(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[3600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[frbl]PB[gongames09]WR[8d]BR[7d]DT[2009-03-30]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[frbl [8d\]: Hi
gongames09 [7d\]: hi
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]BL[3585.788]
;W[dc]WL[3574.674]
;B[pp]BL[3504.064]C[ren19 [6k\]: Will be great game
eon [-\]: long one at least
liberaji [1k?\]: lasting eons...
eon [-\]: =)
liberaji [1k?\]: at this rate
]
;W[dq]WL[3519.727]
;B[de]BL[3467.551]C[MssrBlanc [4k\]: nice name, liberaji
liberaji [1k?\]: i love aji
eon [-\]: yeah, me likes it too
]
;W[oc]WL[3419.602]
;B[cc]BL[3378.207]
;W[cb]WL[3348.043]
;B[cd]BL[3280.801]C[Lion [1k\]: i likes girls,
Lion [1k\]: that's all.
]
;W[eb]WL[3275.752]C[twold [2k\]: what's with the lame nick then? :-)
]
;B[ci]BL[3216.442]C[Fredrik [-\]: Please look at the players info for more details about the trip, or check the website directly
liberaji [1k?\]: are these guys from these universities?
Fredrik [-\]: no, organizers of the trip :)
Fredrik [-\]: the top players from the universities that will be teaching us is of course kgs 9d level ^^
]
;W[pe]WL[3153.703]C[blitzinz [2d\]: wow, I wish I was rich so I could afford such things
]
;B[qe]BL[3171.975]C[calcitonin: how come no one is making cool poses
liberaji [1k?\]: i wish i were younger so i could still benefit from classes
calcitonin: they don't look like they are having fun
nicat [3k\]: yeah your name gives you away
Fredrik [-\]: our oldest participant was in the 80s and he enjoyed the trip, liberaji :)
liberaji [1k?\]: they are exhausted from daily studies
Psychee [8k?\]: 80s!
]
;W[pf]WL[3062.731]C[liberaji [1k?\]: no pain no gain
]
;B[qf]BL[3145.401]C[slayathon [1d\]: who is playing gongames?
Fredrik [-\]: on the picture, Chang Hao 9p is teaching our participants :)
Fredrik [-\]: of course everyone focus on the board and his teaching ^^
Psychee [8k?\]: does chang hao speak english?
SkyDevil [2d?\]: super
]
;W[pg]WL[3022.576]
;B[qh]BL[3143.131]C[Fredrik [-\]: I dont think so, but the other teacher at that trip (Bao Yun 6d) translates :)
Hyoga [4k\]: K16 ?
cjr [?\]: it was actually me playing Chang Hao that time :)
Altist [1k\]: think K16 is nice
Altist [1k\]: or J16
liberaji [1k?\]: isn't the upper side "not interesting"?
eon [-\]: hey cjr =)
ren19 [6k\]: nope Enteresting
]
;W[jc]WL[2973.693]C[cjr [?\]: hi
RedQueen [5d\]: k16 makes territory with thickness, more dynamic is g16 and hope w invades
Altist [1k\]: looks low
Hyoga [4k\]: d5
ketchup [-\]: k4
calcitonin: b looks good
Altist [1k\]: d5 looks nice
Hyoga [4k\]: ^^
NguyenVu [7k\]: F16 now
ren19 [6k\]: j3
calcitonin: w top doesn't look ideal
k43r [3k\]: d5 time?
ketchup [-\]: nothing of blacks looks ideal either
Altist [1k\]: k3 or d5 i think
Fokatukc [5k\]: it's all just moyo still
pel [4k\]: who are the players?
Ghet: g16
]
;B[co]BL[3035.343]C[NguyenVu [7k\]: G16
Hyoga [4k\]: ah close
ketchup [-\]: pincer only choice?
calcitonin: b even played r14
Hyoga [4k\]: e4 :p
Ghet: kosumi :p
RubberDuck [7d?\]: black plays normally, can also try g16 to press w down where already overconcentrated
Fredrik [-\]: I hope as many as possible consider joining us on this trip to Shanghai, or perhaps tell your friends about us, they might be interested :)
calcitonin: i'm interested
calcitonin: but i don't have money
Thoravatar [2d\]: interesting to see black pushed an extra time on the topright
cjr [?\]: think it is interesting who players are also :)
Fokatukc [5k\]: pincer coming?
Thoravatar [2d\]: surely not
k43r [3k\]: naaat. pincer sux here
Ghet: d5 ?
Hyoga [4k\]: no
Cannabicol [2d\]: how strong is B?
k43r [3k\]: white should look for something on left side
Psychee [8k?\]: cannot it be e5?...
Thoravatar [2d\]: i would like F4
NguyenVu [7k\]: E6
Hyoga [4k\]: no w stone aroound K4 so d5 is not good 
Fredrik [-\]: we tried to cut down the prices alot this year, 675€ for one month, and 975€ for 2 months. But is realize it's still quite much money for some, calcitonin :(
RubberDuck [7d?\]: f4 is normal, white may fear q12
]
;W[ep]WL[2819.873]C[Ghet: kosumi =)
blitzinz [2d\]: white feels low on top
blitzinz [2d\]: is that a fair assessment?
RubberDuck [7d?\]: yes, low and not territory
blitzinz [2d\]: I felt q15 should have been at c5
]
;B[dm]BL[2986.319]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: black m17 hard to kill, tho not a good move now
calcitonin: w needs two more moves at the top
RubberDuck [7d?\]: d7 funny, invites w to play e11 and takemiya style
Nemu91 [4k\]: takemiya style is so cool ^^
RubberDuck [7d?\]: imo black should g16 first if planning d7
RubberDuck [7d?\]: or simply f15
nidza92 [-\]: g16 too ambitious
nidza92 [-\]: f15 better yes
RubberDuck [7d?\]: but now white e11 is nice
]
;W[ee]WL[2658.965]
;B[ef]BL[2926.028]C[NguyenVu [7k\]: E16 no choise
CGBSpender [-\]: or F15
]
;W[fe]WL[2593.434]C[NguyenVu [7k\]: B hard now
RubberDuck [7d?\]: trying to look like the classic Shusai Karigane game
NguyenVu [7k\]: ang big
]
;B[df]BL[2890.927]C[xellos [-\]: g13
CGBSpender [-\]: is D14 really correct ?
Ghet: L4
RubberDuck [7d?\]: d14 not as stylish as shusai, played d14 at f17, d16, d14
CGBSpender [-\]: i would never think of F17 hehe
]
;W[nq]WL[2495.828]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: shape point
twold [2k\]: why not? it's shape. should be natural for better players :-)
CGBSpender [-\]: right
twold [2k\]: not for me though :-)
CGBSpender [-\]: but still, it wouldn't come to my mind
RubberDuck [7d?\]: p11 looks big
]
;B[lp]BL[2854.339]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: whats up with f17? i see no stone there
eon [-\]: Shusai would play it
Etyn [8k\]: it needs a stone
]
;W[no]WL[2422.114]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: which year is gongames09's photo from?
RubberDuck [7d?\]: too late now, white can e16
]
;B[pn]BL[2848.195]C[mirdolatte [2d\]: isn't p11 too thin for b?
]
;W[jp]WL[2375.711]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: yes, b plays q12 not p11
mirdolatte [2d\]: ah yes :)
]
;B[lr]BL[2819.906]C[dandalon [3k\]: whats the best reducing move on top? k15? L16?
RubberDuck [7d?\]: if b has no plan to invade m17 he should probably play l15 or l14 to press w down
Fredrik [-\]: please check the website, warfreak2
Fredrik [-\]: the picture is there :)
st21 [10k\]: real slow game
]
;W[pq]WL[2319.441]
;B[qq]BL[2808.286]C[fulgurex [2k\]: thinking game:-)
Xtremoduro [2d\]: im not sure i would like to press so early with points like q12 or g13 still available
sophtpaw [4k\]: this is pro game?
Dilemma [3d\]: no, promo game
]
;W[lo]WL[2236.617]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: X the problem is if w plays q12 then d10, maybe l15 will die to l13
Fredrik [-\]: yes promotion game for the china trip to shanghai ^^
]
;B[mp]BL[2791.334]C[Dilemma [3d\]: no problem with that :-)
Goreon [1d\]: who is b fredrik?
sophtpaw [4k\]: Fredrik: you are the promoter?
]
;W[op]WL[2148.833]C[pel [4k\]: still no word on who are playing?
Fredrik [-\]: I'm going on the trip, so I help promoting the trip, yeah :)
]
;B[pr]BL[2760.849]C[Goreon [1d\]: ko?
]
;W[oq]WL[2124.171]C[bobo [8k\]: p3 even 
RubberDuck [7d?\]: no ko threats for the big kos
bobo [8k\]: alot of cuts
bobo [8k\]: r4 for one
b8matt [9k\]: b r5?
]
;B[qo]BL[2728.908]C[bobo [8k\]: r4 q5 r2 s3 p2 
b8matt [9k\]: :D
Altist [1k\]: ;)
b8matt [9k\]: I should be a dan...
Maverik [5k\]: m2 is a bit weak ))
bobo [8k\]: yeah if w connects
bobo [8k\]: at n5
Xtremoduro [2d\]: then we all should be pro
bobo [8k\]: will m2 get away
Xtremoduro [2d\]: i guess we all called a pro move at least once
b8matt [9k\]: :P maybe you should
RubberDuck [7d?\]: m2 has n5 or j3 to escape
Miyabiyama [-\]: w n5 b j3 i guess
Miyabiyama [-\]: but just a guess
]
;W[mo]WL[2044.824]C[Maverik [5k\]: my first 2-3 moves normally quite pro ))
bobo [8k\]: ok i get to see i guess
bobo [8k\]: becuase n5 seem sthe most solid
Xtremoduro [2d\]: b looks good here
b8matt [9k\]: b could also o1 to save, but that's small
bobo [8k\]: ok
bobo [8k\]: lol
bobo [8k\]: that the one i saw
Xtremoduro [2d\]: o1 is not the shape matt
Magnusjen [5k\]: well there are only 361 spaces on the board
Xtremoduro [2d\]: p1 is
bobo [8k\]: of course i see the small lone
RubberDuck [7d?\]: if n5 is a weak white group then w has lost
Magnusjen [5k\]: i think pros have played all 361 hehe
sensitive [8k?\]: ''only''
]
;B[iq]BL[2682.852]C[b8matt [9k\]: right I meant p1...
RubberDuck [7d?\]: if it is attacking m2 then w has a game
b8matt [9k\]: >_>
RubberDuck [7d?\]: so w should p11 and make n5 strong in sente
]
;W[kp]WL[1997.125]
;B[kq]BL[2675.449]C[Goreon [1d\]: w going for influence now
Xtremoduro [2d\]: the game seems more promising for black.
bobo [8k\]: making some weak points to
Xtremoduro [2d\]: in my opinion
b8matt [9k\]: can't wait to see b let the dragon loose...
RubberDuck [7d?\]: l4 was hasty, now b has fast life at n3
holycarp [1k\]: sloooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
bobo [8k\]: k3?
Etyn [8k\]: o8 
chayn [8k\]: l4 was to make shape i guess
sun [4k\]: h2?
Hendrix [1d\]: n3?
Etyn [8k\]: oh i guess have to play for bottom left first :P
RubberDuck [7d?\]: l4 doesnt help w much, just makes the l5 cut a problem
]
;W[ek]WL[1866.375]C[holycarp [1k\]: that move is...AWESOME
barty [2d\]: looks overplay
KoReNJe [3d\]: not.
KoReNJe [3d\]: w only chance is to make center moyo
]
;B[fl]BL[2646.024]C[Etyn [8k\]: guarded l5 cut :P
RubberDuck [7d?\]: ordinary ladder breaker
Etyn [8k\]: o.o
kingbong [2k\]: ladder breaker?
Xtremoduro [2d\]: b can resist.. and the move may lose points
pel [4k\]: it's only overplay if you get cut off
]
;W[ck]WL[1841.743]C[bobo [8k\]: for the l5 cut
holycarp [1k\]: fighto
]
;B[fk]BL[2628.64]
;W[di]WL[1834.405]C[holycarp [1k\]: white is pro
RubberDuck [7d?\]: now black will get g13 in sente and Takemiya will cry
]
;B[ch]BL[2615.438]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: weak duck
kingbong [2k\]: :D
]
;W[fj]WL[1813.616]C[WaterAndGo [3k\]: should g13 now
cjr [?\]: Korenje, focus on game if you wish :)
Xtremoduro [2d\]: w just created a weak group, and the ladder aint broken anyway, imo
NguyenVu [7k\]: cut
holycarp [1k\]: cjr is a ne admin?
]
;B[gj]BL[2582.725]C[Desperis [8k\]: Takemiya ?
holycarp [1k\]: new admin?
KoReNJe [3d\]: must be israeli....
xellos [-\]: Takemiya is admin?
]
;W[fi]WL[1801.765]C[WaterAndGo [3k\]: XD
]
;B[gi]BL[2578.447]C[WaterAndGo [3k\]: stop it, you'll get banned again
holycarp [1k\]: lol
Xtremoduro [2d\]: also whatever chances w had of going for a promi,sing center are gone
]
;W[fg]WL[1790.159]
;B[ff]BL[2547.076]C[xellos [-\]: on the other hand, b has a lot less territory, and f8 is not alive
]
;W[gh]WL[1767.641]C[huaHAHAUH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEzOuneLJ64&feature=related
Xtremoduro [2d\]: nor is the k4 dragon
Xtremoduro [2d\]: which is getting weaker
holycarp [1k\]: i dont gonna click that
Goreon [1d\]: RubberDuck I lke your comments
holycarp [1k\]: register first
]
;B[gf]BL[2526.226]
;W[ih]WL[1751.483]C[shadowindx [20k\]: It looks pretty even to me.
shadowindx [20k\]: white has more influence
bobo [8k\]: i didi as well
embeck [5k\]: yes...RubberDuck...thanks..nice comments easy for us to start to comprehend
bobo [8k\]: like you r comments i mean
RubberDuck [7d?\]: b is surely happy. if he was asked to pass for g14 he would need tpo be paid 50 points
fulgurex [2k\]: F11, k4 not alive and the upper moyo is gone not alive
]
;B[el]BL[2495.048]C[holycarp [1k\]: what did the Duck said?
yayayo: youre playing?
]
;W[cj]WL[1732.86]C[sjdv1982 [21k\]: hi I am just a beginner watching these go gods... but would h8 be a good move for white?
tsuchigumo [-\]: B looks shredded to me
holycarp [1k\]: only god in kgs is wms
norg [5k\]: 409 observers
holycarp [1k\]: watch your mouth
norg [5k\]: Impressive
]
;B[bq]BL[2457.55]C[MssrBlanc [4k\]: h8 seems meaningless to me now
MssrBlanc [4k\]: there is a proverb--don't peep where you might want to cut
norg [5k\]: Who is b in real life?
Eiyuu [6k\]: Never heard of wms
Xtremoduro [2d\]: that proverb is dubious
xellos [-\]: e4 and L4... w has more problems than b
sun [4k\]: joker
Xtremoduro [2d\]: many times we want to cut where we shouldnt
]
;W[ho]WL[1684.472]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: black h17 is one advantage of g14
holycarp [1k\]: wms is THE CREATOR
MssrBlanc [4k\]: fair point, xtremoduro--maybe "don't peep where cutting might be a good idea" is accurate
Eiyuu [6k\]: Of what?
MssrBlanc [4k\]: but clumsy
xellos [-\]: how to cut white?
]
;B[gq]BL[2415.927]C[Rajan [18k\]: wms created cgoban
RubberDuck [7d?\]: is that creator as in drop o' the creator every morn?
Sorge [3k?\]: привет Даня
bobo [8k\]: b can h17 ?
]
;W[gp]WL[1655.456]
;B[fq]BL[2402.03]
;W[do]WL[1648.656]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: yes, h17 with attitude
xellos [-\]: who will get q12 first?
]
;B[cn]BL[2378.677]C[bobo [8k\]: if that move is workoing i love it
Novalys [3k\]: g9
tsuchigumo [-\]: w totally shredded
RubberDuck [7d?\]: q12 too late for w, hed better r10 now
AtariGo [-\]: i thought wms created kgs?
Fredrik [-\]: ^^
EyesOnly [2d\]: kgs created wms
]
;W[hd]WL[1593.923]C[bobo [8k\]: stoppping the h17
runk [1d\]: so much for h17
IceSpectre [11k\]: say bye bye to h17 
bobo [8k\]: \\:(
Xtremoduro [2d\]: having to defend that ios a pain
Desperis [8k\]: Who are the players ?
Deadmau5 [8k\]: heh
Xtremoduro [2d\]: b feels ahead
RubberDuck [7d?\]: black k6 attacks the whole dragon
Xtremoduro [2d\]: yeah nice shape destroyer
Fredrik [-\]: players are participants of the trip :)
]
;B[eh]BL[2343.512]C[khem [2k?\]: is anyone been told about a computer winning a pro recently (taiwan)?
bartosh91 [5k\]: I like black
Xtremoduro [2d\]: khem, wasnt that the 9h game?
shadowindx [20k\]: yes
comeee [12k?\]: yes i heard that too...
holycarp [1k\]: it was 7h
shadowindx [20k\]: a bunch of robots
]
;W[fh]WL[1562.072]C[juhop [1d\]: 7h and here on KGS
shadowindx [20k\]: really?
khem [2k?\]: i don't know much
Hendrix [1d\]: khem, look at gobase.com
Xtremoduro [2d\]: i like k6 a lot
holycarp [1k\]: but some pro lost vs computer with 6h
st21 [10k\]: how many o'clock now in NY?
st21 [10k\]: any1 know?
b8matt [9k\]: 4:24
Deadmau5 [8k\]: 430
khem [2k?\]: ok xtrem
st21 [10k\]: thx
]
;B[jn]BL[2303.138]C[b8matt [9k\]: pm
yoyoma [1d\]: Summary of computer vs pro games:  http://www.computer-go.info/h-c/
Eiyuu [6k\]: Its 4:30 in new york?
comeee [12k?\]: i think the software had been programmed by a french team
norg [5k\]: K6 seems a bit strange
]
;W[ip]WL[1552.438]C[lowly [5k\]: K6!
]
;B[hq]BL[2298.556]C[norg [5k\]: Isn't it directionless and a tad weak?
b8matt [9k\]: its 4:30 all along the east coast of the US
]
;W[kn]WL[1545.269]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: its the shape point
lowly [5k\]: w responding...
xellos [-\]: it's a ladder breaker
norg [5k\]: Ah. Kyus don't need shape
Xtremoduro [2d\]: that too
]
;B[jm]BL[2273.525]
;W[fp]WL[1533.203]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: now w is a huge dragon searching for life
tylerumn [11k\]: have you guys noticed that both players have the exact same profile description?
Eiyuu [6k\]: Yes. Kyus do need shape. I fyou don't learn shape now how do you expect to reach 1d?
Remember [3k\]: by playing games
]
;B[hp]BL[2244.839]C[tonyp [3d\]: B is trying to keep the w groups separate with an eye to profiting
norg [5k\]: I've been going fairly steadily for the last year, I just need to hold out :)
holycarp [1k\]: sunday move
Deadmau5 [8k\]: by reading
IceSpectre [11k\]: N7 ? 
Ahzumi [8k\]: it s gobase.org
Remember [3k\]: shapes aide your reading
Cannabicol [2d\]: j5 only move
Xtremoduro [2d\]: k6 was awesome
RubberDuck [7d?\]: w has half an eye at p2 and half at c2, needs one at n7 to be alive
norg [5k\]: To be honest, I don't know how I win games. I have an average opening, a weak middle game and an average ending
Deadmau5 [8k\]: lol
norg [5k\]: And no shape.
BabaAesop [7k\]: opening is so important
lowly [5k\]: you win 5k games, then...
Eiyuu [6k\]: Norg I've been told I have a great opening, but horrible middle game. Then great ending. xD
]
;W[io]WL[1447.502]C[lowly [5k\]: :-)
telchar [1d\]: opening is important like 10-20 points
Deadmau5 [8k\]: just win by not making mistakes, and punishing your opponants =P
WaterAndGo [3k\]: opening makes me lose games
holycarp [1k\]: false lie
tontonken [10k\]: wow
tontonken [10k\]: 454 observers
Xtremoduro [2d\]: i wouldnt like to play w in this position.. he has so little potential
]
;B[gn]BL[2207.111]C[holycarp [1k\]: 454 multitaskers
]
;W[go]WL[1437.353]
;B[ph]BL[2204.831]
;W[oh]WL[1433.867]C[Deadmau5 [8k\]: or 454 jobless people =P
RubberDuck [7d?\]: maybe b's best attack is q12 and invite w to try and make another group on the r
IceSpectre [11k\]: now q12 ?
Cannabicol [2d\]: hehe
MildPeril [1k\]: that was nice order...
lowly [5k\]: holiday
sjdv1982 [21k\]: n7 now?
]
;B[oi]BL[2185.34]
;W[nh]WL[1426.347]C[xellos [-\]: or O7
JoK [9k\]: it is 10:30 pm in Europe -> almost nobody works now
Deadmau5 [8k\]: lol
]
;B[ni]BL[2165.612]
;W[mi]WL[1420.151]C[Cannabicol [2d\]: 10: 29 i wouls say
RubberDuck [7d?\]: w cant afford n7, b doesnt want to commit to a failing attack
holycarp [1k\]: only chineses
tromp [-\]: b j14 soon
Remember [3k\]: isn't the white in trouble
Xtremoduro [2d\]: uuh with g14 there this pushing is really enjoyable for b...
Remember [3k\]: white looks unsafe, l6 group
holycarp [1k\]: theyre the best workers
]
;B[mh]BL[2139.648]C[lowly [5k\]: w gonna have enough eyes in K4 group?
Cannabicol [2d\]: ready? fight!
]
;W[mj]WL[1409.057]C[sun [4k\]: b wins i think
Ummagumma [2k\]: i guess w wanted this fight
IceSpectre [11k\]: but n7 for false attack on the dragon and use the oportunity to take over the left side completly ?
]
;B[mg]BL[2119.789]
;W[nf]WL[1400.461]C[Ghet: j14
xellos [-\]: w k14 would still retain a lot of territory, I think
BabaAesop [7k\]: j14
JoK [9k\]: can't w make one eye by n3 m3 p2 r2 n2 ?
RubberDuck [7d?\]: n13 is a bit stodgy
Hipcio [2d\]: isn't n12 too brave?
sophtpaw [4k\]: vrey srow geme
Warfreak2 [4d\]: jok, that's a standard half-eye which b removes with o1
]
;B[qg]BL[2073.879]C[Cannabicol [2d\]: l12 directly rubber?
JoK [9k\]: thx
tsuchigumo [-\]: What is b doing with this cut?
]
;W[mf]WL[1390.812]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: i dont know..
norg [5k\]: Doesn't b want to save those stones?
BabaAesop [7k\]: not much
holycarp [1k\]: pros dont play blitz
xellos [-\]: they look quite dead
]
;B[kh]BL[2047.583]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: o1 doesnt steal the eye cos n4 dies
Xtremoduro [2d\]: i would have played the hane.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes they do, holycarp
]
;W[ji]WL[1373.947]C[holycarp [1k\]: i never saw a pro playing blitz so pros dont play blitz
Jinoc [2d\]: lol
Xtremoduro [2d\]: i fail to see why b needed this group at all
holycarp [1k\]: only srow gamos
meuns [2k\]: who is gon ?
RubberDuck [7d?\]: black is working up to h12
Ghet: holycarp [1k\]: i never saw a pro playing blitz so pros dont play blitz oO
]
;B[jf]BL[2005.768]C[sjdv1982 [21k\]: l14 now?
Xtremoduro [2d\]: that makes sense
kubuntu [2d\]: have you ever seen a pro?
BabaAesop [7k\]: w h14
Deadmau5 [8k\]: lol
Ghet: i never saw a bird making an egg so birds don't do eggs xD
Jinoc [2d\]: pros don't exist
holycarp [1k\]: i saw a pro so yes they exist
Bubarik [2k\]: matrix has you, holycrap
uggeh [13k\]: eggs don't rxist
IceSpectre [11k\]: j14 ? 
xellos [-\]: pros take all your eyes. you have never seen a pro
uggeh [13k\]: -r+e
Deadmau5 [8k\]: lol
Akagi316 [?\]: rofl
]
;W[jg]WL[1302.166]C[Kountch [2k\]: I have seen pros and cons
lowly [5k\]: b lives and wins?
]
;B[kg]BL[1995.867]C[wesley [9k\]: lol almost timed out watching this game
JoK [9k\]: I learned at Hikaru no go that pros play fast games - at least as young pros *g*
sophtpaw [4k\]: b just died
]
;W[if]WL[1291.896]C[holycarp [1k\]: wms doesnt exist though i think the CIA did this site but thats another history
slc: m10 
tromp [-\]: b h13
XY0908 [-\]: I developed this phobia lately: One of these days someone will misspell Holycarp's name.
Ummagumma [2k\]: h13
]
;B[pd]BL[1968.632]C[Rajan [18k\]: who'se holycrap?
MildPeril [1k\]: ya... like m10 not available.. b not die
Rajan [18k\]: :3
]
;W[od]WL[1284.099]
;B[ki]BL[1964.405]C[bobo [8k\]: well that didint take long
]
;W[kj]WL[1266.939]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: p16 vital mistake, he must o15
Bubarik [2k\]: well, my finger slipped :)
bobo [8k\]: for your phobia to be realized
Bubarik [2k\]: common typo
DavidC [?\]: b lack in lib
]
;B[lf]BL[1940.245]
;W[je]WL[1254.578]C[tromp [-\]: going for 2 eyes
tsuchigumo [-\]: Game turning into a mess
sophtpaw [4k\]: look b  have one whole eye already
]
;B[jj]BL[1902.092]C[BabaAesop [7k\]: ko for connect?
Akagi316 [?\]: how can b live?
DavidC [?\]: dirty fight
]
;W[jh]WL[1234.169]C[Airi [2d\]: who is win?
sophtpaw [4k\]: lol
bacci [3k\]: b
]
;B[lj]BL[1884.341]C[Eiyuu [6k\]: Watch and see!!!!
Rajan [18k\]: b is winning, methinks
IceSpectre [11k\]: nice one 
holycarp [1k\]: gooooooooo
]
;W[kk]WL[1222.063]C[Akagi316 [?\]: nice b
]
;B[lk]BL[1880.752]
;W[li]WL[1211.133]C[Deadmau5 [8k\]: se says b is ahead, so obviously w+resign
tsuchigumo [-\]: Bad shape everywhere
RubberDuck [7d?\]: w  has much more work to do
Bulzeeb [?\]: this is where the dragon dies
Jinoc [2d\]: m15 
bobo [8k\]: g9 cut may be somthing soon
]
;B[kl]BL[1848.472]
;W[jk]WL[1206.418]
;B[le]BL[1845.276]
;W[ng]WL[1200.639]C[Jinoc [2d\]: l8 looks like mistake though
Jinoc [2d\]: or not.
Hideaki [1k\]: hey longshi:D
zanooda [13k\]: can try to kill n10
RubberDuck [7d?\]: j10 is enough
]
;B[ij]BL[1780.559]C[bacci [3k\]: J10
Akagi316 [?\]: w res
]
;W[ik]WL[1175.229]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: w kills first.ç
]
;B[hk]BL[1767.4]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: the thing is b may kill the bottom
ManuL07 [3k\]: 2 liberties
RubberDuck [7d?\]: k9 is simply dead
BabaAesop [7k\]: hat evens this game up a bit
]
;W[lg]WL[1135.034]C[sjdv1982 [21k\]: m12
]
;B[lh]BL[1758.634]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: w was losing from k17 on
Remember [3k\]: nice one sjdv
]
;W[kf]WL[1116.592]C[sjdv1982 [21k\]: yay I predicted a move =)
]
;B[lg]BL[1755.955]
;W[mk]WL[1107.13]
;B[ll]BL[1753.786]
;W[ld]WL[1104.421]
;B[me]BL[1749.246]C[silver2k4 [3d?\]: m13 looks like a hand with one finger
Rajan [18k\]: pfft, I totally predicted m13...just didn't say anything >.>
]
;W[md]WL[1100.793]C[sophtpaw [4k\]: epic fail
]
;B[ne]BL[1745.529]
;W[oe]WL[1099.411]
;B[il]BL[1743.551]C[Remember [3k\]: shhh sophtpaw... lets build up his little ego then CRUSH IT
Ummagumma [2k\]: w resign
]
;W[om]WL[1082.658]C[Rajan [18k\]: dang :3
RubberDuck [7d?\]: b cam make rhs territory and win
sjdv1982 [21k\]: n7 now?
RubberDuck [7d?\]: or n7 and try to kill all
]
;B[on]BL[1710.712]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: win big without kill
sophtpaw [4k\]: Remember that is not Kosher :p
Fredrik [-\]: You can also look at frbl's info for more information regarding the trip ^^
holycarp [1k\]: who win?
Fredrik [-\]: or the website directly, hehe
]
;W[nm]WL[1059.078]
;B[pl]BL[1702.972]C[sun [4k\]: why w still playing?
Deich [-\]: g7
]
;W[ok]WL[1038.871]C[xellos [-\]: why I still watching?
Ermo [11k\]: cause he is 8dan
Xtremoduro [2d\]: cause  longest promotional games are the most promotional
]
;B[pk]BL[1684.801]C[holycarp [1k\]: who said im watching?
]
;W[or]WL[1031.65]C[Eiyuu [6k\]: Thi sis a promotional game?
Nith [6k\]: this makes me heavy in pants
Xtremoduro [2d\]: no, they past a bunch of lines every 10 moves because they enjoy
Rajan [18k\]: o.o
]
;B[qs]BL[1663.654]C[Remember [3k\]: 6
Remember [3k\]: e6
Fredrik [-\]: yes, please look at the info of frbl for more info regarding the promotion games, eiyuu ^^
]
;W[er]WL[1011.725]C[Billaben [3k\]: the real question should be, can white make eyes on the bottom now
Eiyuu [6k\]: Ah. I all ready looked at others. ^.^;
sjdv1982 [21k\]: c2 now?
Ahzumi [8k\]: is it possible w can win this game?
]
;B[fr]BL[1639.868]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: no
Deich [-\]: why not?
DavidC [?\]: The bottom part ruined the whole game for w.
xellos [-\]: well technically b can resign
Xtremoduro [2d\]: or kill himself
holycarp [1k\]: best game EVER
Xtremoduro [2d\]: but in most possible scenarios b is gonna win
Billaben [3k\]: and no, I don't see where white can win, black has dominated on points here
Kountch [2k\]: Technically?
Remember [3k\]: crap, the game
holycarp [1k\]: im petrified
Remember [3k\]: THE GAME
]
;W[br]WL[970.279]
;B[cr]BL[1632.398]C[Nith [6k\]: I completed THE GAME!!!!
JoK [9k\]: you just lost it?
]
;W[bp]WL[965.475]
;B[bs]BL[1616.466]
;W[ar]WL[961.704]C[Remember [3k\]: very perceptive jok
Xtremoduro [2d\]: b1 not sure its good
Gohz [1d\]: lose corner
Xtremoduro [2d\]: just c3 would been better
sjdv1982 [21k\]: a2?? why??
bacci [3k\]: b d1
Nith [6k\]: nice one
Ermo [11k\]: seems like there is two china trips
]
;B[cp]BL[1586.782]C[WaterAndGo [3k\]: yes, there are 2
bobo [8k\]: its called a tombstone tesuji
Remember [3k\]: sldfhZXC 
]
;W[cq]WL[949.015]
;B[eq]BL[1583.934]C[Kountch [2k\]: why not black C3 ?
]
;W[dp]WL[943.938]C[kubuntu [2d\]: a2 kills the corner, 1982
bobo [8k\]: a2 makes the 2 stone shape which can be attacked 
holycarp [1k\]: lol
xellos [-\]: nice
Ermo [11k\]: wich one to pick?
Remember [3k\]: sjdv----> i lol'd
Kountch [2k\]: ok
holycarp [1k\]: very good¡¡¡¡
]
;B[dr]BL[1566.948]C[silver2k4 [3d?\]: who is b?
sjdv1982 [21k\]: hehe thx for the info
Nith [6k\]: Im b
Billaben [3k\]: B3 is not an eye. ;P
]
;W[mr]WL[918.845]C[bacci [3k\]: black
]
;B[lm]BL[1545.567]
;W[mm]WL[908.819]C[Remember [3k\]: why not b4?
Xtremoduro [2d\]: if w doesnt resign is just to five fred some more good pasting time :D
]
;B[en]BL[1530.806]C[Fredrik [-\]: why should w resign?
Remember [3k\]: aha does not work
aertan [7k\]: no eye on b4?
xellos [-\]: b should pass
]
;W[ms]WL[899.461]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: cause b is loads ahead
]
;B[lq]BL[1508.909]C[silver2k4 [3d?\]: now alive
GocchiSama [2k\]: ko for eye
chapswooly [2d\]: q11
bacci [3k\]: b +60 pts
]
;W[pi]WL[871.958]
;B[pj]BL[1505.917]
;W[oj]WL[868.566]C[nolimits [1d\]: B18
]
;B[qi]BL[1504.58]C[MildPeril [1k\]: yeah.. is that another eye?
]
;W[nj]WL[866.411]C[Remember [3k\]: 9d game happening if this gets boring
]
;B[pi]BL[1503.543]
;W[ml]WL[864.597]C[kingbong [2k\]: nice
]
;B[pb]BL[1497.486]C[RubberDuck [7d?\]: o6 ko threat for both
bacci [3k\]: ooops
holycarp [1k\]: its blitz?
]
;W[ob]WL[846.274]C[IceSpectre [11k\]: it's fake 9d .. 
]
;B[ed]BL[1490.177]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: 20 pt lead at least
IceSpectre [11k\]: hes opponent resingned at 10 move 
]
;W[fd]WL[837.085]
;B[fc]BL[1483.413]
;W[gc]WL[826.153]C[NguyenVu [7k\]: P1
NguyenVu [7k\]: ?
xellos [-\]: ko
]
;B[ec]BL[1460.737]C[NguyenVu [7k\]: yes
NguyenVu [7k\]: big ko
]
;W[fb]WL[804.053]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: b needs not that
]
;B[dd]BL[1457.979]C[xellos [-\]: yes, but... it's only a big ko
]
;W[db]WL[799.634]
;B[bb]BL[1456.695]C[cedric92 [2k\]: w has too many local threats
]
;W[qb]WL[790.365]C[kimball [5d\]: no need to play it
]
;B[rb]BL[1445.332]C[Xtremoduro [2d\]: no ko when you lead more than 15
Billaben [3k\]: E10 is nice
xellos [-\]: e10 takes a stone
]
;W[ba]WL[758.216]C[WaterAndGo [3k\]: c19-b19
]
;B[ab]BL[1441.306]
;W[pc]WL[754.16]
;B[qc]BL[1437.81]
;W[pa]WL[753.231]C[DavidC [?\]: K2
WaterAndGo [3k\]: s19
Daihokama [5k?\]: h15 
]
;B[gb]BL[1414.706]C[IceSpectre [11k\]: E11 looks better that E10 
]
;W[hb]WL[743.146]C[bacci [3k\]: h15
]
;B[he]BL[1400.55]
;W[gd]WL[728.115]
;B[ra]BL[1388.766]C[gono [4k\]: k2
IceSpectre [11k\]: why s19 ?
NguyenVu [7k\]: I think can resign here
xellos [-\]: big yose
Lavipere [11k?\]: wasn't g16 better than h15?
xellos [-\]: reverse sente
otariana [7k\]: b7
frbl [8d\]: thx!
gongames09 [7d\]: thanks
frbl [8d\]: nice game
])
