]
;W[kf]WL[255.226]OW[7]
;B[if]BL[232.19]OB[6]C[jjermann [2d?\]: I think b will win this
TheFall [4k\]: here is ko
tennisball [5d\]: sigh, artem is good
hanniibal [7k\]: c'est pas vivre le problem c'est tuer blanc
nd4ever [3k\]: h15
matroid [5k\]: w is stubborn
tennisball [5d\]: who is this kid's teacher/coach?
tennisball [5d\]: or no1 konws
KoReNJe [3d\]: h15
GoatCheese [2k\]: w looks very unhealthy
jjermann [2d?\]: yes
Pequeninos [5d\]: next rounf of this tournament is in 1:15 right?
Kanin [-\]: if i was playing this game with these kind of time limits i would have a heart attack
Pequeninos [5d\]: round*
liberteen [9k?\]: W needs spinach
jjermann [2d?\]: and b might already be alive if w sacrifice Q5 in gote
jjermann [2d?\]: oeh b sacrifice
merengue [3d\]: l13 was bad no?
lkjo [1k\]: is black alive???
hiss [1k\]: I think b got life
TonyTiger [3d\]: white runs out of time :o
Pequeninos [5d\]: b will live for sure
bartosh91 [5k\]: now europe is losing 1:2
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: h15 I think
]
;W[gf]WL[127.512]OW[6]C[gonewb [2k\]: who won for europe
jer [5d\]: b made wrong atari
martin3141 [3k\]: noone is running out of time -.-
minismurf [-\]: i thought h15 too
binohito [1d\]: g8 for black
bartosh91 [5k\]: vashurov rom russia
HoangVu [-\]: black live
bartosh91 [5k\]: idont know his nick
gacua [1d\]: k14 
]
;B[je]BL[201.52]OB[5]C[Swilice [2d\]: and who lost?
Thorvald [8k\]: G15 ?
]
;W[jd]WL[120.857]OW[5]
;B[jf]BL[196.2]OB[4]
;W[kd]WL[115.33]OW[4]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: haha
Pequeninos [5d\]: eye in sente ^_¨
bartosh91 [5k\]: jack yang
]
;B[he]BL[193.558]OB[3]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: it's an eye
monk316 [2k\]: if this dragon lives, white has nothing
yuca [9k\]: alive...
henkdetank [1k\]: uhuh, very nice
jer [5d\]: ko?
]
;W[id]WL[101.29]OW[3]C[bartosh91 [5k\]: jack is 5 years older than alexandr
Pequeninos [5d\]: p9 and b lives
yuca [9k\]: alive
]
;B[hf]BL[190.96]OB[2]C[jjermann [2d?\]: P9 now?
KoReNJe [3d\]: game over
m111: p9 
JooYibin [6k\]: now its white who will run
Nemu91 [5k\]: VIVA BBW
yuca [9k\]: Wait a sec.
jjermann [2d?\]: hehe even more
yuca [9k\]: P9?
jer [5d\]: g19 ko maybe
GoatCheese [2k\]: what an ugly dumpling
JSher [4k\]: b+ res
xxxstar [8d\]: oh... b playing with fire..
LeFourBe [4d\]: O16 ?
xxxstar [8d\]: o 16.
Gruzum [6k\]: m8/p9 one more eye
Thorvald [8k\]: H or G 118 ?
Pequeninos [5d\]: p9 right now for w
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: p9
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: then m6
jjermann [2d?\]: P9 a must for w?
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: I think
Kanin [-\]: white has to save J16 first
xxxstar [8d\]: o16 is the move..
]
;W[nd]WL[54.832]OW[2]C[tromp [-\]: no time for p9
henkdetank [1k\]: w can resign now
Feanor [1k\]: j16 is too weak for the kill
Feanor [1k\]: sadly
martin3141 [3k\]: it w is to kill, p9
napoleone [8k\]: nemu from haibane renmei?
matroid [5k\]: w better gives up the idea of killing
]
;B[ok]BL[155.923]OB[1]C[jjermann [2d?\]: O16 is nice
Pequeninos [5d\]: =)
tm93 [7k\]: o:o
yuca [9k\]: ?
Nemu91 [5k\]: no
]
;W[nc]WL[46.838]OW[1]
;B[nb]BL[300]OB[10]C[Pequeninos [5d\]: that was a muct
]
;W[ob]WL[300]OW[10]C[Pequeninos [5d\]: must
]
;B[lb]BL[298.607]OB[9]C[EdhelDil [5k\]: m15 
rats [1d?\]: this is painful by b
Lion [1k\]: b won.
liberteen [9k?\]: They can't both of them get out of this fight alive, can they?
]
;W[na]WL[283.802]OW[9]
;B[mb]BL[297.128]OB[8]C[Lion [1k\]: move like b9 or b8..
]
;W[oc]WL[276.417]OW[8]C[Lion [1k\]: and w will resign.
]
;B[jb]BL[295.817]OB[7]C[artemjr: m15?
EdhelDil [5k\]: m15 now
TheFall [4k\]: poor artem
jjermann [2d?\]: m15 is gote
frosty [4k\]: yea m15
LeFourBe [4d\]: painfull for black
Feanor [1k\]: m15 is resign
]
;W[md]WL[255.51]OW[7]C[martin3141 [3k\]: m15 is nothing
]
;B[ib]BL[290.412]OB[6]C[mike2096 [3k\]: white has to m15
mike2096 [3k\]: lol
mike2096 [3k\]: to live
jjermann [2d?\]: not yet
Pequeninos [5d\]: chaotic game
t3hRandom [8k?\]: now
EdhelDil [5k\]: m15 better than n16 to me...
jjermann [2d?\]: bi
Gruzum [6k\]: why did B p9 anyway? wasn't p9/m8 miai for the 2nd eye?
jjermann [2d?\]: no
gacua [1d\]: n16 was better at that time
Lion [1k\]: n16 better,
Pequeninos [5d\]: n16 steals an eye
jjermann [2d?\]: M15 is game over for w earlier on
Hagalaz [4k\]: m15 allows eye
matroid [5k\]: w is still hung up on the idea of "having to" kill something
tinca [-\]: not chaotic, uncompromising :-)
]
;W[sf]WL[204.059]OW[6]C[Thmayu [3d\]: w needs d12 after ths this
]
;B[rb]BL[283.064]OB[5]C[illusion53 [1d\]: last chance
frosty [4k\]: m15 and then ur corner w would win?
tm93 [7k\]: q 15\]
Lion [1k\]: q15 sente
Lion [1k\]: at least..
Cassis0 [5d\]: b is losing so many points
jjermann [2d?\]: m15?
Pequeninos [5d\]: b got points to spare i think
Lion [1k\]: b losing?
xevad [2k\]: black lives everywhere
rats [1d?\]: sure
frosty [4k\]: no, but w did a good anyway
Kanin [-\]: white has to look at how to make points on the left side
]
;W[le]WL[147.537]OW[5]C[Thmayu [3d\]: it's getting closer and closer
Lion [1k\]: yeap,
Lion [1k\]: b9 is pain for w
Feanor [1k\]: no many points there, kanin
Bensai [6k\]: q15 
EdhelDil [5k\]: b5 ?
rehrlich [5k\]: wouldn't b have been better off w m15?
yuca [9k\]: c10?
Kanin [-\]: not if B gets there first :(
toofou [6k?\]: b c10
Pequeninos [5d\]: c3 is quite big too
LeFourBe [4d\]: C11
martin3141 [3k\]: q15 is sente for b too
JSher [4k\]: b14?
Feanor [1k\]: but w had to m15
LikeSand [4k\]: So complecated.
GoatCheese [2k\]: e11 looks interesting as well
meditation [2d\]: d11
Mikki62 [3k\]: m15 sente?
dantesxx [?\]: C'mon Artem, you can do it!
illusion53 [1d\]: needs to live on top?
]
;B[pe]BL[211.244]OB[4]C[Feanor [1k\]: I think not
m111: l19 
frosty [4k\]: w b14 now
Feanor [1k\]: hmm
Kanin [-\]: aaah!? white gets sente?
]
;W[hb]WL[133.819]OW[4]C[Kanin [-\]: might become close
]
;B[ka]BL[206.139]OB[3]C[illusion53 [1d\]: already is close
Thmayu [3d\]: d12 now
Scarsick [3k\]: b14 c15 ..
Scarsick [3k\]: nothing there
Cassis0 [5d\]: c3 then c11
Cassis0 [5d\]: for wµ
]
;W[bh]WL[102.311]OW[3]C[royalty [3d\]: what is there close about black winning?
merengue [3d\]: b12?
]
;B[bg]BL[194.96]OB[2]C[Nemu91 [5k\]: close game no??,
]
;W[ci]WL[98.002]OW[2]C[merengue [3d\]: I thought b13
MrZNF [5k\]: wow
MrZNF [5k\]: awesome move :)
Lion [1k\]: time to moneky jump
t3hRandom [8k?\]: that was nice
GoatCheese [2k\]: e11 now
Lion [1k\]: on the right side
toofou [6k?\]: seems not that close, where is white territory ?
DonValley [5d?\]: now b has to live
]
;B[ce]BL[160.91]OB[1]C[TheFall [4k\]: thats why the cofner isnt big jermann
Stoney [?\]: Is the black group at top (l19) alive?
nd4ever [3k\]: c15
martin3141 [3k\]: b6 is big
gryn [1d?\]: black has fifty white 40 or so
EdhelDil [5k\]: b5 ?
Thmayu [3d\]: b 5 points or less ahead
]
;W[cq]WL[87.927]OW[1]
;B[bq]BL[300]OB[10]
;W[cr]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[br]BL[297.28]OB[9]
;W[bn]WL[292.541]OW[9]
;B[dr]BL[294.02]OB[8]C[Pequeninos [5d\]: w greedy
Javaness [-\]: yose power
gacua [1d\]: d12 is next move
merengue [3d\]: g8?
Scarsick [3k\]: g6 ?
Javaness [-\]: why greedy?
patrickn [9k?\]: g8
illusion53 [1d\]: why w greedy?
nd4ever [3k\]: c16
illusion53 [1d\]: got b6 in snte?
loveHER [6d\]: GOOOOOOOO ARTEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
gacua [1d\]: D12???
xio [9k\]: w +7,5
sucker: w is still 10 pts behind it seems
zazie [-\]: stop the shout :)
dantesxx [?\]: t8
Calis [2k\]: ^^
yuca [9k\]: b+ 6.5?
Nemu91 [5k\]: GOOOOOOOOO BBWWWWWWWWWW
Javaness [-\]: *\\o/* Artem the best *\\o/*
Cassis0 [5d\]: g8
toofou [6k?\]: s6
dantesxx [?\]: Go Artem!
jjermann [2d?\]: H17 for b?
sulusepken [5k\]: you must won the game loveher
zarif [5k\]: Ali you win?
MrZNF [5k\]: Artem, Artem, Artem \\o/
GoatCheese [2k\]: i believe the proper thing to say is AROOOOOO
Scarsick [3k\]: why not g6
]
;W[oa]WL[236.485]OW[8]C[Gotika [4d\]: b+500
m111: GO ARTEM!!!!!!!!!
tm93 [7k\]: w m7?
artemjr: goOoooo DAD
loveHER [6d\]: i lost by 2.5
power20K [7k\]: aawwoooooooooooooo
rats [1d?\]: go captain
xxxstar [8d\]: why g8 when you can g6 ?
WapiFlapi [6k\]: yuka and xio stop SE >.>
]
;B[oo]BL[284.924]OB[7]C[tm93 [7k\]: w m 7
matroid [5k\]: cheerleading doesn't fit well with go
napoleone [8k\]: b+9000
yuca [9k\]: urgent.
Lion [1k\]: danger!!
sdts: b+14
]
;W[on]WL[228.171]OW[7]C[elciego [-\]: It does when you're not in the same room!
Pequeninos [5d\]: b will win
]
;B[hc]BL[275.974]OB[6]C[Lion [1k\]: yeah.
]
;W[gc]WL[220.019]OW[6]C[elciego [-\]: Then they aren't distracted and you can still cheer
]
;B[hd]BL[271.886]OB[5]C[yuca [9k\]: Ouch
]
;W[fb]WL[213.958]OW[5]C[DonValley [5d?\]: b is incredible
LeFourBe [4d\]: p19 not a good idea :x
]
;B[gn]BL[264.019]OB[4]C[Nemu91 [5k\]: yes
GoatCheese [2k\]: e11 is such a sexy beast move
Laza [-\]: n19 ?
m111: can W play r18 ? W r18  B r17  W s19 
]
;W[ra]WL[197.842]OW[4]C[Pequeninos [5d\]: s19
MrZNF [5k\]: N19 Kills :s
merengue [3d\]: whats p19?
TonyTiger [3d\]: ko
Pequeninos [5d\]: lol
TheFall [4k\]: ko
jjermann [2d?\]: biiiiig ko possible
jer [5d\]: wooow
Javaness [-\]: stong
DonValley [5d?\]: uh oh
matroid [5k\]: w is desperate
gacua [1d\]: r17 
Pequeninos [5d\]: this is tesuji
MrZNF [5k\]: why desperate?
jer [5d\]: suji
MrZNF [5k\]: ko ftwe
jer [5d\]: !
TonyTiger [3d\]: it's ko
Lion [1k\]: ko?
]
;B[qc]BL[228.653]OB[3]C[gacua [1d\]: R17 and b lives
ben0 [5d\]: t'avais meme pas pensé a ca jer :
Laza [-\]: two koes
jjermann [2d?\]: but no real ko
Pequeninos [5d\]: i wonder how b could miss this
ben0 [5d\]: :) *
]
;W[qa]WL[190.496]OW[3]C[matroid [5k\]: futile
jjermann [2d?\]: cant play that ko
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: well
martin3141 [3k\]: w plays p6 and b n19, and no ko ;)
loveHER [6d\]: white gains big anyway
tm93 [7k\]: t 7
jer [5d\]: ko
gacua [1d\]: t18
Feanor [1k\]: sente reduction
tm93 [7k\]: t 17 *
uuii: artem very strong!!
elciego [-\]: artem!
Pequeninos [5d\]: it is ko
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: s19 is something i wouldn't have found
LeFourBe [4d\]: nice one :)
jer [5d\]: w can win now
Cassis0 [5d\]: no ko
Nemu91 [5k\]: t18
Diplomat [6d\]: artem GO GO!!!
Javaness [-\]: g8 so big
TonyTiger [3d\]: T18 next
jjermann [2d?\]: Pequeninos: how can w play this ko?
illusion53 [1d\]: wtf
Cassis0 [5d\]: ah yeah
]
;B[sb]BL[196.912]OB[2]C[pwaldron [-\]: wow...700 people watching the game
Pequeninos [5d\]: t16 t17 r18 
Pequeninos [5d\]: ko
m111: t16 
jjermann [2d?\]: Pequeninos: M18 is too small anyway
Scarsick [3k\]: ko yeah
gacua [1d\]: ko
Laza [-\]: b lost !!
artemjr: go go go Dad
yuca [9k\]: nice
Laza [-\]: haha
Erekose [4k\]: T16
Reiter101 [-\]: 740
Laza [-\]: two kos
Nemu91 [5k\]: oh ko =)
jjermann [2d?\]: Pequeninos: and if w loses it is totally game over
profi [2d\]: m17 is ko ?
benuch [3k\]: F8?
jer [5d\]: kill for the win
LeFourBe [4d\]: w got a free ko :x
elciego [-\]: artemjr?  Artem is 16...
Scarsick [3k\]: black cant win 2 ko
]
;W[sd]WL[158.124]OW[2]C[xio [9k\]: looks like twokos
jer [5d\]: but no ko threaths
]
;B[sc]BL[191.414]OB[1]
;W[qb]WL[155.148]OW[1]
;B[se]BL[300]OB[10]C[LeFourBe [4d\]: seem hard for black now
Pequeninos [5d\]: jjermann, doesn't change the fact  it's still ko
elciego [-\]: Maybe this is what ko is like...
Mjolner [3k\]: s19 would be increadable winning move If W wins this KO
elciego [-\]: ;D
]
;W[cd]WL[300]OW[10]C[Feanor [1k\]: c16 ?
]
;B[bd]BL[296.552]OB[9]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: m2
Feanor [1k\]: oh, yea :)
MrZNF [5k\]: G10 = ko threat for black
]
;W[sd]WL[295.031]OW[9]
;B[pb]BL[295.794]OB[8]C[gryn [1d?\]: o8 is a ko threat geeze :P
jjermann [2d?\]: Pequeninos: yes, but an unplayable one
carbon729 [3d\]: 8d saw this ko 50 moves ago??
Cookies [3k\]: q7? :o
nouziller [1d?\]: tsumego master
]
;W[pa]WL[288.777]OW[8]C[royalty [3d\]: chill
]
;B[se]BL[290.29]OB[7]C[Aldor [2d\]: there is another ki with N19 no?
tm93 [7k\]: n 7
]
;W[bb]WL[282.053]OW[7]C[ChemBoy613 [1k\]: n19
Feanor [1k\]: mm
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: fihis him artem
Nemu91 [5k\]: ignore???
Fabiano88 [3d\]: w has a shitload of threats
tm93 [7k\]: n 7 was better
mike2096 [3k\]: hi chem
]
;B[bc]BL[274.968]OB[6]C[elciego [-\]: careful
gryn [1d?\]: no ko for top group, k17 is atary
]
;W[sd]WL[274.639]OW[6]
;B[pm]BL[270.344]OB[5]C[Mjolner [3k\]: How much compensation does W need to win the game?
]
;W[pn]WL[268.037]OW[5]
;B[se]BL[269.531]OB[4]C[gryn [1d?\]: 5?
Feanor [1k\]: n19 
Pequeninos [5d\]: jjermann, i guess artem thinks it's playable
gacua [1d\]: black still has g10
tm93 [7k\]: n 7
]
;W[bp]WL[257.572]OW[4]C[MrZNF [5k\]: 10 points or so, less after a lot of tesuji :)
tm93 [7k\]: n 7
]
;B[cs]BL[265.429]OB[3]C[GoatCheese [2k\]: i think w is compensating for somtehing no?
GoatCheese [2k\]: haha
loveHER [6d\]: omg how did this ko happen
tm93 [7k\]: n7
tm93 [7k\]: n7
loveHER [6d\]: ARTEM WINS
profi [2d\]: m17 gives another ko , is it small?
]
;W[sd]WL[249.009]OW[3]C[tm93 [7k\]: n7
tm93 [7k\]: n7
tm93 [7k\]: n7
tm93 [7k\]: n7
tm93 [7k\]: n7
gacua [1d\]: g10
mike2096 [3k\]: o.o
jjermann [2d?\]: Pequeninos: ohh you mean the ko on top right or the ko on top middle?
nouziller [1d?\]: what a play
EdhelDil [5k\]: *_o/*      *\\o_*t15 
Cookies [3k\]: stop spamming :l
sucker: t13
zazie [-\]: tm93, please don't flood
Javaness [-\]: behave tm93
Claire [?\]: no flooding please
Claire [?\]: oops
mike2096 [3k\]: LOL
]
;B[dl]BL[250.217]OB[2]C[zazie [-\]: nice shot :)
DonValley [5d?\]: woah
Cookies [3k\]: nice ;D
Claire [?\]: :o)
ben0 [5d\]: haha
elciego [-\]: 3x admin attack!
royalty [3d\]: no flooding please, administration 
mike2096 [3k\]: 3 in one
jer [5d\]: simon champion
Sponge7 [-\]: admin powaa
Javaness [-\]: that'll show him
GoatCheese [2k\]: why spam such a donkey move
DonValley [5d?\]: threex boot
sucker: admins flood
Feanor [1k\]: lol
matroid [5k\]: so many admins!
NeoIGO [3k\]: admin 3x combo
Joshua96 [7k\]: zazie won the admin-race ^^
Nemu91 [5k\]: one shot admins
LionelLee [8k\]: c9
MrZNF [5k\]: G8m 
lobo [-\]: artem should win thanks to this ko
Laza [-\]: w doesn't see n19 ko?
jjermann [2d?\]: wow, now b might lose
GoatCheese [2k\]: b has too many ko threats
jjermann [2d?\]: if w ignore?
sdts: t15 
GoatCheese [2k\]: cant ignore this lol
gryn [1d?\]: w should ignore, no?
Lion [1k\]: ingore.
Lion [1k\]: ignore
illusion53 [1d\]: n19 not really ko
GoatCheese [2k\]: w would get shredded
shiff [5k\]: ignore
toofou [6k?\]: cant ignore
illusion53 [1d\]: since k17 is sente
lobo [-\]: no need to ignore
matroid [5k\]: cut
shiff [5k\]: wny can't?
gacua [1d\]: white doesn't need to ignore
lobo [-\]: lots of threats for w
chrpa [1d\]: d7
yuca [9k\]: I don't think W can ignore.
toofou [6k?\]: ignore = exchange i guess
Cassis0 [5d\]: can't ignore
Javaness [-\]: no need to ignore
toofou [6k?\]: cant ignore
gacua [1d\]: why ignores?
GandalfTW [2k\]: w has other good threats
Javaness [-\]: plenty of big threats left
GandalfTW [2k\]: e.g. O8
]
(;W[se]WL[156.625]OW[2]C[LionelLee [8k\]: c9 good?? d7 bring ups a few more threats
elciego [-\]: !
gacua [1d\]: wow!
TheFall [4k\]: hehe
Vulgarth [20k\]: 746 observers O.o
shiff [5k\]: !
Feanor [1k\]: hm
chibisai [7k\]: !
yuca [9k\]: !
WapiFlapi [6k\]: o_O
dantesxx [?\]: He ignored.
Javaness [-\]: wow
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: :D
RabbitDuck [2k?\]: so bad
lobo [-\]: ...
elciego [-\]: s'death!
SVHAN: outch'
limestruck [2k\]: hmm
power20K [7k\]: T_T
LionelLee [8k\]: we are all WRONG!!!
liberteen [9k?\]: Over 700 people watching...Good for KGS
Aldor [2d\]: N19 next xD
icecoca [7k?\]: good
fisz [?\]: n19 still ko !!!
monk316 [2k\]: this is a tournament?
GoatCheese [2k\]: hes more donesky then he was before
whatisgo [1d\]: Go Artem
chrpa [1d\]: white right
ganuong [4d\]: see 9d's threat now !
KoReNJe [3d\]: bad trade
LeFourBe [4d\]: B8 seem to work white after C8
jer [5d\]: w is alive
Javaness [-\]: he ask black to resign please
GoatCheese [2k\]: bbw is gonna blow his house all down 
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: artem says lets see what you can do
Sponge7 [-\]: wow
nd4ever [3k\]: another ko
mojin [8k?\]: b cannot be 9d
gacua [1d\]: c8
Lion [1k\]: ..
Maroncsan [?\]: yaaay:)
Lion [1k\]: b is 9d,
gryn [1d?\]: b c8 now
Cassis0 [5d\]: lol
Lion [1k\]: trust me.
sucker: now all is on black
CiaoBella [1d\]: y
CiaoBella [1d\]: lion is 9d
CiaoBella [1d\]: ; D
Fabiano88 [3d\]: w luck
oonicks [?\]: the question was to me should b have ignored b4 or b18
yuca [9k\]: ....
caquelon [4k\]: I love 8k players judging 9d players by just one game
TGLhakem1 [-\]: actually b is very strong 9d
nouziller [1d?\]: no luck
Fabiano88 [3d\]: luck
power20K [7k\]: shut up mojin B is a real 9d
Nemu91 [5k\]: b one of the best KGS players
Pequeninos [5d\]: c9
TheFall [4k\]: artem for pro!!!
xio [9k\]: b is real mccoy
Lion [1k\]: ..
Maroncsan [?\]: w is not weak either though
CiaoBella [1d\]: they are both 8/9d on tygem 
Fokatukc [5k\]: wow dead
gacua [1d\]: bbw is one of the strongest 9d on KGS
jjermann [2d?\]: mojin: b is a really strong 9d
nogonow [3k\]: why not t13?
xevad [2k\]: b4 would result in loss of a corner
jer [5d\]: e8 cut
uuii: luck....lol.....plz
KoReNJe [3d\]: tygem is weak
odnihs [1k\]: holy crap
Cookies [3k\]: hehe
TheFall [4k\]: 761 kibitzersand noone sae s19 :) !!!!
odnihs [1k\]: did b just die?
Cookies [3k\]: i like artem's pic
WapiFlapi [6k\]: is bbw pro ?
TheFall [4k\]: saw*
martin3141 [3k\]: both are very good players
shiff [5k\]: n19 
Cookies [3k\]: looks like he's staring bbw down
Cookies [3k\]: ^_~
jer [5d\]: b wins almost nothing sith d8 threath
CiaoBella [1d\]: lol koren
Pequeninos [5d\]: tygemis not a strong server btw
Nemu91 [5k\]: not pro
LionelLee [8k\]: b should have n15 1st
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: s19 is not the kind of thing we see
WapiFlapi [6k\]: thx
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: definately an advanced move
elciego [-\]: If tygem isn't strong, it's good that they're at the top, then
GandalfTW [2k\]: doesn't B6 die now?
ganuong [4d\]: m17 still a ko?
euasta [8k\]: dans game loock to me like the stones will fall down!...  x)))
DonValley [5d?\]: tygem is the strongest server
mof [2d?\]: good for the hetmanate, one final ride now and the cossacks are free
Fokatukc [5k\]: artem will be pro
Mjolner [3k\]: true Chem s19 was truely amazing
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: i never would have found it
HoangVu [-\]: it's in one of my books 
Fabiano88 [3d\]: a 5d saw s19
HoangVu [-\]: not uncommon lol
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: which book hoang?
martin3141 [3k\]: couldn't black have played t13?
HoangVu [-\]: fujisawa shuko
zekses [2k\]: p19 made s19obvious
rimen [3k\]: e9 perhaps?
binohito [1d\]: e11 soon
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: any1 knw the result of youth tourney?
zekses [2k\]: wonder why bignored
Nemu91 [5k\]: c8?
power20K [7k\]: what  r the prices of pro competition?
TheFall [4k\]: i bet c8
gacua [1d\]: black should ignore b4
pwaldron [-\]: prices or prizes?
lkjo [1k\]: b is in trouble
Paradize [2k\]: impossible c8
EdhelDil [5k\]: c8 seems now only followup
merengue [3d\]: c8 and b8
power20K [7k\]: z*
gryn [1d?\]: c8 is what i think
Daihokama [5k?\]: e8 
Biovizir [5k\]: g8 
jer [5d\]: c8 and cut e8
]
;B[ck]BL[51.987]OB[1]C[TheFall [4k\]: true
Cassis0 [5d\]: c8 b8 b9 c9 ? 
elciego [-\]: he moved!
xio [9k\]: threat threats
dantesxx [?\]: BigBadWolf is certainly taking his time thinking...
jer [5d\]: no cut if c8 cassis
Laza [-\]: cut
dantesxx [?\]: Ah
merengue [3d\]: I thought so CAssi0
ganuong [4d\]: b c8 but w can play just ko and m17 i think enough
xxxstar [8d\]: poor b..
zazie [-\]: still, B8
jer [5d\]: cut too
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: crosscut seems to work
profi [2d\]: c8 
Laza [-\]: d10 maybe
easycow [1k\]: wow, away for 3 min and big ko
Cassis0 [5d\]: 2 minutes for 2 moves 
Cassis0 [5d\]: better use time 
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: d10 works too
elciego [-\]: wrong 3 minutes to be absent for
carbon729 [3d\]: now 8d can foresee some other kos?
rimen [3k\]: b+ R
easycow [1k\]: :(
dumbling1 [3d\]: still, l19 lives with ko only, too
Nemu91 [5k\]: yeah
BassoonHrt [1d?\]: b looking for a place to resign
ganuong [4d\]: think w + R
whatisgo [1d\]: C8
gacua [1d\]: why c9?
nogonow [3k\]: yes
Nemu91 [5k\]: wolf never loses =)
lithograph [4k\]: whata game
Pequeninos [5d\]: c9 for d10 
ganuong [4d\]: c8!
patrickn [9k?\]: can someone give the sequence fo s19 if b played something like... i dunno r19?
matroid [5k\]: cut
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: black gets more forcing moves this way
nogonow [3k\]: i thinh w win 
Pequeninos [5d\]: then e6 e7 d7 e5 e8 e6 g8 
]
;W[ek]WL[77.788]OW[1]C[xevad [2k\]: I would have played c9
BassoonHrt [1d?\]: bbw lost this tiem :)
Sponge7 [-\]: strong players lose with a bang
Feanor [1k\]: hmm
zarif [5k\]: W+Time
mof [2d?\]: black has to goon it up
gacua [1d\]: b lost for sure
LeFourBe [4d\]: game over ? :)
]
;B[el]BL[300]OB[10]C[ganuong [4d\]: over
gacua [1d\]: suddenly, b lost
jerno [3d\]: w+ awesome
wasd [5d\]: с10
oonicks [?\]: be behind 3 4 pts when he plays awfully well
Fabiano88 [3d\]: lucky artem
Mooshiro: c9 no good
nd4ever [3k\]: ko at b10?
Pequeninos [5d\]: b is ok
jer [5d\]: k17 is still a ko no?
MrSparkle [14k\]: S7 will be big soon
Pequeninos [5d\]: f10 tesuji
gryn [1d?\]: hmm
EdhelDil [5k\]: d7?
ganuong [4d\]: k17 ko
gryn [1d?\]: if white sacks it's abotu even no?
jjermann [2d?\]: but L10 is small
gyokuro [4k\]: d6 dead?
Nemu91 [5k\]: go go go bigbadwolf
Vinicius [1d\]: K17 self atari
nidza92 [-\]: b8 lives
jer [5d\]: right
nidza92 [-\]: i think
BassoonHrt [1d?\]: isn't k17 self atari?;
IceSpectre [10k\]: omg  763 guys watching this game :)
]
;W[bl]WL[300]OW[10]C[Feanor [1k\]: s7 is 14k tesuji!
desodor: wow, almost 1k observers...
chrpa [1d\]: oo
MuhsinBey [1k?\]: 793   and 1k
]
;B[cj]BL[281.073]OB[9]C[sulusepken [5k\]: loool
gonewb [2k\]: f10
jer [5d\]: so m17 but ko is umplayble
mike2096 [3k\]: h10  aji
mike2096 [3k\]: :P
Spartaaaaa [1k\]: why is not b resigning+
Lion [1k\]: b want to kill/.
Feanor [1k\]: w should live first
Nemu91 [5k\]: because  
mof [2d?\]: because black thinks he has chances?
Pequeninos [5d\]: because he has aji
ganuong [4d\]: b/c they still playoing
spherical [5k\]: because b hasn't lost yet?
sucker: because he's 9d
ChemBoy613 [1k\]: because some of this works
Pequeninos [5d\]: because b will win
jjermann [2d?\]: w in trouble
m111: no
Nemu91 [5k\]: because he's THE BEST
gacua [1d\]: why hadn't b ignore b4? I thought b4 was small
xxxstar [8d\]: b still ahead.. sure..
Fokatukc [5k\]: becasue bbw has epic skillz
artemjr: dad is the best
dantesxx [?\]: W's the best around, nobody's ever gonna keep W down...
Thorvald [8k\]: because........ lot of reasons 
loveHER [6d\]: b8 is questionable
Pequeninos [5d\]: b4 not small, if b tenuki c1
t3hRandom [8k?\]: lol, jr
thepaper [-\]: b4 kill the corner if ignore
gacua [1d\]: but that corner was smaller than q18
lonsan [2k\]: but enough to win
xio [9k\]: b is running out of stones
jjermann [2d?\]: w can connect in ko?
gryn [1d?\]: b9 b10 c8 d11 a7 live?
nd4ever [3k\]: white lose
liberteen [9k?\]: Where does L18 stand? N19 should settle game, shouldn't it?
Mjolner [3k\]: but big enough to win the game Gac
xevad [2k\]: black probably did not expect white to complete the ko
xio [9k\]: duh
TheFall [4k\]: time oO
EdhelDil [5k\]: b10 now?
Feanor [1k\]: now w has the time trouble
TheFall [4k\]: hard now
mof [2d?\]: time is ticking by fast now, hai
Gosnake [2k\]: hi
profi [2d\]: d11 
Nemu91 [5k\]: B+TIME \\o/
chrpa [1d\]: d11
odnihs [1k\]: did b just add time just now?
jer [5d\]: e9 was not good
nd4ever [3k\]: b + resign
gacua [1d\]: SE says W wins
Pequeninos [5d\]: b+ awesomeness
loveHER [6d\]: omg time 
tm93 [7k\]: setakes the l8 group dead
xio [9k\]: b10 honte?
gacua [1d\]: even black kills b8, it's not enough
loveHER [6d\]: 20 secs per move for 10 moves artem!
GoatCheese [2k\]: what are you saying
loveHER [6d\]: move damt
dantesxx [?\]: Artem's thinking out a sequence, when he knows it works he'll do it in a moment
Nemu91 [5k\]: bbw gonna win, no doubts =)
fisz [?\]: c8 is ok
Aldor [2d\]: still N19 :o
GoatCheese [2k\]: if black kills b8 its massive
profi [2d\]: if d11 b10, w can live locally, seems 
Biovizir [5k\]: close game
sulusepken [5k\]: whats hell
themyr0n [3k\]: f9?
Feanor [1k\]: now it's b's turn to be polite and add time :p
]
;W[cl]WL[100.072]OW[9]C[xxxstar [8d\]: b leading around 5
Hagalaz [4k\]: 10s/move now
Violence [?\]: 10 seconds per move now
binohito [1d\]: b10
sissy: still ko at n19
Hagalaz [4k\]: beat you to it
Hagalaz [4k\]: ;)
odnihs [1k\]: whoa my computer had crazy lag XD
sucker: ? this?
Thorvald [8k\]: b + time ?
Fabiano88 [3d\]: d10 
Lion [1k\]: nah,
binohito [1d\]: artem can timesuji around L19
odnihs [1k\]: it went from 4 min to 1:40 XD
Mikki62 [3k\]: nice
chrpa [1d\]: artem do not need time
shohho [3k?\]: did w give b time earlier or something?
bigbubbles [17k\]: g10 saves k10 group so why not playing?
LoveHate [5d\]: время
Lion [1k\]: w can play ko threat place,
jer [5d\]: b10 works
nd4ever [3k\]: b10
Lion [1k\]: and use the moves.
sdts: f10 
Feanor [1k\]: d10 f9 
Cookies [3k\]: d11? :o
Fabiano88 [3d\]: f9 then
Mikki62 [3k\]: wfp threatens wg8
GoatCheese [2k\]: now f10?
xio [9k\]: it would be irony of fate if w adds time and then lose on it
Gazpacho [1k\]: b10
jer [5d\]: everything works for b
jjermann [2d?\]: ah w can live locally?
Uicli [9k\]: болеем за Артема
gryn [1d?\]: looks alvie now
Fabiano88 [3d\]: f9 better than d10
Pequeninos [5d\]: f9 just fine
Cassis0 [5d\]: b10 d7? 
Mikki62 [3k\]: ah...no :(
chrpa [1d\]: d7 is sente life for black
Thorvald [8k\]: F9 ?
MAYAZW [?\]: השחור מנצח
E1chh0rn [1k\]: f9 is enouph
jer [5d\]: shisho
Nemu91 [5k\]: f9 ok
CosmoGo [11k?\]: d11
xevad [2k\]: b10 and white lives?
m111: GGGGGOOOOOOOOO ARTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mikki62 [3k\]: be6 ....
]
;B[di]BL[193.234]OB[8]C[CosmoGo [11k?\]: ^^
Nemu91 [5k\]: GOOO ANDYYYYY
odnihs [1k\]: Andy ftw!!
xio [9k\]: ladder breaker?
Feanor [1k\]: f9 
sucker: nope
Cassis0 [5d\]: b aiming at g12
xxxstar [8d\]: funny if whole g 13 group dies
TheFall [4k\]: time
binohito [1d\]: g12 is threatning white now
Thorvald [8k\]: w G8
]
;W[ej]WL[55.476]OW[8]C[Shadowrun [8k\]: b+time
odnihs [1k\]: yea
Nemu91 [5k\]: G8 bE6
ganuong [4d\]: see b power!
Fabiano88 [3d\]: b11 sente
odnihs [1k\]: w down to 7 sec a move
dima [2d\]: hope bbw adds time
Mikki62 [3k\]: wg8... b e6
mojin [8k?\]: E10?
Cassis0 [5d\]: dtrange move 
sucker: adding time sucks
Cassis0 [5d\]: strang move 
mojin [8k?\]: strange move
Cassis0 [5d\]: accomplish nothing 
Shadowrun [8k\]: is this internet game or real game?
loveHER [6d\]: accomplish alot of things
Sponge7 [-\]: artem lost his nerves
bartosh91 [5k\]: artem added time to bbw in the beginnig of the game
Nemu91 [5k\]: empty triangle
Cassis0 [5d\]: g12? 
nd4ever [3k\]: white live locally
LeFourBe [4d\]: w should A 7 to live
easycow [1k\]: real inernet game
mike2096 [3k\]:  g8 
Gosnake [2k\]: internet game
KoReNJe [3d\]: w is playing like a pro
power20K [7k\]: b11
SakanaEio [2d\]: white was worried about G12 maybe?
KoReNJe [3d\]: s19 was genious
frosty [4k\]: you mean d6 is alive already?
Cassis0 [5d\]: g12 semms to kill all 
jjermann [2d?\]: maybe w is already alive locally?
xio [9k\]: it'll be blitz soon
Cassis0 [5d\]: or im missng smthg
lkjo [1k\]: whats E10
nd4ever [3k\]: c12
loveHER [6d\]: g12 kills nothing
MrSparkle [14k\]: Q17 is dead :(
loveHER [6d\]: g12 g10
oonicks [?\]: f11 is lol
tromp [-\]: b10
Aldor [2d\]: G8 first
Cassis0 [5d\]: ok :) 
PlumeMoi [1d\]: n for ko?
mojin [8k?\]: don't understand e10
profi [2d\]: seems, d7 / b10 miai for w
PlumeMoi [1d\]: n190
PlumeMoi [1d\]: n19
]
;B[bk]BL[88.415]OB[7]C[TheFall [4k\]: botha have to play fast now
Fabiano88 [3d\]: hahahaha
Novalys [3k\]: Artem played very well
]
;W[gl]WL[43.262]OW[7]C[Fabiano88 [3d\]: artem lose
binohito [1d\]: g8
sissy: W N19= Ko
]
;B[en]BL[80.182]OB[6]C[SamirDuran [5d\]: b played betta
Fabiano88 [3d\]: on time
SamirDuran [5d\]: =)
]
;W[dm]WL[36.685]OW[6]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: w live? 
mike2096 [3k\]:  B+time
Welvang [2d\]: don't lose by time artem.......
]
;B[em]BL[74]OB[5]C[sulusepken [5k\]: yes
chrpa [1d\]: dead
nd4ever [3k\]: ko
Lorizael [11k\]: betta??
sulusepken [5k\]: go artem
GoatCheese [2k\]: thats how we americans roll
nd4ever [3k\]: ko T B10
]
;W[bo]WL[28.16]OW[5]C[ganuong [4d\]: w waste ko
nd4ever [3k\]: at*
GoatCheese [2k\]: we take the time addition but we dont give it
GoatCheese [2k\]: haha
SamirDuran [5d\]: w dead
DonValley [5d?\]: b11 ?
SamirDuran [5d\]: a7 
Reiter101 [-\]: dead as latin
odnihs [1k\]: did artem give bbw time?
mike2096 [3k\]: a7 
Cookies [3k\]: a7
GoatCheese [2k\]: yea
Nemu91 [5k\]: a7
loveHER [6d\]: white can a9
mike2096 [3k\]: hah
]
;B[eh]BL[56.022]OB[4]C[renart [-\]: a7
EdhelDil [5k\]: a7 seems to kill
Gosnake [2k\]: A7
Reiter101 [-\]: lol
Fabiano88 [3d\]: time lose
Fabiano88 [3d\]: haha
Cookies [3k\]: :o
rats [1d?\]: ladder breaker
KoReNJe [3d\]: ha
Nemu91 [5k\]: TIIIMMMEEEEEE
Cookies [3k\]: ah
Aldor [2d\]: but N19 :o
nd4ever [3k\]: kill is bigger
Sponge7 [-\]: too bad
Nemu91 [5k\]: lose
]
;W[cq]WL[11.28]OW[4]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: artem miscalculated here
ganuong [4d\]: timemmmmmmmmm
SamirDuran [5d\]: lol
zekses [2k\]: not on tiiiiiiime (
LeFourBe [4d\]: a9
napoleone [8k\]: give time
gryn [1d?\]: no ladder net...
]
;B[gh]BL[53.927]OB[3]C[mojin [8k?\]: w loses on time
Fabiano88 [3d\]: w lost anyway
Reiter101 [-\]: lost on time..
Gosnake [2k\]: C4
jer [5d\]: e9 fault
ganuong [4d\]: add
ldfsfdsj: he adds time
SamirDuran [5d\]: oh
Cookies [3k\]: lol
]
;W[fh]WL[64.604]OW[3]C[Reiter101 [-\]: added
Fabiano88 [3d\]: on board and on time
loveHER [6d\]: this is stupid...
Cassis0 [5d\]: b added one minute 
WapiFlapi [6k\]: bbw add time
]
;B[gi]BL[51.405]OB[2]C[rats [1d?\]: gobble gobble
jer [5d\]: woo
Ikarium [7k\]: :O
Cookies [3k\]: in sente? ~_~
jer [5d\]: bum
maxp73 [-\]: ??
odnihs [1k\]: woohoo
jjermann [2d?\]: game over?
Fabiano88 [3d\]: all dead
GoatCheese [2k\]: he add after the pressure is too much
nd4ever [3k\]: resign
Feanor [1k\]: argh
loveHER [6d\]: black makes white lose because of the time pressure
nogonow [3k\]: ax
]
;W[fi]WL[54.4]OW[2]C[ganuong [4d\]: gentle men ^^
]
;B[fd]BL[49.616]OB[1]C[DonValley [5d?\]: uh oh
chrpa [1d\]: end
loveHER [6d\]: and then he adds time
Cassis0 [5d\]: lawl 
Nemu91 [5k\]: BBW THE BEST
xevad [2k\]: om nom nom nom
]
;W[gj]WL[47.703]OW[1]C[SakanaEio [2d\]: ouch
KoReNJe [3d\]: over
illusion53 [1d\]: o well
xxxstar [8d\]: i said the whole group dies.. sigh
mike2096 [3k\]: USA is the best
KoReNJe [3d\]: dead in gote
Gosnake [2k\]: I add time when I'm in the lead
loveHER [6d\]: deeply disapointed in bbw!
gacua [1d\]: why c3???
GoatCheese [2k\]: thats true big bad wolf style
]
;B[fk]BL[300]OB[10]C[sulusepken [5k\]: damn
Cassis0 [5d\]: 8d saw it 20 moves ago lol 
SamirDuran [5d\]: hehe
Nemu91 [5k\]: OVER
]
;W[hi]WL[300]OW[10]
;B[hh]BL[298.581]OB[9]C[Fabiano88 [3d\]: hahaaha
mike2096 [3k\]: europe lost to USA in a tournament... must be like europes first time eh?
chrpa [1d\]: black gave time
Cookies [3k\]: hah
Fredrik [-\]: there is 5 more games
GoatCheese [2k\]: americans never fight fair
Princesita: Uoooo
bigbadwolf [9d\]: thanks
Sponge7 [-\]: nyuuuuuuuuuuu
Fabiano88 [3d\]: dont cry
MrSparkle [14k\]: woo
xevad [2k\]: om nom nom nom *3^2
pwaldron [-\]: well played!
EdhelDil [5k\]: e15 dies
m111: hell time
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: gg
lithograph [4k\]: great game
sissy: n19?
artem92 [7d\]: thx
baseless [-\]: good game
mike2096 [3k\]: BBW! good job
dantesxx [?\]: =(
Reiter101 [-\]: gg
AGATD [-\]: thank you for playing!
GoatCheese [2k\]: hahaha
Nemu91 [5k\]: INCREDIBLE GAME
bartosh91 [5k\]: why?
ganuong [4d\]: well well well
])
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;W[me]
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;B[mr]
;W[ks]
;B[gl]
;W[re]
;B[sd]
;W[ms]
;B[nr]
;W[bo]C[White will win the game by few points])
(;B[jr]
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;W[nq]
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;W[pq]C[There are too many threats here and Black cannot win the ko])))
