(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[300]OT[3x20 byo-yomi]
PW[MilanMilan]PB[ppro007]WR[9d]BR[9d]DT[2009-02-11]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[MilanMilan [9d\]: hi
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[295.991]C[ppro007 [9d\]: hi
]
;W[dp]WL[295.904]C[Ludmila [6k\]: YES !
sefil3k [3k\]: YES! 2
]
;B[qp]BL[277.28]
;W[dd]WL[291.394]C[Battle [5k\]: YES! 3
]
;B[fq]BL[259.406]C[smell [4k\]: 4
]
;W[cn]WL[280.152]C[Ryuk [3k\]: =.=
]
;B[kq]BL[257.081]
;W[qj]WL[278.096]
;B[pk]BL[253.065]C[sefil3k [3k\]: is this small chineese?
sefil3k [3k\]: opening
]
;W[qk]WL[269.937]
;B[pl]BL[252]C[LadyInvite [2k?\]: Little chinese
]
;W[pj]WL[258.931]
;B[ql]BL[248.91]
;W[qf]WL[257.382]
;B[oj]BL[246.985]C[smell [4k\]: jaja
]
;W[ph]WL[252.2]
;B[oi]BL[243.616]C[adoreme [5d\]: mini chinese :)
smell [4k\]: cute
sefil3k [3k\]: size doesnt matter i mean its kinda chinese right haha
Ryuk [3k\]: LOL
]
;W[oq]WL[219.827]
;B[pq]BL[241.564]C[septa [-\]: sweet chinese? :p
]
;W[oo]WL[217.303]C[piDollars [9k\]: size is all that matters about the chinese opening
bingo [3k\]: hehe
sefil3k [3k\]: ok its a huge frame work how w could invade there
piDollars [9k\]: make it big
]
;B[mq]BL[231.336]
;W[qo]WL[215.604]C[Ryuk [3k\]: omg wow sefil
]
;B[po]BL[228.179]
;W[pn]WL[213.851]
;B[pp]BL[227.172]
;W[rn]WL[213.048]
;B[on]BL[205.463]C[sefil3k [3k\]: p6 or s8 big?
]
;W[om]WL[208.606]
;B[nn]BL[203.88]
;W[pm]WL[207.909]C[sefil3k [3k\]: ok
]
;B[rk]BL[198.882]
;W[rp]WL[205.979]
;B[rq]BL[196.803]
;W[nm]WL[203.736]
;B[no]BL[175.007]C[sefil3k [3k\]: p9?
]
;W[op]WL[186.923]
;B[pr]BL[172.444]
;W[mn]WL[179.303]
;B[mo]BL[151.128]
;W[rl]WL[173.743]C[sefil3k [3k\]: hmm after w p9 cut there is a ladder and d16 is a breaker?
]
;B[qh]BL[116.463]
;W[pi]WL[168.447]
;B[pg]BL[114.847]C[smell [4k\]: they play crazy ass chess
sefil3k [3k\]: watch out!
]
;W[oh]WL[136.645]C[che [-\]: b is a fighter
]
;B[qg]BL[109.577]
;W[rj]WL[135.514]C[LadyInvite [2k?\]: The invasion seems sucessful
]
;B[pf]BL[98.812]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: ?
]
;W[ob]WL[130.257]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: which invasion
]
;B[qc]BL[96.237]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: whites?
]
;W[kc]WL[126.392]
;B[fc]BL[93.661]C[LadyInvite [2k?\]: yep
]
;W[ec]WL[122.689]
;B[fd]BL[92.133]
;W[df]WL[121.826]
;B[ic]BL[91.34]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: really?
norg [6k\]: P9?
sefil3k [3k\]: small cute chinese turned into ugly duck ^^
LadyInvite [2k?\]: yep
smell [4k\]: peking duck
piDollars [9k\]: yes I like w
]
;W[je]WL[94.009]
;B[he]BL[87.876]
;W[dh]WL[90.493]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: haha
CardCaptor [1k\]: d12
]
;B[cc]BL[76.984]
;W[fb]WL[85.641]C[sefil3k [3k\]: i hate this move
]
;B[gb]BL[73.9]
;W[db]WL[84.811]
;B[fa]BL[72.178]
;W[eb]WL[83.595]
;B[be]BL[63.17]
;W[ce]WL[80.468]C[piDollars [9k\]: me too
]
;B[cg]BL[48.776]
;W[bf]WL[74.434]
;B[ch]BL[43.69]
;W[dg]WL[69.489]
;B[cj]BL[40.026]
;W[di]WL[66.275]
;B[cl]BL[37.601]
;W[ci]WL[60.3]
;B[bi]BL[35.04]
;W[dr]WL[59.54]
;B[er]BL[32.96]
;W[eq]WL[56.994]
;B[fr]BL[29.49]
;W[en]WL[55.984]C[che [-\]: g6?
asdfrer: b lost
]
;B[bk]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[iq]WL[53.353]
;B[go]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[io]WL[48.975]
;B[gm]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[im]WL[45.867]
;B[mm]BL[20]OB[3]C[Ryuk [3k\]: che, wena
]
;W[ln]WL[41.278]
;B[ml]BL[20]OB[3]C[Zvi [3k\]: m5 ?
]
;W[qm]WL[28.497]
;B[jn]BL[20]OB[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: b o9 terrible move
Zvi [3k\]: he didn't play o9 ..
CardCaptor [1k\]: noone played o9...
che [-\]: heavy one
sefil3k [3k\]: i know haha
]
;W[km]WL[20]OW[3]C[CardCaptor [1k\]: unless u are just calling out terrible moves
sefil3k [3k\]: i used to play such moves
]
;B[jm]BL[20]OB[3]C[Demon [2d\]: because it's a horrible move, that's his point ;p
Ryuk [3k\]: it WOULD be terrible (:
CardCaptor [1k\]: lol
septa [-\]: ...I was wondering about o9
]
;W[jl]WL[20]OW[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: haha
]
;B[ko]BL[20]OB[3]C[Yippie [1d\]: w t19 terrible move *_*
asdfrer: w a1 is a good move
Ryuk [3k\]: lol
sefil3k [3k\]: q9 group has no heart beat
septa [-\]: "Is it just or something wrong?"
]
;W[in]WL[20]OW[3]C[septa [-\]: *just me
]
;B[kn]BL[20]OB[3]C[asdfrer: the world is going to end
asdfrer: septa
]
;W[hl]WL[20]OW[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: o9 is a typical 30 move
]
;B[gl]BL[20]OB[3]C[Zvi [3k\]: sparta?
]
;W[gk]WL[20]OW[3]C[asdfrer: today 7pm
sefil3k [3k\]: 30k
]
;B[fk]BL[20]OB[3]C[septa [-\]: This is madness asdfrer
Yippie [1d\]: nah it is 4kyu
che [-\]: konnekt
]
;W[lm]WL[20]OW[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: 4k? really?
]
;B[kl]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[ll]WL[20]OW[3]
;B[kk]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[lk]WL[20]OW[3]
;B[lj]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[mk]WL[20]OW[3]
;B[jk]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[il]WL[20]OW[3]
;B[gj]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[hk]WL[20]OW[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: man i'll naver be a 1d
Zvi [3k\]: so black gained nothing and white manged to reduce
]
;B[el]BL[20]OB[3]C[Zvi [3k\]: nice :/
]
;W[ji]WL[20]OW[3]
;B[ij]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[hj]WL[20]OW[3]
;B[ii]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[gi]WL[20]OW[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: k9 b group will decide the game
]
;B[ig]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[hf]WL[20]OW[3]C[Yippie [1d\]: zvi it's not like the points around j3 was every b points *_^
Zvi [3k\]: white trying to kill to much ?
Zvi [3k\]: too*
]
;B[if]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[ie]WL[20]OW[3]
;B[gf]BL[20]OB[3]C[Zvi [3k\]: yeah but it was a reduction, or so i call it :o
]
;W[hd]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[hg]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[ge]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[fe]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[hf]WL[20]OW[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: h17
]
;B[mb]BL[20]OB[3]C[ghool: this game looks messy
]
;W[he]WL[20]OW[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: who is attacking to who
]
;B[kb]BL[20]OB[3]C[Zvi [3k\]: everybody dies
]
;W[kg]WL[20]OW[2]C[LionelLee [9k\]: both attacking both
]
;B[kh]BL[20]OB[3]C[royu [5d\]: hope this develops into a rivalry we will see often on KGS :)
]
;W[lg]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[fg]BL[20]OB[3]C[piDollars [9k\]: yes
]
;W[gh]WL[20]OW[2]C[Zvi [3k\]: hehe
]
;B[gg]BL[20]OB[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: yea i agree
]
;W[hc]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[hb]BL[20]OB[3]C[asdfrer: milan stronger though
piDollars [9k\]: g17
FootofGod [3k\]: great gamees on kgs tonight
piDollars [9k\]: cuttt!
Zvi [3k\]: tell that to ppro :o
Cigares [-\]: g17?
sefil3k [3k\]: plus i hope ZSi always watches b's games.. we might chat with her a lil bit :P
]
;W[fj]WL[20]OW[2]C[LionelLee [9k\]: yea
che [-\]: f10 very big?
]
;B[gc]BL[20]OB[3]C[LionelLee [9k\]: cutting seems too early
Zvi [3k\]: ZSi ?
LionelLee [9k\]: this forces black to join in gote
]
;W[ek]WL[20]OW[2]C[zsi [1p\]: ^^
LionelLee [9k\]: and cont. to attack
royu [5d\]: milan stronger but 1-2 vs. ppro007? hmm :)
Zvi [3k\]: oh
sefil3k [3k\]: yea ZSi, 1p Mrs Diana
]
;B[em]BL[20]OB[3]C[Zvi [3k\]: was starting to think he misspelled my name and thought i'm a girl :O
]
;W[jb]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[jc]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[lb]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[lc]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[ka]WL[20]OW[2]C[zsi [1p\]: um..
]
;B[kd]BL[20]OB[3]C[LionelLee [9k\]: well when nadal came in... people still thinks federer is stronger... though nadal win more
asdfrer: what? Zvi is not a girl?
jungle [1d\]: diana is sexy
Zvi [3k\]: yes, i am the world's center :o
]
;W[ld]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[kb]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[dm]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[dl]BL[20]OB[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: ZVi that lil S in the middle makes her 1p and female.. so  work hard :P
]
;W[kc]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[mc]BL[20]OB[3]C[Zvi [3k\]: maybe i could change my nick ;)
]
;W[kb]WL[20]OW[2]C[Zvi [3k\]: must ko ?
]
;B[le]BL[20]OB[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: i have an S also but its not in the middle thats why i am male and 3k :P
Zvi [3k\]: brave
]
;W[jd]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[ke]BL[20]OB[3]C[zsi [1p\]: as far as i know im not married :-p 
]
;W[ib]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[jf]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[ia]WL[20]OW[2]C[zsi [1p\]: ^^
Zvi [3k\]: implying we all should try ?
]
;B[ng]BL[20]OB[3]C[sefil3k [3k\]: Thats a good news so some of us still have chance on you ^^
]
;W[mh]WL[20]OW[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: we r not late yay ":P
]
;B[nh]BL[20]OB[3]C[ShikiChan [12k\]: and so she confirms it gentlemen, she is single! xD
]
;W[mi]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[kf]BL[20]OB[3]C[ShikiChan [12k\]: well not married anyways
ShikiChan [12k\]: xD
]
;W[ni]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[cr]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[es]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[cq]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[dq]WL[20]OW[2]C[piDollars [9k\]: this move scares me
]
;B[bo]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[bn]WL[20]OW[2]C[septa [-\]: ...
]
;B[co]BL[20]OB[3]C[Zvi [3k\]: black looks alive
]
;W[do]WL[20]OW[2]C[LadyInvite [2k?\]: Heh, black comeback :P
]
;B[cs]BL[20]OB[3]C[Zvi [3k\]: which might make white dead
Zvi [3k\]: :o
]
;W[fp]WL[20]OW[2]C[zsi [1p\]: um.i just said im not married.. 
sefil3k [3k\]: how about b B16?
zsi [1p\]: white not gonna die^^
septa [-\]: white has f4 
Zvi [3k\]: b16 b18
]
;B[gp]BL[20]OB[3]
;W[gq]WL[20]OW[2]C[wayward [1k\]: I just came, but f5
sefil3k [3k\]: yep i watched this game before.. w will not die ^^
]
;B[cp]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[gr]WL[20]OW[2]C[wayward [1k\]: olol
Zvi [3k\]: wow
asdfrer: white dragons never die
]
;B[ag]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[bg]WL[20]OW[2]C[Zvi [3k\]: i don't understand it :o
LionelLee [9k\]: c4?
]
;B[bh]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[bd]WL[20]OW[2]C[piDollars [9k\]: sente
zsi [1p\]: sefil, you too? ;-)
wayward [1k\]: a5 was killing, not?
che [-\]: a12
]
;B[bm]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[ao]WL[20]OW[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: Zsi, yes i did, strange right :P
]
;B[ap]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[an]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[ar]BL[20]OB[2]C[Zvi [3k\]: ?
]
;W[ma]WL[20]OW[2]C[Zvi [3k\]: you did what? :op
sefil3k [3k\]: they will live in the corner happily 
Zvi [3k\]: damn
royu [5d\]: for once I don't know which game to watch on KGS.  lots of interesting games today indeed
Zvi [3k\]: it's not me again
]
;B[nd]BL[20]OB[2]C[Zvi [3k\]: :(
]
;W[nb]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[pb]BL[20]OB[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: royu come on u r a 5d.. u dont need to watch
]
;W[sg]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[rg]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[sh]WL[20]OW[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: as soon as i got 5d i will quit
]
;B[sf]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[ri]WL[20]OW[2]C[piDollars [9k\]: whyy
]
;B[rh]BL[20]OB[2]C[Zvi [3k\]: amitious
Demon [2d\]: that's a lie
]
;W[si]WL[20]OW[2]C[ShikiChan [12k\]: that would be a waste
]
;B[qe]BL[20]OB[2]C[maxoux [5k\]: did milan play against breakfast in the end?
LionelLee [9k\]: whoa
]
;W[sq]WL[20]OW[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: 5d is my impossible even in 10 years
]
;B[sr]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[sp]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[rr]BL[20]OB[2]C[ShikiChan [12k\]: when you hit 5d, you will say, as soon as i hit 9d i will quit
MafiaGo [3d\]: k2
]
;W[jh]WL[20]OW[2]C[royu [5d\]: i am not really watching, I am a serial kibitzer
goggle [7k\]: p11? was bad?
]
;B[ih]BL[20]OB[2]C[asdfrer: if you get 5d you want to be 7d, if you are 7d you want to be pro, if you are pro you want to get higher pro, if you are 9p you want to get world champion, if you are world champion you want to get unbeatable....
]
;W[jr]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[kr]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[ks]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[ls]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[js]WL[20]OW[2]C[LionelLee [9k\]: cereal kibitzer?
]
;B[mr]BL[20]OB[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: royu spend more time with ur Avatar girls :P
]
;W[mj]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[fo]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[fs]WL[20]OW[2]C[wayward [1k\]: leave royu alone!! :(
wayward [1k\]: T_T
]
;B[mg]BL[20]OB[2]C[royu [5d\]: i have no girls now, 1 girl lost per stone since 1d
]
;W[kj]WL[20]OW[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: hahah
]
;B[jj]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[ki]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[oc]BL[20]OB[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: i would prefer to get 1 stone stronger while losing 10 girls
]
;W[mf]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[nf]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[lf]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[me]BL[20]OB[2]C[wayward [1k\]: as if you had to spare
wayward [1k\]: :)
ShikiChan [12k\]: ...
smell [4k\]: haha
Slowdive [10k\]: haha
]
;W[am]WL[20]OW[2]C[asdfrer: there were 5. you went from 1d->5d that makes -4. so there IS one left
royu [5d\]: ok, there is :)
]
;B[al]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[dk]WL[20]OW[2]C[DarkLife [-\]: if i have 5 girls i would quit go 
ShikiChan [12k\]: 1 girl > 1 stone  but 1 stone > 10 girls ...
maxoux [5k\]: i d give up 1 stone for 10 girls
]
;B[cm]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[dn]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[ck]BL[20]OB[2]C[maxoux [5k\]: 30k is fine
]
;W[fn]WL[20]OW[2]C[Delita [4d\]: so if u grow even more, u will start to have boys around maybe..?
Slowdive [10k\]: i know eh
]
;B[gn]BL[20]OB[2]C[wayward [1k\]: when I had one girl, I scarcely had time for go, let alone *five*
]
;W[jp]WL[20]OW[2]C[ShikiChan [12k\]: i would stick with 1 girl
]
;B[kp]BL[20]OB[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: hahha
]
;W[og]WL[20]OW[2]C[ShikiChan [12k\]: rather than have many..
CardCaptor [1k\]: id go back to 30k for the cheap cost of 1
]
;B[of]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[nc]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[md]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[na]WL[20]OW[2]C[maxoux [5k\]: 250 is fine too
]
;B[hp]BL[20]OB[2]C[royu [5d\]: my goal is 8d one day... when I decide to actually study the game again
]
;W[jq]WL[20]OW[2]C[asdfrer: a cat is fine too
maxoux [5k\]: lol
]
;B[ed]BL[20]OB[2]C[LadyInvite [2k?\]: Boys, you're terrible!!! :P
LionelLee [9k\]: sick
]
;W[ef]WL[20]OW[2]C[wayward [1k\]: that's what we do
]
;B[ff]BL[20]OB[2]C[Zvi [3k\]: my goal is 2k ;/
]
;W[ea]WL[20]OW[2]C[dal [-\]: royu: Aga 8d?
ShikiChan [12k\]: asd: thats what she said =.=
asdfrer: my goal is 35k
]
;B[ee]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[de]WL[20]OW[2]C[Zvi [3k\]: good luck asd
]
;B[dj]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[ej]WL[20]OW[2]C[tooweak4u [1k\]: there is no aga 8d anymore
maxoux [5k\]: tough
]
;B[fh]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[fi]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[eh]BL[20]OB[2]
;W[ei]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[fl]BL[20]OB[2]C[sefil3k [3k\]: Zsi, how long does it take to get 5d when you are arround 2-3k? with a serious study ? at least 1-2 hours a day 3 times a week?
]
;W[af]WL[20]OW[2]
;B[dc]BL[20]OB[2]C[jungle [1d\]: j'ai envie de gerber
zsi [1p\]: hm
]
;W[cb]WL[20]OW[2]C[Demon [2d\]: 4 years
MilanMilan [9d\]: thanks
ppro007 [8d\]: thx
asdfrer: serious study = 8 hours a day 7 day a week
zsi [1p\]: 4years sounds ok if you are not in asia..
maxoux [5k\]: who is milan?
royu [5d\]: i think i'm already aga 6.5d
asdfrer: milan is italian
ShikiChan [12k\]: 4 years! O_O
maxoux [5k\]: he lives twice in milan?
Demon [2d\]: psh, when i entered go congress i was 3k, i was 3d by the end of it ;P
sefil3k [3k\]: im living in Seattle, usa
ShikiChan [12k\]: im guessing the big hurdle would be once you hit 2d
royu [5d\]: i reached 1k in 3 months
Demon [2d\]: i reached 1k in 1 month
ShikiChan [12k\]: >_<"
DarkLife [-\]: lol
zsi [1p\]: it took about 4 years for me (10-14)
sefil3k [3k\]: stop this show off lol
tooweak4u [1k\]: i reached 1k in 3 years :(
sefil3k [3k\]: 14 years old and u r 5d?
zsi [1p\]: but dont know^^ for asian kids.. maybe 2 years, if they study seriously^^
Demon [2d\]: wait, starting at what point did it take 3 months to get to 1k? i was talking about while i was 2k, a month before i turned 1k :)
royu [5d\]: then about 1 stone in 3 more, next in 6, next in a yr next in two 
sefil3k [3k\]: i'm Turkish. does this count as asian? haha
tooweak4u [1k\]: oh
zsi [1p\]: i was 14.. yup 
tooweak4u [1k\]: i meant going from 30k to 1k
royu [5d\]: from total beginner to 1k took me a summer
sefil3k [3k\]: Royu so u deserved to lose all ur girls
sefil3k [3k\]: haha
DarkLife [-\]: haha
Demon [2d\]: oh wow, it took me about a year and a half to get to 1k
ShikiChan [12k\]: lol
zsi [1p\]: royu thats nice^^
tooweak4u [1k\]: wow
Demon [2d\]: maybe that long, don't think it really was though
tooweak4u [1k\]: how old are you royu?
sefil3k [3k\]: during summer no girl but just GO? man u deserved so bad
sefil3k [3k\]: haha
Yippie [1d\]: royu lucky to begin at the beginning of summer *_^
Yippie [1d\]: a begun at the end of it and had to study like hell to keep my grades
royu [5d\]: i watched games on yahoo.  sai (he plays here) taught me shapes, solid... and X_95 (now plays on TOM) taught me fighting
royu [5d\]: when I mean taught, I mean they played every day and I watched them as much as I could
Yippie [1d\]: you had teacher's aswell *_*
royu [5d\]: i had no teacher/books actually
Yippie [1d\]: ah tha kibitzing style
royu [5d\]: just learnt through watching two 9d level players all the time
Yippie [1d\]: wasn't this when cornel was 9d and kgs ranking system was broken?
royu [5d\]: not sure.  i arrived to kgs when tartrate was here
Yippie [1d\]: *_*
royu [5d\]: k, mogo :)
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