(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[6]KM[0.50]TM[1800]
PW[Lyonweiqi]PB[ben0]WR[3p]BR[6d]DT[2011-01-08]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[dd][pd][dj][pj][dp][pp]RE[B+Resign]
;W[nc]WL[1797.606]C[ben0 [6d\]: gg
]
;B[qf]BL[1795.811]C[Lyonweiqi [3p\]: enjoy the game
Gay [5d\]: omg 6 handicap
ExplO [2d\]: it seems too big indeed
go1d [6d\]: lool
go1d [6d\]: black can't lose ...
Ross [3k\]: wow
movingcrab [5k\]: dude, bro
Gay [5d\]: how can it be good game with 6 handicaps
kill [-\]: 6 hc?!
kill [-\]: omg
Gay [5d\]: yeah 
Gay [5d\]: would rather see an even game
Lyonweiqi [3p\]: congratulations you won the tournament of Dec
]
;W[fc]WL[1712.657]C[loskajees [3k\]: I would imagine wont feel too good for b to lose with 6 handi..
kill [-\]: but Li Ang can be quite evil (tricky)
Holmes [-\]: we'll see if Lwq's a genuine KGS 12d
ben0 [6d\]: congratulations, you are a strong sponsor
]
;B[kc]BL[1766.269]
;W[dg]WL[1694.821]C[kill [-\]: I still think no chance for w
]
;B[ee]BL[1756.959]C[Gay [5d\]: i hope ben0 crushes himm
Lyonweiqi [3p\]: THX
]
;W[pc]WL[1683.102]C[Holmes [-\]: apparently the tournament winner isn't so happy about that either ;)
DaoLin [3d?\]: who is the sponsor of this game?
]
;B[qc]BL[1748.628]C[Gay [5d\]: underestemating us kgs players
glue [-\]: the AyGoSchool is
]
;W[od]WL[1665.018]
;B[pb]BL[1736.872]C[annananos [4k\]: is 6H correct here ?
]
;W[ob]WL[1661.572]
;B[oc]BL[1735.281]
;W[cc]WL[1658.677]
;B[dc]BL[1731.037]C[kill [-\]: 6hc is too much
DaoLin [3d?\]: what is correct? 
]
;W[pc]WL[1656.851]C[Gay [5d\]: no
Gay [5d\]: should be 3h
loskajees [3k\]: maybe 6h to demo how strong the go school is..
DaoLin [3d?\]: equal chances for win?
]
;B[cd]BL[1722.5]
;W[pe]WL[1654.936]
;B[qd]BL[1718.825]
;W[ke]WL[1653.333]C[kill [-\]: yeah of course
]
;B[id]BL[1709.05]
;W[fe]WL[1650.596]
;B[ef]BL[1700.162]
;W[ie]WL[1644.864]C[kill [-\]: G16
hellas [6k\]: then it would mean its already set w as winner
]
;B[he]BL[1688.736]
;W[hd]WL[1642.856]
;B[hf]BL[1670.628]C[Gay [5d\]: e14 was too soft i think
kill [-\]: yeah
fbp [6d\]: no way white stands a chance ..
]
;W[hc]WL[1638.308]C[Gay [5d\]: should hane instead
kill [-\]: perfect komi is such that w wins by 0.5 if both play perfectly
]
;B[eg]BL[1649.726]
;W[if]WL[1635.379]
;B[jq]BL[1644.373]C[annananos [4k\]: can white kill the top ?
loskajees [3k\]: looks like w did great at the top
]
;W[pf]WL[1622.243]
;B[qe]BL[1641.645]
;W[pg]WL[1620.613]C[Gay [5d\]: yes white just kinda killed the top
kill [-\]: yeah w already caught up at least one hc
]
;B[fp]BL[1637.299]
;W[qg]WL[1617.638]
;B[qn]BL[1631.634]
;W[cj]WL[1615.237]
;B[ck]BL[1629.121]
;W[bk]WL[1613.405]C[calefacto [2k\]: yep
]
;B[cl]BL[1625.857]
;W[di]WL[1611.608]C[annananos [4k\]: black seems to go for a moyo
]
;B[bj]BL[1612.855]C[loskajees [3k\]: b p3 urm.. big?
]
;W[ci]WL[1609.464]
;B[bi]BL[1611.221]
;W[bh]WL[1608.028]
;B[bl]BL[1609.752]C[calefacto [2k\]: only chance is moyo with 6 handi ...
]
;W[ej]WL[1606.785]
;B[dk]BL[1608.53]C[Gay [5d\]: i dont think black really wanted 6 handicap game
]
;W[eh]WL[1603.17]C[DaoLin [3d?\]: komi and 0.5: theory is nice and interesting for a weekend newspaper addition, this is a real saturday's game ...
]
;B[oq]BL[1591.186]C[kill [-\]: hellas [6k\]: then it would mean its already set w as winner
]
;W[gp]WL[1593.601]C[kill [-\]: I was responding to this
DaoLin [3d?\]: W displays a lot of suji, but is still 'busy' on the upper board
]
;B[fo]BL[1568.672]
;W[jo]WL[1590.441]C[DaoLin [3d?\]: ^^ below as well
]
;B[jp]BL[1561.079]
;W[io]WL[1584.958]C[calefacto [2k\]: black played too fast
]
;B[hq]BL[1549.467]C[loskajees [3k\]: w playing for center moyo?
DaoLin [3d?\]: ?
]
;W[lo]WL[1574.377]
;B[ko]BL[1531.568]
;W[kn]WL[1571.001]
;B[kp]BL[1529.221]
;W[ln]WL[1569.687]C[calefacto [2k\]: should had took his time
]
;B[mp]BL[1526.854]
;W[np]WL[1566.458]
;B[mo]BL[1524.792]C[go1d [6d\]: black plays bad --'
]
;W[lp]WL[1553.572]
;B[lq]BL[1522.999]C[annananos [4k\]: well, he is only 6d
]
;W[mq]WL[1552.337]
;B[nq]BL[1521.459]
;W[mr]WL[1550.641]C[kill [-\]: maybe he plays bad because he has so many hc
]
;B[no]BL[1520.057]C[DaoLin [3d?\]: H3 was strange, now B will need 2 moves
hellas [6k\]: hahaha 
go1d [6d\]: yes , 6d are noob
]
;W[gq]WL[1545.4]
;B[hp]BL[1518.595]
;W[go]WL[1542.284]
;B[ho]BL[1516.959]
;W[gn]WL[1539.156]
;B[hn]BL[1515.451]
;W[gm]WL[1537.013]
;B[hm]BL[1514.149]
;W[hl]WL[1531.672]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: @calefacto : i think he has much better time to spend than playing 6h games with Lyonweiqi;.. ;)
]
;B[il]BL[1512.431]
;W[hk]WL[1529.567]
;B[jm]BL[1508.959]
;W[bo]WL[1524.249]
;B[cp]BL[1499.917]
;W[cr]WL[1521.688]
;B[dr]BL[1493.238]C[sheeryjay [1k?\]: white can play really well, I played in a rengo game against him and he as well as the 7k who was playing with him made moves that were almost always on the spot, so incredible game
]
;W[nn]WL[1505.615]
;B[oo]BL[1489.27]C[DaoLin [3d?\]: W's game is very nice :-)    top spectacle for kibitzers !!!
]
;W[cq]WL[1496.8]C[Holmes [-\]: that's an interesting strategy : you get your opponent outnerved before move 1 ;o)
]
;B[bp]BL[1486.94]C[annananos [4k\]: I would say black is leading
]
;W[dm]WL[1484.295]C[Gay [5d\]: lol
Gay [5d\]: are u serious
]
;B[ek]BL[1476.786]C[jokep [8k\]: lol
go1d [6d\]: he is leading ..
kill [-\]: lol
calefacto [2k\]: yes but 90 moves in 10 min seems fast to me ^^
loskajees [3k\]: if w was leading, he would be like 15dan
kill [-\]: if w was leading already the game would be completely over
]
;W[cn]WL[1463.943]
;B[fj]BL[1473.284]
;W[dq]WL[1457.887]
;B[er]BL[1471.068]
;W[eq]WL[1455.19]
;B[fq]BL[1469.788]
;W[ep]WL[1452.747]C[go1d [6d\]: O_O
]
;B[eo]BL[1468.38]
;W[do]WL[1450.951]
;B[br]BL[1465.336]C[Pliniofilo [3d\]: loskajees 6d+5=15d wow
mooooo [5k\]: oo
]
;W[fh]WL[1446.958]C[mooooo [5k\]: ..
yukimaru [2d\]: no way
Ross [3k\]: 1d + 1d = 4d?
mooooo [5k\]: is he playing 6d with 6handi???
yukimaru [2d\]: how can it 6 handi ??
meuns [1k\]: because he is strong
yukimaru [2d\]: i know lyonweiqi is strong  but it's too much
]
;B[gi]BL[1432.183]C[Onmyoji [5d?\]: hi
Luminous [14k\]: hes 12d
DaoLin [3d?\]: because of speed
Sumatakyo [14k\]: pro vs amateur? its normal
]
;W[fl]WL[1440.498]C[go1d [6d\]: O_O
Gay [5d\]: i just dont see the point of 6h game
Gay [5d\]: its not fun anymore
kill [-\]: it is fun if w wins ^^
Gay [5d\]: and this was prize from winning tournament
Onmyoji [5d?\]: 3p vs 6d should be only 5 handi normally
go1d [6d\]: g9 ?
loskajees [3k\]: gay, imagine for you its 7handi, aint that cool :)
fbp [6d\]: white is weaker than top kgs players like milanmilan
]
;B[fk]BL[1400.586]C[DaoLin [3d?\]: Go Seigen pushed fellow 9dans also up to 4H !
miao [6d\]: 6 is too much
tuquedenne [4d\]: it will be fun when all this white dragon will die :)
yukimaru [2d\]: since ben0 is 6d kgs (maybe 4d ama) i think it's fair with 3-4 handi.. but 6 handi is too much
go1d [6d\]: if ben0 loses , shame on him
Gay [5d\]: i would not play againts anyone with 6 handicap
]
;W[fr]WL[1420.357]
;B[gr]BL[1386.087]C[Yuldrasiel [6k\]: 6 de hand...
kill [-\]: when I play a top player/pro I can even lose with 9 hc
]
;W[en]WL[1417.037]
;B[fs]BL[1384.487]
;W[fn]WL[1415.355]C[calefacto [2k\]: 6 handi offers him the chance to win ...
]
;B[fr]BL[1382.64]C[go1d [6d\]: he wants to kill
]
;W[fg]WL[1406.052]
;B[ff]BL[1379.453]C[kill [-\]: but that is because I always try to get as much as possible, ie. I am not so good at winning won games
fbp [6d\]: kill what?
cenalexis [3k\]: dont understand pros
]
;W[hg]WL[1403.068]C[go1d [6d\]: but black is gready
fdsjhgf: kgs dans are just too weak
calefacto [2k\]: was fair
DaoLin [3d?\]: Probably W will lose (with good excuse), but a chance exists
]
;B[ij]BL[1372.979]
;W[ik]WL[1400.582]
;B[jk]BL[1371.267]
;W[jj]WL[1399.475]C[DaoLin [3d?\]: B should watcgh his left side group now
fbp [6d\]: and white should watch his
miao [6d\]: b fine
yukimaru [2d\]: i bet my life white can't beat ben0 with 6 stones
Luminous [14k\]: this game isnt about winning or losing anyway its a teaching game
go1d [6d\]: nice
MitoPomito [-\]: if black lives, white will not be able to win
go1d [6d\]: h10 just
fire1 [1k\]: yes b is greedy
hellas [6k\]: w almost negating any points ... only 1 kill needed i think to turn this
moi [1d\]: yukimaru that's a little much
]
;B[hh]BL[1328.06]C[miao [6d\]: j12
zazie [-\]: i don't think black is really learning something, Luminous :o)
]
;W[gg]WL[1382.017]C[fbp [6d\]: 6 handi doesnt mean its a teaching game Luminous
fbp [6d\]: it means it's White overplay game
Luminous [14k\]: not for black for all those watching
miao [6d\]: black is just punnishing w
Luminous [14k\]: else it 'd be private
yukimaru [2d\]: w want to tell kgs.. that he is stronger than seedol
danigabi [5d\]: i never got my teaching game
danigabi [5d\]: from the kgs tournament i won
fbp [6d\]: maybe he will give you 9 stones:)
Prodigious [4d\]: hmm i think i got a teaching game from some tournament as well
Gay [5d\]: lol
DaoLin [3d?\]: he will have it under better CTRL than me, of course; lower right quadrant becomes noe with lower entropy (=settled)
Prodigious [4d\]: but no-one ever contacted me
Gay [5d\]: this is madness
Prodigious [4d\]: but whatever
glue [-\]: danigabi, try contacting Lyonweiqi directly after the game
Gay [5d\]: hi danigabi
yukimaru [2d\]: i can teach, gabe
Javaness [2d\]: white waits for B18?
drau [?\]: b will lose on time lol
qwer [2k\]: j13 
hellas [6k\]: this is sparta
Gordan [11k?\]: who is wining?
fbp [6d\]: black
yukimaru [2d\]: black fo sure
fire1 [1k\]: kill black
fire1 [1k\]: :D
Gordan [11k?\]: why for sure?
Start [1k\]: b+108
go1d [6d\]: h10 just
kill [-\]: w can live locally with one more move
yukimaru [2d\]: because he will destroy white
yukimaru [2d\]: for sure
Slacker [?\]: w+t
Uberdude [3d?\]: i think b's attitude can be summarrised as "lol wot?!"
fbp [6d\]: b wants to kill
moi [1d\]: does c7 kills something?
moi [1d\]: kill*
fbp [6d\]: yes, locally
kill [-\]: go1d: but then w just lives?
Obsidienne [3d\]: i prefer j11
kill [-\]: with h10
Sire [1k\]: b has to consider c18/b17
kill [-\]: maybe L10 then H10
annananos [4k\]: is one of those groups in trouble ?
atilla11 [3k\]: h10
kill [-\]: yeah
Vinicius [2d\]: both
hellas [6k\]: lol all
shooastrid [11k\]: ...
Start [1k\]: w will win
pepito32 [14k\]: no
Start [1k\]: pro's never lose to amateur
shooastrid [11k\]: go black!
Right [7k?\]: pro lose again amateur
Sandmann [5d\]: b is pro
]
;B[ig]BL[1053.975]C[Right [7k?\]: so many time
CFrog [4k\]: i think it impossible to win any 6d with 6 handy
]
;W[ih]WL[1376.235]
;B[jg]BL[1051.724]C[Onmyoji [5d?\]: w plays like a 3p
DaoLin [3d?\]: is this necessary ??
Twfno [-\]: sandman teki!^^
Onmyoji [5d?\]: so many pro moves
jokep [8k\]: b is pro?
]
;W[gf]WL[1364.541]C[VitalY [9k\]: white is 3p
VitalY [9k\]: )))
]
;B[ii]BL[1041.056]C[kill [-\]: l9
annananos [4k\]: f8 alive?
VitalY [9k\]: mb it's why he plays like 3p? ;[
]
;W[kk]WL[1354.482]C[Sire [1k\]: c5
]
;B[jl]BL[1038.211]
;W[co]WL[1352.362]
;B[bq]BL[1034.754]
;W[cm]WL[1349.476]C[annananos [4k\]: ah right
]
;B[je]BL[1032.194]
;W[ge]WL[1346.567]C[gentil [4d\]: why it's a 6 handi game ?
Syptryn [5d?\]: what?
Start [1k\]: lol
Syptryn [5d?\]: stones???
puresimple [?\]: lol
DaoLin [3d?\]: because W wanted it like this
kill [-\]: this doesnt look good for b
Syptryn [5d?\]: 6 handi!??!?
]
;B[jf]BL[1009.068]C[Start [1k\]: ah here 6 handy
Onmyoji [5d?\]: weaker than 5p usually still make some amateur mistakes
gentil [4d\]: yes
Syptryn [5d?\]: I beat Korean 9p on 5 handi...
Start [1k\]: i think here only 3 :)
]
;W[bc]WL[1338.335]C[smartrobot [9d\]: ....
DaoLin [3d?\]: simultaneous I guess
atilla11 [3k\]: n7
Uberdude [3d?\]: k14 yose
smartrobot [9d\]: give a 6d 6 handi
loskajees [3k\]: smartrobot, any comment on the handi?
miao [6d\]: c18
Gay [5d\]: lol whats happening
sum [5d\]: KOR 9p H4 no chance
Uberdude [3d?\]: b needed to b14 or whatever
Mop [6k?\]: ouch, b dead top left, isn't he ?
]
;B[db]BL[981.702]C[annananos [4k\]: sacrifice the corner
sheeryjay [1k?\]: yeah, well, Li Ang plays handi games really well, he often plays teaching games on kgs with 1-2 handi more than should he have as 9d kgs and wins them almost always
]
;W[be]WL[1335.204]C[gentil [4d\]: 6 handi is  impossible
]
;B[bd]BL[979.208]
;W[ad]WL[1332.447]C[Right [7k?\]: if white lose that normal but if he win what a graet demonstration!!!(i think that the reason of 6 stones, white will never loose honour with a game like this, he cab just win)
]
;B[bf]BL[976.336]C[kill [-\]: ko
Start [1k\]: lets see what you will say when w will win
calefacto [2k\]: time for ko yes
Syptryn [5d?\]: SOdaharu 6d KGS beat Korean 9p on 2 Handi....
Twfno [-\]: nothing is impossible
Syptryn [5d?\]: granted it was simul
DaoLin [3d?\]: np, to beat pro in simuls, big thing to achieve s.th. 1-one-1
Gay [5d\]: i just dont see the point for this game?
Syptryn [5d?\]: but still
]
;W[af]WL[1308.541]C[Gay [5d\]: no way black wants 6handi game
kill [-\]: aguilar beat 9p evenly no?
DaoLin [3d?\]: simul doesnt count for ama's strength
fbp [6d\]: white lost already
]
;B[ce]BL[965.283]C[Gay [5d\]: for prize of winning a tournament
Right [7k?\]: yeah
loskajees [3k\]: long time ago kill
DaoLin [3d?\]: only for pro
sum [5d\]: twice
]
;W[bg]WL[1304.915]
;B[ae]BL[963.819]C[Right [7k?\]: agilar is a killer 9p
]
;W[kj]WL[1291.95]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: aguilar beat japanese 9p?
miao [6d\]: hehe
]
;B[jh]BL[953.704]
;W[be]WL[1288.04]C[Syptryn [5d?\]: I beat Jap 9p 1-1 on 3 handi
]
;B[el]BL[948.109]C[popplers: lyon playing a 6d with 6 hc just shows he doesnt play a good teaching game
Syptryn [5d?\]: no SImul
]
;W[em]WL[1282.94]
;B[ae]BL[946.439]
;W[lr]WL[1276.473]C[popplers: not a helpful one anyway
]
;B[kq]BL[940.154]C[Sandmann [5d\]: i beat someone on even who became pro 2 years later:o
]
;W[be]WL[1273.403]
;B[gk]BL[937.943]C[sheeryjay [1k?\]: Syptryn, I have seen several games of egf 4d (kgs 5d) lose against Korean 7d ex-insei ..
]
;W[gl]WL[1269.143]
;B[ae]BL[935.801]C[Gay [5d\]: lyon might be scared of losing an fair game?
sheeryjay [1k?\]: with 5 handi I mean
popplers: i dont think so gay
ben0 [6d\]: thx
mtkk [-\]: ...
Lyonweiqi [3p\]: GOOD GAME
DaoLin [3d?\]: Syp: still ? I also beat  pro on 5H in simul and 1-on-1, it doesn't count anything, for them its just friendly
hqta1 [8k\]: H6 ...
fbp [6d\]: lol
popplers: hes just weird
go1d [6d\]: lol
])
