(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[Benhu]PB[PeteLiu]WR[3p]BR[2p]DT[2009-01-31]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[PeteLiu [2p\]: hi
Zeldasan [3k\]: hohoho
nub [6d\]: hm
Firzen [2d\]: awesome
Novalys [5k\]: \\o/
Warfreak2 [4d\]: wooooo!
yithril [2d\]: yay chariot fight!
Zeldasan [3k\]: 2 professionnal game
Warfreak2 [4d\]: go peter
jungle [1d\]: argh
poivron [9k\]: ohhh yeaaaaah
Firzen [2d\]: Peter owns
septa [-\]: YAY!
jungle [1d\]: worst kibitz ever
Zombies [4d?\]: BRAINS!
yithril [2d\]: get him Ben hur!!!
manakem10 [4k\]: what is this?
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: hi
Benhu [3p\]: hi
Zeldasan [3k\]: that will be nice.
Vladd [-\]: yey
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[3550.431]C[jungle [1d\]: HOSHI
Skachkov [2k\]: good game
Nande [1d?\]: cool pete is playing
]
;W[dd]WL[3590.42]C[geoff25 [7k\]: ne iş lan
nub [6d\]: who do we root for?
Novalys [5k\]: good opening
Novalys [5k\]: :x
TooCute4u [?\]: oh my goodness so cool
simplet [3d\]: even game?
Ten [6d\]: Let's try to keep the kibitz at a good level, shall we?
dutch2dan [3d?\]: i'd root for peteliu
jungle [1d\]: -_-
JeffChang [9d\]: hi all ^^
TooCute4u [?\]: not even KGS plus
septa [-\]: cross opening please~
dutch2dan [3d?\]: hi jeff
Ten [6d\]: This should be an excellent opportunity to learn something
BagOfSand [3k\]: Ten: impossible
TooCute4u [?\]: hi Jeff
JeffChang [9d\]: This is a promotion game for "Experience Go in China 2009"
Firzen [2d\]: Jeff will ensure kibitz quality :)
nub [6d\]: both are american
simplet [3d\]: hi jeffchang :)
nub [6d\]: so ...
geoff25 [7k\]: funny
simplet [3d\]: ni hao
Ivar [7k\]: always root for the guy behind a few points
jeffywhite [3k\]: all right jeff
simplet [3d\]: da jia hao
JeffChang [9d\]: both Peter and Ben will be our teachers during this summer : )
pitirre [4k\]: quien es benhu y quien es peteliu?
Ten [6d\]: Firzen, it will be a shame if his comments drown in bad kibitz
JeffChang [9d\]: http://www.experience-go.com/index.htm
Firzen [2d\]: they are chinese
jungle [1d\]: d4 q4
JeffChang [9d\]: Welcome to join us then ^^
nub [6d\]: ok both non european
moyoAGA1k [1k\]: i think white just won w/ that move
nub [6d\]: :S
BagOfSand [3k\]: Ten: if you want good discussions, close the game and switch to moderated chat mode + only allod 4d+ to talk
cimarua [-\]: hi all
BagOfSand [3k\]: *clone
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: the next move is r4
Delita [4d\]: jeff should have bold font ;)
TooCute4u [?\]: 2 moves and already 200 viewers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Warfreak2 [4d\]: better make it 5d+
Firzen [2d\]: lol wf2
jungle [1d\]: c4
zima [3k\]: q3 better r4 
simplet [3d\]: i predict 1000+
TooCute4u [?\]: me too
Ten [6d\]: BagOfSand, I'll pretend I didn't read that :)
nub [6d\]: I'll collect 1€ from each of u :p
jungle [1d\]: why thinking on 3rd move
rhuin [10k\]: if this is go in china, will these use chinese opening?
Checkmate [2d\]: d-16 ... the losing move
Firzen [2d\]: because they are pro, and don't rely on fixed patterns
TooCute4u [?\]: haha
marsuplami [3k?\]: clearly
]
;B[qp]BL[3410.597]C[hsdbgfh [4k?\]: yay
zima [3k\]: =)
TooCute4u [?\]: oh my god  R4 ! 
marsuplami [3k?\]: resign
jungle [1d\]: hsdbgfh is god
Ten [6d\]: Looking for a mini Chinese or a shimari?
nub [6d\]: haha
rausku [-\]: revolutionary?
Firzen [2d\]: I'm calling mini chinese
Airi [2d\]: w pro
dutch2dan [3d?\]: w e3?
Novalys [5k\]: I'd prefere mini chinese :)
jungle [1d\]: P4 NOW
BagOfSand [3k\]: Ten: what did i tell you? ;)
manakem10 [4k\]: d4 - p3
TooCute4u [?\]: mini chinese   vs  chinese
jungle [1d\]: destroying all patterns
nub [6d\]: P4 too godly
simplet [3d\]: i neither :),and though i am weak
Airi [2d\]: d4 
floating [2k\]: url to mini chinese ?
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: w play d3
zima [3k\]: d4 
dutch2dan [3d?\]: e3...
jungle [1d\]: tenuki
Novalys [5k\]: Jungle :)
cloud [1d\]: d3
Firzen [2d\]: google for mao tsetung, wil give you small chinese
profi [1d\]: p4 
nub [6d\]: pass
guerecon [2k\]: whoa
JeffChang [9d\]: they played cautiously both : )
]
;W[dq]WL[3519.335]C[tronopolis [7k\]: z 22¡
PeteLiu [2p\]: seems lag
Diogenes [11k\]: everyone who thinks he might say something instructive, write with CAPS pls
PogoGo [3k\]: schenkelklopfer, firzen
Novalys [5k\]: D5 and avalanche \\o/
nub [6d\]: lol
TooCute4u [?\]: wow !
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: 2
jungle [1d\]: WHO IS HSDBGFH
nub [6d\]: we talk so much, the game is lagging :p
]
;B[oq]BL[3394.21]C[TooCute4u [?\]: D3  the divine move !
gootik [1d\]: this will take a long time
Novalys [5k\]: nooo : /
brivton [1k\]: OMG Benhu PeteLiu and Poivron are here !!
]
;W[co]WL[3512.101]
;B[qj]BL[3392.661]C[guerecon [2k\]: pro game on KGS  what is happening??
GoShinobi [-\]: please up from now only jeff speaks 
jungle [1d\]: boring game
]
;W[jp]WL[3504.355]C[Ten [6d\]: Interesting game already
pebarefoot [-\]: is there a pro commented game window for this game as there have been for these in the past ?
Novalys [5k\]: C5 ? I thought i was bad for white to let black finish his shape
cloud [1d\]: yeah this opening is no fun
]
;B[nc]BL[3378.673]C[nub [6d\]: catalin is playing the same way as b
pitirre [4k\]: strange move
]
;W[fc]WL[3494.634]
;B[jd]BL[3377.58]C[TooCute4u [?\]: it's TOO PEACEFULL
jungle [1d\]: looks like a corener enclosure explanation bord
choinon [?\]: c10
pitirre [4k\]: is that usual
jungle [1d\]: is that serious
PogoGo [3k\]: tengen!
cherisse [2k\]: c10 =_=
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: none of these moves are strange
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: d10
TooCute4u [?\]: INVASION PLZ !
JeffChang [9d\]: hehe, seems to be a peaceful game like this
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: they are all reasonable
JeffChang [9d\]: but
jungle [1d\]: K10 -_-
JeffChang [9d\]: as I know
Borat [2d\]: I don't get them, thinking on the first 4 moves and now speeding up
dutch2dan [3d?\]: p10?
simplet [3d\]: hmm why no give each of them a board lol
rausku [-\]: is dat sum reverse mirror?
JeffChang [9d\]: they are both bloody players :D
mychew [?\]: >.,"
Novalys [5k\]: P5 
Delita [4d\]: this kinid of games is hard to play for me
mychew [?\]: >.<"
TooCute4u [?\]: i see ^ ^'
pebarefoot [-\]: ahh , there's Jeff !
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: yes these games are much harder than you think
cherisse [2k\]: they seem to want to split the board in two!
pebarefoot [-\]: thx
guerecon [2k\]: already 300 viewers
Ten [6d\]: Jeff, maybe we'll get a moyo game which ends in a terrible fight :)
JeffChang [9d\]: so I'm sure there will be huge fightings later still
jungle [1d\]: S4 LOL
Mohican [1k\]: they both try to stay calm i think, till one of them gets greedy
cloud [1d\]: d10 would complete the ultimate boredom
ThisHeat [-\]: oo why this game???^
Daoloth [-\]: this needs tengen
GoShinobi [-\]: peope please let jeff speak 
twintom [6k\]: tengen
jungle [1d\]: white ahead
nub [6d\]: he can speak
GoShinobi [-\]: and shut up
JeffChang [9d\]: Ten:  I hope not, we're good friends , so don't wanna fight with you :D
mstarsup5 [3d\]: tengen : p
JeffChang [9d\]: we should fight on beer :D
TooCute4u [?\]: it's like 100 comments for one move  
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: c11 maybe
rausku [-\]: mm beer
Ten [6d\]: Haha, I sort of didn't mean it like that :)
simplet [3d\]: they dont want to heart ones arm going too far put stones
jungle [1d\]: k11
cherisse [2k\]: free beer! c[  \]
JeffChang [9d\]: hehe I know :D
pebarefoot [-\]: igtnore the idiots Jeff !
rausku [-\]: beer fight!
jungle [1d\]: c[  \] for me
Ten [6d\]: Beer would be okay, though
]
;W[mq]WL[3389]C[JeffChang [9d\]: ^^ nice
cherisse [2k\]: they are not drunk enough for this game
choinon [?\]: sure c10
Firzen [2d\]: I wonder if Peter is singing again while he plays :)
]
;B[eo]BL[3362.471]C[Delita [4d\]: interesting move
Novalys [5k\]: C11
wgarwhat [4k\]: b has a long zone
jungle [1d\]: nice
pebarefoot [-\]: ahhh !
Ten [6d\]: N3's not a move that I would play
Firzen [2d\]: I've never seen him play serious :)
choinon [?\]: ^_^
TooCute4u [?\]: B AHEAD   NO DOUBT
JeffChang [9d\]: ah it starts : )
dutch2dan [3d?\]: in the morning, Ten? oh, i forgot, u r finnish :)
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: e5??//
rausku [-\]: f4 ?
JeffChang [9d\]: the fight may come soon, I suppose
nub [6d\]: e5 is special
Novalys [5k\]: F4 or C6
Mohican [1k\]: f4?
jungle [1d\]: usual
Firzen [2d\]: e5 is standart
Goprince [3d\]: black might leave his as a probe
Novalys [5k\]: D6 sorry xD
OBM [5d\]: 9d, with the left till wide open, isn't E5 too early?
cherisse [2k\]: e5 timing :)
Daoloth [-\]: black K10, seriously
simplet [3d\]: not finnish yet,just the beginning
JeffChang [9d\]: http://www.experience-go.com/index.htm, Peter 2p, Ben 3p, Jack 2p and I will be teachers 
Airi [2d\]: b strong
jungle [1d\]: they got american names
Novalys [5k\]: :)
Javaness [-\]: are they real pros?
honsan2 [9k\]: 职业
rausku [-\]: oh, so this is advertising?
TooCute4u [?\]: 350 viewers !
JeffChang [9d\]: If you're interested, please check out our website, or contact me directly, thanks : )
pebarefoot [-\]: OBM , preperation for the left invasion ? perhaps ?
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: lol
Novalys [5k\]: lol java ;)
Ten [6d\]: Rausku, in its purest form
OBM [5d\]: OK.
GoShinobi [-\]: java means activce pro i think 
pebarefoot [-\]: funny squirrel
Beldur [1d?\]: Is it possible to be pro/2
OBM [5d\]: BUt w may not let b slip away
rhuin [10k\]: Jeff you put the comma as part of the link
spherical [5k\]: java, please keep your comments to the game
rhuin [10k\]: stupid people wont understand
Javaness [-\]: sorry, prople always asak that
Mikki62 [3k\]: not so easy to read
]
;W[ep]WL[3279.313]C[simplet [3d\]: i prefer salsa
OBM [5d\]: a move such as E4
Mohican [1k\]: i always wondered, e5 is a nice move for black, but a proverb says, your enemy's vital point is your own also, but white playing e5 instead doesn't look very promising?
simplet [3d\]: but java is ok
mychew [?\]: Javaness, programming?
Medice [-\]: white does sometimes play e5
Medice [-\]: but he should have a move around c11 first
TooCute4u [?\]: e4 interesting
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: better than it looks mohican
mychew [?\]: so white want the territory below and let black invade on the left?
jungle [1d\]: i like white
TooCute4u [?\]: i like pro games =D
]
;B[do]BL[3311.96]C[Delita [4d\]: i never played e4 move i believe..
jungle [1d\]: D4
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: no c4
Ten [6d\]: I think I like black
rausku [-\]: c6
Ten [6d\]: But that may change when this corner is finished
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: fight
simplet [3d\]: c6
honsan3 [6k\]: hi
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: c6 overplayish
coldnight [2k\]: I Like pizza
Delita [4d\]: c4 looks natural
]
;W[cn]WL[3241.524]C[jungle [1d\]: c6 works
Mohican [1k\]: ohh
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
]
;B[fp]BL[3306.56]C[Prodigious [6d?\]: Isn't C6 the usual move?
]
;W[dp]WL[3236.182]C[mychew [?\]: i like double cheese burger
Suvi [1d\]: forget the food
rausku [-\]: wat
Delita [4d\]: g5?
peninoule [14k\]: i like pizza too
Mohican [1k\]: this looks better for white than for black
Askas [11k\]: empty triangle 
TooCute4u [?\]: G5 !
JeffChang [9d\]: Prodigious:  they both want a lot, that's it : )
jungle [1d\]: yes
honsan3 [6k\]:  hei zen me yin
Novalys [5k\]: h5
JeffChang [9d\]: I won't play C6 either ^^
cloud [1d\]: how can b play light here?
tronopolis [7k\]: f3
oda [8k\]: I want blood :(
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: f3 looks overplay
Ten [6d\]: Doesn't seem very easy for black to settle his group
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: f5
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: should fix
Borat [2d\]: Go get a knife and cut yourself thne
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: or f3
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: g5 looks good
Mohican [1k\]: he has to fix..
saimic [4k\]: f3
jungle [1d\]: nao hong tan yun ^^ (-_-)
honsan3 [6k\]: G5......................
cloud [1d\]: g5 looks heavy to me
Mohican [1k\]: and white has sente + easy target
snowman [-\]: f5, me thinks
sixsix [-\]: H4 maybe
calgacus [-\]: g5 now
]
;B[hp]BL[3230.43]C[wgarwhat [4k\]: can these b stone be treated lightly?
choinon [?\]: h4
Mohican [1k\]: ohh
Mohican [1k\]: lightly
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: h4?
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: nice
honsan3 [6k\]: 缓手了会 能交换 吗
rausku [-\]: haengma ? :P
Delita [4d\]: looks ok
t0Strong4u [-\]: nice sixsix
Mohican [1k\]: white should cut?
pebarefoot [-\]: ahhh !
Firzen [2d\]: no floating horse here rausku
meuns [3k\]: F5 is really big now
jungle [1d\]: CUT
Checkmate [2d\]: hm does google classify every web page as malware currently?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes
rausku [-\]: yes
jungle [1d\]: yes checkmate
t0Strong4u [-\]: yeah
Ukoku [6k?\]: why?
Mohican [1k\]: black g5 is too good no
Mohican [1k\]: now
cloud [1d\]: cut would only help black
lenson90 [23k\]: yes
JeffChang [9d\]: b has the ambition to attack w bttom 2 stones, obviously
JeffChang [9d\]: bottom*
wgarwhat [4k\]: checkmate: yes
cloudo [6k\]: how to switch on moderated chat mode? ...
t0Strong4u [-\]: clone
Megaphone: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@			JeffChang [9d\]: b has the ambition to attack w bttom 2 stones, obviously
troII: the internet has been infected!
Novalys [5k\]: Jeff you're misreading, H4 is to prepare the san san invasion of C17 :D
]
;W[iq]WL[3171.861]C[DuelX [3k\]: troll warlord
]
;B[fn]BL[3226.024]C[Ten [6d\]: Heh, white noticed black's ambition
PAG2 [-\]: I think our friends the admin will become less lenient very soon :)
JeffChang [9d\]: :D
]
;W[jn]WL[3154.421]C[falfan1 [5k\]: hahaha
Firzen [2d\]: Pag2: Oh noes they might kick java :P
falfan1 [5k\]:                                                                                                                                            .
jungle [1d\]: strange i see no bold
TooCute4u [?\]: I like the option 3 of the program
falfan1 [5k\]:                                                                                                                                                                             .
manakem10 [4k\]: Passing 400 spectators
Ten [6d\]: This looks quite nice for white
Delita [4d\]: i agree
cloud [1d\]: d8?
pebarefoot [-\]: who is a 5k telling Mr Chang that he is misreading ?
Mohican [1k\]: nice shape by both
manakem10 [4k\]: Still becoming more
pebarefoot [-\]: lol
Warfreak2 [4d\]: a comedian, barefoot
miao [5d\]: go b
pebarefoot [-\]: no doubt
ThisHeat [-\]: ten pls: r16 or s4 better or both bad ? :)
]
;B[bd]BL[3162.104]C[Disruption [12k\]: it was just a joke i think
manakem10 [4k\]: The 5k is Mr.Chang´s teacher
gryn [2d?\]: what prejudice pebarefoot
manakem10 [4k\]: :-)))
jungle [1d\]: the 5k wasnt wrong
Airi [2d\]: lol
Mikki62 [3k\]: oh... novalys... right!
Novalys [5k\]: yep
uaHUAHUHUA: wow
Plubo [11k\]: haha
Novalys [5k\]: i'm the best
DuelX [3k\]: u r
Novalys [5k\]: I'm huge sanbagger
DuelX [3k\]: zz
DuelX [3k\]: lol
Novalys [5k\]: But don't tell anyone
Plubo [11k\]: that was capital
Ten [6d\]: ThisHeat, they aren't maybe so critical right now
ThisHeat [-\]: hehe ok^
Ten [6d\]: Left side is still quite open
PAG2 [-\]: Will indeed be funny to see who is the first kyu who will tell us that one of the players made a mistake :) .. I can bet there'll be at least one
pebarefoot [-\]: please , I did no mean to provoke such a convo
oda [8k\]: zomg mistake
Novalys [5k\]: lool pag
Warfreak2 [4d\]: d16 mistake
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: c17?
wgarwhat [4k\]: b greedy?
jungle [1d\]: HAHA
Warfreak2 [4d\]: wait i'm not a kyu any more :-(
Novalys [5k\]: deep inside you'll always feel your kyu
cloudo [6k\]: so be quiet the next time
Delita [4d\]: Ilike b16
Locks [5k\]: feeling nostalgic warfreak?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i preferred it when i was expected to make stupid comments
Novalys [5k\]: B14 in this case instead of C6 ?
rats [2k?\]: heh.. novalys move guess was actually quite close
]
;W[cd]WL[3049.09]C[DuelX [3k\]: warhammer
miao [5d\]: id j8 maybe
Novalys [5k\]: C16*
Firzen [2d\]: beeing a kyu is more fun :) alot of crazy stuff won'T happen in dan-games as likely :P
Novalys [5k\]: ok no b14 : /
]
;B[cf]BL[3152.262]C[Mohican [1k\]: ohhhh
miao [5d\]: lol move
Mohican [1k\]: never saw this move before
]
;W[be]WL[3036.126]C[JeffChang [9d\]: oh funny
huyhuy [3d\]: pro move ?
Ten [6d\]: E5 looks like a stable group right now, but if I was black and white played g5, I would surely crumble
DuelX [3k\]: misclick?
Airi [2d\]: misclick
JeffChang [9d\]: never thought about this keima
cloud [1d\]: w moves seem very aggressive
Airi [2d\]: lol
rats [2k?\]: buzz... *flies around
]
;B[bf]BL[3130.625]C[miao [5d\]: hm
]
;W[bc]WL[3030.622]C[ennuistic [1d\]: it looks ordinary?
]
;B[cj]BL[3128.805]C[miao [5d\]: b better no?
Novalys [5k\]: Now F6 will have its base
jeffywhite [3k\]: cood
jungle [1d\]: pro move.
jeffywhite [3k\]: but
miao [5d\]: hm
]
;W[hn]WL[3018.94]C[Firzen [2d\]: why is black dividing up the space I always thought that'd be whites strategy
]
;B[gn]BL[3121.298]C[jeffywhite [3k\]: why dosnt white play c19
]
;W[hm]WL[3015.733]C[LeFourBe [4d\]: S16 seem urgent
jeffywhite [3k\]: i mean c 10
manakem10 [4k\]: B16 no pro move - its standard technique
cloud [1d\]: r15? or is tenuki bad..
jungle [1d\]: c14
gryn [2d?\]: how can a move like s16 be *urgent*.
Locks [5k\]: well, b15 is more standard
Novalys [5k\]: They were talking about B14
Ten [6d\]: The c14 keima is interesting, yeah
choinon [?\]: g8?
GoShinobi [-\]: manakem they talk of c14
calgacus [-\]: b seems to have used up a lot of aji already
JeffChang [9d\]: normally B15 extend, sure
Ten [6d\]: Yeah
honsan3 [6k\]: E9
Megaphone: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@		  JeffChang [9d\]: normally B15 extend, sure
Ten [6d\]: This gives white more points, but black got the nice three space extension as well
Locks [5k\]: well, i mean b15 instead of b16
DuelX [3k\]: ...
miao [5d\]: i like what ever b did there :D
JeffChang [9d\]: yes
Locks [5k\]: but this result isn't half bad
wilder [2k\]: would think b would want to connect his two groups with d7 or something
Airi [2d\]: megaphone...
jungle [1d\]: megaphone xD
rausku [-\]: megaphone, what are you doing?
gryn [2d?\]: trolling
rhuin [10k\]: megaphone is making it easier to see the REAL comments
ennuistic [1d\]: r15 seems pretty big.
Airi [2d\]: being a megaphone
wilder [2k\]: looks too good if w can split them up by playing d8
DuelX [3k\]: troll warlord
JeffChang [9d\]: until now I personally prefer w
honsan3 [6k\]: E9
rhuin [10k\]: not troll at all
manakem10 [4k\]: he is gone to the WC
honsan3 [6k\]: E(\\9
ennuistic [1d\]: probably f9 or something though.
JeffChang [9d\]: more solid points ^^
Firzen [2d\]: because you like secure territory jeff :P
twintom [6k\]: w more solid
Novalys [5k\]: W can P5 too then :p
JeffChang [9d\]: yeah :D
pebarefoot [-\]: it does appear that I was correct in saying that e5 was a preparation for invading the left side
qgo [3k\]:  
Ten [6d\]: I don't care very much about solid points in the beginning, but I do prefer white as well :)
honsan3 [6k\]: ...E9
iPwnNoobs [3k\]: i like moyo so b looks intimidating
TooCute4u [?\]: i prefer w too
pebarefoot [-\]: lol , get lucky sometimes
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: c8 seems good
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i like w, not because of territory, but because i will fight on left side and kill :-D
gryn [2d?\]: i perfer white because white always wins :)
Novalys [5k\]: you are not w
Novalys [5k\]: :p
rhuin [10k\]: they boot the megaphone? :(
Ten [6d\]: Black needs to sacrifice something to make his stones work together on the left side
Locks [5k\]: black does not like the idea of running out with this group
honsan3 [6k\]: F9
Beldur [1d?\]: I like w because w gets strong by attacking and then can lay waste to blacks right side
honsan3 [6k\]: E9
Daoloth [-\]: b will probably play something simple like d8 
gryn [2d?\]: black has a hair-do appointment
Novalys [5k\]: The best move is always the best
Locks [5k\]: might give white too much support for invasions...
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: d8 feels a little thin
TooCute4u [?\]: sacrifice ? 
choinon [?\]: f8 and s16\]
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: 39 seems more nautral
honsan3 [6k\]: D8?
ghkghj: Admin made clear to me, no megaphoning jeff's comments.
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: e9
honsan3 [6k\]: F9/E9
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: f9
Borat [2d\]: Its these kinda situations where i can't find a good move  :(
cloud [1d\]: r15
JeffChang [9d\]: I guess b will wanna live locally directly
TooCute4u [?\]: Ten   how B can sacrifice something on the left ?
JeffChang [9d\]: so something like G3/ G2 is my guessing for next move
sixsix [-\]: maybe H2?
gryn [2d?\]: so g3 then then.
ThisHeat [-\]: b schould not tenuki , or?
choinon [?\]: f8 and after s16
JeffChang [9d\]: no
JeffChang [9d\]: better to live directly
rausku [-\]: can b afford not to play around f9 ?
Novalys [5k\]: Jeff, not better to get out ,
Novalys [5k\]: ?
JeffChang [9d\]: to avoid serious attacking next
Delita [4d\]: g2
Novalys [5k\]: Ah ok
Novalys [5k\]: Thanks :)
honsan3 [6k\]: G3 G2太小了
oda [8k\]: wow keep megaphoning
JeffChang [9d\]: hehe, outside is meaningless though
jungle [1d\]: g2 looks strange
miao [5d\]: i like g2 or e10
honsan3 [6k\]: 会落缓手
timewarp [3k\]: Sorry, is this a tournamnet game or a free game?
ennuistic [1d\]: thats true.. outside is meaningless.
cloud [1d\]: i always tenuki too much : (
Locks [5k\]: so one of those few times that bunkering down and living is the better choice?
Borat [2d\]: Advertising game
TooCute4u [?\]: honsan   wo men ting bu dong
mike2096 [4k\]: this is a game to promote trip to china
gryn [2d?\]: honsan, but this keeps white from attacking both black groups
honsan3 [6k\]: 这样白还不如去找更大的地方
JeffChang [9d\]: well just I guess, if I were b, I'd go G3/G2, probably G2 I think
JeffChang [9d\]: also big
timewarp [3k\]: okay, thanks
carbon729 [2d\]: C8 is not good?
Novalys [5k\]: it's unique tournament, with only two players and one round =)
Novalys [5k\]: uhuh
Buburuza [8k\]: how come 2 proffesional go players are playing on kgs?
pitirre [4k\]: is anyone from puerto rico here?
t0Strong4u [-\]: promotion game
hik34 [18k\]: k10
gryn [2d?\]: bub, they forgot about IGS.
lakin [5k\]: what does ting mean?
Buburuza [8k\]: uuuu
iiigor [11k\]: will the game be analyzed afterwards?
honsan3 [6k\]: 黑不能下h3和2不然就是乖乖听话
Buburuza [8k\]: =)
jungle [1d\]: what is puerto rico
hik34 [18k\]: sur
twintom [6k\]: but b has reduced w here so he can go on
ghkghj: Oda: i cannot megaphone again, got booted once already, will probably get ban next time ^^ and i dont wanna spamfight the admins in here ^^
]
;B[gr]BL[2797.824]C[ThisHeat [-\]: puerto rico is a boardgame
jungle [1d\]: damn
lakin [5k\]: 听？
MaxMakinen [5k\]: Buburuza, promotion game for http://www.experience-go.com/ probobly :)
Novalys [5k\]: Jeff CHang is the best
Zairex [4k\]: nice call Jeff :)
JeffChang [9d\]: :D
miao [5d\]: yey
OBM [5d\]: jeff, if b lives loally, then how shoudld w approach right side?
JeffChang [9d\]: thanks ^^
Locks [5k\]: anybody willing to clone and moderate this in the teaching ladder?
Firzen [2d\]: jeff strong
Novalys [5k\]: And this lives ?
rausku [-\]: are they reading this chat.. :PP
iouzip [5k\]: B wants life
iouzip [5k\]: yeah
oda [8k\]: puerto rico is a country
]
;W[rd]WL[2991.879]C[OBM [5d\]: R16, 15 or P10?
Nikkentobi [3d?\]: nice call!!
ennuistic [1d\]: big.
OBM [5d\]: too late:-)
choinon [?\]: yea
Ten [6d\]: And there comes s16, yeah
choinon [?\]: s16
jungle [1d\]: LEFOURBE
Delita [4d\]: I live for the moments like this, where i guess next pro moves...
Delita [4d\]: move*
ennuistic [1d\]: r15 only, but it sucks.
GoShinobi [-\]: s14 ?
honsan3 [6k\]: 我就是吗百
cloud [1d\]: keima bad this time =P
Warfreak2 [4d\]: delita, me too - at least i'm right 1/361 of the time
JeffChang [9d\]: http://www.experience-go.com/index.htm
ennuistic [1d\]: so then r17?
OBM [5d\]: I thought with the present of R10, S15 is better than s16??
Novalys [5k\]: [puerto rico is the secret governmental lab where they created the two lethal weapons J Lo and Ricky martin\]
niark [1k\]: s14 
JeffChang [9d\]: This is a promotion game for "Experience Go in China 2009"
Borat [2d\]: ;o, i never play s16 .. just r16 . hmm
JeffChang [9d\]: Peter, Ben, Jack Jin 2p and I will be the teachers
Novalys [5k\]: Go S14 this time, because i never see anyone playing it :p
JeffChang [9d\]: hopefully to enjoy with you guys in China during summer ^^
TooCute4u [?\]: http://www.experience-go.com/pricing.htm   :::::> option 3 : cool :D
snowman [-\]: revenge!
honsan3 [6k\]: 黑不下R17的话因该会托先
OBM [5d\]: When should use S16?  When should use S15, or r16?
Delita [4d\]: r16 simply?
maytrang [3k\]: R16
nidza92 [-\]: both weak
honsan3 [6k\]: 我想下R17也不太可能
OBM [5d\]: When should use S16?  When should use S15, or r16?
Delita [4d\]: good question OBM
jungle [1d\]: R15
TooCute4u [?\]: wo xiang xia R17 ye bu tai keneng
guerecon [2k\]: 500 viewers
ennuistic [1d\]: probably good to force white to live low on the outside maybe.
honsan3 [6k\]: r16不就落后了
Novalys [5k\]: Other good question is when to use S14 T_T
ennuistic [1d\]: r15 might give away too much territory.
]
;B[qd]BL[2646.011]C[pebarefoot [-\]: it sounds like an excellent deal JeffChang and many of us here will reap the benefits
Firzen [2d\]: fight ^^
ennuistic [1d\]: just forces white to choose.
OBM [5d\]: I feel like with the presence of K16 and R10, w should have S15
Firzen [2d\]: s17 too small for w I think
ThisHeat [-\]: always the bumb?
kuikentje [1k\]: is s14 ever a good move? :p s14 feels like making your opponent live in the corner, without properly enclosing the group (except in gote)
jungle [1d\]: r14
Zombies [4d?\]: s15 for outside, too big to enclose. s16 for black choice, corner or outside, and r16 to maintain sente
OBM [5d\]: S16 is good when K16 is white
PAG2 [-\]: If I could afford one month holidays, I would definitely join.. this deal is a steal..  sad that work doesn't allow me to take more than 1 week off at a time
ennuistic [1d\]: if white is ahead on territory, s17 is better.
choinon [?\]: s15 sure
ennuistic [1d\]: i don't think he is though.
jungle [1d\]: haha
choinon [?\]: ^^_^^
JeffChang [9d\]: oh misclick?
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: lol
ennuistic [1d\]: eh?
Jaiyk [?\]: hax
ennuistic [1d\]: lol.
niark [1k\]: ^^
jungle [1d\]: ∆_∆
Firzen [2d\]: takebacksuji ^^
Novalys [5k\]: no misclick, just ghost move
Benhu [3p\]: sorry,misclick
Novalys [5k\]: :x
TooCute4u [?\]: ∆_∆
TooCute4u [?\]: ∆_∆
TooCute4u [?\]: ∆_∆
honsan3 [6k\]: 这黑有外势
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: :\]
PeteLiu [2p\]: np
kuikentje [1k\]: huh?
OBM [5d\]: thi time defeinitely not R14
pitirre [4k\]: is there any new features in IGS? havent played there for a long time
choinon [?\]: s15 now\]
macgill [3k\]: 507 persons ?!
LoveShania [8k\]: so its misclick
jungle [1d\]: igs is dead
]
(;W[re]WL[2947.002]C[pitirre [4k\]: really?
choinon [?\]: yea
pitirre [4k\]: wow
rhuin [10k\]: WAit, what did white play
]
;B[rc]BL[2628.116]C[nidza92 [-\]: w is not confident in his moves
rhuin [10k\]: that was misclick?
Bonge [-\]: what about igs ?
LoveShania [8k\]: =_=
choinon [?\]: r12 or r13
OBM [5d\]: S18 or not?
TooCute4u [?\]: ∆_∆
JeffChang [9d\]: ah ok
Celila [-\]: toocute, don't flood, thank you 
Checkmate [2d\]: decline the undo and then escape ;)
JeffChang [9d\]: finally they played normal moves : )
Warfreak2 [4d\]: sometimes you hover the mouse over a move you're considering, but accidentally click before you have finished thinking
Warfreak2 [4d\]: especially on a touchpad
Delita [4d\]: I also wonder if s18 now is ok
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: seems hard for w
Delita [4d\]: probably ok
pitirre [4k\]: so IGS is close, since when?
Firzen [2d\]: s18 doesn'T seem to work even
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's not impossible to make such a misclick
ennuistic [1d\]: should squeeze right?
LoveShania [8k\]: they both save self-esteem
choinon [?\]: i think r13 good move
Delita [4d\]: it is played for aji
OBM [5d\]: This local shape is one of those that I am clueless
ennuistic [1d\]: not good to defend corner aji
TooCute4u [?\]: R12 now
Jaiyk [?\]: r12 any good?
Borat [2d\]: thats why i don't like s16, white either gets attacked or very low
ennuistic [1d\]: make white escape.
ennuistic [1d\]: r12 too far
Novalys [5k\]: r12 isthe usual move
ennuistic [1d\]: should play something closer to s15 stones.
ennuistic [1d\]: i don't think so..
Novalys [5k\]: It is
ennuistic [1d\]: maybe seven s13
Zombies [4d?\]: s18
jungle [1d\]: tenuki
TooCute4u [?\]: R12 ok
Delita [4d\]: well, if w playit i guess its ok if not, than.. its not ok :P
honsan3 [6k\]: S10
Novalys [5k\]: Maybe T15 ennuistic ?
DangoMango [7k\]: q3
ennuistic [1d\]: t15?
TooCute4u [?\]: S18 bad
chucknoris [1k?\]: this very bored.. i think the kgs need put shines and fire in each pro moves of stones..
macgill [3k\]: anybody recommend some weiqi website?
Firzen [2d\]: pasz 500 observers
Novalys [5k\]: .i don't know maybe it's close enough
pitirre [4k\]: and what about cyberoro?
ennuistic [1d\]: i think s13.
Jaiyk [?\]: shines and fire, lol
jungle [1d\]: t15 is tetris
Medice [-\]: s18 is prretty standard
jungle [1d\]: not go
ennuistic [1d\]: force white to run.
OBM [5d\]: I believe w should have played S15, not S16, when thre is R10 there
Timely: yeah chuck!
OBM [5d\]: But I am just 5d
choinon [?\]: r12 good more r13
cloud [1d\]: r12 seems ok to me
t0Strong4u [-\]: I agree OBM
Manudu92 [4k\]: s13 slow
Novalys [5k\]: go R12 \\o/
DangoMango [7k\]: r11
Firzen [2d\]: s13 seems way too small
DangoMango [7k\]: s10
jungle [1d\]: s4 bruce lee style
sixsix [-\]: could Q14, but seems heavy
ganuong [3d\]: s18 first
Endurance [7k?\]: a 16 more urgent
sixsix [-\]: maybe Q11 instead
Airi [2d\]: at flyordie.com there are cool effects when stones are played or killed etc 
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;W[rb]WL[2758.345]C[Firzen [2d\]: q14 directly seems suicide
Delita [4d\]: so OBM, s18 is ok ;)
LoveShania [8k\]: O_O
jungle [1d\]: a16 is psychological move
Jaiyk [?\]: I wonder if 8d's say "I'd do X, but I'm just 8d"
Zombies [4d?\]: s18 natural
TooCute4u [?\]: R17
cherisse [2k\]: s18 really?
wgarwhat [4k\]: jeffchang, in the experience china program, will there be written material or da you have to remember the teachings by head
Firzen [2d\]: jeff does that sometimes apparently :P
Zombies [4d?\]: because of p16 aji
jungle [1d\]: jeff is only 9d
JeffChang [9d\]: so far I still love w ^^
rausku [-\]: what's wrong with t17 ?
DangoMango [7k\]: omg jeffchang against pro
Novalys [5k\]: Then w takes corner
DangoMango [7k\]: who wins?
Novalys [5k\]: ^
]
;B[qc]BL[2563.526]C[Zombies [4d?\]: t17 is fine
honsan3 [6k\]: T17
ghkghj: o18 evil aji if t17
Novalys [5k\]: T17 is not fine
]
;W[qh]WL[2750.492]C[Zombies [4d?\]: unless you don't want the aji
Borat [2d\]: I'll love w if he manages to settle this nicely, because so far, i've never gotten anything satisfying from s16
JeffChang [9d\]: wgarwhat:  you can record the content of the teachers' lectures on your laptop, srue ^^
JeffChang [9d\]: sure*
t0Strong4u [-\]: what's wrong with t17 Novalys?
wgarwhat [4k\]: thx
TooCute4u [?\]: i was right   R17  hehe   
]
;B[rg]BL[2544.868]C[ghkghj: @@@  o18 evil aji if t17  @@@
JeffChang [9d\]: ^^
Firzen [2d\]: tostong4u, it creates too much aji
Novalys [5k\]: It make big aji for white in the corner
mstarsup5 [3d\]: novalys: T17 ok
GoShinobi [-\]: no 
Novalys [5k\]: And if white has a stone at m17
OBM [5d\]: FSeveral books showed the sequence of playing S15 when b has R10, I like that a lot
Firzen [2d\]: s13 = powerplay?
GoShinobi [-\]: much ayji and sente move
Novalys [5k\]: Then the corner is white's
jungle [1d\]: s13 usual
OBM [5d\]: much better result for w than sht one
urknall [10k\]: r14
t0Strong4u [-\]: yeah I would have s15 too
calgacus [-\]: b does not seem in a good frame of mind for this game.
TooCute4u [?\]: B  very violent
JeffChang [9d\]: hmm
honsan3 [6k\]: T13
JeffChang [9d\]: does b just wanna capture the 2 stones
JeffChang [9d\]: ?
TooCute4u [?\]: seems so ^ ^
t0Strong4u [-\]: nah
ennuistic [1d\]: i think black just want to cause trouble
sixsix [-\]: probably wants the points
]
;W[rh]WL[2662.479]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: i want to capture all :-)
Firzen [2d\]: b wants to take the base and fight immo
ennuistic [1d\]: this is bad for black i think.
]
;B[qg]BL[2534.881]C[hsdbgfh [4k?\]: looks impassable for w
JeffChang [9d\]: Peter normally has bigger goal than this though ^^
OBM [5d\]: b will suffer some bad shapes
]
;W[pg]WL[2658.181]
;B[qf]BL[2534.133]
;W[pi]WL[2655.65]
;B[pk]BL[2533.377]C[OBM [5d\]: here you go
Mikki62 [3k\]: jeff.... you also provide single rooms?
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol 2p wants only two stones? c'mon jeff
missbear [5d\]: could any one tell me what the special event is?
cloud [1d\]: i like this for white
ganuong [3d\]: promotion
OBM [5d\]: a bear party
Bonge [-\]: i like black better
TooCute4u [?\]: http://www.experience-go.com/pricing.htm ∆_∆
Firzen [2d\]: I prefer black
danigabi [5d\]: the "book move" is usually p11 rather than q11
OBM [5d\]: all boy bears
JeffChang [9d\]: Mikki62: yes, however in that case extra payment is required
DangoMango [7k\]: white should resign
jungle [1d\]: honinbo final game
Novalys [5k\]: i still think that T17 was no good here
ganuong [3d\]:  the promotion game of "Experience Go in China 2009" will start now, it's between Benhu 3p and Peteliu 2p.
ghkghj: Why oh why cant admins give Jeff temporary BOLD for comments -.-
choinon [?\]: r7?
rausku [-\]: yes, welcome to 30 minutes ago ganuong ;)
DangoMango [7k\]: B + R
missbear [5d\]: I c,thank you
ennuistic [1d\]: already?
t0Strong4u [-\]: q14 first?
Mikki62 [3k\]: big difference?
TooCute4u [?\]: ghkghj   that's a good idea
cloud [1d\]: man i wish we had a megaphone or something..
ennuistic [1d\]: q14 aji keshi i think.
danigabi [5d\]: Jeff
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: r7 for aji
ghkghj: cloud i was a megaphone until i got booted
ennuistic [1d\]: just leave this shape might be good.
danigabi [5d\]: wouldnt it have been better to play like this? : r14 s14 r13 s13 s12 p10 ?
PAG2 [-\]: I don't think you can give "temporary" admin rights to somebody.. 
choinon [?\]: r7 or q7
Korea4K [2d\]: P9
ennuistic [1d\]: white needs to start some trouble around r7 too.
DangoMango [7k\]: p12
OBM [5d\]: Ideal students will be young KGS 5k, naive and curious of Chinese culture and food
Firzen [2d\]: white acn't
ennuistic [1d\]: but its hard with q13 so weak.
ganuong [3d\]: b seems better now right?
Firzen [2d\]: s12 group will get damaged
]
;W[qn]WL[2512.921]C[honsan3 [6k\]: T3 接着s9
JeffChang [9d\]: ah I cannot read that sequence danigabi...
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: almost
OBM [5d\]: and has a rich daddy, of course
OBM [5d\]: R6 feels like an overplay
ennuistic [1d\]: this is really complicated.
Korea4K [2d\]: risky
pebarefoot [-\]: this looks like it will be a good fight on the right
OBM [5d\]: P6?
Jaiyk [?\]: w brave
Firzen [2d\]: b certainly has the advantage here
Airi [2d\]: dead
Song17 [3d\]: I prefer b
danigabi [5d\]: Instead of S13, play R14 first
calgacus [-\]: w seems clearl better to me.
honsan3 [6k\]: 我觉得把黑下面弄平 成为没用的一面墙
Jaiyk [?\]: q7 ? p6?
danigabi [5d\]: if w plays s14, the classical heavy sequence
calgacus [-\]: clearly*
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: p6
danigabi [5d\]: if w jumps out ,black s14 looks better way to capture becuase b can connect at s12 later
choinon [?\]: maybe p6
honsan3 [6k\]: 因为左面是白
AHeliaca [1k\]: :O
miao [5d\]: n6 i think
jungle [1d\]: next 4 moves will decide the game
miao [5d\]: or o9
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: p7
TooCute4u [?\]: honsan3 u r talking alone in chiense ? ^ ^'
Novalys [5k\]: This is getting quite complicated : /
TeamRocket [3d\]: I'm starting slowly to dislike w
Song17 [3d\]: Q7?..
TooCute4u [?\]: chinese
Jaiyk [?\]: n6??? why
jungle [1d\]: no im talking with him
cherisse [2k\]: lol nihao
miao [5d\]: p7 q8 hurts
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: p12
TeamRocket [3d\]: his position I mean
jungle [1d\]: ∆_∆ ∆_∆
TooCute4u [?\]: ∆_∆
Airi [2d\]: ∆_∆
nphk [1d\]: O9
DuelX [3k\]: ∆.∆
TooCute4u [?\]: lol
choinon [?\]: good move is p6\]
ganuong [3d\]: o9?
f0rk [1d\]: wow !! What a game!! ))
LoveShania [8k\]: O__O
rats [2k?\]:  ∆_∆
ghkghj: ▽_▽
jeffywhite [-\]: how do u get triangles
ennuistic [1d\]: p6 does look like an option.. but it leaves a lot of cuts.
jungle [1d\]: O_O
miao [5d\]: o5
naum [8k?\]: 0_o
miao [5d\]: o6
jungle [1d\]: xD
cherisse [2k\]: lol
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: but first p12
miao [5d\]: or o9
jungle [1d\]: first bold by it
ennuistic [1d\]: maybe contact n3 first?
G0rk4 [2d\]: newfags can't triforce
jungle [1d\]: 1 admin point for it
DuelX [3k\]: ∆.▽
LoveShania [8k\]: its admin words
DangoMango [7k\]: what's difference between pro and kyu games?
jungle [1d\]: DuelX -_-
honsan3 [6k\]: ×_×
kinkerball [3k\]: lol ;P
oda [8k\]: ストップスパミング
honsan3 [6k\]: ×_×
TJKS [10k\]: -_0
Hyoga [4k\]: ストップスパミング
DuelX [3k\]: im duelx?
honsan3 [6k\]: ×_×
DuelX [3k\]: i c
G0rk4 [2d\]: bye honsan
honsan3 [6k\]: iq
danigabi [5d\]: ennuistic, N4 is good idea
honsan3 [6k\]: ip
jungle [1d\]: O(∆.▽)×
Zombies [4d?\]: g0rk4.. :x
miao [5d\]: pros do that theyy play like kyus kyus don´ t know that they play like pros
danigabi [5d\]: i fear that w would resist by just playing p6 since it weakens q9
Nikkentobi [3d?\]: with n3 there, feels as if white can mess with bottom right corner
ennuistic [1d\]: yeah.
Zombies [4d?\]: are you boxxy?
ennuistic [1d\]: if only white complied by fixing n3..
ennuistic [1d\]: too bad he's human.
G0rk4 [2d\]: no
oda [8k\]: queen of /b/
TooCute4u [?\]: prosze mowicz po polsku
ghkghj: did i just HEAR BAWXXY?
honsan3 [6k\]: 白原来想是要杀黑
Airi [2d\]: ·‿·
TooCute4u [?\]: merci de parler en francais
danigabi [5d\]: P5 looks very mild
choinon [?\]: p6
danigabi [5d\]: as w p6 gets out and q9 is weakened
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: o9
ghkghj: 1&2 u fa**ot
choinon [?\]: only p6
honsan3 [6k\]: 我不知道说对没
cloud [1d\]: q6 maybe?
danigabi [5d\]: b can later aim at l3, buti dont think its enough
choinon [?\]: ^_^
miao [5d\]: o6 dani?
OBM [5d\]: the doom days start when they become shodan
ennuistic [1d\]: if you p6 and give up some corner
cloud [1d\]: even though it touches a weak stone
samabcde [4d\]: q7 is my feeling
ennuistic [1d\]: maybe you have a strong attack on the white stones at q13
ThisHeat [-\]: i dont understand white:(( giving the corner away like that? oO
ganuong [3d\]: t1 !!!
OBM [5d\]: 90% will eventually teach chinese or foreign amateurs to make a living
TooCute4u [?\]: what does 对没  mean ?
danigabi [5d\]: o6 looks very thin
JeffChang [9d\]: hard to decide as b for now
Ten [6d\]: This looks like white making two weak groups at once
JeffChang [9d\]: locally b shape is weak
typeb [1k\]: o9
drau [5k\]: n4 any good?
samabcde [4d\]: means right or not
Ten [6d\]: I think I'd just want to jump to o0
oda [8k\]: /b/ shape is always good
Ten [6d\]: *o9
TooCute4u [?\]: i c
ennuistic [1d\]: i play p6 and give corner.
asdewka [14k\]: 550 spectators O_O
DuelX [3k\]:  对bu没 
DuelX [3k\]: eh
honsan3 [6k\]: @_@
DuelX [3k\]: wrong
TeamRocket [3d\]: But can w really expoit that right now?
oda [8k\]: 550 is not much
Nikkentobi [3d?\]: black stumped
JeffChang [9d\]: hmm, Ten, maybe corner first? it's weaker
miao [5d\]: p5 sente jeff?
PAG2 [-\]: hope the server wont crash -__-
Ten [6d\]: Is the corner really in trouble?
honsan3 [6k\]: 对BU没?
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: 560!!!
]
;B[mp]BL[2163.324]C[Mikkgo [2k\]: oh, i thought that 17:00 was GMT
danigabi [5d\]: B is territorially better but w is simply solid everywhere, so he will invade everything
DuelX [3k\]:  对BU没? = means nothing
ennuistic [1d\]: oh.. my original thought.
Novalys [5k\]: shimari not totally safe when surrounded : /
pebarefoot [-\]: looks like this game will end up on goma , over 500 warching
DuelX [3k\]: i mean
macgill [3k\]: how come so many people
TooCute4u [?\]: ok  hsdbgfh  we got it
DuelX [3k\]: it got no meaning
LionelLee [9k\]: ok stop counting the spectators and start counting the score
JeffChang [9d\]: hehe well
oda [8k\]: what is goma?
Airi [2d\]: se does that
miao [5d\]: ok fight
ennuistic [1d\]: white has to ignorthis ight?
JeffChang [9d\]: normally to protect the corner is relatively more urgent
JeffChang [9d\]: as I know ^^
miao [5d\]: but why
oda [8k\]: start counting so early?
OBM [5d\]: how to protect in this case?
Ten [6d\]: Hmm :)
Firzen [2d\]: because you prefer territory over influence jeff :P
OBM [5d\]: R5 OK?
oda [8k\]: what do you have to count?
JeffChang [9d\]: N4 is Peter's protection, already ^^
Ten [6d\]: Yeah
TooCute4u [?\]: before N4  why did u say the corner may be in danger ?   how ?
drau [5k\]: wow my move :)
honsan3 [6k\]: 底下度过的话能吗
OBM [5d\]: if b did not o anything
JeffChang [9d\]: he doesn't like normal moves, actually I think P5 is fine
choinon [?\]: p6 now
OBM [5d\]: w can Q3
honsan3 [6k\]: 把黑眼挤掉
Firzen [2d\]: q3 seems overplay
calgacus [-\]: w will answer
JeffChang [9d\]: http://www.experience-go.com/index.htm
cloud [1d\]: p8?
TeamRocket [3d\]: but immediatly Q3 would have been too hasty maybe
chocolate [1d\]: if you say so, Firzen
JeffChang [9d\]: please check it out if you're interested, thanks : )
honsan3 [6k\]: o4
Ten [6d\]: I'd check it if I hadn't already registrated :)
LoveShania [8k\]: advestisement err..
rats [2k?\]: q3 can make a L+2 group, and black gets to walls at s5 and o2
maytrang [3k\]: O4
miao [5d\]: can w o4 o3 n5 m5 q5 m3 o9 ?
JeffChang [9d\]: Ten:  lol
miao [5d\]: or to losely
DangoMango [7k\]: B+R
choinon [?\]: s4?
Anthony22 [6k\]: p5 
DangoMango [7k\]: y do pros think so long?
smogogo [2k\]: what's the standard q3 sequence?
honsan3 [6k\]: p5...............................e
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: w+0.5
ennuistic [1d\]: if i had extra cash, i'd do it in a heartbeat =)
Timely: s laskou jsouce, vychcat se jdouce
rats [2k?\]: but, black can play more aggresively so he kills q3 locally, but leaves a cut
Medice [-\]: take pride in your job
miao [5d\]: i don´t find a sequence for w
pebarefoot [-\]: ahh , Jeff , you mentioned p5 , but doesn't this still threaten p5 or even p6 now ?
danigabi [5d\]: the most standard move here is m3
LionelLee [9k\]: they because they have the ability to think for up to 30 40 plus moves sequence... and as a result takes longer to think
danigabi [5d\]: how does black follow? q7?
Zombies [4d?\]: jeff i hope you guys are still doing these summer sessions in 4 years when i finish my serive. :)
JeffChang [9d\]: yeah it does
Zombies [4d?\]: service*
Ten [6d\]: M3 is the standard move, yes, but it looks very uninspiring to me
ennuistic [1d\]: i think black can play p6 after this contact move, no?
JeffChang [9d\]: I'm thinking about Peter's this move now in fact
SuperSonic [-\]: w might stabilize r6 at cost of corner to allow attacking q9
Medice [-\]: white would rather want separate black q9 stones
Firzen [2d\]: peter dislikes standart-moves and joseki alot, so he'd rather come up with some new invention than playing a "normal" move ^^
miao [5d\]: m3 feels too less
JeffChang [9d\]: if I were w
Warfreak2 [4d\]: jeff might be exiled from china by then :-o
honsan3 [6k\]: q7 ..............再e
Firzen [2d\]: lol andrew ^^
ennuistic [1d\]: play p6 directly =)
LionelLee [9k\]: white trying to make use of r6?
GoShinobi [-\]: looks hard for w
OBM [5d\]: M3
honsan3 [6k\]: p6..........e
danigabi [5d\]: i think p6 is good for black, he gets profit from the attack
JeffChang [9d\]: I guess if I were w
JeffChang [9d\]: I'd have to tenuki
]
;W[on]WL[2211.32]C[JeffChang [9d\]: hard to answer here
miao [5d\]: kk
Ten [6d\]: Hehe
LionelLee [9k\]: hoho
]
;B[lq]BL[2158.77]C[JeffChang [9d\]: oh
ennuistic [1d\]: yeah, white puts all his eggs in one basket
honsan3 [6k\]: M3..继续e
JeffChang [9d\]: hehe ok :D
ennuistic [1d\]: attack q9 now
choinon [?\]: hehe p6
OBM [5d\]: that means R6 is bad
ganuong [3d\]: amazing
Firzen [2d\]: try to attack q9 stones now? :)
danigabi [5d\]: q6 is unnatackable
JeffChang [9d\]: hmm
danigabi [5d\]: q9
JeffChang [9d\]: so w lost a lot locally
ennuistic [1d\]: lean o10
JeffChang [9d\]: M3 is too big
JeffChang [9d\]: but well after R6 w has no choice
Ten [6d\]: The corner is still fairly open to invasion, though
honsan3 [6k\]: ×_×
pebarefoot [-\]: hi anthopny22 , wow , you're up to 6k now , congrats
DangoMango [7k\]: white has many weak groups
Firzen [2d\]: k4 group not absolutely alive now even :P
GoShinobi [-\]: w cant attack so easy because s12 is soo weak 
miao [5d\]: q9 dajni?
oda [8k\]: slow games like this are so uncommon in kgs, I like it
Ten [6d\]: But white still has to play a move like n6
JeffChang [9d\]: in this case, yeah I agree R6 might be problematic
JeffChang [9d\]: yeah
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: n6
Anthony22 [6k\]: hello, i think ill drop again pretty soon, but thanks ~.~
TeamRocket [3d\]: so now w need to attack q9 somehow or he loses the game
TeamRocket [3d\]: But it seems very hard thing to pull of..
kinkerball [3k\]: P9 now^_^;
miao [5d\]: b m5 big
]
;W[ol]WL[2117.53]C[Firzen [2d\]: o9 seems better
Firzen [2d\]: oh?
ennuistic [1d\]: this way..
Firzen [2d\]: nice
danigabi [5d\]: JeffChang: i was thicking w playing P8 before P6
OBM [5d\]: Try to force another empty triangle
danigabi [5d\]: to avoid the harmful exchange
danigabi [5d\]: thinking
ennuistic [1d\]: yeah, it makes heavy shape for black if he continues.
]
;B[ok]BL[2120.153]C[miao [5d\]: i like this for b
twintom [6k\]: w sticks to good shape
miao [5d\]: w not very strong
JeffChang [9d\]: ah
nub [6d\]: I wonder how many megabytes of text will this game receive ^^
JeffChang [9d\]: danigabi: it's interesting
cloud [1d\]: o10
JeffChang [9d\]: I'll need to read it though :P
kinkerball [3k\]: not many 
Mohican [1k\]: i dont think megabites will be reached =)
JeffChang [9d\]: also risky ^^
ChemBoy613 [2d\]: o9 looks like the way
]
;W[nk]WL[2066.69]
;B[oj]BL[2117.309]C[TeamRocket [3d\]: empty triangle ftw^^
rhuin [10k\]: a megabyte is a lot of text..
drau [5k\]: megabites of megadogs
danigabi [5d\]: yes. w aims to play q4 if black answers at q7, but well..its not simple
limerick [15k\]: lol drau
Jaiyk [?\]: o12 ?
kinkerball [3k\]: ^_^;
Yippie [1d\]: the empty triangle seems like a theme for black
ThisHeat [-\]: whats the word for a powerful empty triangle again?
OBM [5d\]: b has no repect to good shapes:-)))
kgsmonkey [4k\]: three empty triangles on the board :)
rats [2k?\]: w was the first to empty triangle
JeffChang [9d\]: I don't think b has to go in this way... too ugly
Firzen [2d\]: b shows respect to e3a.com ^^
choinon [?\]: o12 now *_*
JeffChang [9d\]: I feel like Peter is very cautious : )
ThisHeat [-\]: kazumi+??
Ten [6d\]: Kgsmonkey, I see four
Medice [-\]: n11, more like
]
;W[qq]WL[2002.308]
;B[pq]BL[2116.569]
;W[mi]WL[1999.642]C[Koukkaaja [3d\]: pros have to be in good shape, PR and all...
guerecon [2k\]: pros are allowed to make empty triangles
ennuistic [1d\]: oh hoh..
]
;B[oh]BL[2108.182]
;W[oi]WL[1997.024]C[ThisHeat [-\]: fight fight fight
Firzen [2d\]: this seems dangerous
]
;B[nj]BL[2098.706]C[calgacus [-\]: I still think w is better
nub [6d\]: indeed
]
;W[ni]WL[1992.334]C[pebarefoot [-\]: sometimes an "empty triangle" can be quite giood
nub [6d\]: b shapes look so kyuish
]
;B[mj]BL[2091.213]C[ennuistic [1d\]: very heavy shape.
Ten [6d\]: I wonder if p12 was the wrong order
ennuistic [1d\]: have a contact move at r7 to create a base.
Ten [6d\]: Maybe o10 first?
OBM [5d\]: Ten
Firzen [2d\]: so b would like to split p6 and k6 groups, apart right?
miao [5d\]: eleven
OBM [5d\]: if you do that, which is a Vulgar mov itself
OBM [5d\]: w sould not P11, but O12
OBM [5d\]: I gues
Ten [6d\]: Maybe, yes
choinon [?\]: only m10
pebarefoot [-\]: this is complicating both the top right and the bottom right , no ?
Ten [6d\]: I'm trying to determine if it would be better than this result
dutch2dan [3d?\]: l10 maybe?
JeffChang [9d\]: Ten: as my reading it is possible : )
oda [8k\]: an empty triangle is bad only if you make it in your first 6 moves, dun worry
OBM [5d\]: R12 would be captured
TJKS [10k\]: why is there no I column?
Ten [6d\]: And white would get something in the centre
OBM [5d\]: w get rid of burden, and make center thick
JeffChang [9d\]: well, later after the game, the players will comment
TJKS [10k\]: capital i that is
Medice [-\]: becouse l would get confused with I
JeffChang [9d\]: let's see how they will answer this : )
TJKS [10k\]: OK
Clare [-\]: black is living on cold ice here
Bonge [-\]: to avoid mjistaking it with l , I and l are similar
kingme2 [4k\]: why players will comment?
miao [5d\]: is there A pro game were one starts with an epty trianle in the center?
TooCute4u [?\]: u don't want ?
guerecon [2k\]: whites 9th move was an empty triangle
JeffChang [9d\]: after the game, I mean : )
SimonasLT [3k\]: +v
Ten [6d\]: Both colours have some issues here
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: p134
Firzen [2d\]: black and white aren't colours :)
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: 13*
Warfreak2 [4d\]: aren't both colours. exactly one is. which one, depends.
OBM [5d\]: black and white are not colors?
Javaness [-\]: pushing from behind
nub [6d\]: w is clearly losing
Email [3k\]: wow, they play really good
Mikki62 [3k\]: Firzen.... are you a painter?
Jaiyk [?\]: technically, B is no colors, W is all colors
]
;W[np]WL[1773.292]C[Ten [6d\]: Let's not talk about colours here
OBM [5d\]: by what "technic"?
ennuistic [1d\]: good forcing move.
ganuong [3d\]: focus on the game plz
oda [8k\]: no, but there is one with an empty triangle in the corner
Medice [-\]: in certain color schemes w is no color and b is all colors
ennuistic [1d\]: o4 n5?
maxoux [6k\]: indeed
OBM [5d\]: You are just wrong
honsan3 [6k\]: 还有保留
OBM [5d\]: w is all color
]
;B[nq]BL[2059.769]C[danigabi [5d\]: damaging forcing move
OBM [5d\]: black is no color
]
;W[mo]WL[1769.277]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: jaiyk, ah, but on a blank piece of white paper, you need no paint to create white yet you add paint to make black
ulasonder [4k\]: lol CMYK or RGB ?
UnknownL [13k\]: hyde maninha :D
ennuistic [1d\]: nice touch.
]
;B[lp]BL[2045.337]C[Askas [11k\]: lol warfreak2
choinon [?\]: after m10
honsan3 [6k\]: 这里白事先想好的\]
Jenghis [1k\]: If you mix all the colors together you get a dark brown
]
;W[li]WL[1753.383]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: or grey.
OBM [5d\]: you get white
OBM [5d\]: that is the sun light
Firzen [2d\]: not if you add them additive :)
maxoux [6k\]: high level trolling on a pro game
Askas [11k\]: ^^
Borat [2d\]: Sigh
rats [2k?\]: you get mountain fresh water
Warfreak2 [4d\]: rats wins
oda [8k\]: kibbitzing quality is better in pro games
danigabi [5d\]: difficult for both
nidza92 [-\]: to me it seems m3 wasnt good, i would first play q7
dalamyst [2k\]: 600 obs
DangoMango [7k\]: B+R
Jaiyk [?\]: paint is a light absorbing material. we're talking about mixing wavelengths of light :p
danigabi [5d\]: p12 did not induce something nice for black
ulasonder [4k\]: there are 3 essential colors, if you mix in balance u get a perfect grey (black and white) no balance gives colors
undosuji: yammering about nonsense isn't the same as kibitzing  the game
Email [3k\]: I think white wins
OBM [5d\]: paint is what light can be reflected, not abosorbed?
LoveShania [8k\]: =))
OBM [5d\]: a blue color reflect blue and absorb everything else?
guerecon [2k\]: :-0
ennuistic [1d\]: seems black has no choice but to atari but that gives white such good shape..
Koukkaaja [3d\]: good to know if there gamma radiation around
]
;B[nl]BL[1932.48]C[Mikki62 [3k\]: go is a very inspiring game ;)
danigabi [5d\]: b is territorially ahead
drau [5k\]: b may die here?
honsan3 [6k\]: 黑还有o6?
danigabi [5d\]: sente is of utmos importance as if black gets g17, the game is over for w
ennuistic [1d\]: well, black should be ahead territorially, white has yet to cash in on his profit.
]
;W[qe]WL[1724.347]
;B[pf]BL[1927.559]C[JeffChang [9d\]: oh ok
]
;W[pe]WL[1719.213]C[Ten [6d\]: This just got interesting
JeffChang [9d\]: w is really bloody...
]
;B[of]BL[1919.006]C[Airi [2d\]: this workds??
ennuistic [1d\]: i dunno why white play this..
ganuong [3d\]: hehe
danigabi [5d\]: this is rally risky
drau [5k\]: cool
ennuistic [1d\]: its really bad for him i think.
ganuong [3d\]: seems risky
JeffChang [9d\]: right, it's risky
]
;W[oe]WL[1708.2]C[Email [3k\]: rally risky
ennuistic [1d\]: high damage potential.
Ten [6d\]: Probably thought he cannot win the game otherwise
ganuong [3d\]: lol
ennuistic [1d\]: is q12 good now?
Jaiyk [?\]: There will be blood. Moyo milkshakes will be drunk.
smogogo [2k\]: this become really bloody
naum [8k?\]: o15?
rats [2k?\]: it's a race to the left side of the board.. but m11 is winning
ennuistic [1d\]: it damages r10 it seems.
Ten [6d\]: Or well, I don't know how he thinks :)
Firzen [2d\]: they are not really trying to win, but to defeat the other :P
DangoMango [7k\]: q12
guerecon [2k\]: I thinkk this was the plan all along
Elscouta [4k\]: o rly?
calgacus [-\]: May be risky, but is logical.
pitirre [4k\]: i just played in IGS... is still open and very good
TooCute4u [?\]: i love w's style  @_@
DangoMango [7k\]: it's not risky if you read every move out
ennuistic [1d\]: this is very interesting.
Zombies [4d?\]: two weak groups versus three
newboot [3d\]: logical?
]
;B[ne]BL[1845.569]C[Email [3k\]: white reads 50 moves in the future
Timely: IGS rocks
ennuistic [1d\]: if black gave up the three stones whould he still be ahead?
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: wow
SlowThinkr [2d\]: maybe he made it for observers//
danigabi [5d\]: b has one more lib
ennuistic [1d\]: =)
nidza92 [-\]: i would prefer to play m15 sente than r15
pitirre [4k\]: igs and cyberoro are the hardest servers around
]
;W[nf]WL[1684.94]C[ganuong [3d\]: 3 4
Pleb [2k\]: hardest ?
Ten [6d\]: Server discussion elsewhere, please...
]
;B[od]BL[1829.457]C[Email [3k\]: w will offer those stones
]
;W[me]WL[1682.271]C[chocolate [1d\]: as long as you can give a logical explenation for your move, its okay - right Jeff? :P
]
;B[nd]BL[1828.207]C[Email [3k\]: he's smart
]
;W[sg]WL[1680.562]
;B[ng]BL[1821.35]C[chocolate [1d\]: and you don't have to buy everyone beer at dinner
]
;W[mf]WL[1673.67]
;B[sf]BL[1818.156]C[honsan3 [6k\]: 我也想到了014
]
;W[sh]WL[1669.257]
;B[mg]BL[1815.01]C[ennuistic [1d\]: connect from below is not so great for black.
honsan3 [6k\]: 不活还没算
ennuistic [1d\]: good move.
JeffChang [9d\]: aha
SlowThinkr [2d\]: oo
miao [5d\]: w lost?
danigabi [5d\]: n13 very good
danigabi [5d\]: miai of m13 and s14
nidza92 [-\]: w is good about n13???
peter2 [2k\]: T15?
]
;W[lj]WL[1633.007]C[babaluu [3k\]: p13?
nidza92 [-\]: what*
JeffChang [9d\]: a great design of sacrifice : )
ganuong [3d\]: n7
miojij: s14
sfrex [2k\]: 你想你的妈好了
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: s14 for w
babaluu [3k\]: oops
honsan3 [6k\]: 白少一气
Medice [-\]: it's not good enough for white to _just_ save those stones
danigabi [5d\]: n7?
Medice [-\]: learn from this fine example
Firzen [2d\]: s14 waste of kothreat
]
;B[om]BL[1763.386]
;W[rp]WL[1628.602]C[Firzen [2d\]: s3 too small?
Courgette [1k\]: 615 people!!!
DrDango [4k\]: yose
TJKS [10k\]: O5?
OBM [5d\]: this is no yose
]
;B[rq]BL[1725.914]C[OBM [5d\]: and this is huge
DangoMango [7k\]: s5 by white
OBM [5d\]: w is make shape,
Firzen [2d\]: ah :D
smogogo [2k\]: r5
DrDango [4k\]: no but s14 yose or ko threat
]
;W[pl]WL[1605.288]C[Firzen [2d\]: q5 followup for b :P
OBM [5d\]: protect cut point, for getting out and make S9 possibe
miao [5d\]: 14 oints
hsdbgfh [4k?\]: s14 it's a killing move
JeffChang [9d\]: w wanna get kind of a connection underneath
JeffChang [9d\]: then attack b
AliTamur [2k\]: I'd love to see white win, it'd be like a miracle, after losing every local fight
JeffChang [9d\]: I guess
danigabi [5d\]: s14 is about 14 points in gote
TooCute4u [?\]: u guess nice
ennuistic [1d\]: this is a lot more interesting.
ennuistic [1d\]: should q7 no?
DangoMango [7k\]: r8!
Email [3k\]: white will not lose
Airi [2d\]: w won their last game
]
;B[mk]BL[1673.633]C[Email [3k\]: he's a hero
OBM [5d\]: if w gets M13, then it is still playable for w
nidza92 [-\]: s14 more than 14 pts
Ten [6d\]: Danigabi, I think it's bigger
DangoMango [7k\]: B OWNS
ennuistic [1d\]: mm.
OBM [5d\]: but can he get M13?
Medice [-\]: it's not so gote becouse black has to play outside
Ten [6d\]: Because if white plays there, he ends the sequence with t17
ghkghj: s14 p13 t17 more than 14 pt.
Medice [-\]: but white doesnt want to ruin possibilities on outside
miao [5d\]: ok 18
]
;W[pm]WL[1566.12]
;B[nm]BL[1667.029]
;W[qo]WL[1557.359]
;B[qr]BL[1664.393]C[Ten [6d\]: I don't know how you count that, but 18 does sound better :)
drau [5k\]: m13 ?
]
;W[qk]WL[1555.802]C[ghkghj: actually its 21
violetta [4k\]: ist free game ?
]
;B[nn]BL[1660.351]C[miao [5d\]: wow
danigabi [5d\]: sorry i didnt count t16 and such
OBM [5d\]: learnd from R9
newboot [3d\]:  f yfgtgf
OBM [5d\]: all I thought about was S9
Firzen [2d\]: r0 is the shapeppoint :)
danigabi [5d\]: t17 is worth around 6 points in this case
honsan3 [6k\]: r9好似后手吧
Firzen [2d\]: r9
danigabi [5d\]: so half for that is 3
smogogo [2k\]: o5 p5 p4?
nidza92 [-\]: plus its more likely to be sente coz of m13
Mikki62 [3k\]: k6 getting weak?
honsan3 [6k\]: 黑r9是
OBM [5d\]: S9 is gote too
danigabi [5d\]: if s14 is 14 points, then its 17 or around
]
;W[rf]WL[1500.507]C[danigabi [5d\]: its big but not huge
pebarefoot [-\]: violetta , ja , ist frie
JeffChang [9d\]: http://www.experience-go.com/index.htm
JeffChang [9d\]: Peter, Ben, Jackjin 2p and Jeff will all be the teachers in this program during the summer, welcome to join us, : )
nidza92 [-\]: not huge but biggest:)
]
;B[og]BL[1636.057]
;W[sc]WL[1497.883]C[Medice [-\]: but it is also sente so about double of that
guerecon [2k\]: wow
Jaiyk [?\]: w is doing well
danigabi [5d\]: l14?
]
;B[lf]BL[1611.15]C[SDW86 [6k\]: why not m13?
nub [6d\]: this is what u get for playing n13
Disruption [12k\]: black could have avoided this by playing T16 first?
Draxt [10k\]: is white aiming at Q10?
pebarefoot [-\]: Jeff , what is the name of the room that you will be using here at KGS ? please
nidza92 [-\]: told u its sente
TooCute4u [?\]: W  加油
TooCute4u [?\]: !
babaluu [3k\]: some one said the white is clearly wining but i have to dissagree
]
;W[pj]WL[1459.403]C[Firzen [2d\]: w has to otherwise it's not connected
Mikki62 [3k\]: r6 alive?
JeffChang [9d\]: ah
nidza92 [-\]: i tohught he would play q12...
OBM [5d\]: I would argue with you 
ghkghj: lessons -> Peter & toms go club
guerecon [2k\]: they will teach in china not on KGS
JeffChang [9d\]: It's Peter& Tom's Go club, under Lessons : )
danigabi [5d\]: time to coun
pebarefoot [-\]: thx
danigabi [5d\]: count
smogogo [2k\]: huge sucess for withe with this s16 invasion no?
OBM [5d\]: if someone say these two repsent top pro level
JeffChang [9d\]: ^^
knupsi [3d\]: its gote
babaluu [3k\]: even if w is pushing i think black is doing a good job
GoShinobi [-\]: jeff who do you think is doing better ?
TooCute4u [?\]: w !
Anthony22 [6k\]: w got alot of territory
nidza92 [-\]: i think q12 i better than q10....q12 sente
danigabi [5d\]: it seems the territory is quite balanced right now
JeffChang [9d\]: I still like w : )
TooCute4u [?\]: definitely w !
Koukkaaja [3d\]: you can fool me once...
danigabi [5d\]: but black has sente to g17
danigabi [5d\]: i think b is a little better
Elscouta [4k\]: g17 is better than h17?
Jaiyk [?\]: g17 is really the biggest tenuki?
honsan3 [6k\]: good
]
;B[hc]BL[1497.177]C[babaluu [3k\]: jeff..i lack the reaing they have but w is pushing hm to softly dont u think?
OBM [5d\]: Q10 very thick move
Firzen [2d\]: k8 or smth seems bigger
OBM [5d\]: now b has to fix the top
typeb [1k\]: q12 is not sente
Jaiyk [?\]: 4k > 5d ;)
OBM [5d\]: w still has L15?
JeffChang [9d\]: hmm
gootik [1d\]: o5 for fun
honsan3 [6k\]: L15
f0rk [1d\]: i think w needs to try to maake some poit around j10 
honsan3 [6k\]: 有人和我先一样诶
f0rk [1d\]: points
danigabi [5d\]: center points?
knupsi [3d\]: j10 dame
JeffChang [9d\]: L15 is an obvious weakness
OBM [5d\]: L15!
OBM [5d\]: A typical KGS 5d move
]
;W[qb]WL[1384.08]C[OBM [5d\]: :-)
JeffChang [9d\]: it seems w has to enter soon
TooCute4u [?\]: O5  cmon  now
GoShinobi [-\]: k4 is weak how you want to make there teritory
gosteve [1d\]: p5
f0rk [1d\]: is f8 sente for W ?
danigabi [5d\]: r18 huge
Firzen [2d\]: I'd assume that peter already has some coutnermeasures prepared in case of l15 :)
t0Strong4u [-\]: how many points?
]
;B[pb]BL[1467.956]C[miao [5d\]: 5pt sente?
drau [5k\]: in sure points I count w 48.5 b 50 
miao [5d\]: 6
OBM [5d\]: folks
]
;W[ke]WL[1371.873]C[LionelLee [9k\]: m15 is a typical kgs 15k move
Disruption [12k\]: there you have L15 XD
Ten [6d\]: Here we go :)
JeffChang [9d\]: : )
OBM [5d\]: it is funny to talk about exact points in fighting or strategic moves
Firzen [2d\]: k14 is smiling at me for no particular reason
Koukkaaja [3d\]: they go, we watch
OBM [5d\]: at least I feel so
danigabi [5d\]: thats why i suggested M14 at L14
t0Strong4u [-\]: k13 
t0Strong4u [-\]: nvm
t0Strong4u [-\]: j14 ?
miao [5d\]: k14?
]
;B[jf]BL[1429.19]C[LionelLee [9k\]: 寻众要求
miao [5d\]: haaaaaa
Firzen [2d\]: ^^
miao [5d\]: :D
wenkang [8k\]: why
OBM [5d\]: Wow, I feel like 2 P today
t0Strong4u [-\]: ^^
JeffChang [9d\]: hehe nice ^^
Firzen [2d\]: well I have a good teacher ^^
miao [5d\]: ^^
DangoMango [7k\]: i feel like 9p today
OBM [5d\]: M13?
honsan3 [6k\]: 黑下边是死的吗 要是下05，他就p5我就p4。。接着。
ThisHeat [-\]: i count both around 50
kingbong [2k\]: dango you 2
kingbong [2k\]: :P
]
;W[id]WL[1311.87]C[Firzen [2d\]: m13 l13 m12 m15 
Firzen [2d\]: ^^
f0rk [1d\]: nice
LionelLee [9k\]: j16 is a typical 3p move
Nicl22 [7k\]: that's odd
miao [5d\]: i feel like loser lost 3 times in a row against insei
saimic [4k\]: h15:))
miao [5d\]: <<
Nicl22 [7k\]: black should be about 5 points ahead on the board
]
;B[ie]BL[1410.263]C[honsan3 [6k\]: 05?
danigabi [5d\]: J15?
Nicl22 [7k\]: or white is winning!
Jaiyk [?\]: woulda never thought of j16
OBM [5d\]: J17
Firzen [2d\]: j177 seems overplay
miao [5d\]: yes
JeffChang [9d\]: J16 is tesuji
miao [5d\]: j17 typical kgs 5d move
f0rk [1d\]: j18 
Firzen [2d\]: lol lukas
guerecon [2k\]: and l15 is not an overplay?
miao [5d\]: :P
TooCute4u [?\]: J17  divine move
OBM [5d\]: but does w have other choice?  
calgacus [-\]: you should know miao
Bakumatsu [9k\]: k17?
OBM [5d\]: this is game deciding fight
moyoAGA1k [1k\]: l16
OBM [5d\]: feel lke w won't get killed without huge pay back
moyoAGA1k [1k\]: my entire fortune on l16
asdewka [14k\]: l13
Endurance [7k?\]: id go m 17
Firzen [2d\]: oh, the ladder works for w
Vinicius [1d\]: K15! :P
guerecon [2k\]: what happened to bs territory?
miao [5d\]: ladda?
choinon [?\]: b10
choinon [?\]: ?
miao [5d\]: j17 j18 maybe?
Firzen [2d\]: ah nevermind I missed looseladder :P
TooCute4u [?\]: if L15 stone can not go out  or if w can not capture  H17 stone    W L15 reduction will be a complet failure
Nicl22 [7k\]: what does white have here?
woolman [18k?\]: whos winning atm?
Nicl22 [7k\]: I dont'see anything
SamIam [5k\]: k15
Firzen [2d\]: k15 seems ouch ^^
johndoe [4k\]: definetly prefer b
choinon [?\]: b10 maybe?
rephoenix [10k\]: l13 seems interesting 
dalamyst [2k\]: w is too pro
]
;W[ic]WL[1082.472]C[LimYoHwan [5k\]: next few moves should be really fast :-)
]
;B[hd]BL[1404.181]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: no, b is too pro - w is three pro
Nicl22 [7k\]: boxer
TooCute4u [?\]: J17 ! i was right   Vive moi  HAAHHA
Nicl22 [7k\]: I didn't know you played go
LimYoHwan [5k\]: just a fan.
Nicl22 [7k\]: oh : )
dosendoc [15k\]: I think my brain will have melted by the time I've figured out what's going on here
Bakumatsu [9k\]: m17 ??
LimYoHwan [5k\]: and yes, he does play :-) He's 2d in korean ranking.
Nicl22 [7k\]: oh wow!
danigabi [5d\]: k18?
]
;W[hb]WL[1049.142]C[Nicl22 [7k\]: awesome
Jaiyk [?\]: to the deaaath
Nicl22 [7k\]: any other progamers play go?
Firzen [2d\]: diifficult
danigabi [5d\]: ok i dont know how to play go
]
;B[ib]BL[1389.052]
;W[jc]WL[1047.85]
;B[jb]BL[1381.883]C[Jaiyk [?\]: progamers, or programmers?
]
;W[kc]WL[1046.517]C[JeffChang [9d\]: http://www.experience-go.com/index.htm
Firzen [2d\]: m17?
violetta [4k\]: pfff
JeffChang [9d\]: If you're interested, please check it out, thanks. ^^
]
;B[gb]BL[1375.225]C[Bakumatsu [9k\]: I'd consider JeffChang  a pro/
danigabi [5d\]: h18 damaging to ws corner
]
;W[je]WL[1039.505]
;B[if]BL[1368.094]C[LimYoHwan [5k\]: I'm not gonna talk SC in a pro Go game :-)
miao [5d\]: can w live?
drau [5k\]: m13 soon
oda [8k\]: jeffchang, you adopt japanese rules over chinese?
Tengil [2k\]: omg over 600 spectators
Firzen [2d\]: m13 doesn't work
newboot [3d\]: w lose alll ?
dalamyst [2k\]: if w lives i eatmy trousers
JeffChang [9d\]: ah
huggy [3k\]: looks bad for w
guerecon [2k\]: m15/
drau [5k\]: not yet 
OBM [5d\]: seki maybe?
Clare [-\]: w living on thin ice
f0rk [1d\]: l14 l13 m15 m13 n18 
JeffChang [9d\]: to me I'm used to Japanese rule more, yes ^^
smogogo [2k\]: white can kill corner?
choinon [?\]: w die
Firzen [2d\]: lol jeff ^^
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i'm more used to chinese rules :-o
miao [5d\]: seki?
Firzen [2d\]: me too ^^
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i annoy people at the club by throwing the captures back into their bowl
miao [5d\]: 5d not use rules
Elscouta [4k\]: seki? where? how?
violetta [4k\]: seki in gote for w
urknall [10k\]: L19
danigabi [5d\]: b t18 lives in corner so i dont see it
TooCute4u [?\]: no seki    seems good for b......
OBM [5d\]: M15
]
;W[le]WL[947.932]C[Nicl22 [7k\]: wow
Nicl22 [7k\]: nice
Bakumatsu [9k\]: l13 
Email [3k\]: w is a hero
]
;B[kf]BL[1353.739]C[OBM [5d\]: the only move
calgacus [-\]: w is lost
]
;W[kb]WL[941.153]C[Bakumatsu [9k\]: m17 
]
;B[lc]BL[1347.758]C[Jaiyk [?\]: resign coming soon :p
OBM [5d\]: L18 or N18?
violetta [4k\]: heros lost sometimes
drau [5k\]: hehe m13 no more
OBM [5d\]: I though N18 is better
miao [5d\]: mre toast
dalamyst [2k\]: fondle the best maaaa
DangoMango [7k\]: B+R
Email [3k\]: heroes never lose
TooCute4u [?\]: true
Firzen [2d\]: game over
knupsi [3d\]: l15 overplay
danigabi [5d\]: w cant n18 so..
OBM [5d\]: now is w's resign time
llook [?\]: sacrifice by w?
Bakumatsu [9k\]: B + res
Bakumatsu [9k\]: ?
danigabi [5d\]: looks kind of over
wenkang [8k\]: not yey
MoogleOo [2k\]: K14 was really good move
honsan3 [6k\]: .
JeffChang [9d\]: w is dead, no doubt
honsan3 [6k\]: ........
OBM [5d\]: this is a pro game???
Bakumatsu [9k\]: White is dead..
samabcde [4d\]: n18
Bakumatsu [9k\]: just look at it..
Namii [5d\]: is B tartrate?
Ten [6d\]: This is a pro game, yeah
Diogenes [11k\]: m13
Airi [2d\]: w is tartrate
snowmen [3d\]: n18 aji
parvathi: hard to believe a 3p play such low level moves - dead
Firzen [2d\]: n18 doesn't work
OBM [5d\]: Or they did not play with full steam?
wenkang [8k\]: N18
Bakumatsu [9k\]: He can't do anything
]
;W[ha]WL[863.66]C[calgacus [-\]: not a good advert
oda [8k\]: wow, only now did I notice w is not connected
parvathi: maybe is a fake 3p?
kinkerball [3k\]: o.o
honsan3 [6k\]: 下面黑不好杀吗
dalamyst [2k\]: is resigninga tesuji in this case ?
]
;B[ga]BL[1340.249]C[TooCute4u [?\]: W    为什么 ? !!!!!!!!   bouuuuuuuh  :'(
Jaiyk [?\]: was j17 the losing move?
Ten [6d\]: parvathi, you must have never before seen pro games
]
;W[em]WL[854.483]C[honsan3 [6k\]: 他n6..
OBM [5d\]: haha
samabcde [4d\]: lower sides b live
ThisHeat [-\]: tratrate is Kim Myungwan, 8p
OBM [5d\]: a ladder breaker
violetta [4k\]: ladderbreaker !
Ten [6d\]: There's been cases in which even a 9p dies "shamefully"
Draxt [10k\]: white want to set a shisho breaker for M13?
Firzen [2d\]: no ladder, it'S a net
]
;B[kh]BL[1315.374]C[Bakumatsu [9k\]: m13 ?
Firzen [2d\]: huh?
Bakumatsu [9k\]: wow
ghkghj: Kim Myungwan 8p == tartrate. so obviously not b
Bakumatsu [9k\]: didn'tsee that
LimYoHwan [5k\]: net would mean B dead
guerecon [2k\]: the cut at h15 is dangerous it seems
OBM [5d\]: we have a new fight in the bottom
]
;W[ho]WL[837.307]C[Bakumatsu [9k\]: COULD black net?
jabbawocky [1k\]: no
LimYoHwan [5k\]: no..
Firzen [2d\]: g8=escape
Bakumatsu [9k\]: ok
choinon [?\]: g8 now
Ten [6d\]: Why wasn't the net fine?
calgacus [-\]: Quality doen the toilet.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: net and w can cut at h15
Ten [6d\]: I don't see
honsan3 [6k\]: 郁闷
Warfreak2 [4d\]: ofc
Firzen [2d\]: possibly something about h15 cut
um [1d\]: h15 escape
parvathi: happy
JeffChang [9d\]: which net?
Namii [5d\]: LimYoHwan, you have chosen a great nickname
pitirre [4k\]: anyone from puerto rico?
Ten [6d\]: m13 m12 l13 l12 k13 j12 
Bakumatsu [9k\]: m13 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: m13 m12 l13 l12 k13 j12 net, jeff
Mikki62 [3k\]: L12 necessary?
Firzen [2d\]: m13 m12 l13 l12 k13 j12 
TooCute4u [?\]: w O5
OBM [5d\]: w should not have listened to a KGS 5d
JeffChang [9d\]: ah
G0rk4 [2d\]: maybe because of h15 ??
LimYoHwan [5k\]: :-)
parvathi: are this game Chinese fight each other?
OBM [5d\]: I feel sorry
JeffChang [9d\]: well cos of H15 cut
honsan3 [6k\]: 杀棋
JeffChang [9d\]: w will H15 first
JeffChang [9d\]: then cut M13
]
;B[gl]BL[1240.865]C[G0rk4 [2d\]: :)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: you heard it here first, folks :-)
Ten [6d\]: Hmm, let me read :)
Bakumatsu [9k\]: ff8 ?
JeffChang [9d\]: : )
Firzen [2d\]: ^^
Bakumatsu [9k\]: g8...
OBM [5d\]: L15 was the move
nub [6d\]: w is toast
sc1003bro [3k\]: FF8
Bakumatsu [9k\]: I thought he was ognna go f8.
OBM [5d\]: W hould have listened to 4k
Mikki62 [3k\]: ah..... thx
Bakumatsu [9k\]: Great game
oda [8k\]: with butter
OBM [5d\]: they are the better kinitzers
]
;W[ch]WL[801.601]C[Elscouta [4k\]: ^^
Ten [6d\]: Ok, I guess that h15 would be trouble
Firzen [2d\]: :D
miao [5d\]: e8
Bakumatsu [9k\]: what is that move called?
JeffChang [9d\]: yeah
miao [5d\]: ?
Bakumatsu [9k\]: c12 ?
honsan3 [6k\]: 05真不可以吗
dalamyst [2k\]: w should just res
honsan3 [6k\]: 05？
um [1d\]: you were right jeff, bloody players
miao [5d\]: i localy tenuki
Thiras [8k\]: o5 
JeffChang [9d\]: hehe
Nicl22 [7k\]: how do you locally tenuki
JeffChang [9d\]: I know them, sure
TooCute4u [?\]: no  w   Fighting ! Fighting !
kingme2 [4k\]: turn out the lights
nub [6d\]: e12
miao [5d\]: i can :3
JeffChang [9d\]: though their first few moves didn't look like 
gryn [2d?\]: nevar resign!
oda [8k\]: we want teh blood
samabcde [4d\]: o5 n6
OBM [5d\]: the potential coaches/teachers should show some grace and reisgn
honsan3 [6k\]: 05 heN6 Bwnbu M9
Novalys [5k\]: is this move in relation to H15 ?
OBM [5d\]: or they are too young?
honsan3 [6k\]: 05 heN6 Bwnbu M9
Email [3k\]: white has a plan
Firzen [2d\]: quite young
Bakumatsu [9k\]: Yo Su. Can you beat these guys?
JeffChang [9d\]: b has to be cautious
patrickn [12k\]: maybe they are getting paid for a full game?
honsan3 [6k\]: 05 heN6 Bwnbu M9
Ten [6d\]: The teachers should show unyielding spirit
nub [6d\]: f8
JeffChang [9d\]: otherwise if w gest some more stones
honsan3 [6k\]: 和我想的一样
Warfreak2 [4d\]: or maybe they are better at judging when to resign than you are
LimYoHwan [5k\]: I thought the net would be bad because w could N12...
JeffChang [9d\]: w may G7 push and cut directly
TooCute4u [?\]: GAME NOT OVER YET
Firzen [2d\]: Firzen: To me the game seemed over ^^ PeteLiu: not that easy...
JeffChang [9d\]: right, it's not over yet
JeffChang [9d\]: though it's b's far leading
oda [8k\]: w killed his group on purpose to divert b's attention from his real aimz
miao [5d\]: SO MY E( IS OKß
honsan3 [6k\]: 黑越来越厚了
miao [5d\]: e8?
ThisHeat [-\]: lol oda got paranoia
nub [6d\]: i'd play e8
Firzen [2d\]: I wouldn't have thought of it, but now I like e8 ^^
]
;B[bh]BL[1078.211]C[Bakumatsu [9k\]: So why can't Pros have graphs for their rank???
miao [5d\]: 2 nubs one game
nub [6d\]: lol
miao [5d\]: :D
WQ [10k\]: honsan， 在这里没多少人会说中文的。
honsan3 [6k\]: 。。
Yippie [1d\]: because it's a heavyside function
honsan3 [6k\]: 。。。。。。。。。
Medice [-\]: bakumatsu, a straight horizontal line is not a very interesting one
OBM [5d\]: Ben is not a great english name for a chinese board game palyer
]
;W[lb]WL[775.02]
;B[mb]BL[1070.901]C[TooCute4u [?\]: because pros can not lose their ranks   so a graph  is useless
]
;W[ci]WL[762.708]
;B[bi]BL[1067.357]
;W[ck]WL[761.405]C[ghkghj: OBM is not a good name for a go player on the internew
honsan3 [6k\]: 有人能听懂的 提出介意而已
Anthony22 [6k\]: ladder breaker?
oda [8k\]: obm = obama
Bakumatsu [9k\]: Yo Su Yang! Have you ever played pros on here before?
Daoloth [-\]: good luck to Tibet
WQ [10k\]: 哦
Calis [3k\]: Jeff, will somebody comment the game at the end?
samabcde [4d\]: but only a few read chinese
miao [5d\]: yes
nub [6d\]: e8 danger for h6
JeffChang [9d\]: ah yeah
miao [5d\]: they will
JeffChang [9d\]: one of them I guess, or both
honsan3 [6k\]: 这盘棋感觉。。
nub [6d\]: hm
Calis [3k\]: ok, thx ^^
nub [6d\]: actually not
JeffChang [9d\]: I'll talk to them afterwards
choinon [?\]: i play d9
josette [1d\]: cool
WQ [10k\]: 呵呵
JeffChang [9d\]: ^^
hade [7k\]: 我的中文不过好。
choinon [?\]: ^^
Jaiyk [?\]: Jeff, what handicap, if any, is used when you play these guys?
honsan3 [6k\]: 恩恩
miao [5d\]: 1
Bakumatsu [9k\]: 1 sounds good
Bakumatsu [9k\]: 2 is tough
oda [8k\]: you can place 4 ponnuki at please
miao [5d\]: f8 i guess
miao [5d\]: or something there
Simboubou [10k\]: more than 600 watchers ?
Bakumatsu [9k\]: 671
Firzen [2d\]: I'd guess d9
gospiller [8k\]: d 10?
miao [5d\]: yes
miao [5d\]: d9 possible
miao [5d\]: but maybe too much ubersujiish
choinon [?\]: ^_^
Firzen [2d\]: d9 seems more peter-style ^^
LimYoHwan [5k\]: d9 looks good
macgill [3k\]: 这俩个人中文叫什么名？
miao [5d\]: i think not does enaugh
honsan3 [6k\]: 白已经够好的了吧
Nicl22 [7k\]: Why did white play M18?
Firzen [2d\]: f8 doesn't seem to do much either :P
Bakumatsu [9k\]: D7!
honsan3 [6k\]: 该吃的吃 破点空
]
;B[fl]BL[892.929]C[miao [5d\]: :P
]
;W[dj]WL[756.456]C[Firzen [2d\]: you win ^^
]
;B[bj]BL[892.031]C[miao [5d\]: hehe
Firzen [2d\]: *hands over one euro* :D
honsan3 [6k\]: acgill我吗？
Novalys [5k\]: h15
miao [5d\]: *takes it*
Firzen [2d\]: so b is aiming to attack k6 i guess
Nicl22 [7k\]: don't be a wuss Firzen. Go and do an acatual bank transfer
weak888 [1k\]: g5
]
;W[dk]WL[718.117]C[ganuong [3d\]: b winnnnnnnn
miao [5d\]: or send me a cheseburger
Nicl22 [7k\]: ye
Nicl22 [7k\]: or that
macgill [3k\]: 我说是这两个棋手？
Jaiyk [?\]: can B attack k6 grp?
]
;B[bk]BL[867.23]C[Draxt [10k\]: any guess on score ?
Ho [3k?\]: goburger
honsan3 [6k\]: 。。。那个不是英国人吗？
honsan3 [6k\]: 一个中国的
Rossk [-\]: isn't h15 interesting?
Nicl22 [7k\]: B leading 
samabcde [4d\]: w want to attack two groups  together
Uberdude [3d?\]: h15 g15 
TooCute4u [?\]: yo hen duo ren  bu shi ying guo ren
Anthony22 [6k\]: 3 groups
honsan3 [6k\]: P是职业吧
]
;W[cg]WL[675.332]C[hade [7k\]: 我是英国人. 8D
Rossk [-\]: h15 g15 then w has cut?
Bakumatsu [9k\]: k6 at move 22 was bad I think.... 
guerecon [2k\]: B leading himself towards the funeral parlor
Bakumatsu [9k\]: maybe thats whre he went wrong
choinon [?\]: w want h15
JeffChang [9d\]: http://www.experience-go.com/index.htm
Timely: why not simply b13?
johndoe [4k\]: d13
honsan3 [6k\]: - - 你装地雷吗
jjermann [1d\]: E14?
JeffChang [9d\]: Experience Go in China is a 2 months Go studying program in summer. It is not only a Go studying program, but also a good choice for you to relax after a year work or studying.If you are interested, please contact Jeff directly, thanks.
WQ [10k\]: 哈哈
knupsi [3d\]: b13
Nicl22 [7k\]: Jeff how many people have that kidn of money!
Stormer [?\]: e14
Bakumatsu [9k\]: Wait. Is Jeff jeff? or is jeff Su?
TheTonttu [3k\]: I have ^^
Firzen [2d\]: jeff is both
honsan3 [6k\]: 网上8d 现实呢
LionelLee [9k\]: hmm from the games list... it seems that almost everyone is watching this game than playing
Zeldasan [3k\]: 哈哈哈哈
Bakumatsu [9k\]: Huh? I thought his name was Su
Timely: jeff, how much is it for the the moneth -- circa?
]
;B[bg]BL[736.972]C[miao [5d\]: b dieng
]
;W[bl]WL[671.36]C[miao [5d\]: <<
WQ [10k\]: 我说他不是说8d
ghkghj: ἠλι ἠλι, λαμὰ σαβαχθανί
Mikkgo [2k\]: timely, check from the site.
]
;B[bm]BL[730.385]C[honsan3 [6k\]: kgs我都可以打到一段
WQ [10k\]: 而是8D
Firzen [2d\]: dieng?
]
;W[cl]WL[657.317]C[Timely: no time, i'm in a game -- just tell me the number
Warfreak2 [4d\]: nah
Medice [-\]: something of black just has to die
miao [5d\]: stiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiabt
Warfreak2 [4d\]: easy to escape
miao [5d\]: h9 aua
WQ [10k\]: 一个expression而已
hade [7k\]: wo bu shi shuo 8D
miao [5d\]: :D
Nicl22 [7k\]: €1199
Uberdude [3d?\]: run away, as king arthur said
honsan3 [6k\]: 8P
maxp73 [-\]: ni shi 8D
TooCute4u [?\]: for option 3   not bad
choinon [?\]: i play d13 ?
]
;B[ef]BL[668.373]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: e14 runs away
Jaiyk [?\]: tis only a flesh wound.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: that's for two months
Rossk [-\]: (it was Sir Robin's Minstrels..)
macgill [3k\]: honsan3，你这么牛逼？
Firzen [2d\]: d13 is bad shape
Tengil [2k\]: haha uberdude
honsan3 [6k\]: ...?
choinon [?\]: agree
Uberdude [3d?\]: yeah i just realised after i typed it rossk =)
miao [5d\]: g13
macgill [3k\]: 6k, one dan?
honsan3 [6k\]: 我 现在只能打到5k
honsan3 [6k\]: 一段快了
ghkghj: 形勢 判断
Rossk [-\]: hehe wonder if there are good analogies between 'Holy Graal' and go?
macgill [3k\]: 你的快是大概多少时间啊？
Nicl22 [7k\]: isn't it holy grail
weak888 [1k\]: m9
]
;W[ff]WL[566.885]C[Rossk [-\]: yes
honsan3 [6k\]: 有时状态不好会输弱的
Jenghis [1k\]: both use cups?
honsan3 [6k\]: 一年
miao [5d\]: nice one
TooCute4u [?\]: 我看不懂 ▽_▽
monkeyDgo [10k\]: g14
xevad [3k\]: white so strong..
macgill [3k\]: 晕
miao [5d\]: yes
macgill [3k\]: 这么长
bensenseii [-\]: normal
honsan3 [6k\]: 。。。。。
Uberdude [3d?\]: white fighting hard as has nothing to lose
bensenseii [-\]: it's because his name begins like mine
Firzen [2d\]: f13 hane threatens d11 capture
jjermann [1d\]: btw just a thought
Nicl22 [7k\]: what is white's chance in this game? (if anyone can explain what's going on its more fun to watch)
smogogo [2k\]: o9 alive if white o5?
Beldur [1d?\]: h15 still luring
jjermann [1d\]: what about O8 for w?
jjermann [1d\]: is there some aji?
lighthouse [5d\]: b is ok
Airi [2d\]: ♥‿♥
gootik [1d\]: if i were white i would kill the black left bottom and end the game
oda [8k\]: airi, that's creepy
Uberdude [3d?\]: no you wouldn't =)
honsan3 [6k\]: 人太多掉线了
DangoMango [7k\]: if i were white i would resign
]
;B[ee]BL[581.054]C[sfrex [2k\]: w want 2 cut h15
TooCute4u [?\]: nicl22    b is ahead   but nothing over yet
ghkghj: עברים or עבריים
honsan3 [6k\]: - -||| 难道你学了3天就3k
jjermann [1d\]: what does b play to O8?
llook [?\]: white is trying to use the aji at j16
RunningFox [2d\]: w got to get sth. back
jjermann [1d\]: N8 sry
Uberdude [3d?\]: o8 is illegal
]
;W[fh]WL[537.79]C[ThisHeat [-\]: if i were w  w really would be 3p :)
WQ [10k\]: 哈？
WQ [10k\]: 不会吧？
Medice [-\]: thisheat: wait, what?
TooCute4u [?\]: ♥‿♥
LionelLee [9k\]: jajaja
Rossk [-\]: I think w has lots of good possibilities everywhere
xevad [3k\]: ThisHeat is strong
RunningFox [2d\]: still a game
Email [3k\]: ♥‿♥
jjermann [1d\]: Uberdude: so what about N8?
Rossk [-\]: ♥‿♥ ^^
Airi [2d\]: ♥‿♥
Firzen [2d\]: b seems alive on the left
TooCute4u [?\]: XD
LionelLee [9k\]: im so jealous... how to do that
Nicl22 [7k\]: TooCute4u님 한국 사람이십니다?
Uberdude [3d?\]: m9 is my first answer
xevad [3k\]: ♥_♥
Rossk [-\]: copy/paste
jjermann [1d\]: then O5?
]
;B[ei]BL[510.564]C[TooCute4u [?\]: nicl22 i don't understand korean
Nicl22 [7k\]: ok
Uberdude [3d?\]: then m7
TooCute4u [?\]: :)
miao [5d\]: r8 my answer
jjermann [1d\]: ah ok
WQ [10k\]: what does spamming prefer to?
jjermann [1d\]: but w gained
Nicl22 [7k\]: to the face
Nicl22 [7k\]: I think
macgill [3k\]: 我学了四个月
lighthouse [5d\]: refers to my lunch
Airi [2d\]: \\(ﾟ∀ﾟ)/
Uberdude [3d?\]: yes r8 aji too and then m6 too
Uberdude [3d?\]: sure there is some aji there
macgill [3k\]: 自学的
Okiku: monty pythons
ghkghj: لعبة الغو مع أدواتها كاملة بلوحة   ذات قياس 19 × 19 مربع
honsan3 [6k\]: 哦 你几岁啊
choinon [?\]: e12
TooCute4u [?\]: arab ?
WQ [10k\]: 4 个月？ OMG~!
Uberdude [3d?\]: so maycvb w can get some moves in sente by attacking g8 and then aim over there
macgill [3k\]: 20 ，读大学呢
choinon [?\]: only e12
macgill [3k\]: 你呢？
honsan3 [6k\]: 你看吧 阿拉伯文字都有啊
honsan3 [6k\]: 我18
guerecon [2k\]: 700 observers
pipiru [1d\]: what's the reason for e11?
honsan3 [6k\]: 高中
jjermann [1d\]: to cut w
samabcde [4d\]: 1000 soon
RunningFox [2d\]: w has to be a warrior now!
macgill [3k\]: 你哪里的？
honsan3 [6k\]: 上海
Nicl22 [7k\]: what is observer record on kgs?
]
;W[hk]WL[415.318]C[weak888 [1k\]: f15,h15
Zeldasan [3k\]: 意味不明だ
Novalys [5k\]: it's 7
Warfreak2 [4d\]: about 300 or so
Okiku: 700 Kibbitzers
josette [1d\]: action!
Chrolo [-\]: no
chipper [-\]: more than thousand
jabbawocky [1k\]: 300 haha
TooCute4u [?\]: H9 : W's style  i love it  ♥‿♥
gospiller [8k\]: +1000
]
;B[fj]BL[479.83]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: yeah, once you get 300 kibbitzers, they assemble at a bottleneck in the chat and no more comments can get through
LionelLee [9k\]: who is killing who now
gryn [2d?\]: i would like to say what everyone is thinking:  I wish I could play this well.
choinon [?\]: nice
macgill [3k\]: 你大概也自己学的吧
ghkghj: 바둑은 두 명이 흑과 백의 돌을 판 위에 번갈아 놓으며 집을 차지하는 것을 겨루는 놀이이다
oda [8k\]: 意味不明だとも
honsan3 [6k\]: 对 也有老师
LionelLee [9k\]: macgill nus?
miao [5d\]: ente
macgill [3k\]: 那挺好
honsan3 [6k\]: 看吧 日语和韩文
]
;W[eg]WL[355.403]C[macgill [3k\]: we need japanese
Novalys [5k\]: Just memoriz the game Gryn, then you can play at least one game like pros :)
Okiku: 300 coffee addicted kibbitzers
lighthouse [5d\]: cut
Nicl22 [7k\]: I think he wishes to play in his own games like pros
TooCute4u [?\]: a po polsku ?
Nicl22 [7k\]: : )
TooCute4u [?\]: en francais ?
macgill [3k\]: me , i am in ntu
LionelLee [9k\]: ic
dalamyst [2k\]: w great
kl5:                                                                                                                                     v    
choinon [?\]: i play d13
Nicl22 [7k\]: wah
mayii [6k\]: wow ntu
Nicl22 [7k\]: kl5 how?
]
;B[hj]BL[429.381]C[jjermann [1d\]: is c15 still sente nowsente 
Firzen [2d\]: I think b should have exchanged c15 earlier
honsan3 [6k\]: 3个月啊 我一年都没时间
macgill [3k\]: lionelee, what about u?
dalamyst [2k\]: f15
oda [8k\]: スパムがすぎるぞ、こっら
LionelLee [9k\]: me, nus
honsan3 [6k\]: 3天学会 现实里就7k了
ghkghj: what symbol is  ??
Airi [2d\]: mushroom ·‿·
josette [1d\]: a tree
]
;W[ij]WL[314.459]C[Zeldasan [3k\]: バカヤローが
LionelLee [9k\]: i wonder if the dans can really hear all this comments... can they still play a proper game
chipper [-\]: This is not the place for testing out that stuff, please do not do it here
macgill [3k\]: Lione ,. you local?
]
;B[hl]BL[422.805]
;W[hi]WL[310.94]C[mayii [6k\]: erm they cant
LionelLee [9k\]: yea local
]
;B[il]BL[414.989]C[miao [5d\]: 天学会 现实里就天学会 现实里就天学会 现实里就天学会 现实里就天学会 现实里就天学会 现实里就天学会 现实里就天学会 现实里就
oda [8k\]: それはねーだろ、ゼルダ
Uberdude [3d?\]: b counterattack on k6
honsan3 [6k\]: o5
Nicl22 [7k\]: B gonna live
mayii [6k\]: macgill u sg as well ?
jabbawocky [1k\]: woah
TooCute4u [?\]: B is gonna die   haha   w i love ur style ♥‿♥
aelius [4k\]: can b cut and kill h7 group?
RunningFox [2d\]: over?
balalabi [2k\]: 别用汉语说废话了，谢谢大家了！也不嫌丢人
calme [-\]: yes
uaHUAHUHUA: h5 in trouble?
AphexTwin [1k\]: pros reading is amazing...
LionelLee [9k\]: miao ist Deutsche oder Chinesisch?
honsan3 [6k\]: .........
Nicl22 [7k\]: ok seriously
]
;W[kl]WL[272.738]C[Nicl22 [7k\]: did white
miao [5d\]: ich bin bonna
Nicl22 [7k\]: calculate this entire attack through
]
;B[km]BL[401.612]C[Nicl22 [7k\]: before playing L15?
RunningFox [2d\]: hmmm. 
LionelLee [9k\]: bonna?
]
;W[jm]WL[268.629]C[JeffChang [9d\]: seriously, w is trying his best to make some troubles to b
JeffChang [9d\]: but it still seems tough
miao [5d\]: ja aus deutschland
miao [5d\]: ^^
llook [?\]: miao you live in Bonn?
miao [5d\]: yes
macgill [3k\]: 谁说说汉语丢人了？
llook [?\]: och
chipper [-\]: o5
honsan3 [6k\]: - - 一个字 切
RunningFox [2d\]: final try
]
;B[jl]BL[376.908]
;W[kk]WL[265.864]C[TooCute4u [?\]: W+resign
macgill [3k\]: 我们这是认识人，正常交流
llook [?\]: me too
brainstem: make or break time
LionelLee [9k\]: miao lerne jetzt Chinesisch?.... das gut
Nicl22 [7k\]: did they play like this on purpose?
Zeldasan [3k\]: それは問題じゃねーぞ
smogogo [2k\]: f15 is nothig for white?
honsan3 [6k\]: 哦 我只会日语
]
;B[go]BL[360.315]C[Nicl22 [7k\]: to make it more exciting?
ghkghj: โกะ ถือเป็นความสามารถหนึ่งในสมัยโบราณที่ชาวญี่ปุ่นฝึกหัด
honsan3 [6k\]: 和中文
Nicl22 [7k\]: or do these guys always make big groups L or D
Nicl22 [7k\]: ?
skyvie [2k\]: k6 isnt connected
oda [8k\]: なにがだ
uaHUAHUHUA: e6
miao [5d\]: ich kann kein chinesisch aber vielleicht nächstes jahr
miao [5d\]: ^^
saintshun: why are two pros playing here where no pro would come?
OBM [5d\]: There are room for foreign language on KG
LionelLee [9k\]: oh...
OBM [5d\]: just clone the game and do it over there
Nicl22 [7k\]: OBM but nobody ever talks there
drau [5k\]: e6 ?
LionelLee [9k\]: then how did u type out those words... babelfish?
gospiller [8k\]: b o5 soon?
AphexTwin [1k\]: m7?
Draxt [10k\]: saintshun, u should ask jeffchang
honsan3 [6k\]: 你自己踩自己脚
]
;W[lm]WL[196.696]C[OBM [5d\]: it may take a hundred years, but some  people still won't get it and learn it
Nicl22 [7k\]: white o5?
brainstem: finally, w has something to hope for
ghkghj: oda 日本語ですよね？
Nicl22 [7k\]: oh
liusasori [1k\]: b o5
Nicl22 [7k\]: white has connected
miao [5d\]: d7=*
balalabi [2k\]: 这是英语频道，如果谁都说母语说话，这里的评棋就完蛋了！跟公共场所大呼小叫的东西没什么区别
oda [8k\]: omb there is no language totalitarism in kgs as far as I know
Nicl22 [7k\]: is  black still unsettled to the left?
miao [5d\]: d7?
TheTonttu [3k\]: I saw this, yay :P
Korea4K [2d\]: chinesisch ist fuer europaer sehr schwer .
Timely: stimmt
miao [5d\]: ja
Zeldasan [3k\]: なんだテメラー
Elscouta [4k\]: Korea: agreed :/
honsan3 [6k\]: 原来如此 那你还打中文那么多干吗 
OBM [5d\]: I am not talking about law
about12k [7k\]:  
LionelLee [9k\]: Chinesisch macht spaß
]
;B[ko]BL[293.557]
;W[kn]WL[195.116]C[honsan3 [6k\]: 说日语可以吧 
balalabi [2k\]: 让你这 东西明白而已
miao [5d\]: :D
OBM [5d\]: I am talking about common sense and respect to the others
oda [8k\]: 日本語ですねって。。？
]
;B[jo]BL[286.946]C[Chrolo [-\]: 明白
brainstem: i think w will win in the end
ghkghj: หมากล้อม
gryn [2d?\]: are people actually being language bigots too? it's bad enough we have rank bigots by the barrel.
honsan3 [6k\]: 那你说简单点啊
]
;W[ge]WL[191.625]C[LionelLee [9k\]: aber Deutsch macht auch spaß
jabbawocky [1k\]: m5 rather big?
Chrolo [-\]: ですね ですですねですね です
AutoAtari [4k\]: ce tot vorbesc ăştia limbi străine?
Sheeple [7k\]: tausende schriftzeichen ist einfach nur krank
ghkghj: deutsch ist nicht so super
samabcde [4d\]: ...........
saintshun: OBM only speaks english?? learn other language
oda [8k\]: yes respect other languages OBM
Chrolo [-\]: deutsch einfaxh
Nicl22 [7k\]: 저한테 한국어도 많이 어려워요
AphexTwin [1k\]: we'll never see h15 now :)
Chrolo [-\]: ですですねです
cloudo [6k\]: sehr einfaxh
Novalys [5k\]: k
Airi [2d\]: desu desu desu
Novalys [5k\]: K5 was big
Micke [1d\]: tyst med er barn
ghkghj: Chrolo:  โกะ ถือเป็นความสามารถหนึ่งในสมัยโบราณที่ชาวญี่ปุ่นฝึกหัด
Nicl22 [7k\]: hey
guerecon [2k\]: black dieing everywhere?
JeffChang [9d\]: if b is dead like this
LionelLee [9k\]: nein... Deutsch ist nicht einfach
Nicl22 [7k\]: did black just connect
Nicl22 [7k\]: ?
OBM [5d\]: Insouciance
Elscouta [4k\]: o5 pretty big
Zeldasan [3k\]: 中国語yヤメローぜ
JeffChang [9d\]: we'll need to count then : )
Chrolo [-\]: ですねですねですね
OBM [5d\]: Incouciance, that is the word to describe these people
Timely: b has a big smile on his face
about12k [7k\]: w winning now
droggel [4k\]: ich find deutsch einfach ``
Nicl22 [7k\]: B semeai
JeffChang [9d\]: but I guess b won't die that easy
smogogo [2k\]: ... i understand nothing in this game...
Reimar [?\]: g15 also big - kills b13
saintshun: ??
Nicl22 [7k\]: B win semeai at top
Nicl22 [7k\]: ?
saintshun: k14 alive
OBM [5d\]: Insouciance
honsan3 [6k\]: あなたはあなたあなたはあなた
saintshun: l15 dead
Nicl22 [7k\]: O6 dead
nub [6d\]: poor b
Namii [5d\]: Öööböbb bbböbö böböböböbö böööö böböböb öb öbö böbö. <-- My invented language that has only one vocal and one consonant.
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: E18?
nub [6d\]: whyyyyy
Nicl22 [7k\]: ?
miao [5d\]: nice
macgill [3k\]: balalabi, what were u talking about? necer shout out 
itchitoriu [?\]: O5
Timely: कमखकमखकमखिऽलःिम
Korea4K [2d\]: b stronger
TooCute4u [?\]: namii    it's not funny....
ghkghj: Namii: ÜÜggüügGüü Güggügü ÜGÜGÜGggGÜG
Sheeple [7k\]: Namii: it looks just like finnish
Namii [5d\]: Sorry...
Disruption [12k\]: bööö böböböb!
LionelLee [9k\]: i shall not explain why Deutsch ist nicht einfach... or we will be too off topic
Chrolo [-\]: ですねですbutですね
]
;B[fd]BL[160.311]C[miao [5d\]: Öböböböbööööööööööööböböbö böbö öbööööööööööööööbööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööööö
LionelLee [9k\]: yea chipper
saintshun: huh
nub [6d\]: lol
Timely: aye aye, chipper!
Girishajin [10k\]: Stop trolling
TooCute4u [?\]: STOP SPAMING
donGoku [6k\]: 10001 1100 0011 11110 0000111
ThisHeat [-\]: omg 5dan gets banned now?
Ludmila [5k\]: lol 5d flood
llook [?\]: is this interlingua?
samabcde [4d\]: stop those guy
saintshun: where is hu ben from?
gryn [2d?\]: obm do you mean incontentance?
Chrolo [-\]: ですねですねですね
Draxt [10k\]: h15 don't work for white?
Korea4K [2d\]: last try for w
Namii [5d\]: Öbööböbö, öbbbööböböbö, B8 öböböböböböböb b7 k3 m8 t1 öböböb.
nub [6d\]: poor miao
Zeldasan [3k\]: 11100
urknall [10k\]: ;o)
]
;W[gd]WL[142.866]C[Timely: tricky sequence
Hardy [11k\]: just like spammer is deaf
LionelLee [9k\]: ><
nygo [1k\]: b is dead
HIFK [5k\]: does not matter what writing if not english
oda [8k\]: それしか言えないのか、クロロ
HIFK [5k\]: all them trolling
macgill [3k\]: b in danger
]
;B[gc]BL[139.205]C[saiakira [8k\]: what is that number mean?
]
;W[ec]WL[136.272]C[Chrolo [-\]: ですね です
]
;B[he]BL[133.584]C[Korea4K [2d\]: oo b captuered^^
Timely: lol all the anime kidos with their 'japanese'...
AutoAtari [4k\]: ma stuzi lo vimku'a
uaHUAHUHUA: w is atacking all b groups
uaHUAHUHUA: hehe
dalamyst [2k\]: nice
Endurance [7k?\]: f15
honsan3 [6k\]: クロロ？
Girishajin [10k\]: lol timely
Anthony22 [6k\]: a9 
llook [?\]: g14?
dalamyst [2k\]: res now w 
Nicl22 [7k\]: black o5 not good ide?A
Firzen [2d\]: why didn't white e16 directly?
saintshun: yes, it is really annoyin to see the kidos faking japanese
nub [6d\]: M5
oda [8k\]: Ｃｈｒｏｌｏ
Anthony22 [6k\]: oh
choinon [?\]: f13
Anthony22 [6k\]: g14 
macgill [3k\]: w in danger too
Nicl22 [7k\]: oh I see
llook [?\]: or g13
Zeldasan [3k\]: このシーケンス
Namii [5d\]: but the anime language is so cool!
choinon [?\]: sure f13
TooCute4u [?\]: w's winning ♥‿♥
miksu [7k\]: g13
]
;W[fe]WL[74.986]C[Timely: look mom, i can type japanese characters!!
nygo [1k\]: e16 seems better  than e17
Firzen [2d\]: ah
liusasori [1k\]: a9 ?
choinon [?\]: *_*
Firzen [2d\]: b d14 is sente
]
;B[ed]BL[110.028]C[Nicl22 [7k\]: What is white's change in this game now?
Sheeple [7k\]: huh?
gryn [2d?\]: !?
Execute [2k?\]: ?
saintshun: huuuuuh
liusasori [1k\]: ?
Nicl22 [7k\]: chance
OBM [5d\]: ?
Okiku: d14
MidNReaper [2d\]: lol
Abeto [2k\]: ????
dalamyst [2k\]: uhhhhh
Elscouta [4k\]: this game is a nice demonstration of pro desperuji
Firzen [2d\]: nice
about12k [7k\]: ???
ikami [3d\]: B ok
Execute [2k?\]: b oops?
saintshun: d14 d15 c15 
Firzen [2d\]: c15 is sente
liusasori [1k\]: d14 a9 
wenkang [8k\]: lol is this a pro move??/
gryn [2d?\]: oh he is using c15
Chuky [3d\]: think a while
Execute [2k?\]: oh
knupsi [3d\]: c15 sente 
honsan3 [6k\]: 私は日语悪い
weiqidevil [-\]: how can i write the "‿" sign without copy-pasting?
gryn [2d?\]: just wants to live
Namii [5d\]: Noob pro, let 4 stones get captured!!
]
;W[df]WL[45.794]C[LionelLee [9k\]: 片仮名と平仮名と漢字が使わないでください
Zeldasan [3k\]: 先手ではない
Okiku: i win
Disruption [12k\]: lol
nygo [1k\]: e16?
LionelLee [9k\]: black dead?
lighthouse [5d\]: e16?
oda [8k\]: ホンサン、私はあんたが嫌いだ
macgill [3k\]: no
nub [6d\]: something is dead..
Timely: lol
Disruption [12k\]: even i saw that XD
Firzen [2d\]: e16 is nice :D
Nicl22 [7k\]: but
ML [2d\]: c15
asdewka [14k\]: d15 !!! :D
Nicl22 [7k\]: c15 threaten to live
swifty [1d\]: C15
guerecon [2k\]: haha
helloworld [4k\]: large group not alive yet
nathaniel2 [2k\]: atari
]
;B[ce]BL[69.121]C[Timely: this pro needs some atari lessons
saintshun: c15 a16 
]
;W[ad]WL[39.505]C[Cor [1k\]: nice
liusasori [1k\]: b can a9 and live
]
;B[de]BL[66.68]
;W[dg]WL[38.051]C[Nicl22 [7k\]: oh
TheMoon [6k?\]: hmmm :)
LionelLee [9k\]: here we go~
saintshun: what now?
ikami [3d\]: d18 
Draxt [10k\]: B13 is dead or alive?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: gots to be d18
nazwa [2k\]: 日本語を偽造することは涼しい
nub [6d\]: b short of liberties
honsan3 [6k\]: 日本語を使用するように見つけるのは困難
saintshun: b 100% dead
about12k [7k\]: b13 dead
Warfreak2 [4d\]: though with a14 in sente you have life
SDW86 [6k\]: o5????
lighthouse [5d\]: a14
liusasori [1k\]: o5 p5 
ikami [3d\]: not sure saintshun
dalamyst [2k\]: why was e16 sente ???????
choinon [?\]: sure
ML [2d\]: d18
]
;B[db]BL[30.916]C[nub [6d\]: d18 I guess
]
;W[dc]WL[35.305]
;B[cb]BL[30.088]C[s38a5t13n: ☼♥☼ hyia watcha y'all doin'?  
SDW86 [6k\]: 05 is huge... surely
Timely: b wants a14 insente
Nicl22 [7k\]: watcha yes
liusasori [1k\]: b18 
Abeto [2k\]: b18?
knupsi [3d\]: w lost anway
TooCute4u [?\]: so bloody game     somehow   it's not far from korean games
Endurance [7k?\]: people have been saying 05 for hours
choinon [?\]: rress
Zeldasan [3k\]: 日本語を使って黙っててくれ
knupsi [3d\]: w lose too much
Baium [2k\]: if you can't live kill all to be the one =S
lighthouse [5d\]: o5 r8
JeffChang [9d\]: hehe I guess I'll wait for their comment after this game 
Abeto [2k\]: or first e 18
macgill [3k\]: w seems dead
honsan3 [6k\]:  - -偽 
nygo [1k\]: great fighting
Nicl22 [7k\]: how many points is o5?
liusasori [1k\]: a9 ?
ikami [3d\]: it is semai
]
;W[bb]WL[60]OW[5]C[Spartaaaaa [1k\]: I win
Doko [1k\]: both alive?
Email [3k\]: I said white was gonna win
saintshun: o5 is 10 points
LionelLee [9k\]: seems like white is top left alive
JeffChang [9d\]: one will die sure
s38a5t13n: ◄♦► dont think so‼
noyan1453 [2k\]: a14 
benuch [4k\]: no
JeffChang [9d\]: seems like a ko or something
knupsi [3d\]: game over for w
ikami [3d\]: both alive isnt good for W should kill
s38a5t13n: totaly
Cor [1k\]: e18 
TooCute4u [?\]: M5 
benuch [4k\]: black try A14 sente?
Nicl22 [7k\]: but black had A9 for live too
Nicl22 [7k\]: right?
epid: b19
Firzen [2d\]: will end in twostep ko I think
nub [6d\]: if b dies there, who wins?
LionelLee [9k\]: e18 c17
knupsi [3d\]: w behind even with a kill
ikami [3d\]: a14 
s38a5t13n: totally
saintshun: b 100% dead
Timely: b o5 and be done with it
choinon [?\]: komi
about12k [7k\]: b appears to be 3k level now
knupsi [3d\]: look at board how much w lost
Bonge [-\]: black wins the ko
Akitta [-\]: yop yop
s38a5t13n: totally ♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫
]
;B[ak]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[af]WL[60]OW[5]C[smogogo [2k\]: a11?
flogogo [5d\]: 30
knupsi [3d\]: top dead with out move
LionelLee [9k\]: hoho
LionelLee [9k\]: no ko
smogogo [2k\]: a11 wasn't better?
LionelLee [9k\]: ok ko
TooCute4u [?\]: why not  A14 ?
]
;B[ag]BL[60]OB[5]C[knupsi [3d\]: left top corner points gone
PlumeMoi [1d\]: ko
knupsi [3d\]: and bottom is black
Firzen [2d\]: better ko
kingme2 [4k\]: a11 must
jjermann [1d\]: the top is not dead without a move
woolman [18k?\]: a11
guerecon [2k\]: B dead
PlumeMoi [1d\]: billion step ko
Girishajin [10k\]: oh....
knupsi [3d\]: the w group dead
LionelLee [9k\]: whoa look at SE
PlumeMoi [1d\]: is tha a tournament or..?
AutoAtari [4k\]: a15
JeffChang [9d\]: http://www.experience-go.com/index.htm
LionelLee [9k\]: se says white doesnt need ko to win
oda [8k\]: in SE we trust
TooCute4u [?\]: haha  SE XD
JeffChang [9d\]: This is a promotion game for "Experience Go in China 2009", both Peter and Ben will be our teachers in the summer, together with Jack Jin 2p and Jeff.   If you're interested, please check out our website, and contact Jeff, thanks. ^^
benuch [4k\]: ko or not ko? this is to withe to decided
Disruption [12k\]: SE usually kills everything
knupsi [3d\]: b group surrounding are alive
]
;W[ai]WL[60]OW[5]C[dalamyst [2k\]: 750 obs
]
;B[ae]BL[60]OB[5]C[Firzen [2d\]: I never knew there was a price for useless commenting, but you guys seem to be fighting hard for it
llook [?\]: SE shows us that W is strong :)
Abeto [2k\]: j5?
saintshun: prize
PlumeMoi [1d\]: what is the price?
liusasori [1k\]: b16 
Disruption [12k\]: SE shows us that you don't have to trust SE 
kingme2 [4k\]: b16?
Disruption [12k\]: xDDDD
Orandajinn [11k\]: lol
maxp73 [-\]: check their website
rephoenix [10k\]: f7
OBM [5d\]: Se is a disgrace for KGS
violetta [4k\]: 1000$
knupsi [3d\]: are here no players who look at board??
]
;W[bd]WL[60]OW[5]C[smogogo [2k\]: a11 instead of a14 delete the ko no?
oda [8k\]: SE is the strongest player in kgs
LionelLee [9k\]: wooo
Airi [2d\]: se is good 
Spartaaaaa [1k\]: SE I trust my soul
LionelLee [9k\]: semeai?
pdndar [2k\]: wooww
]
;B[ba]BL[60]OB[5]C[LionelLee [9k\]: no ko?
saintshun: BenLiu
maxp73 [-\]: wow
knupsi [3d\]: left group complete uninteresting because w lost too much before
OBM [5d\]: A8
flogogo [5d\]: b dead
nub [6d\]: dead in gote :p
liusasori [1k\]: a8 
wenkang [8k\]: a8
ThisHeat [-\]: a8
Timely: this china trip looks good
TooCute4u [?\]: w wins this ko easily
LionelLee [9k\]: a8?
InFact [2d\]: a18
about12k [7k\]: A8
knupsi [3d\]: b far in the lead
flogogo [5d\]: a8
PlumeMoi [1d\]: surely not uin gote nub
Email [3k\]: a8
wenkang [8k\]: lol B shuld have went a8
saintshun: a8
saintshun: a8
about12k [7k\]: white wins
saintshun: a8
Email [3k\]: a9
Sheeple [7k\]: a8
jjermann [1d\]: why not O5?
gryn [2d?\]: wenkang a8 is no good fro black.
knupsi [3d\]: white wins white will resign soon
JeffChang [9d\]: w has to go O5 to struggle for victory
gryn [2d?\]: knupsi most sensible thing i've heard.
jabbawocky [1k\]: if b went a8, white woud live with b19 
]
;W[no]WL[60]OW[4]C[JeffChang [9d\]: otherwise it's not enough
JeffChang [9d\]: but in this case
knupsi [3d\]: yes
Timely: nice
dalamyst [2k\]: gosh
JeffChang [9d\]: the ko will be difficult
Email [3k\]: i told you from the beginning: w was going to win
TooCute4u [?\]: knupsi  it doesn't make sense
LionelLee [9k\]: oh?
AutoAtari [4k\]: experience go in China,1 month=arm+leg, 2 months=arm+leg+firstborn
knupsi [3d\]: fight is w only chance
Nicl22 [7k\]: AutoAtari =)
LionelLee [9k\]: this is hard to read
gryn [2d?\]: auto, what the hell does that mean?
WQ [10k\]: how much is €1099
WQ [10k\]: in $
Timely: no, it's 1000 euro for two months (ticket not included)
Nicl22 [7k\]: gryn he means it's expensive
]
;B[oo]BL[60]OB[5]C[violetta [4k\]: 1300
Firzen [2d\]: b couldn't a8 before b19 because otherwise w b19 means unconditional life
gryn [2d?\]: i see
liusasori [1k\]: p4 
jabbawocky [1k\]: m5 :/
TooCute4u [?\]: 50000 NT dollars
gryn [2d?\]: it's not very expensive
Execute [2k?\]: m5 
gryn [2d?\]: but moreso if you are american
WQ [10k\]: €1099 = $1300?
MaxMakinen [5k\]: auto, i wouldn't call it exactly expensive.. accomondation for 2 months isn't cheap 
violetta [4k\]: yes
Edou [9k\]: no
benuch [4k\]: M5
WQ [10k\]: oh thank
]
;W[io]WL[60]OW[4]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: going to china costs about the same as rent in london
Timely: i think it's very cheap
jabbawocky [1k\]: hmm
Sheeple [7k\]: 1099E = 1446$
]
;B[al]BL[60]OB[5]C[Edou [9k\]: 1 euros = 1$42
choinon [?\]: a8 
drau [5k\]: this is not expensive ask my wife about expensive vacation
AutoAtari [4k\]: I wasn't entirely serious
Nicl22 [7k\]: sure it's worth the money but not many have the money
Nicl22 [7k\]: : )
Uberdude [3d?\]: plus you get a free holiday attached
smogogo [2k\]: Jeffchang? Wasn't a11 instead of a14 better?
]
;W[hq]WL[60]OW[4]C[Jonii [1d\]: What's going on?
]
;B[di]BL[60]OB[5]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: and have fun playing go and meeting nice people like jeff =)
Timely: aiaiai
Airi [2d\]: i dont want to spend my holiday studying go
]
;W[bn]WL[60]OW[4]C[knupsi [3d\]: aumann w investiert 60 punkte für den angriff und kaum kriegt er etwas denken alle er gewinnt
Firzen [2d\]: no smogo, as b gets extra liberty that way
Timely: these guys are really into it!~!
JeffChang [9d\]: ^^  thanks Uber : )
jabbawocky [1k\]: i is foncused
bingo [2k\]: i am nice ppl too ^_^
AutoAtari [4k\]: for me I guess it's more a problem of time, can't take 1 month off work
]
;B[gj]BL[60]OB[5]C[Nicl22 [7k\]: yeah
honsan3 [6k\]: 日语里不是有汉字
cloud [1d\]: quit your job
Abeto [2k\]: j12?
mirdolatte [2d\]: I don't get d11
Nicl22 [7k\]: jeffchang will you be having another one of these in a year or so? or maybe sooner?
AutoAtari [4k\]: then how can I pay for it? :p
Sheeple [7k\]: yes, quit and you can go 2 months even.
wenkang [8k\]: b let that one chance of any small hope of winning fly away
smogogo [2k\]: ok thanks firzen, but it seems to me that this extra lib was not enough for black, but i surely missread
liusasori [1k\]: c'est quoi cette fight de dingues ? Oo
gryn [2d?\]: mir, why go for chicken when you can have turkey
LionelLee [9k\]: who is dying?
violetta [4k\]: if w win i go to china
violetta [4k\]: :D
jabbawocky [1k\]: b is winning wenkang
Rotwang [2d?\]: Experiencing Go in China is definitley worthwhile is you liek any of the following: Go, nice people, food, Chinese culture, Karaoke =)
Anthony22 [6k\]: everyone is dying
]
;W[hh]WL[60]OW[4]C[Email [3k\]: j11
Timely: if b win, i go to china
Firzen [2d\]: any extra liberty is a burden to w as the ko is really huge
TooCute4u [?\]: ils sont en train de se massacrer mutuellement
]
;B[jj]BL[60]OB[5]C[Draxt [10k\]: nice rotwang
gryn [2d?\]: timely, i recommend shanghai over beijing
Jonii [1d\]: What is going on here?
ThisHeat [-\]: rotwang you are from europe?
AutoAtari [4k\]: I even live near China
JeffChang [9d\]: thanks Ed ^^
Firzen [2d\]: g5 group can live in gote now I think
Timely: do i have a choice?
]
;W[ji]WL[60]OW[4]C[Rotwang [2d?\]: TH: Yes.
ikami [3d\]: what is h12 ?
Rotwang [2d?\]: (Hi Jeff ^_^)
]
;B[ik]BL[60]OB[5]C[ThisHeat [-\]: need help for my journes kazachstan to east china
Uberdude [3d?\]: g13 peekabo
danigabi [5d\]: wow
Thiras [8k\]: e6 
JeffChang [9d\]: hi ^^
ThisHeat [-\]: maybe someone likes to talk in privat chat later ^
liusasori [1k\]: l11 
danigabi [5d\]: w really made the game insteresting
]
;W[ii]WL[60]OW[4]C[Nicl22 [7k\]: JeffChang will there be another one of these experience go trips in a year or so (or sooner?)
]
;B[ki]BL[60]OB[5]C[bagkiller [10k\]: L11
ThisHeat [-\]: westchina upps
]
;W[kj]WL[60]OW[4]C[Firzen [2d\]: peter is going for total defeat
jjermann [1d\]: first g13?
Firzen [2d\]: calling g13 :)
glint [-\]: gryn, why Shanghai?
hvk [-\]: G13
Airi [2d\]: 2-0 for ben
gryn [2d?\]: glint, better shopping, much less pollution.
wenkang [8k\]: no he after the white group at G15
Firzen [2d\]: b winning
Nicl22 [7k\]: Maybe winter 2009 or summer 2010?
JeffChang [9d\]: Nicl22:  our program is annual event : )
Nicl22 [7k\]: ok
JeffChang [9d\]: every summer in China : )
gryn [2d?\]: glint, but much fewer palaces :)
gryn [2d?\]: many*
jjermann [1d\]: but w has F11
glint [-\]: I have been to both cities several times
hvk [-\]: K9
guhte: j12 
Clare [-\]: b lives after g4
Lenz [3k\]: if cut M12
jabbawocky [1k\]: i sense another trade coming
gryn [2d?\]: your snot turns black in beijing :P
jjermann [1d\]: I vote for G13
RoundTuit [2k\]: ewww
Firzen [2d\]: b will win this easily
jjermann [1d\]: if w f11 then F13
jjermann [1d\]: and then live
glint [-\]: yu gardens in Shanghai are very nice :)
oda [8k\]: almost half of the server is here
Okiku: ko battle starting?
lucian2002 [16k\]: go wiyt
Sheeple [7k\]: g4 seems harder to live than f6
Medice [-\]: hard to count threats
nub [6d\]: G13
]
;B[ab]BL[60]OB[4]C[Timely: is chinese food good? isn't it too spicy?
lucian2002 [16k\]: go wiyt
guhte: j12 f11 
gryn [2d?\]: timely nope
Medice [-\]: quite big trade
gryn [2d?\]: (about the spicy)
Uberdude [3d?\]: if you want spice cvan have spicy
Timely: ok
dalamyst [2k\]: g3
lucian2002 [16k\]: Doh!
Uberdude [3d?\]: i don't like too spicy and i was fine
Nicl22 [7k\]: white F12 st ones not alive so can't kill black F10?
]
;W[cm]WL[60]OW[4]C[Zeldasan [3k\]: poor w
Chuky [3d\]: do chinese really eat dogs sometimes ?
fye [2d?\]: not exactly a trade?
]
;B[eb]BL[60]OB[4]C[Timely: dog is rather expensive i hear
violetta [4k\]: yes , on chrismass
liusasori [1k\]: very big ko
Abeto [2k\]: yeah
ThisHeat [-\]: i have eaten dog in kazachtsan onece by accident^
avis [4k\]: with gravy
ThisHeat [-\]: its ok^
samabcde [4d\]: korean like more
gryn [2d?\]: chuky lots of cultures eat dogs and cats, but in china, no one really wants to eat a dog or a cat.
liusasori [1k\]: a7 f18 a10 c17 a14 
danigabi [5d\]: what is blacks supreme threat?
LionelLee [9k\]: ko seems very very happy for white
danigabi [5d\]: R8 ?
]
;W[am]WL[60]OW[4]C[danigabi [5d\]: T16?
Angelus [2d\]: big ko
violetta [4k\]: dogs, cats ...he say rabbit with long arm
]
;B[ql]BL[60]OB[4]C[smogogo [2k\]: q6 looks big threath for black
Execute [2k?\]: wow.. huge ko
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's korea where you can eat dog
]
;W[rk]WL[60]OW[4]C[Femto [3k\]: a chinese school friend of mine sometimes brought something to eat which looked like dog-food
]
;B[rl]BL[60]OB[4]C[Elscouta [4k\]: b supreme threat will be a12 taking the two internal stones
Warfreak2 [4d\]: dog in china is only available in the korean restaurants, and not many of them, and it's not very popular
Nicl22 [7k\]: why do koreans eat dog
Nicl22 [7k\]: so stupid
Nicl22 [7k\]: ;
Nicl22 [7k\]: :D
Timely: why?
Airi [2d\]: maybe it tastes good?
AutoAtari [4k\]: a frend of mine ate cat in the USA
liusasori [1k\]: but w have m13 threat
Uberdude [3d?\]: why don't we eat dog? so stupid
Mori [1d\]: why do you eat swine?
Timely: we eat other animals, too
samabcde [4d\]: chinese eat more horrible thing
gryn [2d?\]: there is not much of a pet-culture in asia.
Rotwang [2d?\]: Maybe they liek the taste?
ikami [3d\]: because it is good
martgda [6k\]: Jeff is program Experience go in China for weak players to?
Jenghis [1k\]: Maybe people should go to China and see for themselves : )
martgda [6k\]: *too?
RoundTuit [2k\]: just watch the game
Novalys [5k\]: Can't we talk about the game ? instead of clichés : /
TheBeast [?\]: cold or hot dogs ?
cloud [1d\]: can w kill the b center group?
Elscouta [4k\]: yep, nothing is worse than chinese monkey brain :)
violetta [4k\]: eat dog , be pro !
Email [3k\]: in sweden we eat hot dogs
Thiras [8k\]: :D
Abeto [2k\]: q6?
Kindzoku [9k\]: flooderast
Novalys [5k\]: Thanks it
rats [2k?\]: you can get pine nut explodes the duck, amongst other things
JeffChang [9d\]: martgda:  we teachers are very experienced, so we  are able to teach all level players : )
JeffChang [9d\]: don't worry ^^
Firzen [2d\]: b saved that group in sente
knupsi [3d\]: dog eat dog
oda [8k\]: in Japan there is pet-culture, but Japan is just a wannabe western country
Rotwang [2d?\]: And excellent carp.
Timely: sounds good
ThisHeat [-\]: can someone tell me if i can bordecrossing from kazachstan to china and back to kazachstan with only one kaz. visa?
ThisHeat [-\]: sorry it i will stop here
GocchiSama [2k\]: white has ben owned
]
;W[op]WL[60]OW[3]C[guerecon [2k\]:  pl 
Timely: i think i might go, jeff,  have to ask at work first though :)
dalamyst [2k\]: O.O
ikami [3d\]: ?
Timely: with the crises now and stuff..
gryn [2d?\]: take
danigabi [5d\]: holy..
Abeto [2k\]: yeah
]
;B[pn]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[qm]WL[60]OW[3]C[Email [3k\]: white is smart
gryn [2d?\]: q4
noyan1453 [2k\]: of course he is:)
maxp73 [-\]: Q5
GocchiSama [2k\]: black is connected
Firzen [2d\]: q4 is better
maxp73 [-\]: yes
avis [4k\]: q4
hvk [-\]: S10
Timely: chesus cristus, what a game
TooCute4u [?\]: B is..................DAD
bagkiller [10k\]: S10
TooCute4u [?\]: DEAD
gryn [2d?\]: maybe s10 first though
patrickn [12k\]: b is dad
glint [-\]: Timely, China can be a bit of a culture shock for some, but if you are adventurous and flexible, you will have a great time :)
TooCute4u [?\]: XD
Firzen [2d\]: s10 is suicide
rephoenix [10k\]: q4 q 5 n 6 ? 
maxp73 [-\]: Q10?
Timely: i am!
maxp73 [-\]: s*
Koukkaaja [3d\]: dad, dead, what´s the difference
Elscouta [4k\]: South of China is amazing
somosdios [3k\]: yes. s10 first
droggel [4k\]: n6_
choinon [?\]: g4?
Sheeple [7k\]: difference is a
Timely: and if it can be done within 3000 euro, that's quite ok
Abeto [2k\]: i say q4
monboubou [-\]: Mazeltov, black is a dad.
Elscouta [4k\]: spent my last holidays there, and didn't regret one second
dalamyst [2k\]: i think i got less than 10 % of this game
Uberdude [3d?\]: wasn't much of a culture shock for we, beijing (particularly bit we were in) was quite westernizwed
Sheeple [7k\]: or e. jeez.
Okiku: any weiqi in Yunan?
gryn [2d?\]: that's because you went to the touristy stuff
hvk [-\]: K9
TooCute4u [?\]: w's style : ♥‿♥
Jochi [-\]: q4
avis [4k\]: q4
wenkang [8k\]: B overcome the odd
gryn [2d?\]: the culture in china is *very* different
Firzen [2d\]: you must know as you were there gryn, OH wait a sec, you weren't
somosdios [3k\]: God that heart face is annoying
liusasori [1k\]: q5 q4 p6 m5 
]
;B[fb]BL[60]OB[3]C[Jonii [1d\]: What's going on the board?
Ludmila [5k\]: m5
gryn [2d?\]: firzen, oh wait i was :P
LionelLee [9k\]: hmm
Airi [2d\]: go game
Timely: i just checked plane prices -- return to shanghai is only 400e (on discount now)
woolman [18k?\]: jeffchang is there any cut off in rank or are all welcome
Firzen [2d\]: not with us
LionelLee [9k\]: looks like black has so many threats winning this ko is easy
Sheeple [7k\]: "only"
gryn [2d?\]: firzen very well
ThisHeat [-\]: oo this ko is huge
Abeto [2k\]: great figth
Email [3k\]: b want's to ko
Firzen [2d\]: so how'd you know what we did?
Nicl22 [7k\]: black has internal trheat
Timely: i think this promotional game is paying off :)
JeffChang [9d\]: all are welcome, definitely : )
Khouphrane [5d\]: q5
smogogo [2k\]: f11
gryn [2d?\]: firzen, didn't i already concede the point?
Bonge [-\]: black m6 lives, no ?
wenkang [8k\]: a12
danigabi [5d\]: not only internal, as if b wins ko, w is forced to k9
]
;W[po]WL[60]OW[3]C[wenkang [8k\]: then a ko
TooCute4u [?\]: almost 800 viewers
donGoku [6k\]: why not j9?
Shibite: ;D
LionelLee [9k\]: switch hands
violetta [4k\]: cheaters , its recorded game !
somosdios [3k\]: rank is not an issue, money is
Elscouta [4k\]: white turned the ko into 2-step one?
Shibite: monwy?
Shibite: money?
]
;B[cc]BL[60]OB[3]C[gryn [2d?\]: s5 an win game?
LionelLee [9k\]: wooooooo
]
;W[af]WL[60]OW[3]C[LionelLee [9k\]: whoa
Nicl22 [7k\]: KO
ikami [3d\]: here we go
GlebD [3d\]: k9 ??
choinon [?\]: k9
Firzen [2d\]: calling n7
Uberdude [3d?\]: so g13 local
]
;B[gf]BL[60]OB[3]C[LionelLee [9k\]: white is still trying to win the ko
Email [3k\]: woaaaah!!!!!!
Sheeple [7k\]: ah, simple local threats for the win
Uberdude [3d?\]: oh clever
gryn [2d?\]: white wins the ko, i'll eat my hat :P
Girishajin [10k\]: massacre
Timely: no, white will just take the side bye-bye
weiqidevil [-\]: is this a close game?
Firzen [2d\]: b might sacrifice it :)
]
;W[fg]WL[60]OW[3]C[gootik [1d\]: i would ignore and connect :D:D:D
]
;B[ae]BL[60]OB[3]C[Medice [-\]: oh right, e6 can be used for other eye
Nicl22 [7k\]: Didn't F13 give an extra interal theat
Novalys [5k\]: n2 works ?
Novalys [5k\]: As a threat*
benuch [4k\]: K10?
cloud [1d\]: e6?
LionelLee [9k\]: why not just k9?
Sheeple [7k\]: gootik obviously dan strategist :)
Anthony22 [6k\]: p18 
Abeto [2k\]: g3
smogogo [2k\]: f11 threath to kill g6 no?
liusasori [1k\]: m13 
Elscouta [4k\]: Novalys: too small
ikami [3d\]: yes
ikami [3d\]: smogo
dalamyst [2k\]: k9
Novalys [5k\]: doesn't seem small elscouta
josette [1d\]: k9
Jochi [-\]: k19 ?
GocchiSama [2k\]: k9
Timely: k9?
]
;W[lh]WL[60]OW[3]C[violetta [4k\]: g7 ?
]
;B[lg]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[af]WL[60]OW[3]C[Elscouta [4k\]: what does it threaten, Nov?
gryn [2d?\]: B should a12 now
Nicl22 [7k\]: A12 genius move
patrickn [12k\]: lol
]
;B[an]BL[60]OB[3]C[isbhal [10k\]: oOoO
DnFBlitz [1k\]: q4
Novalys [5k\]: Take M3 and L5 and piece of bottom instead of no points
AutoAtari [4k\]: I like A12
MrZNF [12k\]: a12 ftw
Firzen [2d\]: q12 too small as a threat?
]
;W[ao]WL[60]OW[3]C[AutoAtari [4k\]: it's my kind of move
maxp73 [-\]: ftl
Elscouta [4k\]: yeah, that's at most 25pts
]
;B[ae]BL[60]OB[3]C[Chuky [3d\]: wow didn't see a12 nice
Orandajinn [11k\]: a12 threat to caputure a11
Sheeple [7k\]: lol
dalamyst [2k\]: k9
Orandajinn [11k\]: very good
]
;W[ja]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ia]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[af]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[lo]BL[60]OB[3]C[Sheeple [7k\]: a12 would be funny. next in the series on youtube.
Timely: hmm
Nicl22 [7k\]: P6
violetta [4k\]: eee fake
choinon [?\]: ????
violetta [4k\]: ignore
ThisHeat [-\]: ignore?
]
;W[jh]WL[60]OW[3]C[violetta [4k\]: e
cattitude [7k\]: ignore
ThisHeat [-\]: wow
violetta [4k\]: ;d
Girishajin [10k\]: ha
dalamyst [2k\]: uhhhh
maxp73 [-\]: i don't get it
]
;B[ae]BL[60]OB[3]C[Execute [2k?\]: what?
Yippie [1d\]: can't b win by sacrificing j19 and getting to play k9?
Elscouta [4k\]: ???
Firzen [2d\]: n6=big sente life
DnFBlitz [1k\]: well, it threatens to connect O6 out
ikami [3d\]: e6 ?
danigabi [5d\]: w made ko smaller
Lenz [3k\]: G3
noth1ng [2k\]: g5 group alive?
patrickn [12k\]: h19
dalamyst [2k\]: g3
josette [1d\]: g3
Execute [2k?\]: g3 
liusasori [1k\]: h18 
Novalys [5k\]: g7
Email [3k\]: g3
Firzen [2d\]: g3=gote
violetta [4k\]: p18 !
harrimanez [1k\]: K12 was confusing
smogogo [2k\]: e6
Nicl22 [7k\]: I AM NOT UNDERSTAND K12
wenkang [8k\]: s8
Email [3k\]: g3
Disruption [12k\]: what was K12 for?
Endurance [7k?\]: whits trying to make eyes/
about12k [7k\]: p18
knupsi [3d\]: k12 make ko smaller for w
Warfreak2 [4d\]: what importance is k9?
septa [-\]: n17 ?
Tankred [2k\]: f3 is better
guerecon [2k\]: white needed to connect
Uberdude [3d?\]: k12 means b doesn't win the ko in sente
AutoAtari [4k\]: k12 = "I cut you!"
hvk [-\]: L13
Timely: k12 = connect the f13 dragon
Tankred [2k\]: more threats after
Disruption [12k\]: cut what?
Disruption [12k\]: that 2 stones?
macgill [3k\]: b center gying
]
;W[mn]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ac]BL[60]OB[3]C[knupsi [3d\]: if not connected he lose h11 after losing ko
smogogo [2k\]: e6 kill?
maxp73 [-\]: ...
fye [2d?\]: to kill black center?
ikami [3d\]: wtf
Nicl22 [7k\]: ohok
samabcde [4d\]: g3
liusasori [1k\]: g3
]
;W[ip]WL[60]OW[3]C[ML [2d\]: e6
]
;B[gp]BL[60]OB[3]C[benuch [4k\]: K12 / K9 miai to connect
Nicl22 [7k\]: I now get it
Timely: g3
Abeto [2k\]: yeah now g3
]
;W[en]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[er]BL[60]OB[3]C[Firzen [2d\]: e2
maxp73 [-\]: kiiiiiil
violetta [4k\]: :l
Firzen [2d\]: alive
karnold2 [1d\]: that whole ko made no sense
]
;W[hr]WL[60]OW[3]C[maxp73 [-\]: res
]
;B[gs]BL[60]OB[3]C[LionelLee [9k\]: yea
]
;W[es]WL[60]OW[3]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: peter the best
Warfreak2 [4d\]: haha
Anthony22 [6k\]: f3 ?
maxp73 [-\]: wow
liusasori [1k\]: Oo
JeansebL [2d?\]: lolll
Zeldasan [3k\]: that was a good game
ikami [3d\]: omg
maxp73 [-\]: wow
jabbawocky [1k\]: woah
Airi [2d\]: :D
Mikkgo [2k\]: oh
]
;B[dr]BL[60]OB[3]C[Firzen [2d\]: what the heck
Girishajin [10k\]: ?
]
;W[cr]WL[60]OW[3]C[Email [3k\]: WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
]
;B[cq]BL[60]OB[3]C[maxp73 [-\]: tricky move?
avis [4k\]: hehe w tring trick plays
avis [4k\]: not gonna work
Medice [-\]: oh, white managed to trick black somehow
weiqidevil [-\]: is it really trick??
]
;W[cp]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[fs]BL[60]OB[3]C[ikami [3d\]: both had already read this move ?
avis [4k\]: b responded correctly
Firzen [2d\]: ^^
maxp73 [-\]: very doubtful
weiqidevil [-\]: ok it is^^
Clare [-\]: sweet
Email [3k\]: that's not a trick its true tesuji
JeffChang [9d\]: nice ^^
danigabi [5d\]: excellent :)
Nyanjilla [-\]: oooooooo
liusasori [1k\]: f3 
Uberdude [3d?\]: empty triangle for the win
Mikkgo [2k\]: nice moves
Clare [-\]: i seen this tesuji before
isbhal [10k\]: salut maxp73 !
nub [6d\]: haha
Bonge [-\]: gg
Medice [-\]: didn't f3 work?
DangoMango [7k\]: i knew B would win
JeffChang [9d\]: thanks Peter and Ben!!
noth1ng [2k\]: gg
TooCute4u [?\]: a big LOL to this game
PeteLiu [2p\]: thanks
Angreal [6k\]: thanks
Okiku: eat your hat
Jonii [1d\]: ...Wow
macgill [3k\]: greate
Uberdude [3d?\]: great game
Elscouta [4k\]: Thanks a lot
noth1ng [2k\]: thanks
iampuh [1d\]: thanks guys
gryn [2d?\]: my hat survives yet another challege.
Nicl22 [7k\]: thanks
Medice [-\]: oh right, nevermind
Stormer [?\]: c3 came out of nowhere :)
Thiras [8k\]: woah
choinon [?\]: thx
maxp73 [-\]: thanks Peter and Ben!!
Nicl22 [7k\]: great game
noth1ng [2k\]: nice
weiqidevil [-\]: awesome game. thanks to both!!!!
gryn [2d?\]: challenge*
woolman [18k?\]: great game
Airi [2d\]: 1-1
Girishajin [10k\]: thanks
nathaniel2 [2k\]: wow
dalamyst [2k\]: so complicated
Shusai [2d?\]: nice game!!!
TooCute4u [?\]: Thanks
noth1ng [2k\]: cool
Timely: and now, to CHina!
Okiku: eat your hat
pebarefoot [-\]: thx
noth1ng [2k\]: wow
PeteLiu [2p\]: I will review the game 2mins later
Abeto [2k\]: maybe f3 instead of k4
Rotwang [2d?\]: Awesome game, thanks for playing guys!
trajectory [5k\]: thanks
avis [4k\]: *bow*
noth1ng [2k\]: thx
ryuan [9k\]: cool
TooCute4u [?\]: nice game  ♥‿♥ ♥‿♥ ♥‿♥ ♥‿♥ ♥‿♥ ♥‿♥ ♥‿♥
guerecon [2k\]: f3 didnt work?
PeteLiu [2p\]: wait a moment, thx
about12k [7k\]: great game xD
DangoMango [7k\]: who is peteliu
Email [3k\]: excellent game ♥
AutoAtari [4k\]: *punches TooCute4u in the hearts*
untitled [2d?\]: no c1 atari
LionelLee [9k\]: peteliu is black here
Chuky [3d\]: f3 g3 e3 f2 = no work
guerecon [2k\]: f2 d1?
Sheeple [7k\]: then c1
Firzen [2d\]: because bs capture at c1 is atari now  ^^
cloud [1d\]: d1 c1..
guerecon [2k\]: oh
Sheeple [7k\]: 2k so weak...
guerecon [2k\]: yeah
])
(;W[qh]WL[2921.525]C[ennuistic [1d\]: yeah.
maytrang [3k\]: oh
cloud [1d\]: lol
]))
